Re: ANNOUNCE: amavisd-new-2.11.0 released

[Noel Butler]

On 02/05/2016 16:58, Christian Rößner wrote:

Am 02.05.2016 um 04:43 schrieb Noel Butler :

Dear mister smartfuck


Please unsubscribe this user from this mailing list.

Thanks

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youre more than welcome to filter ignore, or are you one of these people 
who cant handle someone calling this mess as it is. either way I dont 
care what you think.


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Re: ANNOUNCE: amavisd-new-2.11.0 released

[Christian Rößner]

> Am 02.05.2016 um 04:43 schrieb Noel Butler :
> 
> Dear mister smartfuck

Please unsubscribe this user from this mailing list.

Thanks

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Re: ANNOUNCE: amavisd-new-2.11.0 released

[Noel Butler]

On 01/05/2016 22:09, Phil Regnauld wrote:



So, you've:

- used amavisd-new for years
	- you've identified the problem (I assume you've sent patches to fix 
the issue)


	And, years later, you are still complaining about the issue, you 
haven't

remedied the problem in your own setup (say, by prefixing the startup
script with a command to touch the missing DB file), and you still
manually have to deal with a box when it's not processing mails ?
But yet you still use the software...

anyway, late last night I installed mailscanner on one of the servers, 
gunna
run that for a while before deciding if we move all of the mail 
servers over

to it.


	Yes, I think it would be a good thing for you to switch to 
mailscanner.


Cheers,
Phil



Dear mister smartfuck
Hrmm, actually nope, cant think of anything worthy of saying to a troll 
like yourself, so scrap that.




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Re: ANNOUNCE: amavisd-new-2.11.0 released

[Phil Regnauld]

Noel Butler (noel.butler) writes:
> 
> clap clap
> its what a few people have been CALLING FOR, for a few years, rather than
> suicide, fill up our logs constantly at high speed rate to point of 100's
> megs and saying oh we cant find it, it could just as well bloody re-create
> it - again, what we've been calling for, for years! I get better responses
> talking to my rottweiler than seem to do around here (and Cc'd to Mark
> directly incase he as previously admits doesn't read the list all the time),
> as do a lot of people.
> 
> amavisd is great code - WHEN it works. Not good to find one of the mail
> boxes quiet in peak times, load balancers dont block or alarms dont go off
> because postfix responds (even to auth, as does pop3/imap) and a look on
> that server finds a queue of 40K+ messages in just a few hours sitting there
> doing S.F.A. so betya you too would be pissed off.

So, you've:

- used amavisd-new for years
- you've identified the problem (I assume you've sent patches to fix 
the issue)

And, years later, you are still complaining about the issue, you haven't
remedied the problem in your own setup (say, by prefixing the startup
script with a command to touch the missing DB file), and you still
manually have to deal with a box when it's not processing mails ?
But yet you still use the software...

> anyway, late last night I installed mailscanner on one of the servers, gunna
> run that for a while before deciding if we move all of the mail servers over
> to it.

Yes, I think it would be a good thing for you to switch to mailscanner.

Cheers,
Phil

RE: ANNOUNCE: amavisd-new-2.11.0 released

[Noel Butler]

On 29/04/2016 20:48, Benedict White wrote:



Benedict may not be a dev but who's to say that he hasn't solved this 
exact issue himself and is holding the secret that you desire?


I've been running Amavis for years, including re installing it several 
times.


I have seen similar errors. They result ultimately from the file not
being there.

Fixes can include just touching the file (touch 
/path/to/file/filename.db)





clap clap
its what a few people have been CALLING FOR, for a few years, rather 
than suicide, fill up our logs constantly at high speed rate to point of 
100's megs and saying oh we cant find it, it could just as well bloody 
re-create it - again, what we've been calling for, for years! I get 
better responses talking to my rottweiler than seem to do around here 
(and Cc'd to Mark directly incase he as previously admits doesn't read 
the list all the time), as do a lot of people.


amavisd is great code - WHEN it works. Not good to find one of the mail 
boxes quiet in peak times, load balancers dont block or alarms dont go 
off because postfix responds (even to auth, as does pop3/imap) and a 
look on that server finds a queue of 40K+ messages in just a few hours 
sitting there doing S.F.A. so betya you too would be pissed off.



anyway, late last night I installed mailscanner on one of the servers, 
gunna run that for a while before deciding if we move all of the mail 
servers over to it. It used to run very well, we used it when we ran 
senmdmail/qmail vpopmail many many moons ago, just found when we 
upgraded to more modern postfix/dovecot/mysql back in hrmm, '08 I think 
it was, it was simpler to use amavisd given its pretty much designed to 
work with postfix.


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Re: ANNOUNCE: amavisd-new-2.11.0 released

[Thomas Spuhler]

On Friday, April 29, 2016 11:00:01 AM Benedict White wrote:
> -Original Message-
> From: amavis-users
> [mailto:amavis-users-bounces+benedict.white=cse-ltd.co...@amavis.org] On
> Behalf Of Noel Butler Sent: 29 April 2016 10:49
> To: Mark Martinec
> Cc: amavis-users@amavis.org
> Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: amavisd-new-2.11.0 released
> 
> On 27/04/2016 05:46, Mark Martinec wrote:
> > A release 2.11.0 of amavisd-new now is available at:
> > https://www.ijs.si/software/amavisd/amavisd-...
> > 
> >Release notes are at: [...]
> 
> (!!)TROUBLE in child_init_hook: BDB can't connect db env. at
> /var/amavis/db: No such file or directory, No such file or directory. at
> (eva [12186]: (!)_DIE: Suicide in child_init_hook: BDB can't connect db
> env. at /var/amavis/db: No such file or directory, No such file or
> directory. at
> [12188]: (!!)TROUBLE in child_init_hook: BDB can't connect db env. at
> /var/amavis/db: No such file or directory, No such file or directory. a

We at mageia have it at /var/run/amavis/db/
5 files
> 
> 
> ohh well... I guess this bullshit wasnt fixed in this release either
> 
> 
> perhaps time to re-look at alternatives like mailscanner
> 
> 
> Probably a good idea. After all abusing people who do stuff for free isn't
> going to win you friends and influence people.
> 
> I have not seen your previous posts on the subject but wonder if the user
> Amavis runs under can actually see that directory and what's in it. If so,
> is there a DB file?
> 
> Are you actually using the DB? If not just turn it off.
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Benedict White

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RE: ANNOUNCE: amavisd-new-2.11.0 released

[Quanah Gibson-Mount]

--On Friday, April 29, 2016 12:48 PM +0100 Benedict White 
 wrote:



-Original Message-


Really, all of this just once again illustrates why there needs to be a 
public repository for Amavis.


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RE: ANNOUNCE: amavisd-new-2.11.0 released

[Noel Butler]

On 29/04/2016 20:00, Benedict White wrote:



A release 2.11.0 of amavisd-new now is available at:
https://www.ijs.si/software/amavisd/amavisd-...
   Release notes are at: [...]


(!!)TROUBLE in child_init_hook: BDB can't connect db env. at
/var/amavis/db: No such file or directory, No such file or directory. 
at (eva

[12186]: (!)_DIE: Suicide in child_init_hook: BDB can't connect db env.
at /var/amavis/db: No such file or directory, No such file or 
directory.

at
[12188]: (!!)TROUBLE in child_init_hook: BDB can't connect db env. at
/var/amavis/db: No such file or directory, No such file or directory. a


ohh well... I guess this bullshit wasnt fixed in this release either


perhaps time to re-look at alternatives like mailscanner


Probably a good idea. After all abusing people who do stuff for free
isn't going to win you friends and influence people.

I have not seen your previous posts on the subject but wonder if the
user Amavis runs under can actually see that
directory and what's in it. If so, is there a DB file?

Are you actually using the DB? If not just turn it off.



I'm not going into detail since you're not a dev, as this has been 
covered in detail on the list in the past as Mark knows, by more than 
just myself, but just FYI to save you looking up archives, its an 
ongoing mess for a few years now




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RE: ANNOUNCE: amavisd-new-2.11.0 released

[Benedict White]

-Original Message-
From: amavis-users 
[mailto:amavis-users-bounces+benedict.white=cse-ltd.co...@amavis.org] On Behalf 
Of Noel Butler
Sent: 29 April 2016 10:49
To: Mark Martinec
Cc: amavis-users@amavis.org
Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: amavisd-new-2.11.0 released

On 27/04/2016 05:46, Mark Martinec wrote:

> 
> A release 2.11.0 of amavisd-new now is available at:
> https://www.ijs.si/software/amavisd/amavisd-...
>Release notes are at: [...]

(!!)TROUBLE in child_init_hook: BDB can't connect db env. at
/var/amavis/db: No such file or directory, No such file or directory. at (eva
[12186]: (!)_DIE: Suicide in child_init_hook: BDB can't connect db env. 
at /var/amavis/db: No such file or directory, No such file or directory. 
at
[12188]: (!!)TROUBLE in child_init_hook: BDB can't connect db env. at
/var/amavis/db: No such file or directory, No such file or directory. a


ohh well... I guess this bullshit wasnt fixed in this release either


perhaps time to re-look at alternatives like mailscanner


Probably a good idea. After all abusing people who do stuff for free isn't 
going to win you friends and influence people.

I have not seen your previous posts on the subject but wonder if the user 
Amavis runs under can actually see that 
directory and what's in it. If so, is there a DB file?

Are you actually using the DB? If not just turn it off.

Kind Regards, 

Benedict White

Re: ANNOUNCE: amavisd-new-2.11.0 released

[Noel Butler]

On 27/04/2016 05:46, Mark Martinec wrote:



A release 2.11.0 of amavisd-new now is available at:
https://www.ijs.si/software/amavisd/amavisd-...
   Release notes are at: [...]


(!!)TROUBLE in child_init_hook: BDB can't connect db env. at 
/var/amavis/db: No such file or directory, No such file or directory. at 
(eva
[12186]: (!)_DIE: Suicide in child_init_hook: BDB can't connect db env. 
at /var/amavis/db: No such file or directory, No such file or directory. 
at
[12188]: (!!)TROUBLE in child_init_hook: BDB can't connect db env. at 
/var/amavis/db: No such file or directory, No such file or directory. a



ohh well... I guess this bullshit wasnt fixed in this release either


perhaps time to re-look at alternatives like mailscanner

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