[amirc] Anyone mind helping me?
Hi, Folks, I am really stuck. On I-Amiga the MUI mcc classes were being discussed, and the probelms with programs. The thing is that if I load AMIRC after an indeterminate time the whole machine locks up. I have looked at the un-official MUI site but it is dated and alot of my .mcc are not there. Also reading about some of them, I am not sure if some replace others. Eg: NListTree.mcc Does it REPLACE ListTree.mcc -- as in, do I then delete ListTree.mcc? Then there is the NListTree.mcc and NewListTree.mcc which seem to be the same, but different stages of development. Sorry, but I am confused as I have not been a good boy and kept up with all these things. Unfortunatly for me, there are other things which need more attention. But AMIRC is a nice thing to have working, and the Amiga is a great computer. (My windoze box is giving me grief at the moment too...) So if anyone wouldn't mind giving me a bit of assistance, I would be very happy. Cya! -- Hey, Skoie. That's some outfit. Makes you look homosexual. (McBain) Andrew Bruno [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[amirc] Re: Anyone mind helping me?
Hello Jocke And to Matt, I know this is off topic, but hey, he needed some help :) Hehe :-) Just in case : Nlist(-tree) = http://home.t-online.de/home/sebauer/ Regards -- Robin - http://www.amiganiac.de/
[amirc] Re: Anyone mind helping me?
Hello Jocke On 06-Jul-03, you wrote: No, it doesn't. NListTree is a different class. Programs can use NListTree or ListTree. Ok. So does that mean with NListTree, I *CAN* delete ListTree? Stick with NListTree, NewListTree is really really old. So I delete NewListTree too? I'm not even sure AmIRC uses NListTree, but upgrading to the latest version can't be bad. Just upgrading to latest NListTree might not help, are you running any wierd patches on your machine? I don't know if I am running any wierd patches. One which I use is MCX (I think that is the name) which allows me to push screens to the back/front with key and mouse clicks. There are other things it gives me which I can't remember just now. Sometimes when I am pushing a window to the back or pulling one to the front, the machine locks up. Regards -- I promise I won't bite, the swimming lawyer told the shark. Andrew Bruno [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[amirc] Re: Anyone mind helping me?
On 2003-07-05, Andrew Bruno wrote: Hello Jocke On 06-Jul-03, you wrote: No, it doesn't. NListTree is a different class. Programs can use NListTree or ListTree. Ok. So does that mean with NListTree, I *CAN* delete ListTree? No, ListTree should still be in there :) Stick with NListTree, NewListTree is really really old. So I delete NewListTree too? NewListTree is safe to delete, OTOH. I'm not even sure AmIRC uses NListTree, but upgrading to the latest version can't be bad. Just upgrading to latest NListTree might not help, are you running any wierd patches on your machine? I don't know if I am running any wierd patches. One which I use is MCX (I think that is the name) which allows me to push screens to the back/front with key and mouse clicks. There are other things it gives me which I can't remember just now. Sometimes when I am pushing a window to the back or pulling one to the front, the machine locks up. I'd try without MCX and then if that works, put it back in there. If it doesn't work, the error lies somewhere else ;) Regards, Jocke 'Zerohero' Sjoblom
[amirc] sounds
Ahh, some activity on the list :) I have a question: Isn't AmIRC supposed to use datatypes to play sound? If so, whey can it only play 8SVX samples?? I have tried aiff and wav and I'm sure I have datatypes for them but they wouldn't play, I only get the DisplayBeep() instead :-( -- All greetings from Deniil: - The Amiga Spirit will live forever and ever.. . . . Business: http://www.onyxsoft.nu/ Personal: http://www.algonet.se/~deniil/
[amirc] Re: sounds
Hello Daniel Isn't AmIRC supposed to use datatypes to play sound? If so, whey can it only play 8SVX samples?? I have tried aiff and wav and I'm sure I have datatypes for them but they wouldn't play, I only get the DisplayBeep() instead :-( Use play16 as external player :-) C:PLAY16 output=AHI %n Regards -- Robin - http://www.amiganiac.de/
[amirc] Re: sounds
Daniel Westerberg : Isn't AmIRC supposed to use datatypes to play sound? If so, whey can it only play 8SVX samples?? Sorry, this won't help you, but I thought I'd point out that the GUI is blatantly wrong. You can't select ANY sound without enabling the Beep checkmark, which in itself calls DisplayBeep(). I don't have any sound gear attached here to test any of this, but anyway either they should separated entities, or ticking Beep should *disable* the possibility to select a sound sample, not the other way around.
[amirc] Re: sounds
Daniel Westerberg : Isn't AmIRC supposed to use datatypes to play sound? If so, whey can it only play 8SVX samples?? Sorry, this won't help you, but I thought I'd point out that the GUI is blatantly wrong. You can't select ANY sound without enabling the Beep checkmark, which in itself calls DisplayBeep(). I don't have any sound gear attached here to test any of this, but anyway either they should separated entities, or ticking Beep should *disable* the possibility to select a sound sample, not the other way around. I think it plays the sound if possible, else it uses DisplayBeep(), because that's what happens. If I tick Beep and select a sample AmIRC can't play, it uses DisplayBeep() but if I select an 8SVX sample it plays ok. - Isn't AmIRC supposed to use datatypes to play sound? If so, whey can it only play 8SVX samples?? I have tried aiff and wav and I'm sure I have datatypes for them but they wouldn't play, I only get the DisplayBeep() instead :-( Use play16 as external player :-) C:PLAY16 output=AHI %n Yes, I know, but it's so slow compared to the internal player. And I don't gain anything, except more formats, because Play16 can't be made to play on an AHI channel, only by direct exclusive access. I have also tried SFPlay but it's even slower as it uses sndfile.library but atleast it can play on an AHI channel making it able to mix with f.ex. AmigaAMP on my Prelude. -- All greetings from Deniil: - The Amiga Spirit will live forever and ever.. . . . Business: http://www.onyxsoft.nu/ Personal: http://www.algonet.se/~deniil/
[amirc] Re: sounds
On Sun, 2003-07-06 at 02:59, Daniel Westerberg wrote: Isn't AmIRC supposed to use datatypes to play sound? If so, whey can it only play 8SVX samples?? I have tried aiff and wav and I'm sure I have datatypes for them but they wouldn't play, I only get the DisplayBeep() instead :-( Use play16 as external player :-) C:PLAY16 output=AHI %n Yes, I know, but it's so slow compared to the internal player. And I don't gain anything, except more formats, because Play16 can't be made to play on an AHI channel, only by direct exclusive access. Datatypes is slow, thats their primary problem. Afair Amirc is hardcoded to 8svx and it does that with a internal fast rutine. (I can't say for certain though) -- Ian Kumlien [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Attached file included as plaintext by Ecartis -- -- File: signature.asc -- Desc: This is a digitally signed message part -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA/B3Y37F3Euyc51N8RAnOWAKCx6UnRwIlHT6d+jonb1FBoK7H10ACfQktT uFWSqFvhk8kr//o1gfkWEpo= =DL9y -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[amirc] Re: sounds
Isn't AmIRC supposed to use datatypes to play sound? If so, whey can it only play 8SVX samples?? I have tried aiff and wav and I'm sure I have datatypes for them but they wouldn't play, I only get the DisplayBeep() instead :-( Use play16 as external player :-) C:PLAY16 output=AHI %n Yes, I know, but it's so slow compared to the internal player. And I don't gain anything, except more formats, because Play16 can't be made to play on an AHI channel, only by direct exclusive access. Datatypes is slow, thats their primary problem. Yes, but if handled internally, the soundfiles could be decoded only once as they are now. This is not possible with an external player. BTW: Play16 doesn't use datatypes. Not for formats it recognizes anyway which is 8SVX, AIFF, WAV, VOC and possibly some more. Afair Amirc is hardcoded to 8svx and it does that with a internal fast rutine. (I can't say for certain though) It seems like that, yes. But IIRC the doc says it uses datatypes ..and therefor is able to play any samples... -- All greetings from Deniil: - The Amiga Spirit will live forever and ever.. . . . Business: http://www.onyxsoft.nu/ Personal: http://www.algonet.se/~deniil/
[amirc] Re: sounds
On Sun, 2003-07-06 at 03:33, Daniel Westerberg wrote: Isn't AmIRC supposed to use datatypes to play sound? If so, whey can it only play 8SVX samples?? I have tried aiff and wav and I'm sure I have datatypes for them but they wouldn't play, I only get the DisplayBeep() instead :-( Use play16 as external player :-) C:PLAY16 output=AHI %n Yes, I know, but it's so slow compared to the internal player. And I don't gain anything, except more formats, because Play16 can't be made to play on an AHI channel, only by direct exclusive access. Datatypes is slow, thats their primary problem. Yes, but if handled internally, the soundfiles could be decoded only once as they are now. This is not possible with an external player. BTW: Play16 doesn't use datatypes. Not for formats it recognizes anyway which is 8SVX, AIFF, WAV, VOC and possibly some more. If handled internally is more work than you using a audio program that allows you to save the files in any format =). Afair Amirc is hardcoded to 8svx and it does that with a internal fast rutine. (I can't say for certain though) It seems like that, yes. But IIRC the doc says it uses datatypes ..and therefor is able to play any samples... I think the docs has been outdated for some years in that regard... -- Ian Kumlien [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Attached file included as plaintext by Ecartis -- -- File: signature.asc -- Desc: This is a digitally signed message part -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA/B39M7F3Euyc51N8RAkFWAJ417s5Koqlzji8LxWCpNtF5NBjSUwCcDGU4 Fu8L86oAdwIOpPa47FfOH0c= =wEHd -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[amirc] Re: sounds
On 06 Jul 2003 03:07:03 +0200, Ian Kumlien wrote: Datatypes is slow, thats their primary problem. Nah, they're not slow. They just completely suck. Based on horrible boopsi interfaces and being terribly limited. Datatypes are the perfect example of a good idea implemented the wrong way. Afair Amirc is hardcoded to 8svx and it does that with a internal fast rutine. (I can't say for certain though) It plays using datatypes. Often the path is wrong though. Better check with snoopdos. -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
