[amirc] Re: ReAction
On Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 11:15:10PM -0400, Marion E. Wyatt wrote: If MUI is being developed then why don't we see new versions released? http://www.morphos.de/fileslinks.php3 PPC MUI 3.9 Public Release 2 27-March-01 This is the 3rd archive release of MUI PPC for MorphOS, version 3.9. Please read the docs inside the archive before installing. You can get the archive here: MUI_Release-2.lha (969K). NOTE: Requires 150201 release of MorphOS V0.4, Docs can be found in the R1 archive here (725K). -- David Gerber VaporWare programmer http://www.vapor.com/ finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ AmIRC Mailing List - http://www.vapor.com/amirc/ AmIRC FAQ..: http://faq.vapor.com/amirc/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[amirc] Re: ReAction
- Original Message - From: Oliver Wagner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ORHUN KABAKLI [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 3:41 AM Subject: [amirc] Re: ReAction Hello ORHUN, Although MUI is nice and functional, it is no more developped and main Of course it is still developed -- I do know, the MUI tree is on vapor's cvs server. libraries are buggy. They are? If MUI is being developed then why don't we see new versions released? Marion ___ AmIRC Mailing List - http://www.vapor.com/amirc/ AmIRC FAQ..: http://faq.vapor.com/amirc/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[amirc] Re: ReAction
Dan C. : I did that with all 3 programs I use every day, AmIRC (beta version 3.5.19), IBrowse 2, and YAM 2.3 under AmigaOS 3.9: NO enforcer hits. Dunno how you are doing your tests then... Are you aware that this is a known bug? [pointless stuff snipped] ___ AmIRC Mailing List - http://www.vapor.com/amirc/ AmIRC FAQ..: http://faq.vapor.com/amirc/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[amirc] Re: ReAction
Hello Richard On 27-Sep-01, you wrote: Hello David On 27-Sep-01, David Rey wrote: Matt : That's a tiny bug with the MUI settings app. Considering that what you just said is an EXTREMELY rare circumstance, who really gives a shit? :) Registered users maybe? I'd agree with that - I registered MUI a long time ago and haven't seen anything new in just as long. You didn't pay for MUI to get regular updates, just keep that in mind. To expect a bugfix for something very serious for your money wouldn't be too much to ask: but considering that the circumstances of the MUI settings app bug are EXTREMELY rare, it isn't a serious bug in anyone's eyes. Especially now that you all know about it, and can avoid constantly opening the prefs app, iconifying it, and typing avail flush. Thanks -- Matt ___ AmIRC Mailing List - http://www.vapor.com/amirc/ AmIRC FAQ..: http://faq.vapor.com/amirc/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[amirc] Re: ReAction
Hello David On 27-Sep-01, you wrote: Matt : That's a tiny bug with the MUI settings app. Considering that what you just said is an EXTREMELY rare circumstance, who really gives a shit? :) Registered users maybe? As I said.. rare circumstance, who really gives a shit? Thanks -- Matt ___ AmIRC Mailing List - http://www.vapor.com/amirc/ AmIRC FAQ..: http://faq.vapor.com/amirc/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[amirc] Re: ReAction
Matt said to amirc: You didn't pay for MUI to get regular updates, just keep that in mind. You just might want to check just what the original promises from SASG International were. Their original of promise was that a SASG product was a guarantee of regular minor updates (within a certain number of months) and that major upgrades would follow on an annual or 18 month (can't remember which) basis. They did pretty good at keeping that promise with MUI for a few years, but considering the age of MUI 3.8, they definitely haven't lived up to it for minor or major updates since that release. -- David Oakes| /// Member: | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Eastern Passage NS | \\\/// Team| Canada | \XX/ AMIGA | ICQ #14502477 -- Abstinence: A good thing if practiced in moderation. -*- ASTG 1.9 ___ AmIRC Mailing List - http://www.vapor.com/amirc/ AmIRC FAQ..: http://faq.vapor.com/amirc/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[amirc] Re: ReAction
Hi | Although MUI is nice and functional, it is no more developped and main | libraries are buggy. | Is it possible to make a Reaction version of Mui? Id like to see someone create a screen shot as AmIRC in a Reaction GUI, this would be interested to see what it would look like.. -- : : Every abortion stops a beating heart : : IRC: WullieW on Undernet in ADHD Glasgow . : :... . ..: : : : : : Always Powered by Amiga since 89 : :.: :..: :...: :.: ___ AmIRC Mailing List - http://www.vapor.com/amirc/ AmIRC FAQ..: http://faq.vapor.com/amirc/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[amirc] Re: ReAction
Hello ORHUN, Although MUI is nice and functional, it is no more developped and main Of course it is still developed -- I do know, the MUI tree is on vapor's cvs server. libraries are buggy. They are? Olli -- Oliver Wagner [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.vapor.com/ ___ AmIRC Mailing List - http://www.vapor.com/amirc/ AmIRC FAQ..: http://faq.vapor.com/amirc/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[amirc] Re: ReAction
Hello Oliver On 26-Sep-01, you wrote: Hello ORHUN, Although MUI is nice and functional, it is no more developped and main Of course it is still developed -- I do know, the MUI tree is on vapor's cvs server. Oh but nobody sees it so it can't be really be true. Voyager hasn't had a release for a whole 3 months. That's a delay of a whole quarter of a year. Businesses can go bankrupt in that time. You do know what that means? VOYAGER IS DEAD! WE MUST START TO PORT MOZILLA TO FILL IT'S PLACE! AND THEN ALSO AMIRC DEAD BECAUSE CHATZILLA RULE!! *snigger* libraries are buggy. They are? Oh apparently, Olli, there are many bugs in the libraries and they're *all* showstoppers - reading the changelogs shows at least 5 major evil bugs, like improper remapping of magicwb colours, tiny and rare graphical glitches, accidentally flushing memory.. Oh man, I couldn't live if loading a MUI app gave me back a few megabytes, or overwrote a pixel or two. Thanks -- Matt ___ AmIRC Mailing List - http://www.vapor.com/amirc/ AmIRC FAQ..: http://faq.vapor.com/amirc/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[amirc] Re: ReAction
Hi Oliver, On 26-Sep-01 (09:41:16), you wrote: Although MUI is nice and functional, it is no more developped and main Of course it is still developed -- I do know, the MUI tree is on vapor's cvs server. Is there an active mailing list for MUI? I'd like to keep up to date on what's new. ___ AmIRC Mailing List - http://www.vapor.com/amirc/ AmIRC FAQ..: http://faq.vapor.com/amirc/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[amirc] Re: ReAction
Hello Ollie :) Hope you have reached the point where you are past the sleepless nights with the little one :) I just had mine 8 months ago and her teeth are coming through ! Anyway ! Hello ORHUN, (Snip) Of course it is still developed -- I do know, the MUI tree is on vapor's cvs server. How did the sources get there ?? libraries are buggy. They are? Olli Well occasionally ... thats been true :) are you saying its bug free ? ;P Best wishes D -- Oliver Wagner [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.vapor.com/ _ __ AmIRC Mailing List - http://www.vapor.com/amirc/ AmIRC FAQ..: http://faq.vapor.com/amirc/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]? Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE ___ AmIRC Mailing List - http://www.vapor.com/amirc/ AmIRC FAQ..: http://faq.vapor.com/amirc/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[amirc] Re: ReAction
Hello Richard On 26-Sep-01, you wrote: It would be nice if someone other than the testers could see it, seeing how a new version hasn't been released since, according to the About requester on my copy of MUI a version of 3.8 with a compilation date of 12.02.97 As a plain ordinary user, what makes you think there's anything in the latest version of MUI that you couldn't just as well live without? The reason only testers get to see it is because it's still in development and testing. It has some features that add pointless graphical fluff to the GUI at the moment. Hardly stuff requiring an update, for you, the plain ordinary user. I assume that if you can see the about window, your copy of MUI still runs? And the applications that use it still run, don't they? What makes you think there NEEDS to be a new version if the one you have works fine? I'll quote Stefan Stuntz himself: stuntzi MUI has no bugs (it's so true, it's almost scary) Thanks -- Matt ___ AmIRC Mailing List - http://www.vapor.com/amirc/ AmIRC FAQ..: http://faq.vapor.com/amirc/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[amirc] Re: ReAction
On Wed, 26 Sep 2001, Matt wrote: Hello Richard On 26-Sep-01, you wrote: It would be nice if someone other than the testers could see it, seeing how a new version hasn't been released since, according to the About requester on my copy of MUI a version of 3.8 with a compilation date of 12.02.97 As a plain ordinary user, what makes you think there's anything in the latest version of MUI that you couldn't just as well live without? One, I don't consider myself as a normal MUI user, I have several programs which would not exist without MUI - I also note that I have received error reports from people that are actually using the latest version of MUI which I obviously can't possibly fix due to not having that version (Ok, so testers STOP sending ME bug reports - get MUI fixed, as my program can't possibly be wrong if it works on MUI 3.8) The reason only testers get to see it is because it's still in development and testing. It has some features that add pointless graphical fluff to the GUI at the moment. Hardly stuff requiring an update, for you, the plain ordinary user. Most of this fluff breaks programs that are currently in progress and I'm just waiting for the new version to be released so I get to completely rewrite my program due to something that someone felt was a good idea at the time. I assume that if you can see the about window, your copy of MUI still runs? And the applications that use it still run, don't they? What makes you think there NEEDS to be a new version if the one you have works fine? Works fine?!? Not always. I'll quote Stefan Stuntz himself: stuntzi MUI has no bugs (it's so true, it's almost scary) Yea, right - as a developer, I'm finding new ones all the time - none of which I've documented because it seems to be useless to tell anyone who is supposedly developing it that their are bugs due to the above. Fortunately, I have gotten some feedback about other custom classes that I use, otherwise the program wouldn't work at all under some circumstances (Yes, using documented code and the autodocs to the letter) Richard H. Poser II (The Next Regeneration) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The Whomiga Times: http://www.missingpiece.com/whomiga/index.html Doctor Who Pinball: http://www.missingpiece.com/pinball/drwho/index.html AmigAIM Homepage: http://amigaim.missingpiece.com/index.html -- Official RADW/#DWC Birthday Clearinghouse - Team AMIGA - ICQ/AIM: Whomiga ___ AmIRC Mailing List - http://www.vapor.com/amirc/ AmIRC FAQ..: http://faq.vapor.com/amirc/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
[amirc] Re: ReAction
Hello Richard On 26-Sep-01, you wrote: One, I don't consider myself as a normal MUI user, I have several programs which would not exist without MUI snipped pointless rant I don't understand what you're going on about - you say you are getting reports from people with newer versions of MUI than you, that your app is buggy. How would the newer version stop your app from being buggy if it were released? MUI 3.8 is fine. Using documented features works fine. There are a few minor discrepencies but nothing you'd ever use. What you have to realise here is that if you coded it for MUI 3.8 and there is a bug in someone's MUI 4.x installation that makes your app crash, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO FIX IT. It's perfectly justified for you to say then stop running buggy beta versions of MUI that I can't test, the bug doesn't exist under MUI 3.8. Why would you want to support a version of MUI that - as far as I've counted - only 8 people actually have installed outside of MorphOS? Thanks -- Matt ___ AmIRC Mailing List - http://www.vapor.com/amirc/ AmIRC FAQ..: http://faq.vapor.com/amirc/ Listserver Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=HELP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=UNSUBSCRIBE
