[Amsn-devel] hi and privacy list
Hi all :) I am still alive :) How are you? about amsn 0.x is it still in devellopment or you will develop amsn2 only? if amsn 0,x is still on. I want to rewrite the privacy tab Let me know bye bye :) *Square87* -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] hi and privacy list
Hi square, welcome back, glad you're still alive! We're continuing to develop 0.x in parallel with amsn 2.x development. You want to rewrite privacy tab? ok, but WHY? you give no reason at all and you don't say what you plan to change... If you want us to allow you to change the privacy tab, first tell us what is the problem with it? why you want to rewrite it? isn't it better to just fix/change what's bothering you? What is the plan for the future of the privacy tab? can you do a mockup of what it would be like? etc... Also, I don't believe that changing the privacy tab is a good idea without changing the whole preferences window. We've had for a long time plans to rewrite the whole preferences window into something more usable, and I think that if anything needs changing in the prefs window, that would be the first thing to do instead of changing one tab only... If you want to help, I would instead suggest you go look at the TODO page in the wiki, there are a lot of things there than need fixing and that are more important and more urgent than the privacy tab. I'd like you to discuss any change/fix you want to do first, because the items in the TODO could be confusing or obsolete. anyways, I'm glad you're back, let's just hope you'll stick around this time... any reason why you disappeared? KaKaRoTo On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 4:05 AM, square87 squar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all :) I am still alive :) How are you? about amsn 0.x is it still in devellopment or you will develop amsn2 only? if amsn 0,x is still on. I want to rewrite the privacy tab Let me know bye bye :) *Square87* -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] hi and privacy list
Hi Kakaroto glad to see you :) So i choose privacy tab because: 1) i have to remember some things about the code :P 2) I believe privacy tab it's not simple to understood, we have, from years, various posts on the forum that ask: what means red... etc...? 3) We can simply put 1 list instead of have 4 lists, with some buttons Add it in CL Remove... etc... . So when an user select an email some buttons can be enabled and other disabled. We can have a search bar, with special options (See only blocked people, etc...). We can also have: Column: Email | Column: Blocked | Column Removed etc... Buttons: $email |No| Yes | Block/Unblock selected user | $email1|No| No | Add to CL ... | I didn't explain in the previous email what I'd like to do about, because i wanted to know if amsn 0.x was still in development :P. I know we have more useful things with more priority, but as I said in 1) ... About my disappearing: i am going to university and i am working (part-time). But i want to have my spare time to do things that i love as amsn :-). So i decided to pass from 6hours to 4hours in the job, so i have more time to study and the weekend to follow my hobbies, friends and my lover. Those three things are my resting time :) Tell me what do you think about privacy tab, i know Preferences Window should be changed (from years [?]) but i think we can start at least from a tab... Bye [?] or [?] *Square87* 2009/11/22 Youness Alaoui kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net Hi square, welcome back, glad you're still alive! We're continuing to develop 0.x in parallel with amsn 2.x development. You want to rewrite privacy tab? ok, but WHY? you give no reason at all and you don't say what you plan to change... If you want us to allow you to change the privacy tab, first tell us what is the problem with it? why you want to rewrite it? isn't it better to just fix/change what's bothering you? What is the plan for the future of the privacy tab? can you do a mockup of what it would be like? etc... Also, I don't believe that changing the privacy tab is a good idea without changing the whole preferences window. We've had for a long time plans to rewrite the whole preferences window into something more usable, and I think that if anything needs changing in the prefs window, that would be the first thing to do instead of changing one tab only... If you want to help, I would instead suggest you go look at the TODO page in the wiki, there are a lot of things there than need fixing and that are more important and more urgent than the privacy tab. I'd like you to discuss any change/fix you want to do first, because the items in the TODO could be confusing or obsolete. anyways, I'm glad you're back, let's just hope you'll stick around this time... any reason why you disappeared? KaKaRoTo On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 4:05 AM, square87 squar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all :) I am still alive :) How are you? about amsn 0.x is it still in devellopment or you will develop amsn2 only? if amsn 0,x is still on. I want to rewrite the privacy tab Let me know bye bye :) *Square87* -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel 983.png328.png981.png-- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] hi and privacy list
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 6:28 AM, square87 squar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Kakaroto glad to see you :) hey So i choose privacy tab because: 1) i have to remember some things about the code :P then that's definitely not the right place to start, it's complicated code, start with something smaller... 2) I believe privacy tab it's not simple to understood, we have, from years, various posts on the forum that ask: what means red... etc...? it's the simplest you can get.. and it's rare people asking about what it means, also because it's rare people who actually use it... and the response is in the FAQ, we could improve it by adding a 'legend' on the side, not by rewriting it. 3) We can simply put 1 list instead of have 4 lists, with some buttons Add it in CL Remove... etc... . So when an user select an email some buttons can be enabled and other disabled. We can have a search bar, with special options (See only blocked people, etc...). We can also have: Column: Email | Column: Blocked | Column Removed etc... Buttons: $email |No| Yes | Block/Unblock selected user | $email1|No| No | Add to CL ... | I don't really understand this, but it doesn't look simpler to me.. also, I don't like the idea of buttons.. what people want is the ability to select multiple contacts from those lists.. with buttons that get enabled/disabled, you won't be able to do that. I didn't explain in the previous email what I'd like to do about, because i wanted to know if amsn 0.x was still in development :P. no prob. I know we have more useful things with more priority, but as I said in 1) ... yeah, but like I told you, it's better to start with smaller things, I'm sure you'll find nice small things in the TODO that you can work on, it will be better and easier to start with something small, than a huge 'project' like this, a rewrite is really not the best thing to do in my opinion. About my disappearing: i am going to university and i am working (part-time). But i want to have my spare time to do things that i love as amsn :-). So i decided to pass from 6hours to 4hours in the job, so i have more time to study and the weekend to follow my hobbies, friends and my lover. Those three things are my resting time :) ok cool! I know how life can be time consuming! I hope you're doing fine. Tell me what do you think about privacy tab, i know Preferences Window should be changed (from years [?]) but i think we can start at least from a tab... well, like I said, I don't like the idea, and I really don't think it's necessary.. it's something that users see/use very rarely and it's already quite good as it is (WLM also shows both allow and block and reverse lists separately in their privacy tab). Also, I think it would be best to start with something smaller.. about the we can start at least from a tab, I'd say no, because the preferences window redesign isn't about making it different, it's about completely changing it.. look at the start of preferences.tcl, Alvaro (I think) started that a long time ago, you don't get to write 'checkbutton $w.opt1 -variable ..; label $w.opt1lab -text ..' you do '$prefs append [CheckboxFrame -text ... -variable ..] or something.. it should be a new API, and a complete redesign.. have vertical pseudo tabs on the left, etc.. maybe even move to tcl/tk 8.5 and use ttk instead of tk. and definitely use object oriented programming (snit or tcl/tk 8.6 oo::class stuff) and all that is not possible to do with the current preferences dialog.. so even if you start with a tab, that tab would have to be completely rewritten. Anyways, that's just my personal opinion, maybe others disagree! Good luck! KaKaRoTo Bye [?] or [?] *Square87* 2009/11/22 Youness Alaoui kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net Hi square, welcome back, glad you're still alive! We're continuing to develop 0.x in parallel with amsn 2.x development. You want to rewrite privacy tab? ok, but WHY? you give no reason at all and you don't say what you plan to change... If you want us to allow you to change the privacy tab, first tell us what is the problem with it? why you want to rewrite it? isn't it better to just fix/change what's bothering you? What is the plan for the future of the privacy tab? can you do a mockup of what it would be like? etc... Also, I don't believe that changing the privacy tab is a good idea without changing the whole preferences window. We've had for a long time plans to rewrite the whole preferences window into something more usable, and I think that if anything needs changing in the prefs window, that would be the first thing to do instead of changing one tab only... If you want to help, I would instead suggest you go look at the TODO page in the wiki, there are a lot of things there than need fixing and that are more
