[android-developers] Re: AdSense Android - A Disappointed Developer's Rant
Hi, This story has a happy ending... somewhat :-) So, my Google AdSense account was reactivated. Although, my previous earnings were eliminated as invalid clicks. I received an email explaining the situation. Apparantly, AdSense for Content and Android Apps are not supposed to mix. How was I supposed to know that before, I don't know. I was advised to try out for the AdSense for Mobile Apps Beta, but I don't have 100,000 pageviews a day. Heh, not yet anyway. The good part of the story is the strength of this community. I'm not too concerned about the money lost, rather, I'm more concerned about the future of Android. Should I continue to create apps or will I get burned by Google again? I'm thinking no. The Android team seems very cool and the developers here seemed rather friendly. So hey, I'm sharing my experience in this matter... don't mix AFC with Android / iPhone apps. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: AdSense Android - A Disappointed Developer's Rant
Hi, I went through exactly the same process after doing exactly what you described you did: displaying ads on a web-page that gets opened in a webview out of an Android application. See the post - is android and adsense a valid business model for the full story. My adsense account remains disabled to this date. After this adsense experience, I switched to display ads from admob. I found admob to be working very well. The team at admob is very approachable and helpful. I can only highly recommend working with them. Best regards, Tobias On 14 Aug., 23:40, Photics m...@photics.com wrote: Hi Mark, This happened in March / April of 2009. I'm not sure if the mobile ads were ready yet. I'm thinking that I wouldn't be able to use them now. Should I apply for the beta if myAdSenseaccount has been closed? (I'm thinking that the answer is no.) I'm not sure mobile apps would work for my php/mysql based MMORPG, but it certainly would be awesome for some of my other project ideas. (See how this is frustrating?) I used the JavaScriptAdSensecode on my web pages and I used the Webview to display those pages on Android devices. At least, I'm happy with the response from the Android team! :-) I was contacted by someone from Google, who requested additional information. I replied and I am waiting for a response. Maybe this story will have a good ending. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: AdSense Android - A Disappointed Developer's Rant
I think Adsense is for webpage, is not for Android App. So, I am not planning to put Andsense code in my apps. On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 4:08 AM, tobias429 ecker...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, I went through exactly the same process after doing exactly what you described you did: displaying ads on a web-page that gets opened in a webview out of an Android application. See the post - is android and adsense a valid business model for the full story. My adsense account remains disabled to this date. After this adsense experience, I switched to display ads from admob. I found admob to be working very well. The team at admob is very approachable and helpful. I can only highly recommend working with them. Best regards, Tobias On 14 Aug., 23:40, Photics m...@photics.com wrote: Hi Mark, This happened in March / April of 2009. I'm not sure if the mobile ads were ready yet. I'm thinking that I wouldn't be able to use them now. Should I apply for the beta if myAdSenseaccount has been closed? (I'm thinking that the answer is no.) I'm not sure mobile apps would work for my php/mysql based MMORPG, but it certainly would be awesome for some of my other project ideas. (See how this is frustrating?) I used the JavaScriptAdSensecode on my web pages and I used the Webview to display those pages on Android devices. At least, I'm happy with the response from the Android team! :-) I was contacted by someone from Google, who requested additional information. I replied and I am waiting for a response. Maybe this story will have a good ending. -- Regards, Michael Leung http://www.itblogs.info http://www.michaelleung.info --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: AdSense Android - A Disappointed Developer's Rant
I've been considering AdMob for mobile advertisements. I'm waiting to hear back from Google. I figure that I can wait a few more days. If my AdSense account is reactivated, I then plan to sign up for the AdSense Mobile Beta. It seems better to use that than regular AdSense, but I don't think it was available when I first launched my app. I'd sign-up for the beta now, but I'm concerned that my deactivated account would be an issue. I'm waiting for a response from Google. On Aug 25, 2:08 pm, tobias429 ecker...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, After this adsense experience, I switched to display ads from admob. I found admob to be working very well. The team at admob is very approachable and helpful. I can only highly recommend working with them. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: AdSense Android - A Disappointed Developer's Rant
Um... history and basic research says No. Adsense has a habit of dropping users rather than paying them, and the appeals process is a joke. Also, off-topic -- try #android-discuss or (better) an adsense support forum... On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 8:00 AM, Photics m...@photics.com wrote: I made an app called Guild Wars: Conquest. I was very careful about the rules and regulations about AdSense and Android. I released my app and I started making a lot of money. My web traffic went way up, like 218,000+ visits in one month. When it was time to get paid, AdSense shut down my account. I don't feel that they properly explained why and they didn't want to pay me. I appealed, and I was willing to work with Google to make things better, but I was denied and told not to email AdSense again. This is wrong and it makes me an unhappy Android developer. My apps, Photics: Revisions and Photics: Conquest are highly rated. I thought that Google wanted to encourage talented developers. Instead, I'm left feeling disappointed. Is Google going to make this right? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: AdSense Android - A Disappointed Developer's Rant
I don't know... only Google knows.. What (little) did google tell you about the reasons for shutting down your account? Google must have felt that you abused/games the AdSense system, rightly or wrongly.. Either way, I can imagine that this all does not make you happy. On Aug 14, 8:00 am, Photics m...@photics.com wrote: I made an app called Guild Wars: Conquest. I was very careful about the rules and regulations about AdSense and Android. I released my app and I started making a lot of money. My web traffic went way up, like 218,000+ visits in one month. When it was time to get paid, AdSense shut down my account. I don't feel that they properly explained why and they didn't want to pay me. I appealed, and I was willing to work with Google to make things better, but I was denied and told not to email AdSense again. This is wrong and it makes me an unhappy Android developer. My apps, Photics: Revisions and Photics: Conquest are highly rated. I thought that Google wanted to encourage talented developers. Instead, I'm left feeling disappointed. Is Google going to make this right? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: AdSense Android - A Disappointed Developer's Rant
@Mike: I have forwarded your email to some people to see if we can help you. However you should really contact the AdSense support teams, not the Android team. @Disconnect: Please do not use anecdotal evidence as a generalized truth. On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 8:22 AM, Disconnectdc.disconn...@gmail.com wrote: Um... history and basic research says No. Adsense has a habit of dropping users rather than paying them, and the appeals process is a joke. Also, off-topic -- try #android-discuss or (better) an adsense support forum... On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 8:00 AM, Photics m...@photics.com wrote: I made an app called Guild Wars: Conquest. I was very careful about the rules and regulations about AdSense and Android. I released my app and I started making a lot of money. My web traffic went way up, like 218,000+ visits in one month. When it was time to get paid, AdSense shut down my account. I don't feel that they properly explained why and they didn't want to pay me. I appealed, and I was willing to work with Google to make things better, but I was denied and told not to email AdSense again. This is wrong and it makes me an unhappy Android developer. My apps, Photics: Revisions and Photics: Conquest are highly rated. I thought that Google wanted to encourage talented developers. Instead, I'm left feeling disappointed. Is Google going to make this right? -- Romain Guy Android framework engineer romain...@android.com Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: AdSense Android - A Disappointed Developer's Rant
http://adsenseaccountdisabled.org/ might help too. (And Romain, there are tons of examples out there of legitimate sites that get banned without any specified reason, automated appeal rejections, and lack of payment. Frequently the first month they hit a single-month payment. http://eyeonsoaps.net/wp/?p=1804 has a good standard example. Unless you want to publish numbers or percentages on number of adsense accounts closed vs successful appeals - with spotchecks on legit vs fraudulent sites, etc - anecdotal evidence is all that is available to anyone outside google.) On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Romain Guy romain...@google.com wrote: @Mike: I have forwarded your email to some people to see if we can help you. However you should really contact the AdSense support teams, not the Android team. @Disconnect: Please do not use anecdotal evidence as a generalized truth. On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 8:22 AM, Disconnectdc.disconn...@gmail.com wrote: Um... history and basic research says No. Adsense has a habit of dropping users rather than paying them, and the appeals process is a joke. Also, off-topic -- try #android-discuss or (better) an adsense support forum... On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 8:00 AM, Photics m...@photics.com wrote: I made an app called Guild Wars: Conquest. I was very careful about the rules and regulations about AdSense and Android. I released my app and I started making a lot of money. My web traffic went way up, like 218,000+ visits in one month. When it was time to get paid, AdSense shut down my account. I don't feel that they properly explained why and they didn't want to pay me. I appealed, and I was willing to work with Google to make things better, but I was denied and told not to email AdSense again. This is wrong and it makes me an unhappy Android developer. My apps, Photics: Revisions and Photics: Conquest are highly rated. I thought that Google wanted to encourage talented developers. Instead, I'm left feeling disappointed. Is Google going to make this right? -- Romain Guy Android framework engineer romain...@android.com Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: AdSense Android - A Disappointed Developer's Rant
Hello Romain, Your response is encouraging. I'm working on a new app and I'm trying to fight the discouraging feeling. Android is lots of fun to work with, but I'm still annoyed at how the AdSense issue was handled. Would I get burned again by Google if I continued work on Android? Seeing the responses here made me feel a little better. I'm still grumpy with AdSense, but that shouldn't stop the Android fun! If AdSense and Android worked better together, it could help developers make money. That would encourage more developers and likely lead to better content on the Android Market. To keep things more on-topic, here's what I would try differently if I was to use AdSense in my app again. Make sure that the Adsense spiders can grab your content. I was using htaccess to block all but android/ iphone traffic. I wanted a more safe and secure playground for my game. However, that was bad for AdSense. Open up the IPs for the AdSense spiders. Also, if you have passworded content, you can create a login for Google... allowing the spiders to log in. That may not work for all games, but my games were using webview and customized web pages. Well... that's just my idea. I didn't get to try it. If my account wasn't shut down, that's what I would have done to make AdSense and my Android game work better. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: AdSense Android - A Disappointed Developer's Rant
Photics wrote: To keep things more on-topic, here's what I would try differently if I was to use AdSense in my app again. Make sure that the Adsense spiders can grab your content. I was using htaccess to block all but android/ iphone traffic. I wanted a more safe and secure playground for my game. However, that was bad for AdSense. Open up the IPs for the AdSense spiders. Also, if you have passworded content, you can create a login for Google... allowing the spiders to log in. That may not work for all games, but my games were using webview and customized web pages. Were you using: http://www.google.com/ads/mobileapps/ -- Mark Murphy (a Commons Guy) http://commonsware.com | http://twitter.com/commonsguy _Android Programming Tutorials_ Version 1.0 In Print! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: AdSense Android - A Disappointed Developer's Rant
Hi Mark, This happened in March / April of 2009. I'm not sure if the mobile ads were ready yet. I'm thinking that I wouldn't be able to use them now. Should I apply for the beta if my AdSense account has been closed? (I'm thinking that the answer is no.) I'm not sure mobile apps would work for my php/mysql based MMORPG, but it certainly would be awesome for some of my other project ideas. (See how this is frustrating?) I used the JavaScript AdSense code on my web pages and I used the Webview to display those pages on Android devices. At least, I'm happy with the response from the Android team! :-) I was contacted by someone from Google, who requested additional information. I replied and I am waiting for a response. Maybe this story will have a good ending. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
