[android-developers] Re: How to install the .apk file into blackberry
You did not read closely enough. I never -said- Android was a JME platform. Rather, I said that BlackBerry was a JME platform, and that Android used the Java language, NOT the platform. And yes, a JME app written for one phone has a good chance of failing on another JME phone, which is why people say that Sun's promise of write once, anywhere has become (at least for JME) write once, debug everywhere;) On Sep 17, 5:21 am, Prakash Iyer thei...@gmail.com wrote: I would dispute your last statement - Android is not a JME platform. Any Java based app has really no chance of running as is on a JME platform. In fact as any one who has done serious JME programming will tell you, an interesting JME program has a decent probability of not working as intended across JME devices even from the same platform. BTW, a standard JME program has a non-zero probability that it will not work as is on a BlackBerry - basically there are somethings that you need to use the BlackBerry API for that are not JSR. Now a Java app, without modifications wouldn't run on Android and vice versa but that is more due to the runtime support that you will agree is quite different in Android devices than on any platform. To the OP (in a vain attempt to not hijack the thread:)) - the best option is to use a Web view equivalent and then try to write the skeleton app across platforms. Or you could try to write JME compliant code that is pure Java, makes no use of any JSR and reuse that core across JME and Android platforms. The shims (which in this case might be quite thick:)) would be platform specific... On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 3:02 AM, Indicator Veritatis mej1...@yahoo.comwrote: That is absolutely correct. BlackBerry phones are not Android phones. They do not understand APK files, nor is there any practical way to translate them to COD files. Now if the OP had been thinking of running JME files, that could be done. BlackBerry does support JME (MIDP 2.0, CLDC 1.2). But this is yet another example of how Android, though it uses the Java - language-, does not use or support the Java -platform-. On Sep 16, 1:29 pm, SheikhAman shekh.a...@gmail.com wrote: Hahaha.. well, jokes apart, I really think you're on the wrong forum. As far as I know, BlackBerry supports .cod files and it won't understand what an APK file is. secondly, if it the code inside the APK file uses the SDK made for android and BlackBerry won't know anything about it. so it won't work. On Sep 16, 12:47 pm, bharani kumar bharanikumariyer...@gmail.com wrote: Hi , How to install the .apk file into blackberry , -- Regards B.S.Bharanikumarhttp://php-mysql-jquery.blogspot.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: How to install the .apk file into blackberry
Fair enough. On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 4:30 AM, Indicator Veritatis mej1...@yahoo.comwrote: You did not read closely enough. I never -said- Android was a JME platform. Rather, I said that BlackBerry was a JME platform, and that Android used the Java language, NOT the platform. And yes, a JME app written for one phone has a good chance of failing on another JME phone, which is why people say that Sun's promise of write once, anywhere has become (at least for JME) write once, debug everywhere;) On Sep 17, 5:21 am, Prakash Iyer thei...@gmail.com wrote: I would dispute your last statement - Android is not a JME platform. Any Java based app has really no chance of running as is on a JME platform. In fact as any one who has done serious JME programming will tell you, an interesting JME program has a decent probability of not working as intended across JME devices even from the same platform. BTW, a standard JME program has a non-zero probability that it will not work as is on a BlackBerry - basically there are somethings that you need to use the BlackBerry API for that are not JSR. Now a Java app, without modifications wouldn't run on Android and vice versa but that is more due to the runtime support that you will agree is quite different in Android devices than on any platform. To the OP (in a vain attempt to not hijack the thread:)) - the best option is to use a Web view equivalent and then try to write the skeleton app across platforms. Or you could try to write JME compliant code that is pure Java, makes no use of any JSR and reuse that core across JME and Android platforms. The shims (which in this case might be quite thick:)) would be platform specific... On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 3:02 AM, Indicator Veritatis mej1...@yahoo.comwrote: That is absolutely correct. BlackBerry phones are not Android phones. They do not understand APK files, nor is there any practical way to translate them to COD files. Now if the OP had been thinking of running JME files, that could be done. BlackBerry does support JME (MIDP 2.0, CLDC 1.2). But this is yet another example of how Android, though it uses the Java - language-, does not use or support the Java -platform-. On Sep 16, 1:29 pm, SheikhAman shekh.a...@gmail.com wrote: Hahaha.. well, jokes apart, I really think you're on the wrong forum. As far as I know, BlackBerry supports .cod files and it won't understand what an APK file is. secondly, if it the code inside the APK file uses the SDK made for android and BlackBerry won't know anything about it. so it won't work. On Sep 16, 12:47 pm, bharani kumar bharanikumariyer...@gmail.com wrote: Hi , How to install the .apk file into blackberry , -- Regards B.S.Bharanikumarhttp://php-mysql-jquery.blogspot.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com android-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%252bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: How to install the .apk file into blackberry
I am so fed up with JME, I really hope Android does kill it off. Sure, Android has its annoying problems too, but Google has done much better with Android than Sun and the JCP ever did with JME: it was inexcusably idiotic of them to let OEMs and other dissemblers gut the WORA dream with such a farce of specification and implementation. What I am referring to is the nightmare of 'fragmentation' they allowed by allowing OEMs to call their devices compliant, when not even the HTTP connection APIs would work consistently: it is notorious that developers often had to forego using the HTTP APIs completely, relying on java.net.Socket just to get code that would work semi- consistently across different OEMs and even different models from the same OEM. And what a mess they made out of the Address Book API! Only Nokia did a half-decent job. Yet Sun let them get away with it. Yet mention of this in the trade press is sparing. Even http://www.comp.nus.edu.sg/~damithch/df/device-fragmentation.htm#Java_Vs_non-Java_applications, which in other respects is good at describing fragmentation, downplays this aspect quite drastically saying only mild things like, carriers are exacerbating the fragmentation problem by imposing various restrictions to gain economic advantages. On Sep 17, 9:17 am, Frank Weiss fewe...@gmail.com wrote: Daring to go OT, I'm wondering if Android is the JME killer. As mentioned by the previous poster, JME is not all that WORA (write once run anaywhere). Aside from layout and some other issues, Android looks like it is the closest yet. Thoughts? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: How to install the .apk file into blackberry
That is absolutely correct. BlackBerry phones are not Android phones. They do not understand APK files, nor is there any practical way to translate them to COD files. Now if the OP had been thinking of running JME files, that could be done. BlackBerry does support JME (MIDP 2.0, CLDC 1.2). But this is yet another example of how Android, though it uses the Java - language-, does not use or support the Java -platform-. On Sep 16, 1:29 pm, SheikhAman shekh.a...@gmail.com wrote: Hahaha.. well, jokes apart, I really think you're on the wrong forum. As far as I know, BlackBerry supports .cod files and it won't understand what an APK file is. secondly, if it the code inside the APK file uses the SDK made for android and BlackBerry won't know anything about it. so it won't work. On Sep 16, 12:47 pm, bharani kumar bharanikumariyer...@gmail.com wrote: Hi , How to install the .apk file into blackberry , -- Regards B.S.Bharanikumarhttp://php-mysql-jquery.blogspot.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: How to install the .apk file into blackberry
I would dispute your last statement - Android is not a JME platform. Any Java based app has really no chance of running as is on a JME platform. In fact as any one who has done serious JME programming will tell you, an interesting JME program has a decent probability of not working as intended across JME devices even from the same platform. BTW, a standard JME program has a non-zero probability that it will not work as is on a BlackBerry - basically there are somethings that you need to use the BlackBerry API for that are not JSR. Now a Java app, without modifications wouldn't run on Android and vice versa but that is more due to the runtime support that you will agree is quite different in Android devices than on any platform. To the OP (in a vain attempt to not hijack the thread:)) - the best option is to use a Web view equivalent and then try to write the skeleton app across platforms. Or you could try to write JME compliant code that is pure Java, makes no use of any JSR and reuse that core across JME and Android platforms. The shims (which in this case might be quite thick:)) would be platform specific... On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 3:02 AM, Indicator Veritatis mej1...@yahoo.comwrote: That is absolutely correct. BlackBerry phones are not Android phones. They do not understand APK files, nor is there any practical way to translate them to COD files. Now if the OP had been thinking of running JME files, that could be done. BlackBerry does support JME (MIDP 2.0, CLDC 1.2). But this is yet another example of how Android, though it uses the Java - language-, does not use or support the Java -platform-. On Sep 16, 1:29 pm, SheikhAman shekh.a...@gmail.com wrote: Hahaha.. well, jokes apart, I really think you're on the wrong forum. As far as I know, BlackBerry supports .cod files and it won't understand what an APK file is. secondly, if it the code inside the APK file uses the SDK made for android and BlackBerry won't know anything about it. so it won't work. On Sep 16, 12:47 pm, bharani kumar bharanikumariyer...@gmail.com wrote: Hi , How to install the .apk file into blackberry , -- Regards B.S.Bharanikumarhttp://php-mysql-jquery.blogspot.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: How to install the .apk file into blackberry
Daring to go OT, I'm wondering if Android is the JME killer. As mentioned by the previous poster, JME is not all that WORA (write once run anaywhere). Aside from layout and some other issues, Android looks like it is the closest yet. Thoughts? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: How to install the .apk file into blackberry
Open blackberry. Stuff the .apk under the battery. Drop in water. That's it. On Sep 16, 3:47 am, bharani kumar bharanikumariyer...@gmail.com wrote: Hi , How to install the .apk file into blackberry , -- Regards B.S.Bharanikumarhttp://php-mysql-jquery.blogspot.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: How to install the .apk file into blackberry
Hahaha.. well, jokes apart, I really think you're on the wrong forum. As far as I know, BlackBerry supports .cod files and it won't understand what an APK file is. secondly, if it the code inside the APK file uses the SDK made for android and BlackBerry won't know anything about it. so it won't work. On Sep 16, 12:47 pm, bharani kumar bharanikumariyer...@gmail.com wrote: Hi , How to install the .apk file into blackberry , -- Regards B.S.Bharanikumarhttp://php-mysql-jquery.blogspot.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
