[android-developers] Re: Negative comment causing drop in sales

2010-08-31 Thread String
On Aug 30, 7:22 pm, Kostya Vasilyev kmans...@gmail.com wrote:

 You are probably right, but the reason I haven't done it yet is because
 I expect Market comments along the lines of:

 A widget-only application for some stupid reason appears in the
 applications list! One star!! Fix ASAP to get a two-star
 rating!

Probably true. However, another option would be to remove your
instructional Activity from the Launcher after it runs once; this
would hopefully tread the middle ground.

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Re: [android-developers] Re: Negative comment causing drop in sales

2010-08-31 Thread YuviDroid
Or you can set your default activity to be CATEGORY_INFO (instead of
CATEGORY_LAUNCHER). In this way the app does not appear in the apps list,
and if a user presses the Open button in the Market they will get to this
activity.

I've done this with one of my widgets and never received any bad comments
regarding this.


YuviDroid

On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Kostya Vasilyev kmans...@gmail.com wrote:

  30.08.2010 22:07, TreKing пишет:


  2010/8/29 Kostya Vasilyev kmans...@gmail.com

 One of my apps received more than the usual number of can't open
 comments within the last week.

 I guess the word widget in its title isn't understood for some reason...

 Do yourself a favor and add a default Activity that shows a message
 explaining this. It doesn't matter how clearly you explain this in the
 description - some people still don't get the concept of a widget.


 You are probably right, but the reason I haven't done it yet is because I
 expect Market comments along the lines of:

 A widget-only application for some stupid reason appears in the
 applications list! One star!! Fix ASAP to get a two-star
 rating!

 For now I've included instructions on how to add a widget to the home
 screen right in the description (those measly 325 characters that have been
 discussed so much here). Seems to help somewhat.


 On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 4:04 AM, Fabrizio Giudici 
 fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it wrote:

 I suppose in the end this kind of social Market features (starts
 and comments) are just useless.


  Wouldn't call it useless, as much as flawed. There is value to getting
 feedback from users and seeing an overall rating for an app for users to
 determine if it's worth their time. However, with no way to respond to
 individual comments and no expiration on comments (why is a 1-star rating
 from a year ago still considered valid?), the system is certainly not as
 good as it EASILY could be.


 Very much agreed. I'd really like to see a way to publicly respond to
 comments, and have responses show up within the same message stream.

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Re: [android-developers] Re: Negative comment causing drop in sales

2010-08-30 Thread TreKing
On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 3:30 PM, cyxb cyxb.andr...@gmail.com wrote:

 A comment like that will cause an avalanche of similar comments.


Indeed. I always see negative 1-star comments in pairs, usually followed by
decent-minded individuals that insult or counter the negative.

2010/8/29 Kostya Vasilyev kmans...@gmail.com

 One of my apps received more than the usual number of can't open comments
 within the last week.

 I guess the word widget in its title isn't understood for some reason...

Do yourself a favor and add a default Activity that shows a message
explaining this. It doesn't matter how clearly you explain this in the
description - some people still don't get the concept of a widget.

On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 4:04 AM, Fabrizio Giudici 
fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it wrote:

 I suppose in the end this kind of social Market features (starts
 and comments) are just useless.


Wouldn't call it useless, as much as flawed. There is value to getting
feedback from users and seeing an overall rating for an app for users to
determine if it's worth their time. However, with no way to respond to
individual comments and no expiration on comments (why is a 1-star rating
from a year ago still considered valid?), the system is certainly not as
good as it EASILY could be.

On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 5:41 AM, Anil anil.r...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a suggestion. Make short 1 minute video clips of people using your
 app and saying why they like it - post these on youtube.


People barely read app descriptions - the likelihood of them going to your
site and sitting through a 1 minute video is so low it wouldn't be worth the
effort, IMO. Though a promotional video in general is a good idea I think.

On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 2:32 PM, niko20 nikolatesl...@yahoo.com wrote:

 A definitive test is to mark a comment as spam, and then see if
 another user with a device can see the comment or not.


Yup, already tried this with a friend. It only goes away for the person
marking as spam.


 As a test, look at Electrum Drum Machine, and tell me what the last two
 comments (the first two in the list) say. Are any of them spam about free
 websites?


Yup! Though they're not the two latest, the 1st and 5th one down. I assume
the first just re-updated recently.


 I'm not sure why marking as spam would only hide the comment for
 the current device - there would be little point in that type
 of functionality.


Well it also wouldn't make much sense to automatically remove a spam comment
from the Market completely based on one user. Then we'd all mark the 1-star
ratings as spam and live happily ever after.

One would think that with enough votes a comment would go away completely,
but there's nothing to indicate this is the case.

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Re: [android-developers] Re: Negative comment causing drop in sales

2010-08-30 Thread Kostya Vasilyev

 30.08.2010 22:07, TreKing ?:


2010/8/29 Kostya Vasilyev kmans...@gmail.com mailto:kmans...@gmail.com

One of my apps received more than the usual number of can't open
comments within the last week.

I guess the word widget in its title isn't understood for some
reason...

Do yourself a favor and add a default Activity that shows a message 
explaining this. It doesn't matter how clearly you explain this in the 
description - some people still don't get the concept of a widget.


You are probably right, but the reason I haven't done it yet is because 
I expect Market comments along the lines of:


A widget-only application for some stupid reason appears in the 
applications list! One star!! Fix ASAP to get a two-star 
rating!


For now I've included instructions on how to add a widget to the home 
screen right in the description (those measly 325 characters that have 
been discussed so much here). Seems to help somewhat.


On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 4:04 AM, Fabrizio Giudici 
fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it 
mailto:fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it wrote:


I suppose in the end this kind of social Market features (starts
and comments) are just useless.


Wouldn't call it useless, as much as flawed. There is value to 
getting feedback from users and seeing an overall rating for an app 
for users to determine if it's worth their time. However, with no way 
to respond to individual comments and no expiration on comments (why 
is a 1-star rating from a year ago still considered valid?), the 
system is certainly not as good as it EASILY could be.


Very much agreed. I'd really like to see a way to publicly respond to 
comments, and have responses show up within the same message stream.


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Re: [android-developers] Re: Negative comment causing drop in sales

2010-08-30 Thread TreKing
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Kostya Vasilyev kmans...@gmail.com wrote:

 You are probably right, but the reason I haven't done it yet is because I
 expect Market comments along the lines of:

 A widget-only application for some stupid reason appears in the
 applications list! One star!! Fix ASAP to get a two-star
 rating!


LMAO. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. It's sad that we have to design
our apps around the idea that the people using smart phones are idiots.

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Re: [android-developers] Re: Negative comment causing drop in sales

2010-08-29 Thread Kostya Vasilyev
One of my apps received more than the usual number of can't open comments
within the last week.

I guess the word widget in its title isn't understood for some reason

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29.08.2010 0:31 пользователь cyxb cyxb.andr...@gmail.com написал:

My favorite one-star Market comment: Rate one star if you want the
full version to be free!.  Or another 1 star classic: Make the full
version free cuz my mom won't let me buy it

People are like lemmings.  A comment like that will cause an avalanche
of similar comments.  Likewise, a great comment may also trigger other
people to post nice comments.  I suppose it all evens out in the end,
or at least that's what I tell myself.


On Aug 28, 12:12 pm, Michael A. michael.aki...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks for pointing this out

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Re: [android-developers] Re: Negative comment causing drop in sales

2010-08-29 Thread Fabrizio Giudici

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On 8/28/10 22:30 , cyxb wrote:
 My favorite one-star Market comment: Rate one star if you want
 the full version to be free!.  Or another 1 star classic: Make
 the full version free cuz my mom won't let me buy it

 People are like lemmings.  A comment like that will cause an
 avalanche of similar comments.  Likewise, a great comment may also
 trigger other people to post nice comments.  I suppose it all evens
 out in the end, or at least that's what I tell myself.

I suppose in the end this kind of social Market features (starts and
comments) are just useless.

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[android-developers] Re: Negative comment causing drop in sales

2010-08-29 Thread Anil
I have a suggestion. Make short 1 minute video clips of people using
your app and saying why they like it - post these on youtube.
Then have a web page with links to these and also text comments from
Market. Try to find balanced comments - all excessively sweet will
make people mistrust your effort.
To summarize, from the existing crop of comments on Market, find the
most useful balanced comments, create your own video clip comments,
and in your app description persuade people to go there.
Anil

On Aug 26, 8:28 am, abowman abow...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've got an app in the marketplace that has no reported errors in the
 developer console.  The last comment I received basically stated - if
 the developer isn't going to fix the app everyone should get their
 money back and the app should be taken off the marketplace.  Sales
 have noticeable dropped ever since that comment was posted.

 What can I do about this?  The app is functioning as it should, but
 now people see the comment and think that there is something wrong
 with it.

 Is there anyway to respond to this false comment besides editing the
 description of my app?

 Is there anyway to get the comment removed, since there is nothing
 wrong with the app?  If there was something wrong, I would fix it.

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Re: [android-developers] Re: Negative comment causing drop in sales

2010-08-29 Thread Fabrizio Giudici

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On 8/29/10 12:41 , Anil wrote:
 I have a suggestion. Make short 1 minute video clips of people using
 your app and saying why they like it - post these on youtube.
 Then have a web page with links to these and also text comments from
 Market. Try to find balanced comments - all excessively sweet will
 make people mistrust your effort.
 To summarize, from the existing crop of comments on Market, find the
 most useful balanced comments, create your own video clip comments,
 and in your app description persuade people to go there.

Generalizing: don't expect that the Android Market can really help us
to promote our apps. We need to do that by ourselves, with websites,
youtube videos, what else. We need to attract people in other ways so
when they get to the market they have already decided to download our
apps, and won't pay much attention to others' comments.
 

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[android-developers] Re: Negative comment causing drop in sales

2010-08-29 Thread Michael A.
On Aug 29, 11:04 am, Fabrizio Giudici fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it
wrote:
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 I suppose in the end this kind of social Market features (starts and
 comments) are just useless.

I suppose what irritates a little bit about this is that it shouldn't
be useless. Peer review is a powerful for providing useful feedback to
users; there are a lot of services where I use this regularly.
Limiting users to bite-sized comments, preventing developer feedback
and follow-up, and disallowing ratings of comments allow for the
rampant abuse of the comment system by developers (cf. the way certain
developers build up good ratings), pirates, and spammers = useless
comment system.

Regards,

Michael A.

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Re: [android-developers] Re: Negative comment causing drop in sales

2010-08-29 Thread Kostya Vasilyev
Not being able to respond to a comment in a situation like this, just like
with comments caused by lack of knowledge on the user's part is well
very painful indeed.

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29.08.2010 23:05 пользователь Michael A. michael.aki...@gmail.com
написал:

On Aug 29, 11:04 am, Fabrizio Giudici fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it
wrote:
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 I suppose in the end this kind of social Market features (starts and
 comments) are just useles...
I suppose what irritates a little bit about this is that it shouldn't
be useless. Peer review is a powerful for providing useful feedback to
users; there are a lot of services where I use this regularly.
Limiting users to bite-sized comments, preventing developer feedback
and follow-up, and disallowing ratings of comments allow for the
rampant abuse of the comment system by developers (cf. the way certain
developers build up good ratings), pirates, and spammers = useless
comment system.

Regards,

Michael A.

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[android-developers] Re: Negative comment causing drop in sales

2010-08-29 Thread niko20
Yes it will always show in the dev console, because it's the  Market
app that filters out the comments that are marked as spam. A
definitive test is to mark a comment as spam, and then see if another
user with a device can see the comment or not.

As a test, look at Electrum Drum Machine, and tell me what the last
two comments (the first two in the list) say. Are any of them spam
about free websites? On my dev console I see they are, but on my
device they do not show up because I've marked them as spam before in
the past, so they stay filtered, at least on my devices.

This would be a good test to see what the spam filter really does.

I'm not sure why marking as spam would only hide the comment for the
current device - there would be little point in that type of
functionality.

Take a gander, TreKing, let me know what you find!



-niko20

On Aug 26, 1:47 pm, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 1:18 PM, Chris Stewart cstewart...@gmail.comwrote:

  I wouldn't do it just because I'd want to see if it ever changes.

 I tried with a positive comment just as an experiment. It still shows on the
 Developer Console, it only gets removed from your device.

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[android-developers] Re: Negative comment causing drop in sales

2010-08-29 Thread OldSkoolMark
Very nice app. Yep. You got free website spam. Why google is moving so
slowly to improve the market for both developers and potential users
continues to mystify ... It is obvious that market support for
communications between end user(s) and the developer is in the best
interest of everyone.

On Aug 29, 12:32 pm, niko20 nikolatesl...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Yes it will always show in the dev console, because it's the  Market
 app that filters out the comments that are marked as spam. A
 definitive test is to mark a comment as spam, and then see if another
 user with a device can see the comment or not.

 As a test, look at Electrum Drum Machine, and tell me what the last
 two comments (the first two in the list) say. Are any of them spam
 about free websites? On my dev console I see they are, but on my
 device they do not show up because I've marked them as spam before in
 the past, so they stay filtered, at least on my devices.

 This would be a good test to see what the spam filter really does.

 I'm not sure why marking as spam would only hide the comment for the
 current device - there would be little point in that type of
 functionality.

 Take a gander, TreKing, let me know what you find!

 -niko20

 On Aug 26, 1:47 pm, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote:

  On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 1:18 PM, Chris Stewart cstewart...@gmail.comwrote:

   I wouldn't do it just because I'd want to see if it ever changes.

  I tried with a positive comment just as an experiment. It still shows on the
  Developer Console, it only gets removed from your device.

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[android-developers] Re: Negative comment causing drop in sales

2010-08-28 Thread Michael A.
Thanks for pointing this out.

I hadn't noticed that feature of Androlib before, but this is a great
feature. I had an user making repeated comments on my app, and I
couldn't quite decide whether he was a legitimate user or an idiot.
Checking his history of comments turns up 90% of his comments of the
type Eh, Gay, Lame and Sux. Good to have that question sorted
out.

Regards,

Michael A.

Yahel wrote:
 Take a look at this :

 http://www.androlib.com/android.comment.author.smoke1331-pqEAB.aspx

 The guys seems to be randomly picking apps and sending this comment :s

 Good luck.

 Yahel

 On 26 août, 14:28, abowman abow...@gmail.com wrote:
  I've got an app in the marketplace that has no reported errors in the
  developer console.  The last comment I received basically stated - if
  the developer isn't going to fix the app everyone should get their
  money back and the app should be taken off the marketplace.  Sales
  have noticeable dropped ever since that comment was posted.
 
  What can I do about this?  The app is functioning as it should, but
  now people see the comment and think that there is something wrong
  with it.
 
  Is there anyway to respond to this false comment besides editing the
  description of my app?
 
  Is there anyway to get the comment removed, since there is nothing
  wrong with the app?  If there was something wrong, I would fix it.

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[android-developers] Re: Negative comment causing drop in sales

2010-08-28 Thread cyxb
My favorite one-star Market comment: Rate one star if you want the
full version to be free!.  Or another 1 star classic: Make the full
version free cuz my mom won't let me buy it

People are like lemmings.  A comment like that will cause an avalanche
of similar comments.  Likewise, a great comment may also trigger other
people to post nice comments.  I suppose it all evens out in the end,
or at least that's what I tell myself.

On Aug 28, 12:12 pm, Michael A. michael.aki...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks for pointing this out.

 I hadn't noticed that feature of Androlib before, but this is a great
 feature. I had an user making repeated comments on my app, and I
 couldn't quite decide whether he was a legitimate user or an idiot.
 Checking his history of comments turns up 90% of his comments of the
 type Eh, Gay, Lame and Sux. Good to have that question sorted
 out.

 Regards,

 Michael A.



 Yahel wrote:
  Take a look at this :

 http://www.androlib.com/android.comment.author.smoke1331-pqEAB.aspx

  The guys seems to be randomly picking apps and sending this comment :s

  Good luck.

  Yahel

  On 26 août, 14:28, abowman abow...@gmail.com wrote:
   I've got an app in the marketplace that has no reported errors in the
   developer console.  The last comment I received basically stated - if
   the developer isn't going to fix the app everyone should get their
   money back and the app should be taken off the marketplace.  Sales
   have noticeable dropped ever since that comment was posted.

   What can I do about this?  The app is functioning as it should, but
   now people see the comment and think that there is something wrong
   with it.

   Is there anyway to respond to this false comment besides editing the
   description of my app?

   Is there anyway to get the comment removed, since there is nothing
   wrong with the app?  If there was something wrong, I would fix it.

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[android-developers] Re: Negative comment causing drop in sales

2010-08-27 Thread nation-x
I suspect that alot of comments... especially on free apps are
competitors... not just trolls. I have had people post comments that
were entirely untrue about my apps before... in addition, you can
never underestimate the stupidity of the average user. I have had some
negative comments because the idiot couldn't figure out that there was
a menu button on his phone... so they didn't know how to access the
features of the app. Another thing that is annoying is this app does
not look appealing... what kind of comment is that and why would
anyone take the time to make such a comment?

Android Workz

On Aug 26, 9:50 pm, abowman abow...@gmail.com wrote:
 The marketplace should allow developers to easily respond to negative
 feedback the way Ebay allows sellers to respond to negative feedback
 from buyers.

 Right now, it is way too easy for a user to sabotage an application.

 On Aug 26, 3:27 pm, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote:

  On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 2:14 PM, Doug beafd...@gmail.com wrote:
   It may just be that Google is collecting enough data to make a
   strong assertion about what comments are actually spam or unhelpful
   (since comments != email, we can't just use known patterns).  I'd like
   to give Google the benefit of the doubt on this one.

  I'd like to as well, but there are apps on the market that have been around
  for a very long time, that get updated regularly to just show up in the
  Just In list, rated 2 starts or less, with comments from people stating
  things like Report this user as spam.

  I think there are definitely at least a handful of apps for which this holds
  true (granted, this is an assumption) and yet nothing has been done about
  them.

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[android-developers] Re: Negative comment causing drop in sales

2010-08-26 Thread Yahel
Take a look at this :

http://www.androlib.com/android.comment.author.smoke1331-pqEAB.aspx

The guys seems to be randomly picking apps and sending this comment :s

Good luck.

Yahel

On 26 août, 14:28, abowman abow...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've got an app in the marketplace that has no reported errors in the
 developer console.  The last comment I received basically stated - if
 the developer isn't going to fix the app everyone should get their
 money back and the app should be taken off the marketplace.  Sales
 have noticeable dropped ever since that comment was posted.

 What can I do about this?  The app is functioning as it should, but
 now people see the comment and think that there is something wrong
 with it.

 Is there anyway to respond to this false comment besides editing the
 description of my app?

 Is there anyway to get the comment removed, since there is nothing
 wrong with the app?  If there was something wrong, I would fix it.

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Re: [android-developers] Re: Negative comment causing drop in sales

2010-08-26 Thread { Devdroid }
On 26 August 2010 16:25, Yahel kaye...@gmail.com wrote:
 Take a look at this :
 http://www.androlib.com/android.comment.author.smoke1331-pqEAB.aspx
 The guys seems to be randomly picking apps and sending this comment :s

There're idiots everywhere, especially in anonymous community. You can
send comment removal request to google via Contacting Us -
Android Market Developers: Publishers  Merchants form. They may help

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Re: [android-developers] Re: Negative comment causing drop in sales

2010-08-26 Thread Chris Stewart
It's a tough situation.  On one hand, comments like that may actually be
truthful and useful to future users.  But in some cases, such as the person
mentioned above, it's just flat out useless and wrong.  I'm not sure there's
any easy answer or even an easy proposal to be offered to Google to correct
it.

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On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 10:29 AM, { Devdroid } webnet.andr...@gmail.comwrote:

 On 26 August 2010 16:25, Yahel kaye...@gmail.com wrote:
  Take a look at this :
  http://www.androlib.com/android.comment.author.smoke1331-pqEAB.aspx
  The guys seems to be randomly picking apps and sending this comment :s

 There're idiots everywhere, especially in anonymous community. You can
 send comment removal request to google via Contacting Us -
 Android Market Developers: Publishers  Merchants form. They may help

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[android-developers] Re: Negative comment causing drop in sales

2010-08-26 Thread niko20
Long press and mark the comment as spam



On Aug 26, 10:51 am, Chris Stewart cstewart...@gmail.com wrote:
 It's a tough situation.  On one hand, comments like that may actually be
 truthful and useful to future users.  But in some cases, such as the person
 mentioned above, it's just flat out useless and wrong.  I'm not sure there's
 any easy answer or even an easy proposal to be offered to Google to correct
 it.

 --
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 Fantasy 
 Footballhttp://chriswstewart.com/android-applications/fantasy-football/-
 Android app for MFL fantasy football owners
 Fantasy Football
 Insiderhttp://chriswstewart.com/android-applications/fantasy-football-insider/-
 Android app for all fantasy football fanatics
 Social Updaterhttp://chriswstewart.com/android-applications/social-updater/-
 An easy way to send your status blast to multiple social networks

 On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 10:29 AM, { Devdroid } 
 webnet.andr...@gmail.comwrote:



  On 26 August 2010 16:25, Yahel kaye...@gmail.com wrote:
   Take a look at this :
  http://www.androlib.com/android.comment.author.smoke1331-pqEAB.aspx
   The guys seems to be randomly picking apps and sending this comment :s

  There're idiots everywhere, especially in anonymous community. You can
  send comment removal request to google via Contacting Us -
  Android Market Developers: Publishers  Merchants form. They may help

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Re: [android-developers] Re: Negative comment causing drop in sales

2010-08-26 Thread TreKing
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 11:46 AM, niko20 nikolatesl...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Long press and mark the comment as spam


Note that all that really does is hide it from your own view. It does
nothing to get it removed from the Market completely.

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Re: [android-developers] Re: Negative comment causing drop in sales

2010-08-26 Thread { Devdroid }
On 26 August 2010 18:51, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 11:46 AM, niko20 nikolatesl...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Long press and mark the comment as spam

If would hide it from your sight only.

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Re: [android-developers] Re: Negative comment causing drop in sales

2010-08-26 Thread Chris Stewart
As others have said, it's not overly effective.  I wouldn't do it just
because I'd want to see if it ever changes.

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On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 12:46 PM, niko20 nikolatesl...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Long press and mark the comment as spam



 On Aug 26, 10:51 am, Chris Stewart cstewart...@gmail.com wrote:
  It's a tough situation.  On one hand, comments like that may actually be
  truthful and useful to future users.  But in some cases, such as the
 person
  mentioned above, it's just flat out useless and wrong.  I'm not sure
 there's
  any easy answer or even an easy proposal to be offered to Google to
 correct
  it.
 
  --
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 http://chriswstewart.com/android-applications/fantasy-football/-
  Android app for MFL fantasy football owners
  Fantasy Football
  Insider
 http://chriswstewart.com/android-applications/fantasy-football-insider/-
  Android app for all fantasy football fanatics
  Social Updater
 http://chriswstewart.com/android-applications/social-updater/-
  An easy way to send your status blast to multiple social networks
 
  On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 10:29 AM, { Devdroid } webnet.andr...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 
 
   On 26 August 2010 16:25, Yahel kaye...@gmail.com wrote:
Take a look at this :
   http://www.androlib.com/android.comment.author.smoke1331-pqEAB.aspx
The guys seems to be randomly picking apps and sending this comment
 :s
 
   There're idiots everywhere, especially in anonymous community. You
 can
   send comment removal request to google via Contacting Us -
   Android Market Developers: Publishers  Merchants form. They may help
 
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Re: [android-developers] Re: Negative comment causing drop in sales

2010-08-26 Thread TreKing
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 1:18 PM, Chris Stewart cstewart...@gmail.comwrote:

 I wouldn't do it just because I'd want to see if it ever changes.


I tried with a positive comment just as an experiment. It still shows on the
Developer Console, it only gets removed from your device.

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[android-developers] Re: Negative comment causing drop in sales

2010-08-26 Thread Doug
Empirically speaking, that seems to be true.  But we also know that
spam filters need lots of data to work with to be effective.  It may
just be that Google is collecting enough data to make a strong
assertion about what comments are actually spam or unhelpful (since
comments != email, we can't just use known patterns).  I'd like to
give Google the benefit of the doubt on this one.

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Re: [android-developers] Re: Negative comment causing drop in sales

2010-08-26 Thread TreKing
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 2:14 PM, Doug beafd...@gmail.com wrote:

 It may just be that Google is collecting enough data to make a
 strong assertion about what comments are actually spam or unhelpful
 (since comments != email, we can't just use known patterns).  I'd like
 to give Google the benefit of the doubt on this one.


I'd like to as well, but there are apps on the market that have been around
for a very long time, that get updated regularly to just show up in the
Just In list, rated 2 starts or less, with comments from people stating
things like Report this user as spam.

I think there are definitely at least a handful of apps for which this holds
true (granted, this is an assumption) and yet nothing has been done about
them.

-
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[android-developers] Re: Negative comment causing drop in sales

2010-08-26 Thread abowman
The marketplace should allow developers to easily respond to negative
feedback the way Ebay allows sellers to respond to negative feedback
from buyers.

Right now, it is way too easy for a user to sabotage an application.



On Aug 26, 3:27 pm, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 2:14 PM, Doug beafd...@gmail.com wrote:
  It may just be that Google is collecting enough data to make a
  strong assertion about what comments are actually spam or unhelpful
  (since comments != email, we can't just use known patterns).  I'd like
  to give Google the benefit of the doubt on this one.

 I'd like to as well, but there are apps on the market that have been around
 for a very long time, that get updated regularly to just show up in the
 Just In list, rated 2 starts or less, with comments from people stating
 things like Report this user as spam.

 I think there are definitely at least a handful of apps for which this holds
 true (granted, this is an assumption) and yet nothing has been done about
 them.

 -
 TreKing http://sites.google.com/site/rezmobileapps/treking - Chicago
 transit tracking app for Android-powered devices

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