[android-developers] Re: Proposal to Market Place
person give you one just because they want to be jerks. I would like to propose a change . Good luck proposing, nobody's listening :s to the market rating system where a rate of 1 or 5 must include comments What you'll get is : 1 star ratings with the following very helpful(but short to type) comments : - lame - wt wrk - awful - meh Even worst : Upset that they can't post their one star rating without a comment they'll make it count by being even meaner :s And for the 5 stars ratings they'll be the same as now but a lot fewer since they require more work. So you'll have the worst of both world :D If you really want feedback on your app, you should probably simply implement it in your app and ask for it when people press your Quit button(that you really shouldn't have because it's against android policy...but anyway :) Not sure if this advice applies to you but this type of rating system exists since arpanet or so and works very well. In the long term, 1 star-jerk rating are just overwhelmed with the 4 and 5 stars of people who took time to actually test your app and understood it. So wait a few weeks and it won't matter anymore And one last thought, even though it is tough to see them appear in the comment list, 1 star-jerk rating means nothing about your app if they are not the norm in your ratings. They just give you a clue about the lazyness and attention span of the 1 star-jerker :D Oh and one last-last thought : If your last comment out of 3 comments in total is this 1 star-jerk rating, did you know you can download your app, rate it and comment it under your google market account ? Every time you change your comment it will come back to the top. Take care. Yahel On Dec 2, 7:06 pm, Leon Moreyn-Android Development lmor...@earthcam.com wrote: As a developer I find it difficult to understanding ratings sometime. 1 to 5 is a good scale. But here is the problem with scale you can have people give you a five for the sake of giving you a five or a If I am receiving a one due to technical Also with the 5 I would like to know what is working so very good on my app that I could continue to use it in future developments. This way as we develop more apps we can get a better sense as what the rating really mean and the ppl who are rating the apps really think about them. 1 and 5 the extremes should require feedback as the 2 to 4 are mostly middle ground and could be left alone for the average jerk to rate. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Proposal to Market Place
Good ideas, but as has been said, good luck with that. Some observations, if I may: 1) A developer shouldn't rely so much on ratings for feedback. Built-in bug reporting, email, a user network, a marketing site with user comments all provide a better dialog than the market's half-ass rating system. 2) How much do ratings really influence users? Users are either looking for ratings that support their prejudice (these are not your best users) or they are looking for a consistent pattern. Your best users understand how ratings can be gamed and can usually see through the nonsense. Also note that your pitch in the Android Market is likely going to influence users as much as the ratings. Do you have computer progammers write that, or do you hire (read: invest in) an experienced copywriter? 3) Ratings are just a half-assed way of letting potential users sort out apps on the market. Few, if any are actually objective. Imagine if the auto industry relied on a rating system like that. 4) I might also note that eBay uses ratings entirely differently. They don't rate the product. Perhaps that would be a better direction for the Android Market. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Proposal to Market Place
...did you know you can download your app, rate it and comment it under your google market account ? A far better use for this tactic is to answer negative comments with a preface like Developer Comment: I've tested the app completely on the XYZ and it works perfectly. or something to that effect. That way you show any potential users that you care about the comments and are actively engaged, plus the obvious fact that the thing does in fact work on the XYZ in spite of the 1 star jerk's comment. As for feedback from users, I suggest making it very easy for them by supplying a method for them to simply click a button/link/whatever in side the app to contact you directly. That's what I do and have received extremely valuable suggestions and bug reports and questions from people having some sort of difficulty. The easier you make it for your users to interact with you, the better their experience will be. Isn't that the entire point? -John Coryat -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
