Re: Call for Papers for ApacheCon Europe 2012 now open!
Hi On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 3:02 AM, Steve Holden st...@holdenweb.com wrote: On Jul 20, 2012, at 4:42 PM, Nick Kew wrote: On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 19:14:57 +0100 (BST) Nick Burch nick.bu...@alfresco.com wrote: If you'd like to submit a talk proposal, please visit the conference website at http://www.apachecon.eu/ and sign up for a new account. Once you've signed up, use your dashboard to enter your speaker bio, then submit your talk proposal(s). There's more information on the CFP page on the conference website. I found the submission form confusing: 1. The brief outline suggest 400 characters. But when I submit it tells me the limit is 200 - a very brief outline indeed! That sounds like a bug, which we will report for fixing. Thank you. 2. I thought I was saving a draft, but it tells me my proposal is submitted. Whoops! It's possible to go back to your proposal and edit it. I can't remember off-hand how you delete one, so wo;; ask. AFAIK you only can cancel it but not to delete it, this is based on the last time I tested the site How much of that is intentional? -- Nick Kew As you can see, not all of it. Thanks again for your report. regards Steve -- Steve Holden st...@holdenweb.com, Holden Web, LLC http://holdenweb.com/ Python classes (and much more) through the web http://oreillyschool.com/ Conferences and technical event management at http://theopenbastion.com/ Next: DjangoCon US Sep 6-8, Washington DC http://djangocon.us/ -- Thanks - Mohammad Nour Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving - Albert Einstein
Re: Apachecon EU 2012 - Which track for Apache Syncope (incubating)?
Hi Francesco... On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Francesco Chicchiriccò ilgro...@apache.org wrote: Hi all, I'd like to propose to the Apache Syncope (incubating) team a talk about the project at ApacheCon EU 2012. Any hint about the track? As Identity Manager, Syncope would naturally belong to something related to enterprise domain integration. Maybe JEE [1]? Indeed, ApacheEE would be a perfect place for such project Thanks for your support. Regards. [1] http://www.apachecon.eu/tracks/#apache-ee -- Francesco Chicchiriccò ASF Member, Apache Cocoon PMC and Apache Syncope PPMC Member http://people.apache.org/~ilgrosso/ -- Thanks - Mohammad Nour Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving - Albert Einstein
Re: Apachecon EU 2012 - Which Track for a middleware as Apache Etch?
Hi! Don't think that ApachEE fits good for Etch. ApachEE is focusing purely on our Java EE core technologies stack. Same for Syncope, though it's much closer. Would be nice to explain the overlaps/difference between Syncope and Shiro btw ;) Maybe we could have a 2nd track which supplements the ApachEE core track and showcases the different Enterprise Integration scenarios. Maybe that would also fit to Camel and it's parts? In general: we have quite a few projects which sound like the same on the first glance, but are heavily different at the end: Syncope/Shiro Jackrabbit/Sling Accumulo/Cassandra ... Would be interesting to better explain the differences? Not sure if this is an easy to cover conference topic though, but I got lots of questions regarding the focus of a few projects. LieGrue, strub - Original Message - From: Mohammad Nour El-Din nour.moham...@gmail.com To: apachecon-discuss@apache.org Cc: Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 11:28 AM Subject: Re: Apachecon EU 2012 - Which Track for a middleware as Apache Etch? Hi Martin On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 9:03 AM, Martin Veith martin.ve...@bmw-carit.dewrote: Hi all, the Apache Etch (incubating) team would like to give a talk about the project at ApacheCon EU 2012. As we are currenlty preparing our proposal we are asking ourself which track fits the best. Etch is a middleware framework to build and consum network services. (for more details: http://incubator.apache.org/etch) In my opinion, a middleware is not a classical Web Infrastructure or Cloud topic. Maybe Apache Daily? What do you think? What about http://www.apachecon.eu/tracks/#apache-ee IMO this fits in the enterprise applications related category more specifically integration and services oriented software development Thanks, Martin -- Thanks - Mohammad Nour Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving - Albert Einstein
Re: Apachecon EU 2012 - Which Track for a middleware as Apache Etch?
On 23/07/2012 12:43, Mark Struberg wrote: Hi! Don't think that ApachEE fits good for Etch. ApachEE is focusing purely on our Java EE core technologies stack. Same for Syncope, though it's much closer. Would be nice to explain the overlaps/difference between Syncope and Shiro btw ;) Uh, quite easy, indeed: Shiro is an Access Manager [1] while Syncope is an Identity Manager [2] Access Management is more about authentication, Single SignOn, Federation, ... Identity Management is more about user provisioning, password management, ... These two areas can be easily confused because in almost every application domain they are tightly connected; think, for example, that Syncope roadmap [3] contains an integration path with Shiro. Maybe we could have a 2nd track which supplements the ApachEE core track and showcases the different Enterprise Integration scenarios. This sounds reasonable to me and in the direction of the aborted Integration Service APIs track [4]. Regards. Maybe that would also fit to Camel and it's parts? In general: we have quite a few projects which sound like the same on the first glance, but are heavily different at the end: Syncope/Shiro Jackrabbit/Sling Accumulo/Cassandra ... Would be interesting to better explain the differences? Not sure if this is an easy to cover conference topic though, but I got lots of questions regarding the focus of a few projects. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_access_management [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identity_management [3] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SYNCOPE/Roadmap#Roadmap-3.0.0%28Maggiore%29 [4] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-apachecon-discuss/201206.mbox/%3C4FE2DB7A.20103%40apache.org%3E - Original Message - From: Mohammad Nour El-Din nour.moham...@gmail.com To: apachecon-discuss@apache.org Cc: Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 11:28 AM Subject: Re: Apachecon EU 2012 - Which Track for a middleware as Apache Etch? Hi Martin On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 9:03 AM, Martin Veith martin.ve...@bmw-carit.dewrote: Hi all, the Apache Etch (incubating) team would like to give a talk about the project at ApacheCon EU 2012. As we are currenlty preparing our proposal we are asking ourself which track fits the best. Etch is a middleware framework to build and consum network services. (for more details: http://incubator.apache.org/etch) In my opinion, a middleware is not a classical Web Infrastructure or Cloud topic. Maybe Apache Daily? What do you think? What about http://www.apachecon.eu/tracks/#apache-ee IMO this fits in the enterprise applications related category more specifically integration and services oriented software development -- Francesco Chicchiriccò ASF Member, Apache Cocoon PMC and Apache Syncope PPMC Member http://people.apache.org/~ilgrosso/
Re: Apache Flex
On 23/07/12 10:21, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote: On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 11:14 AM, Olivier Lamy ol...@apache.org wrote: Tools track ? You mean the Apache Daily ? But I don't think it would be Fair for Flex to be there, I believe it should be in [1]. Justin what do you think ? If the project thinks it's a good fix, then it'd be great if someone with the appropriate karma[1] could list the project against the track on the tracks page, to help future people find it Nick [1] We can grant karma to more people as needed, just ask if you're going to be doing some work on the content of the website
Re: Apachecon EU 2012 - Which Track for a middleware as Apache Etch?
Hi, I'm also having difficulties getting James in any of the tracks listed. Could fit to Apache EE or Web Infrastructure or maybe even OFBiz. But doesn't identify itself with any of them. I'll submit a talk about using James as a gateway for email-to-any (twitter, XMMP, etc. ). Any suggestions are welcomed. Cheers, 2012/7/23 Mark Struberg strub...@yahoo.de: Hi! Don't think that ApachEE fits good for Etch. ApachEE is focusing purely on our Java EE core technologies stack. Same for Syncope, though it's much closer. Would be nice to explain the overlaps/difference between Syncope and Shiro btw ;) Maybe we could have a 2nd track which supplements the ApachEE core track and showcases the different Enterprise Integration scenarios. Maybe that would also fit to Camel and it's parts? In general: we have quite a few projects which sound like the same on the first glance, but are heavily different at the end: Syncope/Shiro Jackrabbit/Sling Accumulo/Cassandra ... Would be interesting to better explain the differences? Not sure if this is an easy to cover conference topic though, but I got lots of questions regarding the focus of a few projects. LieGrue, strub - Original Message - From: Mohammad Nour El-Din nour.moham...@gmail.com To: apachecon-discuss@apache.org Cc: Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 11:28 AM Subject: Re: Apachecon EU 2012 - Which Track for a middleware as Apache Etch? Hi Martin On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 9:03 AM, Martin Veith martin.ve...@bmw-carit.dewrote: Hi all, the Apache Etch (incubating) team would like to give a talk about the project at ApacheCon EU 2012. As we are currenlty preparing our proposal we are asking ourself which track fits the best. Etch is a middleware framework to build and consum network services. (for more details: http://incubator.apache.org/etch) In my opinion, a middleware is not a classical Web Infrastructure or Cloud topic. Maybe Apache Daily? What do you think? What about http://www.apachecon.eu/tracks/#apache-ee IMO this fits in the enterprise applications related category more specifically integration and services oriented software development Thanks, Martin -- Thanks - Mohammad Nour Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving - Albert Einstein -- Ioan Eugen Stan / CTO / http://axemblr.com
Re: Apachecon EU 2012 - Which Track for a middleware as Apache Etch?
Hi On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Nick Burch nick.bu...@alfresco.com wrote: On Mon, 23 Jul 2012, Ioan Eugen Stan wrote: I'm also having difficulties getting James in any of the tracks listed. Could fit to Apache EE or Web Infrastructure or maybe even OFBiz. But doesn't identify itself with any of them. Tracks are based on the proposals we received from projects before the CFP. Not all projects responded at the time :/ So there are gaps now. I'll submit a talk about using James as a gateway for email-to-any (twitter, XMMP, etc. ). If there's one really obvious track, let us know and we can add the project to the list for that track. If there are a couple of possible tracks, submit against the most likely, and add a note in the additional notes field about the other track(s) that might work too. Thats actually the main logic behind which I chose ApacheEE for these proposals as yes it might not be a directly related to EE applications but any EE application needs security and also integration technologies so they are some how related. That is at least how I think about it. Nick -- Thanks - Mohammad Nour Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving - Albert Einstein
Re: Apachecon EU 2012 - Which Track for a middleware as Apache Etch?
Hi Nour, Your logic is reasonable. The only thing that's misleading is the name. ApacheEE may be a good home for enterprise project not directly related to Java EE. For instance James can be deployed as a WAR but not it's not usually the case. That being said I think ApacheEE is the more likely home for James as it's component based (using Spring) and can be deployed as a WAR. If it's ok with you I'll like to add it myself to ApacheEE track. The only request I have is to tell me how I can do that so I can be of help with page editing in the future. I've missed that course unfortunately. p.s. I was expecting the website to use Apache CMS but it's not. Cheers, 2012/7/23 Mohammad Nour El-Din nour.moham...@gmail.com: Hi On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Nick Burch nick.bu...@alfresco.com wrote: On Mon, 23 Jul 2012, Ioan Eugen Stan wrote: I'm also having difficulties getting James in any of the tracks listed. Could fit to Apache EE or Web Infrastructure or maybe even OFBiz. But doesn't identify itself with any of them. Tracks are based on the proposals we received from projects before the CFP. Not all projects responded at the time :/ So there are gaps now. I'll submit a talk about using James as a gateway for email-to-any (twitter, XMMP, etc. ). If there's one really obvious track, let us know and we can add the project to the list for that track. If there are a couple of possible tracks, submit against the most likely, and add a note in the additional notes field about the other track(s) that might work too. Thats actually the main logic behind which I chose ApacheEE for these proposals as yes it might not be a directly related to EE applications but any EE application needs security and also integration technologies so they are some how related. That is at least how I think about it. Nick -- Thanks - Mohammad Nour Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving - Albert Einstein -- Ioan Eugen Stan / CTO / http://axemblr.com
Re: Apachecon EU 2012 - Which Track for a middleware as Apache Etch?
From: Francesco Chicchiriccò ilgro...@apache.org On 23/07/2012 12:43, Mark Struberg wrote: Hi! Don't think that ApachEE fits good for Etch. ApachEE is focusing purely on our Java EE core technologies stack. Same for Syncope, though it's much closer. Would be nice to explain the overlaps/difference between Syncope and Shiro btw ;) Uh, quite easy, indeed: Shiro is an Access Manager [1] while Syncope is an Identity Manager [2] Access Management is more about authentication, Single SignOn, Federation, ... Identity Management is more about user provisioning, password management, ... These two areas can be easily confused because in almost every application domain they are tightly connected; think, for example, that Syncope roadmap [3] contains an integration path with Shiro. Maybe we could have a 2nd track which supplements the ApachEE core track and showcases the different Enterprise Integration scenarios. This sounds reasonable to me and in the direction of the aborted Integration Service APIs track [4]. Regards. Thanks for this answer, Pretty useful, we (at least I) hope to use both of them in OFBiz... one day... BTW how Syncope relates to NIST http://csrc.nist.gov/groups/SNS/rbac/ ? Jacques Maybe that would also fit to Camel and it's parts? In general: we have quite a few projects which sound like the same on the first glance, but are heavily different at the end: Syncope/Shiro Jackrabbit/Sling Accumulo/Cassandra ... Would be interesting to better explain the differences? Not sure if this is an easy to cover conference topic though, but I got lots of questions regarding the focus of a few projects. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_access_management [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identity_management [3] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SYNCOPE/Roadmap#Roadmap-3.0.0%28Maggiore%29 [4] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-apachecon-discuss/201206.mbox/%3C4FE2DB7A.20103%40apache.org%3E - Original Message - From: Mohammad Nour El-Din nour.moham...@gmail.com To: apachecon-discuss@apache.org Cc: Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 11:28 AM Subject: Re: Apachecon EU 2012 - Which Track for a middleware as Apache Etch? Hi Martin On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 9:03 AM, Martin Veith martin.ve...@bmw-carit.dewrote: Hi all, the Apache Etch (incubating) team would like to give a talk about the project at ApacheCon EU 2012. As we are currenlty preparing our proposal we are asking ourself which track fits the best. Etch is a middleware framework to build and consum network services. (for more details: http://incubator.apache.org/etch) In my opinion, a middleware is not a classical Web Infrastructure or Cloud topic. Maybe Apache Daily? What do you think? What about http://www.apachecon.eu/tracks/#apache-ee IMO this fits in the enterprise applications related category more specifically integration and services oriented software development -- Francesco Chicchiriccò ASF Member, Apache Cocoon PMC and Apache Syncope PPMC Member http://people.apache.org/~ilgrosso/
Re: Apachecon EU 2012 - Which Track for a middleware as Apache Etch?
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012, Ioan Eugen Stan wrote: If it's ok with you I'll like to add it myself to ApacheEE track. Go ahead and submit your proposal to that track! The only request I have is to tell me how I can do that so I can be of help with page editing in the future. I've missed that course unfortunately. If you let us know your username for the site, we can grant you karma so you can edit the track description to expand it p.s. I was expecting the website to use Apache CMS but it's not. Nope, it's a single system for website + proposal + scheduling + Nick
Re: Apachecon EU 2012 - Which Track for a middleware as Apache Etch?
On 23/07/2012 15:15, Jacques Le Roux wrote: From: Francesco Chicchiriccò ilgro...@apache.org On 23/07/2012 12:43, Mark Struberg wrote: Hi! Don't think that ApachEE fits good for Etch. ApachEE is focusing purely on our Java EE core technologies stack. Same for Syncope, though it's much closer. Would be nice to explain the overlaps/difference between Syncope and Shiro btw ;) Uh, quite easy, indeed: Shiro is an Access Manager [1] while Syncope is an Identity Manager [2] Access Management is more about authentication, Single SignOn, Federation, ... Identity Management is more about user provisioning, password management, ... These two areas can be easily confused because in almost every application domain they are tightly connected; think, for example, that Syncope roadmap [3] contains an integration path with Shiro. Maybe we could have a 2nd track which supplements the ApachEE core track and showcases the different Enterprise Integration scenarios. This sounds reasonable to me and in the direction of the aborted Integration Service APIs track [4]. Regards. Thanks for this answer, Pretty useful, we (at least I) hope to use both of them in OFBiz... one day... BTW how Syncope relates to NIST http://csrc.nist.gov/groups/SNS/rbac/ ? Hi Jacques, thanks for your interest. At the moment there is no direct relation with external Role Based Access Control (RBAC), while Syncope is implementing such approach for its own internal authentication and authorization model; anyway it is something noticeable for the roadmap: why don't you start a thread on syncope-...@incubator.apache.org? Regards. Maybe that would also fit to Camel and it's parts? In general: we have quite a few projects which sound like the same on the first glance, but are heavily different at the end: Syncope/Shiro Jackrabbit/Sling Accumulo/Cassandra ... Would be interesting to better explain the differences? Not sure if this is an easy to cover conference topic though, but I got lots of questions regarding the focus of a few projects. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_access_management [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identity_management [3] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SYNCOPE/Roadmap#Roadmap-3.0.0%28Maggiore%29 [4] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-apachecon-discuss/201206.mbox/%3C4FE2DB7A.20103%40apache.org%3E - Original Message - From: Mohammad Nour El-Din nour.moham...@gmail.com To: apachecon-discuss@apache.org Cc: Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 11:28 AM Subject: Re: Apachecon EU 2012 - Which Track for a middleware as Apache Etch? Hi Martin On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 9:03 AM, Martin Veith martin.ve...@bmw-carit.dewrote: Hi all, the Apache Etch (incubating) team would like to give a talk about the project at ApacheCon EU 2012. As we are currenlty preparing our proposal we are asking ourself which track fits the best. Etch is a middleware framework to build and consum network services. (for more details: http://incubator.apache.org/etch) In my opinion, a middleware is not a classical Web Infrastructure or Cloud topic. Maybe Apache Daily? What do you think? What about http://www.apachecon.eu/tracks/#apache-ee IMO this fits in the enterprise applications related category more specifically integration and services oriented software development -- Francesco Chicchiriccò ASF Member, Apache Cocoon PMC and Apache Syncope PPMC Member http://people.apache.org/~ilgrosso/ -- Francesco Chicchiriccò ASF Member, Apache Cocoon PMC and Apache Syncope PPMC Member http://people.apache.org/~ilgrosso/
Re: Apachecon EU 2012 - Which Track for a middleware as Apache Etch?
From: Francesco Chicchiriccò ilgro...@apache.org On 23/07/2012 15:15, Jacques Le Roux wrote: From: Francesco Chicchiriccò ilgro...@apache.org On 23/07/2012 12:43, Mark Struberg wrote: Hi! Don't think that ApachEE fits good for Etch. ApachEE is focusing purely on our Java EE core technologies stack. Same for Syncope, though it's much closer. Would be nice to explain the overlaps/difference between Syncope and Shiro btw ;) Uh, quite easy, indeed: Shiro is an Access Manager [1] while Syncope is an Identity Manager [2] Access Management is more about authentication, Single SignOn, Federation, ... Identity Management is more about user provisioning, password management, ... These two areas can be easily confused because in almost every application domain they are tightly connected; think, for example, that Syncope roadmap [3] contains an integration path with Shiro. Maybe we could have a 2nd track which supplements the ApachEE core track and showcases the different Enterprise Integration scenarios. This sounds reasonable to me and in the direction of the aborted Integration Service APIs track [4]. Regards. Thanks for this answer, Pretty useful, we (at least I) hope to use both of them in OFBiz... one day... BTW how Syncope relates to NIST http://csrc.nist.gov/groups/SNS/rbac/ ? Hi Jacques, thanks for your interest. At the moment there is no direct relation with external Role Based Access Control (RBAC), while Syncope is implementing such approach for its own internal authentication and authorization model; anyway it is something noticeable for the roadmap: why don't you start a thread on syncope-...@incubator.apache.org? It's too early yet. We are just restructuring the core. And anyway I have not much availabilit to put in it at the moment. But I keep the idea! Jacques Regards. Maybe that would also fit to Camel and it's parts? In general: we have quite a few projects which sound like the same on the first glance, but are heavily different at the end: Syncope/Shiro Jackrabbit/Sling Accumulo/Cassandra ... Would be interesting to better explain the differences? Not sure if this is an easy to cover conference topic though, but I got lots of questions regarding the focus of a few projects. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_access_management [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identity_management [3] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SYNCOPE/Roadmap#Roadmap-3.0.0%28Maggiore%29 [4] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-apachecon-discuss/201206.mbox/%3C4FE2DB7A.20103%40apache.org%3E - Original Message - From: Mohammad Nour El-Din nour.moham...@gmail.com To: apachecon-discuss@apache.org Cc: Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 11:28 AM Subject: Re: Apachecon EU 2012 - Which Track for a middleware as Apache Etch? Hi Martin On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 9:03 AM, Martin Veith martin.ve...@bmw-carit.dewrote: Hi all, the Apache Etch (incubating) team would like to give a talk about the project at ApacheCon EU 2012. As we are currenlty preparing our proposal we are asking ourself which track fits the best. Etch is a middleware framework to build and consum network services. (for more details: http://incubator.apache.org/etch) In my opinion, a middleware is not a classical Web Infrastructure or Cloud topic. Maybe Apache Daily? What do you think? What about http://www.apachecon.eu/tracks/#apache-ee IMO this fits in the enterprise applications related category more specifically integration and services oriented software development -- Francesco Chicchiriccò ASF Member, Apache Cocoon PMC and Apache Syncope PPMC Member http://people.apache.org/~ilgrosso/ -- Francesco Chicchiriccò ASF Member, Apache Cocoon PMC and Apache Syncope PPMC Member http://people.apache.org/~ilgrosso/
Messaging track
Hi, I just proposed a few talks on ActiveMQ under Camel in Action track. If those are accepted, I think it'd be better to have a separate Messaging track for these and other potentially related talks. Regards -- Dejan Bosanac Senior Software Engineer | FuseSource Corp. dej...@fusesource.com | fusesource.com skype: dejan.bosanac | twitter: @dejanb blog: http://www.nighttale.net ActiveMQ in Action: http://www.manning.com/snyder/
Re: Travel Assistance program
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012, Ted Yu wrote: https://tac-apply.apache.org/ still refers to ApacheCon NA 2011 Vancouverhttp://na11.apachecon.com/ When can it be ready for ApacheCon EU 2012 ? All being well, in about 4 or 5 hours, so I'm told by Gav. As mentioned in a previous thread last week, the webapp is having to move boxes, and there have been some snags. DNS will switch over when the new box is ready Nick
Re: Apachecon EU 2012 - Which Track for a middleware as Apache Etch?
On 23/07/12 12:06, Francesco Chicchiriccò wrote: Maybe we could have a 2nd track which supplements the ApachEE core track and showcases the different Enterprise Integration scenarios. This sounds reasonable to me and in the direction of the aborted Integration Service APIs track [4]. Maybe that would also fit to Camel and it's parts? If there are the volunteers to run the track, then we can certainly look at adding a new one, and maybe rolling the Camel track into it! We'd need to make that call soon though. Any takers for being the track chairs? Nick
Re: Apachecon EU 2012 - Which Track for a middleware as Apache Etch?
Hi Ioan... On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 4:58 PM, Ioan Eugen Stan stan.ieu...@gmail.comwrote: 2012/7/23 Ioan Eugen Stan stan.ieu...@gmail.com: Hi Nour, Your logic is reasonable. The only thing that's misleading is the name. ApacheEE may be a good home for enterprise project not directly related to Java EE. For instance James can be deployed as a WAR but not it's not usually the case. That being said I think ApacheEE is the more likely home for James as it's component based (using Spring) and can be deployed as a WAR. Sorry for re-replaying: I've meant to say that some enterprise things are not necessarily JavaEE and ApacheEE make me think only JavaEE. Note to self: I should re-read stuff before I send. :) no worries If it's ok with you I'll like to add it myself to ApacheEE track. The only request I have is to tell me how I can do that so I can be of help with page editing in the future. I've missed that course unfortunately. p.s. I was expecting the website to use Apache CMS but it's not. Cheers, 2012/7/23 Mohammad Nour El-Din nour.moham...@gmail.com: Hi On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Nick Burch nick.bu...@alfresco.com wrote: On Mon, 23 Jul 2012, Ioan Eugen Stan wrote: I'm also having difficulties getting James in any of the tracks listed. Could fit to Apache EE or Web Infrastructure or maybe even OFBiz. But doesn't identify itself with any of them. Tracks are based on the proposals we received from projects before the CFP. Not all projects responded at the time :/ So there are gaps now. I'll submit a talk about using James as a gateway for email-to-any (twitter, XMMP, etc. ). If there's one really obvious track, let us know and we can add the project to the list for that track. If there are a couple of possible tracks, submit against the most likely, and add a note in the additional notes field about the other track(s) that might work too. Thats actually the main logic behind which I chose ApacheEE for these proposals as yes it might not be a directly related to EE applications but any EE application needs security and also integration technologies so they are some how related. That is at least how I think about it. Nick -- Thanks - Mohammad Nour Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving - Albert Einstein -- Ioan Eugen Stan / CTO / http://axemblr.com -- Ioan Eugen Stan / CTO / http://axemblr.com -- Thanks - Mohammad Nour Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving - Albert Einstein
Re: Apachecon EU 2012 - Which Track for a middleware as Apache Etch?
Hi Nick... On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Nick Burch nick.bu...@alfresco.com wrote: On 23/07/12 12:06, Francesco Chicchiriccň wrote: Maybe we could have a 2nd track which supplements the ApachEE core track and showcases the different Enterprise Integration scenarios. This sounds reasonable to me and in the direction of the aborted Integration Service APIs track [4]. Maybe that would also fit to Camel and it's parts? If there are the volunteers to run the track, then we can certainly look at adding a new one, and maybe rolling the Camel track into it! We'd need to make that call soon though. Any takers for being the track chairs? Good idea, we could name it (Enterprise) Integration track, but as you said that would need a chair Nick -- Thanks - Mohammad Nour Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving - Albert Einstein
Re: Messaging track
Doesn't that make more reasonable to turn Camel In Action track into Integration and maybe Messaging and Integration track ? On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Nick Burch nick.bu...@alfresco.com wrote: On Mon, 23 Jul 2012, Dejan Bosanac wrote: I just proposed a few talks on ActiveMQ under Camel in Action track. If those are accepted, I think it'd be better to have a separate Messaging track for these and other potentially related talks. We can broaden tracks out if there's interest - tracks at the moment are based on the submissions received from projects, and not all projects responded... If you think it'd be a good thing for the community to broaden it, and if the person down to be track chair for the track does to, we can make the change. Check with them, check with the communities, and let us know if the consensus is to do that! (Whether you can have a separate track depends on the submissions received. The tracks so far are provisional, and will only go ahead if they get enough good talks proposed. If you have a great, late idea for a track, and it gets enough submissions, we can accept it, but it may have to be at the expense of another track that didn't get many good submissions to it...) Nick -- Thanks - Mohammad Nour Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving - Albert Einstein
Re: Messaging track
Would it be better to add an unclassified track for tings that don't fit? The difficulty with this is that it should really have been part of the CfP ... regards Steve On Jul 23, 2012, at 2:40 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote: Doesn't that make more reasonable to turn Camel In Action track into Integration and maybe Messaging and Integration track ? On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Nick Burch nick.bu...@alfresco.com wrote: On Mon, 23 Jul 2012, Dejan Bosanac wrote: I just proposed a few talks on ActiveMQ under Camel in Action track. If those are accepted, I think it'd be better to have a separate Messaging track for these and other potentially related talks. We can broaden tracks out if there's interest - tracks at the moment are based on the submissions received from projects, and not all projects responded... If you think it'd be a good thing for the community to broaden it, and if the person down to be track chair for the track does to, we can make the change. Check with them, check with the communities, and let us know if the consensus is to do that! (Whether you can have a separate track depends on the submissions received. The tracks so far are provisional, and will only go ahead if they get enough good talks proposed. If you have a great, late idea for a track, and it gets enough submissions, we can accept it, but it may have to be at the expense of another track that didn't get many good submissions to it...) Nick -- Thanks - Mohammad Nour Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving - Albert Einstein -- Steve Holden st...@holdenweb.com, Holden Web, LLC http://holdenweb.com/ Python classes (and much more) through the web http://oreillyschool.com/ Conferences and technical event management at http://theopenbastion.com/ Next: DjangoCon US Sep 6-8, Washington DC http://djangocon.us/
Re: Apachecon EU 2012 - Which Track for a middleware as Apache Etch?
On another thought, why not the already existing Camel track chair to be the same for the one that might be named (Enterprise) Integration track ? On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 11:31 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din nour.moham...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Nick... On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Nick Burch nick.bu...@alfresco.comwrote: On 23/07/12 12:06, Francesco Chicchiriccň wrote: Maybe we could have a 2nd track which supplements the ApachEE core track and showcases the different Enterprise Integration scenarios. This sounds reasonable to me and in the direction of the aborted Integration Service APIs track [4]. Maybe that would also fit to Camel and it's parts? If there are the volunteers to run the track, then we can certainly look at adding a new one, and maybe rolling the Camel track into it! We'd need to make that call soon though. Any takers for being the track chairs? Good idea, we could name it (Enterprise) Integration track, but as you said that would need a chair Nick -- Thanks - Mohammad Nour Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving - Albert Einstein -- Thanks - Mohammad Nour Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving - Albert Einstein
Re: Messaging track
On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 11:49 PM, Steve Holden st...@holdenweb.com wrote: Would it be better to add an unclassified track for tings that don't fit? The difficulty with this is that it should really have been part of the CfP ... But unclassified would be sort of a misleading and I am afraid to say that it might give some negative influence when ppl read it ? regards Steve On Jul 23, 2012, at 2:40 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote: Doesn't that make more reasonable to turn Camel In Action track into Integration and maybe Messaging and Integration track ? On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Nick Burch nick.bu...@alfresco.com wrote: On Mon, 23 Jul 2012, Dejan Bosanac wrote: I just proposed a few talks on ActiveMQ under Camel in Action track. If those are accepted, I think it'd be better to have a separate Messaging track for these and other potentially related talks. We can broaden tracks out if there's interest - tracks at the moment are based on the submissions received from projects, and not all projects responded... If you think it'd be a good thing for the community to broaden it, and if the person down to be track chair for the track does to, we can make the change. Check with them, check with the communities, and let us know if the consensus is to do that! (Whether you can have a separate track depends on the submissions received. The tracks so far are provisional, and will only go ahead if they get enough good talks proposed. If you have a great, late idea for a track, and it gets enough submissions, we can accept it, but it may have to be at the expense of another track that didn't get many good submissions to it...) Nick -- Thanks - Mohammad Nour Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving - Albert Einstein -- Steve Holden st...@holdenweb.com, Holden Web, LLC http://holdenweb.com/ Python classes (and much more) through the web http://oreillyschool.com/ Conferences and technical event management at http://theopenbastion.com/ Next: DjangoCon US Sep 6-8, Washington DC http://djangocon.us/ -- Thanks - Mohammad Nour Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving - Albert Einstein
Re: Apache Flex
Hi, But I don't think it would be Fair for Flex to be there, I believe it should be in [1]. Justin what do you think ? It doesn't really fit into Apache Daily track as it is not a tool but a client side programming framework. Flex is more a enterprise product so there's some fit and while it's written Java and does have some following in the Java community. Most talks about Flex would not mention Java at all and as a client side framework I'm not sure it fits into the JavaEE track but it doesn't seem to fit in any of the other tracks. Thanks, Justin
