Re: [arch-dev-public] Dropping KDE4 libs

2018-08-17 Thread Bruno Pagani via arch-dev-public
Le 17/08/2018 à 20:53, Antonio Rojas via arch-dev-public a écrit :

>  I think it's time to drop the KDE4 libraries. They were EOL months ago and 
> most stuff that isn't yet ported to KF5 is dead upstream. This would allow 
> dropping a number of qt4 libraries and reduce the qt4 reverse dependencies 
> (qt4 has been EOL for 3 years now). Affected packages are:
>  - recorditnow (there are many alternatives available)
>  - ligthdm-kde-greeter (dead upstream, no signs of KF5 porting)
>  - krecipes (dead upstream, no signs of KF5 porting)
>  - kdiff3 (has been ported to KF5 for a while, just needs a release. Could be 
> updated to a snapshot)
>  - pidgin-kwallet (uses kwallet dbus API, so should work with the KF5 version 
> without any modification)
>  - libreoffice-still (would lose the KDE4 VCL, which is quite buggy anyway. 
> LO-fresh has a new VCL that uses KF5 file dialog)
>  - amarok: it has a WIP KF5 port, but it's not quite ready and development is 
> stalled. IMO we should let it rest in peace - I can keep a KF5 snapshot in 
> kde-unstable for a while but it doesn't look like it's going anywhere any 
> time soon at the current development pace. There are a few alternatives in 
> the repos.
>
>  Comments?

Well, I think all of those can go away. Amarok has seen so few activity
over the past years that I would also consider it dead. Plus it’s quite
an huge app, so porting is a lot of work, which will never happen at the
current pace for sure. And KDE has been developing a new music player to
replace it as the default KDE experience music player. ;)

Bruno




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Re: [arch-dev-public] Dropping pyqt4/pyside1

2018-08-17 Thread Bruno Pagani via arch-dev-public
Le 17/08/2018 à 20:39, Antonio Rojas via arch-dev-public a écrit :

> Hi all,
>  The latest pyqt4 release makes packaging more complex due to upstream's 
> decision of requiring a private namespaced sip (for mysterious reasons). It 
> is also the last release, so pyqt4 is now officially EOL. I would like to 
> drop it from our repos. It's mostly used as an optional dependency of python 
> packages that also support a pyqt5 backend, so it shouldn't cause much 
> trouble. Other packages that require it (gnuradio, hgview) have alternative 
> UIs (wxwidgets and ncurses respectively). And in any case, pyqt4 is not a 
> build-time dependency, so the pyqt4 UI would still work by installing pyqt4 
> from AUR. Besides these, the only package that still needs it is ninja-ide. 
> It is ported to PyQt5 in git, so it could be updated to a snapshot.
>  I'd also like to drop pyside1, for the same reasons (unused/EOL). This would 
> reduce the number of reverse qt4 dependencies, and bring us closer to 
> dropping it. Any comments or objections?

Please go ahead! I’ve personally removed qt4 from my system 1 year and a
half ago, I’d be glad to see it go away from our repos. ;)

Bruno




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[arch-dev-public] Dropping KDE4 libs

2018-08-17 Thread Antonio Rojas via arch-dev-public
 I think it's time to drop the KDE4 libraries. They were EOL months ago and 
most stuff that isn't yet ported to KF5 is dead upstream. This would allow 
dropping a number of qt4 libraries and reduce the qt4 reverse dependencies (qt4 
has been EOL for 3 years now). Affected packages are:
 - recorditnow (there are many alternatives available)
 - ligthdm-kde-greeter (dead upstream, no signs of KF5 porting)
 - krecipes (dead upstream, no signs of KF5 porting)
 - kdiff3 (has been ported to KF5 for a while, just needs a release. Could be 
updated to a snapshot)
 - pidgin-kwallet (uses kwallet dbus API, so should work with the KF5 version 
without any modification)
 - libreoffice-still (would lose the KDE4 VCL, which is quite buggy anyway. 
LO-fresh has a new VCL that uses KF5 file dialog)
 - amarok: it has a WIP KF5 port, but it's not quite ready and development is 
stalled. IMO we should let it rest in peace - I can keep a KF5 snapshot in 
kde-unstable for a while but it doesn't look like it's going anywhere any time 
soon at the current development pace. There are a few alternatives in the repos.

 Comments?

 


[arch-dev-public] Dropping pyqt4/pyside1

2018-08-17 Thread Antonio Rojas via arch-dev-public
Hi all,
 The latest pyqt4 release makes packaging more complex due to upstream's 
decision of requiring a private namespaced sip (for mysterious reasons). It is 
also the last release, so pyqt4 is now officially EOL. I would like to drop it 
from our repos. It's mostly used as an optional dependency of python packages 
that also support a pyqt5 backend, so it shouldn't cause much trouble. Other 
packages that require it (gnuradio, hgview) have alternative UIs (wxwidgets and 
ncurses respectively). And in any case, pyqt4 is not a build-time dependency, 
so the pyqt4 UI would still work by installing pyqt4 from AUR. Besides these, 
the only package that still needs it is ninja-ide. It is ported to PyQt5 in 
git, so it could be updated to a snapshot.
 I'd also like to drop pyside1, for the same reasons (unused/EOL). This would 
reduce the number of reverse qt4 dependencies, and bring us closer to dropping 
it. Any comments or objections?