Re: [arch-general] [signoff] kernel26 2.6.35.2-1

2010-08-21 Thread Madhurya Kakati
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 3:16 AM, Tobias Powalowski t.p...@gmx.de wrote:
 Latest kernel is in testing,
 please signoff for both arches.

 greetings
 tpowa
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 tp...@archlinux.org



noob question: what does this signoff means?


Re: [arch-general] [signoff] kernel26 2.6.35.2-1

2010-08-21 Thread Lukáš Jirkovský

 noob question: what does this signoff means?


Basically it means that it works OK for you and you are willing to
sign off the declaration the package is OK and can be moved to
[core]. Usually it's not used for packages from [extra] or
[community].


Re: [arch-general] Referencing $srcdir in PKGBUILD?

2010-08-21 Thread Ray Rashif
On 19 August 2010 22:53, Heiko Baums li...@baums-on-web.de wrote:
 Am Tue, 17 Aug 2010 19:52:11 +0800
 schrieb Ray Rashif schivmeis...@gmail.com:

 Just run this from the makepkg build dir:

 grep -R $(pwd)/src pkg/

 I've done this with my package kernel26-fbcondecor, which is kernel26
 with just one additional patch and with slightly modified config files,
 and it gave me a lot of matches in modules and several scripts, which
 are not related to the fbcondecor patch and the modifications.

 So is there a bug in kernel26? Or can this be ignored?

Can be safely ignored.

Some (or most) builds record the build-time directories for
informational/referential purposes. A user brought up this one in an
AUR comment:

$ strings /lib/modules/2.6.35-ARCH/kernel/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/mperf.ko
/home/tobias/Arch/svn/svn-packages/kernel26/trunk/src/linux-2.6.35/arch/x86/include/asm/processor.h

If it's not a binary, you can edit it to remove that information (if
you happen to see it during runtime; otherwise leave it alone). Other
cases where this is actually significantly annoying is when a warning
about the directory not being found is output to stderr unnecessarily.
That is when we should really file an upstream report.


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Re: [arch-general] [signoff] kernel26 2.6.35.2-1

2010-08-21 Thread Lauri Niskanen

On 08/21/2010 01:33 PM, Lukáš Jirkovský wrote:


noob question: what does this signoff means?



Basically it means that it works OK for you and you are willing to
sign off the declaration the package is OK and can be moved to
[core]. Usually it's not used for packages from [extra] or
[community].


Generally packages only need signoffs from developers on arch-dev 
mailing list. Sometimes (like with kernel26) public signoffs are wanted.


--
Ape Lauri Niskanen


Re: [arch-general] 2.6.35-ARCH panic in VirtualBox 3.2.8-1

2010-08-21 Thread Martín Cigorraga
Hi Thomas,

In fact I agree with you. If we start adding one 'feature' after another we
will end with a *buntu system in the near future.
List, please forgot my mail, thanks.


Re: [arch-general] [signoff] kernel26 2.6.35.2-1

2010-08-21 Thread Madhurya Kakati
On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Lauri Niskanen a...@ape3000.com wrote:
 On 08/21/2010 01:33 PM, Lukáš Jirkovský wrote:

 noob question: what does this signoff means?


 Basically it means that it works OK for you and you are willing to
 sign off the declaration the package is OK and can be moved to
 [core]. Usually it's not used for packages from [extra] or
 [community].

 Generally packages only need signoffs from developers on arch-dev mailing
 list. Sometimes (like with kernel26) public signoffs are wanted.

 --
 Ape Lauri Niskanen


Thanks! :D


Re: [arch-general] 2.6.35-ARCH panic in VirtualBox 3.2.8-1

2010-08-21 Thread Madhurya Kakati
On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 6:24 PM, Martín Cigorraga
martosurf7...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Thomas,

 In fact I agree with you. If we start adding one 'feature' after another we
 will end with a *buntu system in the near future.
 List, please forgot my mail, thanks.


Whats wrong with adding features?


Re: [arch-general] [signoff] kernel26 2.6.35.2-1

2010-08-21 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Sat, 2010-08-21 at 18:51 +0530, Madhurya Kakati wrote:
 On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Lauri Niskanen a...@ape3000.com wrote:
  On 08/21/2010 01:33 PM, Lukáš Jirkovský wrote:
 
  noob question: what does this signoff means?
 
 
  Basically it means that it works OK for you and you are willing to
  sign off the declaration the package is OK and can be moved to
  [core]. Usually it's not used for packages from [extra] or
  [community].
 
  Generally packages only need signoffs from developers on arch-dev mailing
  list. Sometimes (like with kernel26) public signoffs are wanted.
 
  --
  Ape Lauri Niskanen
 
 
 Thanks! :D

I wasn't actually aware that public signoffs are wanted for kernel26. As
far as I can remember some packages specifically request user signoffs
due to lack of usage among devs (and those eventually get dropped from
core in my observation). Any simple list as to which packages users
should help signoff?



Re: [arch-general] [signoff] kernel26 2.6.35.2-1

2010-08-21 Thread Lauri Niskanen

On 08/21/2010 06:17 PM, Ng Oon-Ee wrote:

On Sat, 2010-08-21 at 18:51 +0530, Madhurya Kakati wrote:

On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Lauri Niskanena...@ape3000.com  wrote:

On 08/21/2010 01:33 PM, Lukáš Jirkovský wrote:


noob question: what does this signoff means?



Basically it means that it works OK for you and you are willing to
sign off the declaration the package is OK and can be moved to
[core]. Usually it's not used for packages from [extra] or
[community].


Generally packages only need signoffs from developers on arch-dev mailing
list. Sometimes (like with kernel26) public signoffs are wanted.

--
ApeLauri Niskanen



Thanks! :D


I wasn't actually aware that public signoffs are wanted for kernel26. As
far as I can remember some packages specifically request user signoffs
due to lack of usage among devs (and those eventually get dropped from
core in my observation). Any simple list as to which packages users
should help signoff?



Users should signoff only when requested on this mailing list.

--
Ape Lauri Niskanen


Re: [arch-general] 2.6.35-ARCH panic in VirtualBox 3.2.8-1

2010-08-21 Thread Martín Cigorraga
@Madhurya: actually I was ironic about that - please note I didn't wanted to
talk bad about *buntu-land, I myself get started in GNU/Linux thanks to
Ubuntu.
Of course adding features isn't wrong, but I used that word to name an
automatic process that goes straight against Arch's spirit if implemented at
a core level, and only realized that after reading Thomas reply - see this
link please [0].
There's a direct relationship between automation and simplicity: you can't
get both at the same time all the time. While an automatic system don't have
to be complicated per-se, it *will* take away your freedom and control over
the processes it executes again going against Arch's way. One ot the things
I like most of this distro is the plenty space it gives the user to do
virtually anything while remaining ultra poweful and easy enough to use
without stumbling with too much low level tasks in your daily use.

Personally I *allways* backup before any important/huge update/upgrade.
Anthony's proposed solution is cool, but until that finally arrives I think
that creating a simple script and putting it in the path will be enough to
backup kernels (also you'll need to add manually the menu entry to whatever
boot manager you use).

Regards,
-Martín

[0] http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/The_Arch_Way


Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] make-3.82-1

2010-08-21 Thread Florian Pritz
On 15.08.2010 00:20, Tobias Powalowski wrote:
 Am Sonntag 15 August 2010 schrieb Allan McRae:
 On 15/08/10 04:37, Tobias Powalowski wrote:
  Am Donnerstag 12 August 2010 schrieb Allan McRae:
  Upstream release announcement:
  http://groups.google.com/group/gnu.announce/browse_thread/thread/d6a3f56
  91a b08a0a#
  
  kernel breaks with this make version.
  Don't think we should move it.
 
 Any chance of slightly more details than breaks?
 
 Allan
 Stops while trying to copy firmware, cannot create $pkgdir/lib/firmware/./

I haven't tested that much, but on my box the MAKEFLAGS are sort of
ignored. Though it's a bit complicated:

in the PKGBUILD:
MAKEFLAGS=-j12 make bzImage modules - 1 thread
make -j12 bzImage modules - 12 threads

on the shell:
both - 12 threads

Downgrading to 3.81-5 fixes the 1 thread problem. Maybe this has to do
something with the env?

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[arch-general] K3b

2010-08-21 Thread Baho Utot

 I am having some issues with K3b
Under KDE4 ( yes I hate it)

When I start K3b it detects a blank dvd in the dvd writer but when 
selecting the burn image tool from the menu it does not reconize the 
blank dvd.


I looked into the frums and the wiki but didn't find anything that was 
helpful





Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] make-3.82-1

2010-08-21 Thread Allan McRae

On 22/08/10 06:11, Florian Pritz wrote:

On 15.08.2010 00:20, Tobias Powalowski wrote:

Am Sonntag 15 August 2010 schrieb Allan McRae:

On 15/08/10 04:37, Tobias Powalowski wrote:

Am Donnerstag 12 August 2010 schrieb Allan McRae:

Upstream release announcement:
http://groups.google.com/group/gnu.announce/browse_thread/thread/d6a3f56
91a b08a0a#


kernel breaks with this make version.
Don't think we should move it.


Any chance of slightly more details than breaks?

Allan

Stops while trying to copy firmware, cannot create $pkgdir/lib/firmware/./


I haven't tested that much, but on my box the MAKEFLAGS are sort of
ignored. Though it's a bit complicated:

in the PKGBUILD:
MAKEFLAGS=-j12 make bzImage modules -  1 thread
make -j12 bzImage modules -  12 threads

on the shell:
both -  12 threads

Downgrading to 3.81-5 fixes the 1 thread problem. Maybe this has to do
something with the env?



I do not see this...  My environmental makeflags are definitely being 
applied.


Allan





[arch-general] Configuring System Clock event FAIL at start-up

2010-08-21 Thread Martín Cigorraga
This a strange one:

I left my system running for about 8 hours today (had a brainstorm session
for upcoming Software Freedom Day) and when I came back I noticed some weird
behaviour with the mouse pointer, so I decided reboot. Now I have a red FAIL
notice when Configuring System Clock. I already check BIOS and there seems
to no problem there, ¿what can be happen?
(already tried serching the forum but haven't found any related issue)

Greetings.
-Martín


Re: [arch-general] rankmirrors and new mirrrorlist format

2010-08-21 Thread Jude DaShiell
The only reason I bought this up at all was because on more than one Linux 
distro site there's requests for people to use mirrors that are 
geographically close to them since the admins of those sites apparently 
check logs and kick off people that are very far away from the download 
sites.  I agree with you in these days of broad band connections and 
ethernet cards such things maybe ought not to matter all that much but 
apparently they do to other webmasters and ftpadmins. On Sat, 14 Aug 2010, 
C Anthony Risinger wrote:



On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 8:27 PM, Jude DaShiell jdash...@shellworld.net wrote:

One of the more important fields missing from many Linux distros mirror
lists is the geographical location field that would provide a country and a
state/province for each mirror.  That information is stored in some data
base on the internet, but not everybody who looks at a mirror list for the
first time is necessarily going to know which tool to send the list through
to get all those geographical locations appended to that mirror list.  A
guess on my part would be the whois data base but what command to run to get
the capacity the url, and the geographic locations out in a mirror list and
only get that information I don't yet know.


i think the geographic info would be somewhat superfluous; while i
don't know of a command offhand to provide this information, the IP
address of mirrors can be geolocated.  additionally, geographic
location has little to do with your network location... when i lived
in montana (USA), every single packet i sent was routed through salt
lake city, utah, several hundred miles away, before going anywhere
else.

if anything, rankmirrors itself could provide this information; but it
wouldn't be that useful in deciding on a mirror.  just get the top 6
or so, pick one that works well, and forget about it :-)

kernel.org works fine for me.

C Anthony