Re: [Arm-netbook] What's new at the end of 2023?
On Wed, Nov 8, 2023 at 3:12 AM Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > if someone, even one person, gets them a test image, 100 people > can get their cards. Have we distilled the requirements for a test image down into a document anywhere? Namely, lists of what is required and what would be good or nice to have under explicit headings? If not I'll be happy to start a wiki page. Looks like we need a build of uboot and the kernel + test software to exercise the interfaces we want to test. Possibly with automated gathering and interpreting of results to speed the logging and repair of problems. Sincerely, Richard ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk Configuration, options, subscribe and unsubscribe at: http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to: arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] What's new at the end of 2023?
On Thursday, November 9, 2023, Richard Wilbur wrote: > On Wed, Nov 8, 2023 at 3:12 AM Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton > wrote: >> if someone, even one person, gets them a test image, 100 people >> can get their cards. > > Have we distilled the requirements for a test image down into a > document anywhere? booting to linux kernel on UART console is enough. VGA 800x600 assuming a micro-desktop board is icing on the cake. > Namely, lists of what is required and what would be good or nice to > have under explicit headings? > > If not I'll be happy to start a wiki page. Looks like we need a build > of uboot and the kernel + test software to exercise the interfaces we > want to test. Possibly with automated gathering and interpreting of > results to speed the logging and repair of problems. this would be fantastic. note that even having u-boot show console output is significant as it does basic initialisation of PLL and DDR3. if you get that far you know the following are good: * power * uart * PLL * CPU * DDR3 * Micro-SD which is a heck of a lot. l. -- --- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk Configuration, options, subscribe and unsubscribe at: http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to: arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] What's new at the end of 2023?
On Wednesday, November 8, 2023, Peter Carlson wrote: > Franck it would appear we two are the only ones monitoring this anymore. no, i am still here but i am *not* going to spend my time or energy, it is down to *you* all. > The news appeared encouraging at last communication but silence since. > So what are we to make of this? simply that nobody is taking responsibility. when i have the time and energy i will get back to it. if anyone wants to actually get paid to work on this, *you* can write and submit up to a EUR 50,000 NLnet Grant request. yes they are specifically looking for hardware projects. l. -- --- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk Configuration, options, subscribe and unsubscribe at: http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to: arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] What's new at the end of 2023?
Franck it would appear we two are the only ones monitoring this anymore. The news appeared encouraging at last communication but silence since. So what are we to make of this? Thanks Peter Carlson On Tue, Nov 7, 2023 at 2:43 PM Franck Sinimalé wrote: > Hello everyone, > > The last news I read on this mailing list was saying that the next step > for EOMA68 Computing Devices project was to boot an image. > > Since I'm not at this level of technique (very high for me), how could I > help? > > Sometimes, relaunching the discussion is enough to get news and take a > step ;-) > > Best, > Franck > > > ___ > arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk > Configuration, options, subscribe and unsubscribe at: > http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook > Send large attachments to: arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk Configuration, options, subscribe and unsubscribe at: http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to: arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] What's new at the end of 2023?
Le 08/11/2023 à 11:12, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton a écrit : if someone, even one person, gets them a test image, 100 people can get their cards. Hi, thanks for the news. For those who are tech able AND have time+energy to make and test an boot image, usefull infos can be found here : https://rhombus-tech.net/recentchanges/ and here : https://lists.phcomp.co.uk/pipermail/arm-netbook/2023-January/016542.html Here is an non tech able idea : may be someone here know someone or a community where someone could be happy to work on this test image challenge ? So, exept you think it is a bad idea, I will talk about this challenge in the communities I am talking with. Franck ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk Configuration, options, subscribe and unsubscribe at: http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to: arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] What's new at the end of 2023?
Well my curt Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton the only two people to have contributed any communication in months are both decidedly neither software nor hardware proficient. We appear to be the enthusiast "peanut gallery" Those who could help are not doing so for their own reasons. Where do we go from here? Is it time to close the book on this one? Thanks Peter Carlson On Wed, Nov 8, 2023 at 9:57 AM Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > On Wednesday, November 8, 2023, Peter Carlson > wrote: > > Franck it would appear we two are the only ones monitoring this anymore. > > no, i am still here but i am *not* going to spend my time > or energy, it is down to *you* all. > > > The news appeared encouraging at last communication but silence since. > > So what are we to make of this? > > simply that nobody is taking responsibility. > > when i have the time and energy i will get back to it. > > if anyone wants to actually get paid to work on this, > *you* can write and submit up to a EUR 50,000 NLnet > Grant request. yes they are specifically looking > for hardware projects. > > l. > > > -- > --- > crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 > ___ > arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk > Configuration, options, subscribe and unsubscribe at: > http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook > Send large attachments to: arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk Configuration, options, subscribe and unsubscribe at: http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to: arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] What's new at the end of 2023?
On Wednesday, November 8, 2023, Peter Carlson wrote: > Well my curt Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton welcome to Asperger's... and to reminding and repeating the exact same thing for *four years* and not having anyone really take any **g notice except for a very few people. (grateful: parabolath, and others) > the only two people to have > contributed any communication in months are both decidedly neither software > nor hardware proficient. > We appear to be the enthusiast "peanut gallery" Those who could help are > not doing so for their own reasons. Where do we go from here? Is it time to > close the book on this one? a specification is never "closed". 100 of the Cards are now at Crowdsupply. if someone, even one person, gets them a test image, 100 people can get their cards. if not one single person helps develop a test image *nobody* gets s***. very very simple and i am getting quite fed up telling people this. l. -- --- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk Configuration, options, subscribe and unsubscribe at: http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to: arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] What's new at the end of 2023?
Thanks Franck for your commitment to this. Thanks Peter Carlson On Wed, Nov 8, 2023 at 10:50 AM Franck Sinimalé wrote: > Le 08/11/2023 à 11:12, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton a écrit : > > if someone, even one person, gets them a test image, 100 people > > can get their cards. > > Hi, thanks for the news. > > For those who are tech able AND have time+energy to make and test an > boot image, usefull infos can be found here : > > https://rhombus-tech.net/recentchanges/ > > and here : > > https://lists.phcomp.co.uk/pipermail/arm-netbook/2023-January/016542.html > > Here is an non tech able idea : may be someone here know someone or a > community where someone could be happy to work on this test image > challenge ? > > So, exept you think it is a bad idea, I will talk about this challenge > in the communities I am talking with. > > Franck > > > ___ > arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk > Configuration, options, subscribe and unsubscribe at: > http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook > Send large attachments to: arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk Configuration, options, subscribe and unsubscribe at: http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to: arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
Re: [Arm-netbook] What's new at the end of 2023?
Thank you for the explanation and update. I am familiar with Asperger's, but also think it is important to remind "bearers of that burden" how they come across if for no other reason than for them to understand why they might get the kind of response they sometimes get. I was unaware that there are, in fact, cards at Crowd Supply. I do monitor my account at Crowd Supply and this has not been communicated to me. If one needs to request a card from Crowd Supply for testing purposes then perhaps this could be communicated to the people who could help. I am not in a position to help in any significant way. Although I could try and get an image onto a card I am not technically proficient enough to really accomplish much. The other hindrance to that end is I am in Africa on a volunteer mandate so I don't have access to my most basic electronics workbench. My hope is that this communication may enlighten someone of the technical "illuminati" that cards are available for testing. Thanks Peter Carlson On Wed, Nov 8, 2023 at 10:12 AM Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > On Wednesday, November 8, 2023, Peter Carlson > wrote: > > Well my curt Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton > > welcome to Asperger's... and to reminding and repeating the > exact same thing for *four years* and not having anyone > really take any **g notice except for a very few > people. (grateful: parabolath, and others) > > > the only two people to have > > contributed any communication in months are both decidedly neither > software > > nor hardware proficient. > > We appear to be the enthusiast "peanut gallery" Those who could help are > > not doing so for their own reasons. Where do we go from here? Is it time > to > > close the book on this one? > > a specification is never "closed". > > 100 of the Cards are now at Crowdsupply. > > if someone, even one person, gets them a test image, 100 people > can get their cards. > > if not one single person helps develop a test image *nobody* > gets s***. > > very very simple and i am getting quite fed up telling people > this. > > l. > > > -- > --- > crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68 > ___ > arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk > Configuration, options, subscribe and unsubscribe at: > http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook > Send large attachments to: arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk ___ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk Configuration, options, subscribe and unsubscribe at: http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to: arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
