Re: [Arm-netbook] First laptop dock for Intel's card announced

[Peter Carlson]

yea that would work too.

On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 12:51 PM Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton 
wrote:

> ---
> crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 7:23 PM, Allan Mwenda 
> wrote:
> > You should patent all the things before Intel just i n case they REALLY
> > decide they thought of this first
>
>  or... i should publish all of them via the mailing list, wiki, irc
> channel with its independently publicly-recorded logs (in two separate
> locations), as well as maintain a git repository which records the
> chronological order (to the second) of all changes made to the
> website, which will be corroborated by archive.org (an independent
> organisation), and maintain a standard on an independent website
> (elinux.org) over which i have no direct control in its
> administration, thus confirming in at least a dozen different ways,
> witnessed by several hundred other people, that there exists prior
> art, through which i can simply tell anyone trying to claim that they
> own any patents related to *any* of the EOMA68 modular designs, that
> they can go fuck themselves.  how about that? ;)
>
> l.
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Re: [Arm-netbook] EOMA68 In A Intel Card World?

[Peter Carlson]

Great effort into putting this together.
I like the logo my only comment is that vertical reading really turns some
people off. Don't know what it would look like horizontal but worth a look,

On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 1:37 PM Parobalth  wrote:

> > On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 6:42 PM, Parobalth  wrote:
> >
> > > I can write down some of my ideas which currently live relatively
> > > unstructured in my head if it is seen as a good idea by Luke and the
> > > community.
> >
> >On Mon, Jan 09, 2017 at 12:36:14PM +, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
> >wrote:
> >  go for it, it's always helpful.
>
> To promote EOMA68-A20 and the housings I think we need shiny Images,
> Graphics, Comics, Videos to get the message across. I try to focus on
> the soon available products. I agree with Allan and Alain that a logo is
> needed. For the .gif under A) I created a placeholder logo that you can
> view here: https://www.parobalth.org/EOMA68.png Maybe we can build on
> the idea of the green circuit board (earth) and the blue circle (ocean)
> which symbolize our planet.
>
> A) Explain the concept:
> Have a look at this small .gif
> (https://www.parobalth.org/EOMA68-A20.gif) where I used images from the
> crowd supply campaign to illustrate the idea. Be warned that I just
> quickly hacked it together.
> I propose to refine the message (better content and flawless execution)
> and to do similar ones for upgrades, use cases...
>
> B) Problem and Lukes Story:
> Status Quo: In the digital age we are used to throw away computers
> because of multiple reasons: forced-upgrades, upgrades, unrepairable
> (costs / no spareparts), shiny-new-syndrom.
> Solution: One man had the vision to create eco-conscious,
> freedom-respecting, money-saving, modular hardware. Luke Kenneth Casson
> Leighton the developer and guardian of the EOMA68 standard has been
> working fiercly for the past years to make his vision come true.
> Currently he is on site in China and Taiwang to fulfill the successful
> crowdfunding campaign. EOMA68 becomes a reality in Spring 2017 with the
> EOMA68-A20 computer card, the micro desktop and a 15" Laptop Housing.
> Preorder now!
>
> C) Examples of User Groups:
> I separated 4 main user groups to emphasize the message. They certainly
> don't exist as separate entities in reality. In reality there are
> multiple overlapping reasons for EOMA68. For example concerning myself
> 1. and 3. are the main reasons I backed the project. Someone only
> looking for good enough computing with a low environmental footprint
> doesn't have to be "welcomed" and scared away by datasheets and
> technical mumbo jumbo.
>
> Every group has a "catchy" motto in parenthesis:
>
> 1. FLOSS/Libre/Security/Privacy (Compute like no one is watching):
> * RYF certification
> * Libre
> * lowest common denominator
> * truly libre strategy
> * Right to freedom of opinion and expression; access to the
> * Internet is a basic human right: "the same rights people have
> * offline must also be protected online."
> * mass surveillance, NSA
> * no backdoors
> * secure
> * made by someone who cares
> * mainline support
> * non modifiable readable BootROM
> * no NDAs
> * firmware and kernel sources GPL
>
> 2. Non-Technical (Solutions not problems):
> * Pop it in it will work
> * share housings/cards with family members
> * money-saving
> * pre-installed OS
> * works out of the box
>
> 3. Eco-Conscious (reduce, reuse, recycle):
> * low power consumption
> * off grid computing solution
> * modular
> * 3D-Print replacement parts
> * print locally (reduces shipping and saves
> * shipping costs for tiny plastic parts)
> * repairable
> * Factory conditions and production (@Luke can
>   you add some information)
> * good enough computing
> * minimalistc, reduce stuff, travel light ->
> * go for just a bare computer card
> * reduce, reuse, recycle
> * stop forced upgrades which force you to
> * throw away a working computer
>
> 4. Developer/Maker (Show me everything):
> * CAD-Files available
> * schematics
> * datasheets
> * no NDAs
> * firmware and kernel sources GPL
> * print your own parts
> * build your custom solution
>
> D) Personal Stories:
> It may be a good idea to collect some personal stories.
> For example I bought a Netbook 5 years ago and use it a lot. If I
> would use a non-free OS the netbook would already be obsolete (forced
> upgrade). Recently I noticed that I wish the netbook to be just a
> netbook housing and that I just could upgrade the computer card and
> double the RAM (the netbook only has 1GB).
>
> E) Catchy slogans:
> Be part of the revolution!
> No more forced-upgrades!
> Live the manufacturers nightmare!
> Break the throw-away cycle - start the age of modular good-enough
> computing!
>
> If you have critique, questions, suggestions, thoughts and comments
> please let me know. Collaboratin is very welcome.
>
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[Arm-netbook] Have you checked out this Open Source RISC-V-based 32-bit μC?

[Peter Carlson]

https://www.crowdsupply.com/onchip/open-micro
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Re: [Arm-netbook] Have you checked out this Open Source RISC-V-based 32-bit μC?

[Peter Carlson]

I am on their mailing list but I'll see if there is some pre-release info.

On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 8:46 AM Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <l...@lkcl.net>
wrote:

> very cool.  it would be nice to have some specs - rated speed,
> interfaces, virtual memory capabilities and so on.  finding out who's
> behind it would be a way to find out.
>
> l.
>
>
> On 11/3/16, Peter Carlson <petercarlso...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > https://www.crowdsupply.com/onchip/open-micro
> >
>
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Re: [Arm-netbook] Logos

[Peter Carlson]

For me it really only works in the list. As stand alone I think it would be
a WTF moment.

On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 1:55 PM John Luke Gibson 
wrote:

> I was wondering what people think of the Cloister Black letter E for
> the EOMA logo. I can imagine that some people might find it hard to
> read or understand. Legible enough any one would suppose?
>
> http://www.deathnotenews.com/uploads/1/7/3/9/17393465/5192168_orig.png
>
> In case anyone is worried about copyright claim, apparently the
> original authors found the font on gimp, which is absurd because it's
> not an in-built font so it must have been a system font that they just
> casually assumed was free since they found it in gimp >.>
>
> Regardless, I found the font as a free [as in beer] font on a font
> sale website with the name matching and each letter meticulously
> matching. Through there I found the author's website which is in
> German and has many other font downloads of various styles. Through
> google-translate I discovered that german text on the page said free
> for "private" use, whatever that means (maybe if someone knows
> German?) and they reiterated "you may use" multiple times in the
> comments. Unfortunately, they seem to have a lot of fonts on the
> website which they've been updating occasionally "Cloister Black"
> included. In fact the name no longer shows "Cloister Black" on their
> website and instead shows "Old English", but through the wayback
> machine I found an archived version that shows "Cloister Black". I'll
> post the link here when I get a chance, I saved it on my other
> computer.
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Re: [Arm-netbook] Certification Mark: My hat in the Ring

[Peter Carlson]

What about the non-christians

On Thu, Apr 20, 2017, 8:59 PM John Luke Gibson  wrote:

> Didn't notice that it didn't go through.
> Here's the attachment.
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Re: [Arm-netbook] SPI-based LCDs, 3D printing, RISC-V

[Peter Carlson]

Having just got into 3D printing myself I would suggest it is not yet a
plug and play experience yet. Although the printer I got was very
definitely a DIY project requiring assembly etc. the groups I am following
also suggests to me that quality is very definitely an acquired skill that
comes through experience. I had thought of volunteering my printers to
complete the process for this project but I am not certain that my printing
is up to the quality standards and as such I am not sure that I would want
the stress of trying to turning out a product that I may not be experienced
enough to do. I would think the only way to do a crowd source printing
would require getting sample prints from each participant for evaluation. A
process that would be quite time consuming I think. One mans' opinion.

On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 9:16 AM Adam Van Ymeren  wrote:

> On April 27, 2017 9:23:40 AM EDT, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <
> l...@lkcl.net> wrote:
> >On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Christian Kellermann
> > wrote:
> >
> >> As the current issue is time in producing them I would also scratch
> >> the printed parts order myself, maybe in exchange for a discount on
> >> future designs done by Luke and print them myself. People with access
> >> to a maker lab could consider doing the same...
> >>
> >> I am not capable to promise good quality printing for 3rd parties as
> >I
> >> have been starting getting into this for a rather short while now...
> >
> > well, a 200x200 basic reprap will do the job, with a 0.4mm nozzle and
> >a layer height of between 0.15 and 0.2mm is absolutely fine.  it's not
> >hugely difficult.  i've just ordered this ($140!!) 3D printer from a
> >taobao seller, it's arriving in a couple of days:
> >
> > https://world.taobao.com/item/526287577504.htm
>
> Here's a thought, if you're okay running a fleet of printers, what if we
> crowd funded a fleet of 3d printers, whereby people pay for printers, you
> do a bulk order of printers, use them to print the parts and then
> distribute the printers to backers.  Sort of like a promotional thing, you
> can receive one of the printers that was used to make your laptop.
>
> >
> >now, at $140 i am quite happy to get up to 10 of those (if the first
> >one checks out fine) - it looks *really* sturdy: 20x20 aluminium
> >box-section: my only concern about rigidity being that it uses
> >L-brackets which go *into* the frame rather than triangle-corners
> >which are bolted outside and lock the box-section absolutely solid.
> >but, we'll see what happens.
> >
> > also it looks like it has a clone of the E3Dv6 hot-end (which is
> >really good), it has trapezoidal z-axis lead screws with proper brass
> >nuts, borosilicate glass plate (to be confirmed).
> >
> > the one thing i have told the guy (and he's happy to give a RMB 70
> >discount): i do NOT want the f*-s***-for-brains RAMPS 1.4
> >controller.  if you're familiar with 3D printing for f***'s sake STAY
> >AWAY from ANYTHING that uses the brain-dead "Polulu" driver "modules".
> >RAMPS, RUMBA, Lerdge, Megatronics - just don't f*g well do it.
> >
> > the reason is really really simple: those QFN ICs are designed
> >SPECIFICALLY, as outlined CLEARLY IN THE DATASHEET, for the heat to be
> >dissipated THROUGH THE PCB.  there is a ceramic insulator on the TOP
> >OF THE CHIP which ACTIVELY PREVENTS HEAT DISSIPATING THROUGH THE TOP.
> >if you put a heat sink on top of the chip it does... nothing.
> >
> > now, when the first reprap was created, in order to save time and
> >development cost they bought some PROTOTYPING boards with the stepper
> >drivers pre-mounted, which came with SPECIFIC instructions "under no
> >circumstances use these in production".
> >
> > so what happens?
> >
> > well, they (a) burn out (b) overheat (c) stop working for a couple of
> >seconds at a time in the middle of a print...
> >
> > ... you get the general idea.
> >
> >so anyway i ordered a Melzi 2.0 from here:
> >
> >https://www.aliexpress.com/store/group/Melzi-board/1757194_500507171.html
> >
> >and it turns out that on the reprap wiki there's a mod to them which
> >allows for the connection of a BT UART.  it would have been handy if
> >those pins had been brought out on a header but hey, what's wrong with
> >a bit of soldering.
> >
> >if you don't want to do soldering then you can just put the Melzi 2.0
> >into "auto-load" mode, drop a file in a FAT32 filesystem on a MicroSD
> >card and power it up.
> >
> >i like the Melzi 2.  it's simple, relatively low-cost compared to some
> >of the other options, no-nonsense and straightforward.
> >
> >l.
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Re: [Arm-netbook] Totally derailed topic

[Peter Carlson]

That was fun

On Tue, May 9, 2017, 6:14 PM John Luke Gibson  wrote:

> On 5/9/17, Lyberta  wrote:
> > do...@mail.com:
> >> I think you're caught in the same trap, unable to realize your own
> >> potential for lack of a moral standard (it also suffers as a result of
> >> an Atheistic philosophy), and unable to accept a pointless existence.
> >
> > When I was 19, I was in a very bad situation. Everything I've ever
> > believed in was false. So I've spent the next 6 months looking for
> > truth. Thankfully, I have dropped out of college by this time so I had
> > time to investigate.
> >
> > And in one moment it dawned upon me. There is no truth. Everything is
> > relative. People invent their own truth and start believing in it. So if
> > I want to stay unshackled I must not believe in anything.
> >
> > The next thing was supposed to be suicide but I couldn't do it. I don't
> > know the future and I don't know what will happen when I die. In fact,
> > I'm trapped inside my own consciousness and by definition can't escape
> > it and see the truth. Remember Plato's allegory of the cave?
> >
> > Another thing that bugs me is, since I don't believe in anything, I also
> > don't believe in science. I can't predict what's gonna happen in the
> > next moment. Every once in a while I get in this state of mind where I
> > understand that I understand nothing.
> >
> >> In any and all cases I think you might enjoy a book that is eyeopening,
> >> insightful and uplifting, with respect to the world around you, as
> >> opposed to your more dreary, despairing, world view.
> >
> > I was forced to read books at school and this gave a huge hatred for
> > them. I remember I've tried to read a fiction book at psychiatric
> > hospital and after the 1st paragraph I was so enraged that I quickly put
> > it away. Though this mostly applies to fiction.
> >
> >
>
> The mountains of religious thought pumped into this thread has it
> visibly oozing (I mean no offense). Firstly, the speaker in that video
> linked @zap I'm familiar with and is very unreliable when their claims
> are checked or researched. Secondly, Nietzsche explores that so-called
> "trap". The thing is that religion presents the concept of morality
> which fills the space created by ennui and lack of obstacles to
> self-preservation. Noam Chomsky popularized abit the thought that the
> consistent trend in nature is more intelligent species tend to go
> extinct after a shorter period than obviously less intelligent ones
> (i.e. beetles), this is due to genetic drift and inbred weaknesses due
> to a lack of obstacles to their survival. Ethics is an artificial
> obstacle we present ourselves in order to keep us strong (Nietzsche
> referred to the model used by Christianity as Slave Morality,
> suggesting that the ethics therein enslave the subscriber to the whims
> and desires of the less fortunate, and thusly purporting the existence
> of less fortunate as ENDEMICALLY NECESSARY because without less
> fortunate people then there would be point to the ethics of
> christianity and therefore there would be no obstacle to occupy
> ourselves with and therefore genetic drift would set in and we would
> die as a species. In other words, Nietzsche considered christianity so
> obsessed with compassion, that in a world without suffering it would
> utterly and completely fall apart.).
>
> Nietzsche's life's work was dedicated to attempting to create a
> well-developed replacement to both religion and "Slave Morality".
>
> I don't know if I support Nietzsche's alternative of "Master Morality"
> (where the obstacle is to become the best human possible, the
> so-called "ubermensch"), but I do say that "trap" is hardly a "trap"
> rather it's just a human need for an obstacle or conflict, and by
> rejecting religion all one is doing is rejecting the type of conflict
> which that religion endorses.
> Thirdly,
> __
>
> .| ->   
> __
>
> On the subject of Relativity:
> __
>
> .| ->^
> __
>
> "The only rule is everything changes, even this rule." is the best
> misquoting of Heraclitus I've heard and has rather impacted my view of
> "Relativity". Ultimately building off of the concept that the meaning
> of life is just any arbitrary form of conflict, then sometimes
> constant values contribute to having an increased selection of types
> of conflict. Technology of modern day allows us to have simulated
> battles over the net, and, without a whole slew of discovered
> constants (such as ways of making the voltage across a wire consistent
> with what is intended to deliver a message), then that would not be
> possible. I believe the universe only stays as consistent as it needs
> to be for every life to have a potentially unique purpose given work
> to discover new constant attributes to apply to a new purpose to
> assume. I believe it is quite possible high-fantasy magic might have
> 

Re: [Arm-netbook] Totally derailed topic

[Peter Carlson]

That would be where I'm at.

On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 11:28 AM Christopher Havel 
wrote:

> ...I wouldn't even go that far. I would say that I have a very limited
> faith, insofar as I believe that living things have some sort of spirit or
> soul that gives them life. That's quite literally the extent of it. I
> certainly don't believe in some sort of supreme being or 'force' or
> anything like that. Mind you, I'm not closed to the idea, I just have no
> evidence that such a being/force/etc exists. Lacking that evidence forces
> the assumption that such a thing does not exist.
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Re: [Arm-netbook] Totally derailed topic

[Peter Carlson]

And so Tommy Locklear achieves what so many strive for, to be remembered,
to have mattered.
The ultimate compliment when ones dies "They were a good person, they will
be missed"

On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 10:11 AM Christopher Havel 
wrote:

> Pardon me for saying, but the thought that I don't have enough common sense
> in my own dang head to know right from wrong, I find that a little
> offensive.
>
> I learned honesty from a man named Tommy Locklear. You've never heard of
> him, but he was a wonderful and kind person, while he was around. You might
> be a little skeptical of my claim when you learn that Tommy was a local
> mechanic for most of his life -- mechanics not having much of a reputation
> for honesty in most places, or so I hear -- but I'll offer up a story as
> evidence that this fellow was perhaps the exception to prove the rule.
>
> When my grandmother passed, she left behind, amongst many other things, her
> 1991 Ford Escort LX. Silver on the outside and light grey with dark grey
> and black accents, it was basically the color of a silent film. Not having
> much alternative, it quickly became Mom's car, for many, many years (she
> eventually bought a gently used '98 Saturn in the early 2000s, which
> replaced the Escort.) This was the sort of car where the speedometer pegged
> at 85, but you never actually wanted to go that fast in it. At 65mph, the
> car vibrated concerningly. At 75, one tended to be of the persuasion that
> the doors were about to fall off. We never did peg the speedometer, so I
> can't tell you what that was like. Mom wasn't much of one for lead-foot
> anyways... although there were times when that car went a little faster
> than it perhaps should have, so that we'd get someplace on time after
> leaving home late.
>
> At some point in our lives, we moved from a little podunk town in North
> Carolina, to Chapel Hill (of UNC basketball fame) so that Mom could get
> some graduate school experience. It was during this time that our little
> Escort sedan sprung a rather nasty oil leak. Mom took it to some nearby
> garage and they read her like a book. Knowing she knew absolutely nothing
> about cars except how to drive them, they told her it would be thousands of
> dollars for a new head gasket. She decided -- luckily -- to get a second
> opinion from Tommy. Well... Tommy came and got the car and brought it back
> to our little podunk town (out of which he operated) and took it into the
> shop. We were along for the ride. He popped the hood, poked around a
> little, and put the car up on the lift before poking around a little more.
> Then he called Mom over. He pointed to a little plug in the bottom of the
> crankcase, and explained that the plug, which (although I'll never know for
> sure, I was too young at the time) was probably for draining the oil out of
> the sump, had a broken seal. He replaced the plug and its seal for the
> princely sum of fifteen dollars, and that was the end of the leak.
>
> Tommy's whole life was filled with stories like that. He was an excellent
> mechanic for decades. He eventually had to stop working on cars, though,
> when his diabetes caught up with him enough to have his left leg amputated
> at the knees -- see, despite running a thriving business and being perhaps
> the most honest mechanic in town (and the town knew it!) he never could
> quite afford to keep the medication going that would have kept his diabetes
> in check... he eventually died, a few years ago, of a heart attack. I will
> note that the man that took over Tommy's garage after the amputation,
> pretty well ran it into the ground because he was not nearly as wholesome a
> man as Tommy was. Kind of a shame.
>
> I guess the point here is, if we have good role models around us, we can
> learn from our fellow humans what we need to know. As for me, I'd rather
> live in the here and now than dwell on what might happen --but can't be
> known for sure-- in the hereafter. Besides... isn't there something a
> little bit sinister, in a "Hotel California" sort of a way, about
> essentially living in a dream where you can have anything you want as long
> as it's not waking up...? ;)
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Re: [Arm-netbook] Status update

[Peter Carlson]

Yes sadly this is the only Crowd Supply project I have contributed to that
has not delivered.
I had great hopes but alas I fear I am disappointed.
Thanks
Peter Carlson


On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 1:52 PM Paul Boddie  wrote:

> On Tuesday, 21 December 2021 09:27:21 CET Felix wrote:
> > As alway, hope you are doing well, but I can't avoid to ask :P Any follow
> > up?
>
> Coming up on a year after this last message and two years after the last
> Crowd
> Supply update, I wonder if there is any news at all. I also notice that
> ThinkPenguin no longer does business with anyone based in Europe
> supposedly
> due to GDPR legislation.
>
> Apparently, asking Crowd Supply about project status tends to elicit a
> response directing inquirers to the project creators. One is too busy and
> directs us to the other who is incommunicative. It all seems like a lost
> opportunity, really.
>
> Paul
>
>
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Re: [Arm-netbook] Status update

[Peter Carlson]

Well you are a little touchy on this and you read way more into my comment
than I actually said.
I shall endeavour to not let your sensitivity affect my state of mind.

How can I help? (if I can help)
Thanks
Peter Carlson


On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 3:46 PM Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton 
wrote:

> On Monday, November 21, 2022, Peter Carlson 
> wrote:
> > Yes sadly this is the only Crowd Supply project I have contributed to
> that
> > has not delivered.
>
> Peter, respectfully, this is not a productive or useful
> response (or attitude). this has always been a community
> project and it is therefore down to YOU to say, instead of
> "you are a moron for failing to deliver", instead to say
> "HOW CAN I HELP"
>
> question: would you like to help?
>
> when i receive a response "yes" (publicly, here, so that it
> is clear to everyone that i have not made any assumptions)
> i will then follow up with some SUGGESTIONs on ways that you
> can HELP, and you are then free and clear to DECIDE FOR YOURSELF
> if you wish to follow the suggested course of action.
>
> ultimately this project lives or dies based on action that
> *you* decide to take.
>
> assuming that i can and will do everything and then blaming
> me when nothing happens is worse than "not ok", it is deeply
> disrespectful and making me extremely angry given how much
> *i* have done. for you.
>
> if anyone else would like to similarly HELP then please respond
> to this message (publicly)
>
> l.
>
>
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Re: [Arm-netbook] Status update

[Peter Carlson]

I have sent the requested specific message to Thinkpenquin support request
page.

On Mon, Nov 21, 2022, 4:18 PM Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton 
wrote:

> On Monday, November 21, 2022, Peter Carlson 
> wrote:
> > Well you are a little touchy on this and you read way more into my
> comment
> > than I actually said.
>
> sorry. i am in some considerable distress. the complete lack of
> response from Chris to *multiple* people has been shocking
> and confusing to me.
>
> > I shall endeavour to not let your sensitivity affect my state of mind.
> >
> > How can I help? (if I can help)
>
> please reach out to Chris, we need to find out where those 93
> Cards are.  even if they have been stolen from him, we need to
> know.
>
> i cannot be the one to do that, because if he ignores 25 messages
> he will ignore 26.
>
> even Joshua cannot help because he has ignored Joshua's phone
> calls.
>
> the current plan is to slowly ramp up the pressure (in a
> RESPECTFUL but very direct way), culminating in requesting
> all 2,500 backers to contact him requesting a status on the
> location and whereabouts of those 93 Cards.
>
> the problem is that he has not even responded to requests
> for someone to pick them up, which leads me to suspect that
> he is hiding something, such as "they've been stolen".
>
> my message just now shows the last communication from Chris,
> confirming that he was engaged.  he carried out a test of
> ONE of the Cards (which was successful), but then some time
> around May 2021, just after i had transferred the donated
> 0.8 BTC to him (back when that was worth USD 40,000), he
> failed to respond from that point onwards to all and any
> communication.
>
> l.
>
>
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Re: [Arm-netbook] What's new at the end of 2023?

[Peter Carlson]

Franck it would appear we two are the only ones monitoring this anymore.
The news appeared encouraging at last communication but silence since.
So what are we to make of this?
Thanks
Peter Carlson


On Tue, Nov 7, 2023 at 2:43 PM Franck Sinimalé  wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> The last news I read on this mailing list was saying that the next step
> for EOMA68 Computing Devices project was to boot an image.
>
> Since I'm not at this level of technique (very high for me), how could I
> help?
>
> Sometimes, relaunching the discussion is enough to get news and take a
> step ;-)
>
> Best,
> Franck
>
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Re: [Arm-netbook] What's new at the end of 2023?

[Peter Carlson]

Well my curt Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton the only two people to have
contributed any communication in months are both decidedly neither software
nor hardware proficient.
We appear to be the enthusiast "peanut gallery" Those who could help are
not doing so for their own reasons. Where do we go from here? Is it time to
close the book on this one?
Thanks
Peter Carlson


On Wed, Nov 8, 2023 at 9:57 AM Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton 
wrote:

> On Wednesday, November 8, 2023, Peter Carlson 
> wrote:
> > Franck it would appear we two are the only ones monitoring this anymore.
>
> no, i am still here but i am *not* going to spend my time
> or energy, it is down to *you* all.
>
> > The news appeared encouraging at last communication but silence since.
> > So what are we to make of this?
>
> simply that nobody is taking responsibility.
>
> when i have the time and energy i will get back to it.
>
> if anyone wants to actually get paid to work on this,
> *you* can write and submit up to a EUR 50,000 NLnet
> Grant request.  yes they are specifically looking
> for hardware projects.
>
> l.
>
>
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Re: [Arm-netbook] What's new at the end of 2023?

[Peter Carlson]

Thanks Franck for your commitment to this.
Thanks
Peter Carlson


On Wed, Nov 8, 2023 at 10:50 AM Franck Sinimalé  wrote:

> Le 08/11/2023 à 11:12, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton a écrit :
> > if someone, even one person, gets them a test image, 100 people
> > can get their cards.
>
> Hi, thanks for the news.
>
> For those who are tech able AND have time+energy to make and test an
> boot image, usefull infos can be found here :
>
> https://rhombus-tech.net/recentchanges/
>
> and here :
>
> https://lists.phcomp.co.uk/pipermail/arm-netbook/2023-January/016542.html
>
> Here is an non tech able idea : may be someone here know someone or a
> community where someone could be happy to work on this test image
> challenge ?
>
> So, exept you think it is a bad idea, I will talk about this challenge
> in the communities I am talking with.
>
> Franck
>
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Re: [Arm-netbook] What's new at the end of 2023?

[Peter Carlson]

Thank you for the explanation and update.
I am familiar with Asperger's, but also think it is important to remind
"bearers of that burden" how they come across if for no other reason than
for them to understand why they might get the kind of response they
sometimes get.

I was unaware that there are, in fact, cards at Crowd Supply. I do monitor
my account at Crowd Supply and this has not been communicated to me. If one
needs to request a card from Crowd Supply for testing purposes then perhaps
this could be communicated to the people who could help.
I am not in a position to help in any significant way. Although I could try
and get an image onto a card I am not technically proficient enough to
really accomplish much. The other hindrance to that end is I am in Africa
on a volunteer mandate so I don't have access to my most basic electronics
workbench.

My hope is that this communication may enlighten someone of the technical
"illuminati" that cards are available for testing.
Thanks
Peter Carlson


On Wed, Nov 8, 2023 at 10:12 AM Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton 
wrote:

> On Wednesday, November 8, 2023, Peter Carlson 
> wrote:
> > Well my curt Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
>
> welcome to Asperger's... and to reminding and repeating the
> exact same thing for *four years* and not having anyone
> really take any **g notice except for a very few
> people. (grateful: parabolath, and others)
>
> > the only two people to have
> > contributed any communication in months are both decidedly neither
> software
> > nor hardware proficient.
> > We appear to be the enthusiast "peanut gallery" Those who could help are
> > not doing so for their own reasons. Where do we go from here? Is it time
> to
> > close the book on this one?
>
> a specification is never "closed".
>
> 100 of the Cards are now at Crowdsupply.
>
> if someone, even one person, gets them a test image, 100 people
> can get their cards.
>
> if not one single person helps develop a test image *nobody*
> gets s***.
>
> very very simple and i am getting quite fed up telling people
> this.
>
> l.
>
>
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