Re: Family Businesses and Licensing

2003-07-14 Thread AdmrlLocke

In a message dated 7/14/03 1:40:05 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

As a sidelight, I've noticed several father/daughter teams amoung
lawyers, and the hardware retailer 88 Lumber is run by a
father/daughter team (and it's not because the father doesn't have
sons; he does).

And speaking of famous father/daughter teams there are the Hefners.  :)

DBL



Re: Family Businesses and Licensing

2003-07-14 Thread AdmrlLocke

In a message dated 7/14/03 9:16:31 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 There are zero licensing requirements for farming.
 Eric

Are there no federal permits and grandfathering in agriculture?

Fred Foldvary

The federal government imposes a host of rules and regulations on farming, 
everything from wetlands regulations to grandfathered agricultural payment in 
kind programs.



fertility and government

2003-07-14 Thread Wei Dai
According to a recent article [1] in Harvard International Review, because
of differences in fertility, the population growth rate in dictatorships
is higher than that in democracies at every income level. It says an
average woman has one-half of a child more under dictatorship than under
democracy. As a result of this faster population growth, dictatorships
have greater GDP growth even though they have lower per capita GDP growth
compared to democracies.

This information leads me to ask a couple of questions:

1. Why is fertility higher in dictatorships? Do dictators like bigger
populations, and democrats like smaller populations? Does population
growth influence choice of government? Or is there a third factor that
affects both fertility and form of government?

2. Should economists try to maximize GDP, or per capita GDP? If the former 
should they be supporting dictatorships?

Another interesting piece of information in this article is that 
democratic regimes are more frequent in more developed countries, but it's 
not because those countries are more likely to become democracies. Rather 
it's because they are less likely to revert back to dictatorships. Among 
democracies that have collapsed, the one with the highest per capita 
income is Argentina in 1975 -- US$6055.

[1] A Flawed Blueprint. By: Przeworksi, Adam. Harvard International 
Review, Spring2003, Vol. 25 Issue 1, p42.



Re: fertility and government

2003-07-14 Thread fabio guillermo rojas

 1. Why is fertility higher in dictatorships? Do dictators like bigger
 populations, and democrats like smaller populations? Does population
 growth influence choice of government? Or is there a third factor that
 affects both fertility and form of government?

The question should be: what causes dictatorship and do these conditions
encourage high fertility? Well, we have a lot of data and research on both
questions. Financially stable nations with democratic institutions tend
not to succumb to dictatorships, while nations that explicitly reject 
capitalism tend to evolve into dictatorships. Ok - what causes high
fertility? Low wealth, low education and no access to birth control. 
The nations at risk for dictatorship probably are poor and do not have
good mass education. Fabio 




Re: fertility and government

2003-07-14 Thread AdmrlLocke

In a message dated 7/14/03 6:45:42 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

1. Why is fertility higher in dictatorships? Do dictators like bigger
populations, and democrats like smaller populations? Does population
growth influence choice of government? Or is there a third factor that
affects both fertility and form of government?

It may be that oppressed people turn to sex (and alcohol, etc.) more as a way 
of easing the pain of oppression.



Re: fertility and government

2003-07-14 Thread Marko Paunovic
I haven't read the article, so everything that follows is speculation.

I don't believe that historical evidence supports this claim. For example,
former communist countries did not have high rates of population growth. I
don't know the numbers for Fascist Countries, but I don't think that the
rates were too high.

I believe that more variation in population growth could be explained by
looking at dominant religion than by looking at the form of government. Of
course, there is some correlation between dominant religion and the form of
government, which may lead to the conclusion that form of government and
population growth are correlated.

- Original Message -
From: Wei Dai [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 17:49 PM
Subject: fertility and government


 According to a recent article [1] in Harvard International Review, because
 of differences in fertility, the population growth rate in dictatorships
 is higher than that in democracies at every income level. It says an
 average woman has one-half of a child more under dictatorship than under
 democracy. As a result of this faster population growth, dictatorships
 have greater GDP growth even though they have lower per capita GDP growth
 compared to democracies.

 This information leads me to ask a couple of questions:

 1. Why is fertility higher in dictatorships? Do dictators like bigger
 populations, and democrats like smaller populations? Does population
 growth influence choice of government? Or is there a third factor that
 affects both fertility and form of government?

 2. Should economists try to maximize GDP, or per capita GDP? If the former
 should they be supporting dictatorships?

 Another interesting piece of information in this article is that
 democratic regimes are more frequent in more developed countries, but it's
 not because those countries are more likely to become democracies. Rather
 it's because they are less likely to revert back to dictatorships. Among
 democracies that have collapsed, the one with the highest per capita
 income is Argentina in 1975 -- US$6055.

 [1] A Flawed Blueprint. By: Przeworksi, Adam. Harvard International
 Review, Spring2003, Vol. 25 Issue 1, p42.




Re: fertility and government

2003-07-14 Thread Sampo Syreeni
On 2003-07-14, Wei Dai uttered:

1. Why is fertility higher in dictatorships? Do dictators like bigger
populations, and democrats like smaller populations?

Maybe they're poorer in aggregate? I mean, sustenance-level poverty is one
of the prime causal precedents of high fertility, and most dictatorships
are poor ones, because of ineffective rule of law and wide-spread
corruption.

Sure, there are a few wealthy dictatorships (Saudi Arabia comes to mind),
but that's because of independent factors (which usually do not touch the
entire population).

Does population growth influence choice of government?

Under extreme poverty, likely not -- poverty would drive people to take
care of their own business, not politics. Under other conditions, probably
yes -- relative poverty and the greed thereoff is how we got the welfare
state. We would expect the per capita lack of income in young generations
induced by population growth to affect at least redistributive policy. For
example, I wouldn't be surprised if that was the precise description of
how politics in India works right now.

If the latter hypothesis pans out, we have to be real grateful that
industrialisation proceeded so rapidly in the West, unhindered by
full-grown democracy. Otherwise we never would have tunneled onto the
level of wealth which throttles population growth, without bumping into a
democratic political wall with the working class requiring income
transfers -- the latter slows growth, so we could well have become stuck
in between.

2. Should economists try to maximize GDP, or per capita GDP?

Neither, I think. Maximizing GDP would not be conducive to general
welfare. Maximizing per capita GDP today would also violate individual
choice, if we also take into account individuals' time preferences. I
would take full heed of the principle of revealed preference, and just let
people choose.

Another interesting piece of information in this article is that
democratic regimes are more frequent in more developed countries, but
it's not because those countries are more likely to become democracies.
Rather it's because they are less likely to revert back to dictatorships.
Among democracies that have collapsed, the one with the highest per
capita income is Argentina in 1975 -- US$6055.

I would side with Robert Kaplan
(http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/97dec/democ.htm) and conjecture that
democracy can only survive in a relatively homogeneous population,
constrained by the rule of law. Secondarily I would claim that democracy
can only survive where its transaction costs and the steadily increasing
dead weight it produces can be absorbed by economic growth. Such
conditions seem to sweep most of the unsuccessful democracies from the
picture.

They might sweep us under the rug as well. The conjecture might be false,
but at least it supplies some basis for the claim that growth is
necessary (which it of course isn't in any purely economic framework).
-- 
Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED], tel:+358-50-5756111
student/math+cs/helsinki university, http://www.iki.fi/~decoy/front
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Re: fertility and government

2003-07-14 Thread Wei Dai
A few people seem to have skipped over the first sentence of my post.  
The article said that fertility rate is higher in dictatorships than in
democracies at *all income levels*. Meaning if you take any income level
and compare dictatorships and democracies in the same level, the
dictatorships will tend to have a higher fertility rate.

I've placed a copy of the article at
http://www.ibiblio.org/weidai/przeworski.pdf. Unfortunately it does not
have a bibliography which makes it hard to determine how the numbers it
cites were calculated.