markets for your advertising time

2003-10-08 Thread dmitche4
Ian Ayres and Barry Nalebuff have an extremely interesting article in the Wall Street 
Journal editorial section today.


COMMENTARY


Want to Call Me? Pay Me!

IAN AYRES AND BARRY NALEBUFF

The national Do Not Call Registry is the most popular consumer-protection initiative 
in our nation's history -- because it makes clear that you own the right to be left 
alone.

But the current law is flawed on two counts. Households can block commercial 
telemarketers, but not annoying calls from the benevolent association of retired 
dogcatchers. This government discrimination in favor of charities is why a federal 
court struck down the regulations as unconstitutional.

More importantly, it misses a market opportunity. The classic role of government is to 
establish a system of property rights and then to get out of the way to let 
entitlement flow to highest valuers. But the Do Not Call registry needlessly prevents 
you from selling a scarce resource -- your time and attention. Telemarketers could 
call from a reverse 900 number. That way, you would get paid for taking the call. 
While they are trying to sell you a product, you can be selling them your time.

The FTC can solve the constitutionality issue and create a market by simply tweaking 
the current regulation.

First, the registry's coverage should be expanded to block calls from any telemarketer 
that makes more than 100 unsolicited calls a day. This would solve the constitutional 
difficulty, because the regulation would not turn on the content of the call but on 
the manner of calling.

Then, households that sign up for the Do Not Call registry should have the right to 
authorize their phone company to connect any calls that meet the household's price. 
Just think of it: You could charge different prices for different times of day or for 
different types of calls. You could even be given the option of hitting a button to 
waive the compensation -- because you felt that a particular charitable pitch was 
particularly worthy -- or let through any calls approved by Rush Limbaugh.

Just as Priceline turned the tables on airline pricing, this concept turns the tables 
on advertising. You tell your phone company your price for listening, and prospective 
callers can then decide whether it's worth their while. And instead of treating direct 
marketing as a pariah industry that needs to be caged or crippled, we reconceive it as 
an attractive business opportunity for everyone involved.

* Families get a system that gives them more control -- and an option to be paid for 
their time.

* Intermediaries suddenly have a new service to sell. Sign up with Verizon and choose 
your own price for receiving promo calls. Just as Verizon makes money by selling its 
900 service, it could charge telemarketers to connect calls for a kind of reverse 900 
service that compensates the household for listening.

* But would telemarketers ever be willing to pay for your time? Of course they would, 
that's what advertising is. A full page print ad in The Wall Street Journal, for 
instance, costs $180,000 or 10 cents a reader. Firms are willing to pay dearly for the 
chance to get their message to you. And telemarketers would pay here only for the 
targets they reach. If they don't think the person is listening, they can hang up and 
stop paying. (Consumers are equally free to quit the call and stop getting paid).


Telemarketers with a product that sells and a targeted list would be made better off 
with a truly free market in compensated calling. Compensation would make people more 
receptive. Also, regulations now block many forms of marketing. For instance, 
telemarketers are not allowed to call cell phones, send faxes or use pre-recorded 
calls (not that this law is universally obeyed). But under a system of compensated 
calling, it might make more sense to pay you to listen to a recording of James Earl 
Jones making a sales pitch than to pay a phone-bank caller minimum wage to try to 
speak to you.

The appropriate role for government is not to tell us what type of calls we can and 
cannot block. Instead, the do not call regulations should simply protect families' 
right to control whether their phone rings. The current regulation is an important 
step in this direction. But Congress should allow the market to do more of the work. 
All that the FTC (or Congress) needs to do is to allow registered households to 
authorize intermediaries to connect calls that meet their conditions. This can be done 
by adding 21 words to the current regulation: A 'specific seller' for purposes of 
(section) 310.4(b)(1)(iii) shall include intermediaries who are authorized to connect 
calls that meet pre-specified household prerequisites.

This simple change would strengthen consumers' privacy control and facilitate a true 
market for telemarketing. You should be able to block any unsolicited calls that don't 
meet your price and take the ones that do.

Messrs. Ayres and Nalebuff are professors at 

Re: Foreign aid - can money buy love?

2002-12-15 Thread dmitche4
I don't think money buys love.  We give a lot of money to Egypt, and it 
isn't clear that we get any love.  We also give a ton of money to 
Israel and it isn't really clear that they feel closer to us than they 
would otherwise.

m

- Original Message -
From: fabio guillermo rojas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Saturday, December 14, 2002 11:40 pm
Subject: Foreign aid - can money buy love?

 
 Somebody said foreign aid might be justified if it increased the 
 securityof the US through supporting a steadfast ally.  Has 
 anybody ever figured
 out foreign aid trade offs?
 
 For example, 
 
 What has the greatest effect on the annual number of American deaths
 due to political violence (wars, terrorism, civil wars)?
 
 - $1 million spent on the army/navy/etc.
 - $1 million given to the government of a foreign nation
 - $1 million spent on covert forces
 - $1 million spend on pro-American propaganda
 
 
 Another question: how much do you have to spend to get a 
 dependable US ally?
 
 How much do you have to spend per person before 50% of a 
 population is
 pro-US?
 
 What does the curve mapping per capita US foreign aid to % population
 pro-US look like?
 
 Does money buy love?
 
 Fabio 
 
 
 
 




Re: Emission Trading

2002-12-11 Thread dmitche4

Well, you might start with the symposium on SO2 trading in the Journal 
of Economic Perspectives in the Summer of 1998.  Clear well written 
articles.

Cropper and Oates have a pretty good survey article in the Journal of 
Economic Literature (1992).

Mitch



- Original Message -
From: Steffen Hentrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, February 17, 1997 4:17 pm
Subject: Emission Trading

 Dear Armchairs,
 
 does anybody know a comprehensive analysis of emisson trading 
 programms? I'm especially interested in effects of permits 
 distribution on competition.
 
 Greetings
 
 Steffen
 
 




Re: VA sales tax question

2002-10-21 Thread dmitche4
I didn't ask my question very clearly.  Sure, a sales tax shifts 
purchases.  They want to raise 2 billion in Northern Virginia.  That 
has to come from somewhere.  And there will be leakage -- some people 
will be more inclined to buy off the net or in DE which has no sales 
tax.

But, where will the money come from?  Will people buy less each week?  
Will randomly select items to strike from their purchases?  Or will 
they have difficulty at the end of the month.

Again, I'm sorry that my question wasn't clear.

mitch



- Original Message -
From: Fred Foldvary [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, October 21, 2002 9:34 pm
Subject: Re: VA sales tax question

 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  If you ask the average person, they argue that it won't change 
 what 
  they buy at all.
 
 A sales tax does shift purchases; some purchases will shift to out-
 of-state
 mail-order or nontaxed services.  (Virginia does have a use tax, 
 but few
 pay it, as I recall.)
 
 Fred Foldvary
 
 =
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 




Re: Unions and Bankruptcy

2002-10-11 Thread dmitche4

I would ask Chuck Baird at Cal State Hayward.  He'd be most likely to 
know.  You could also ask Jim Bennett at George Mason.  Bennett edits 
the Journal of Labor research.

mitch

- Original Message -
From: Bryan Caplan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Friday, October 11, 2002 11:45 am
Subject: Unions and Bankruptcy

 I didn't know the answer to this.  Does anyone else?
 -- 
Prof. Bryan Caplan
   Department of Economics  George Mason University
http://www.bcaplan.com  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  He wrote a letter, but did not post it because he felt that no 
 one 
   would have understood what he wanted to say, and besides it was 
 not 
   necessary that anyone but himself should understand it. 
   Leo Tolstoy, *The Cossacks*

---BeginMessage---

Hello Bryan,
  Has anyone compared whether or not highly unionized firms are more
likely to go bankrupt?
Jim




---End Message---


Re: Forecasting the 2002 Noble Memorial Prize in Economics

2002-10-09 Thread dmitche4

Nice prediction.

- Original Message -
From: Bill Dickens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tuesday, October 8, 2002 9:22 am
Subject: Forecasting the 2002 Noble Memorial Prize in Economics

 Well, it's that time of the year when Nobel Prizes are announced.  
 Last year
 I was half-correct in predicting that Janet Yellen would win but the
 rainmakers in Oslo decided to go with her husband George Akerlof.  
 This year
 I will go out on a limb and predict that the field of experimental 
 economicswill be recognized with the pioneers Vernon Smith and 
 Charlie Plott reaping
 top awards.  Honorable Mention - William Baumol.
 
 




WWII Germany - Olson - American South

2002-10-07 Thread dmitche4

If I recall Mancur Olson suggests that one of the reasons that post WWII 
West Germany did so well is that all of Germany's special interest 
groups were destroyed.

I'm inclined to agree although I know that Germany had tremendous 
manufacturing ability even at the end of the war.  However, why did the 
South fare so poorly after the US Civil War?  

Would the South have done better if the Freedmen's Bureau had been kept 
in place and Southern Bourbons were prevented from forming a powerful 
interest group?

David Mitchell





The Dead Grandmother Syndrome

2002-09-11 Thread dmitche4

One of the best articles on statistics I've read.  Includes an 
interesting slant on the need for divorce and remarriage to increase 
the number of available grandmothers.

http://biology.ecsu.ctstateu.edu/People/ConnRev




Re: rewards from higher Education

2002-07-10 Thread dmitche4

I think the article your refering to was called the Education 
Shiboleth.  First week of June in the Economist.  Summarized someone's 
work, but I don't remember who's.

Mitch

- Original Message -
From: Jacob W Braestrup [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 5:56 am
Subject: rewards from higher Education

 i remember reading something recently in the Economist on the 
 rewards 
 from public investment in higher education not being so high after 
 all 
 (one of Bryans old points as I remember).
 
 Now i have been trying to find the article - unsuccesfully! 
 
 can anyone remember which issue? - and/or does anybody know of any 
 other studies on the subject
 
 - jacob braestrup 
 




RE: Consumer Reports on Deregulation

2002-06-12 Thread dmitche4

On Bill's pint about quality competition.  I've heard that during the 
days of regulated air travel, airlines apparently competed on the beauty 
of the stewardesses.  I've been told by numerous sourcces (but have no 
real evidence) that some business magazines would rate the quality of 
the stewardesses in each airline.

If you favor hiring people based on their ability to serve coffee and 
tea instead of their looks, you might favor deregulation.

mitch mitchell

- Original Message -
From: William Dickens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, June 10, 2002 5:08 pm
Subject: RE: Consumer Reports on Deregulation

 Also relevant is quality and availability of service. Previously 
 pricesmay have been cheap/falling but the range of offering, customer
 treatment or availability may have constrained enjoyment of the 
 serviceto a sub optimal level. Deregulation could/should change 
 this. (I think
 it has in my limited experience)
 
 Exactly the opposite of what happened in the formerly regulated 
 markets I'm familiar with. With prices fixed at a level that gave 
 most good companies very good rates of return they competed by 
 increasing quality. Quality has declined most noticeably in air 
 travel and the brokerage industry, but arguably in trucking and 
 banking as well. 
 
 I'm also not sure to what extent the prices charged were also 
 controlledby governments as a macroeconomic tool to reduce 
 measures of inflation?
 Any thoughts?  
 
 Since the regulatory agencies tended to be captured by the 
 regulated industry (or at least sympathetic) prices tended to be 
 too high (thus the price declines) rather than too low. 
 
 As someone else said, the counterfactual is everything. CR is 
 comparing the price declines during the 50s, 60s and early 70s 
 with the price declines in the late 70s, and 80s. Productivity 
 growth was notably faster in the earlier period than the later 
 period. Would prices have declined as much in the 80s in trucking 
 airlines, and phone service if there hadn't been deregulation? 
 From the studies I've seen I seriously doubt it. 
 
 Of course not everybody's prices decline. Regulation did tend to 
 set prices too low for many low volume markets. In those places 
 prices have skyrocketed. I suspect that some of this is just price 
 rising to meet marginal cost, but because these are also markets 
 with substantial fixed costs (maintaining terminals, ticket agents 
 etc.) there is probably also some element of natural monopoly 
 pushing prices in these markets up above long-run marginal cost. 
 
 I would guess that there are three factors that account for CR's 
 anguish about deregulation: 1) Their sense of fairness is offended 
 by the big price increases experienced in difficult to serve 
 markets, 2) Coming from the upper middle class as they do, they 
 put more value on quality and are less concerned about price than 
 the marginal air traveler/bank customer/brokerage customer so they 
 experience the change from high q high p to low q low p less 
 favorably than the new people attracted to the market by the 
 change, and 3) deregulating a monopoly may cause an increase in 
 price and to some extent that is what deregulation did (perhaps 
 most notably in the cable industry, small air markets, and certain 
 types of phone service).  
 
 With respect to 3) don't think I'm not aware of the competition 
 that cable faces from satellite or how contestable air markets 
 are. Imperfect competition and limit pricing still leave plenty of 
 room for monopolistic distortion. I don't think that _the_ 
 definitive study on the costs and benefits of deregulation has 
 been done and I very much doubt that CR's study is it. After all, 
 CR used to  (still does?) insist that economists have to be wrong 
 about the predictability of capital markets because there are 
 numerous mutual funds that have had 5 or more years of ROR above 
 the market average - - without asking how many would be expected 
 on the basis of chance alone. Thus they used to endorse mutual 
 funds with exceptional records which, of course, tend to be the 
 ones with the riskiest strategies (and by the studies I've seen 
 only infinitesimally better expected returns). Sigh...
 - - Bill Dickens
 
 
 
 William T. Dickens
 The Brookings Institution
 1775 Massachusetts Avenue, NW
 Washington, DC 20036
 Phone: (202) 797-6113
 FAX: (202) 797-6181
 E-MAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 AOL IM: wtdickens
 
 
 




Re: Copy Protection of CDs

2002-05-29 Thread dmitche4

Some time ago Mark Wilson sent in an email on copy protection harming 
hardware.  Apparently a felt tip pen can foil that.

http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/industry/05/21/bc.media.cd.piracy.reut.reut
/index.html?related


Mitch

- Original Message -
From: Mark Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, May 13, 2002 5:26 pm
Subject: Copy Protection of CDs

 Evidently, Copy-protection schemes can actually damage hardware:
 
 http://www.silicon.com/bin/bladerunner?
30REQEVENT=REQAUTH=2104614001REQSUB=REQINT1=53255
 
 
 That record companies think this is a solution is laughable.  
 Okay, so a CD won't play in my computer and I can't 'rip' it and 
 encode into MP3.  Does this prevent the technologically savvy from 
 sending the digital signal from their standalone CD player into 
 their soundcard and encoding it this way, and then, of course, 
 distributing to the non-savvy crowd?  So..the record company has 
 achieved nothing as far as preventing piracy, but has diminished 
 the value of their product by not allowing it to be played on a 
 computer, and left themselves open to potential lawsuits from 
 damaged hardware, and possibly from Philips, who owns the CD 
 patent, and is none too happy about this...
 
 Mark Wilson
 Appalachian State University
 




Re: MBA's for senior exec's

2002-03-12 Thread dmitche4

I'm somewhat familiar with ITT Hartford's executive program.  For most 
things like basic accounting, the expected people to learn it on their 
own, they taught it at the office, or they paid for courses at local 
colleges.

For the upper level  management and people who were being groomed for 
upper level management, they used a different method.  

These people would go take executive MBA courses at top schools but 
they wouldn't get an executive MBA and the type of classes were 
different from a traditional MBA program.  Much more managing other 
managers courses and strategic planning.  These courses mirrored what 
Chris Coyne mentioned.  But, managers didn't take more than two classes 
from any one school.  So I know that they used the University of 
Michigan's Managing other Managers course, but not its advanced finance 
course (for that they used Wake Forest or UPenn).  The idea was that 
you would get the best course in the country not just what was offered 
at any particular school.  The other advantage was that employees never 
got an actual MBA.  They had learned; and they had had nice trips, but 
they didn't have an MBA that they could put on their resume to take to 
other companies.

That method makes a lot of sense to me, but I've never heard of any 
other company doing it that way.  So does ITT-Hartford know something 
that no one else does, or is it the other way around?

Mitch

- Original Message -
From: Chris Coyne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 0:20 am
Subject: Re: MBA's for senior exec's

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 less about lecturing and more about sharing various experiences 
 and case study analysis amongst the participants.  Presenting 
 executives with the opportunity for continued education may be a 
 way to get them to think out of the box and to gain new, fresh 
 ideas and experiences through interaction with others outside of 
 their firm (and its culture).  /P
 PI'm not sure about those at the executive level, but I know 
 that with lower to mid level employees, some firms require a 
 certain commitment after the degree is completed (at least that's 
 how it was in the IB industry) to ensure at least some return from 
 their investment.  I would also put stock in Pete's efficiency 
 wage explanation since a major selling point of many firms is 
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Re: The Economics of Military Stop-Loss Policies

2002-02-13 Thread dmitche4

Mike,

I think that the main difference is that during the draft, young men 
spent considerable amounts of energy avoiding the draft.  In this case 
there's no reason to suspect that men will enroll in college to avoid 
the stop gap measures.

Obviously some people will be unlikely to enlist if they think that 
they might not be able to leave on time.  What is the elasticity of 
supply for enlistees?  I suspect it is pretty inelastic with regards to 
potentail stop gap measures.  You might find that the numbers are not 
too different.

Also, what sort of choices do enlistees have?  If an enlistee thinks 
that he will be forced to stay if he chooses intel, will he be able to 
get into procurement instead?  If that is the case, then you might find 
that you don't get the best people for particular jobs.

Mitch
- Original Message -
From: Strobl Maj Michael R [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 8:47 am
Subject: The Economics of Military Stop-Loss Policies

 Armchairs,
 
 The military's current stop-loss policy prevents certain service 
 membersfrom leaving the service at the end of their normal 
 enlistment contract.
 This policy is affecting specific skills and grades deemed 
 critical for the
 war on terrorism.  In econimic terms, what are the similarities and
 dissimilarities between stop-loss and a conventional draft?
 
 My thoughts...
 
 Similarities:
 - Those affected by stop-loss are, in a sense, draftees. 
 - Therefore, stop-loss bypasses efficient labor market allocation
 mechanisms.
 - Stop-loss will tend to understate the economic (if not 
 accounting) cost of
 military manpower--the largest portion of the defense budget.
 - Stop-loss (arguably) encourages inefficient utilization of society's
 resources. 
 
 Dissimilarities:
 - Those affected presumably have a higher preference for military 
 servicethan those normally targeted in a conventional draft 
 (i.e., the 18 year
 old with little or no inclination toward military service).  How 
 does this
 affect the concept of economic rents?
 - Stop-loss doesn't require nearly the bureacratic overhead (e.g., 
 selectiveservice system, tracking down evaders) of a conventional 
 draft.- Under a conventional draft, and the military's current 
 closed labor
 system, you can't draft, say, an intelligence specialist with 10 
 year's of
 experience.  
 
 Your thoughts...
 
 Regards,
 Maj Mike Strobl
 USMC, Manpower Analyst
 
 




Re:

2001-10-31 Thread dmitche4

People talk negatively about their experiences at Chicago.  Unless you 
want something quite distinctive, I would recommend the highest ranking 
school that you can get into.

Mitch

- Original Message -
From: markjohn™ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thursday, November 1, 2001 1:34 am

 Armchairs,
 
 Biases out, which school is the best place to study economics and why?
 
 




RE: Disaster Raises Happiness, Trust

2001-10-09 Thread dmitche4

The problem with all of this is that humans don't really fit the mold.  
In other animals it is always the male who is adorned.  The male lion 
has the mane.  The male peacock has the long tail.  Even in less 
glamorous birds like ducks.  The male is more colorful.

In humans however, it appears that it is the women who spend more time 
primping and preening. (Good thing, I've already disqualified myself 
from running for office.)Males tend to spend less time on their 
appearance.

Even though I'm the worst offender for bringing in animal behavior 
models, this would seem to make these models less applicable to humans.

David Mitchell

- Original Message -
From: William Dickens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tuesday, October 9, 2001 3:27 pm
Subject: RE: Disaster Raises Happiness, Trust

 Since Darwin we normally think that it is women who choose which 
 males to mate with since males want to mate indiscriminately. Thus 
 you would expect it would be the male who would have to adapt to 
 the woman and not the other way around. However, if we are talking 
 about males supporting women and/or forming lifetime bonds then we 
 have an evolutionary game and it isn't clear what the outcome is. 
 However, that just puts us back in the dilemma that I proposed 
 earlier. We can see that it might be in men's interest to want to 
 mate when threatened but not women. I don't deny the empirical 
 fact, I just don't buy the explanations that have been given.  - - 
 Bill Dickens
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/03/01 12:12PM 
 I think the popularity of Nightmare on Elm Street, etc., 
 including with many young women, is fairly relevant, 
 and supportive of stress arousal.
 
 I'd suspect a strong second order effect in women: 
 the men are more than usually aroused; 
 which leads to more than usual arousal in the women.  
 I'd suspect women who are NOT more than usually 
 aroused with such men to be at a doubly severe 
 evolutionary disadvantage: a) fewer children overall,
 and b) less likely to keep a father around to help
 with the kids she does have.  
 
 
 
 Tom Grey
 
 -Original Message-
 From: William Dickens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 4:17 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Subject: Re: Disaster Raises Happiness, Trust
 
 
 I think this is a good EP explanation  for men, but there is a 
 problem with
 it as an explanation for women. I have to admit that I don't know 
 if women
 are aroused by stress as well, but from the woman's perspective it 
 wouldseem that her offspring would be most likely to succeed if 
 she waited for
 the guys to come back and then picked from that bunch. They would 
 presumablybe a more fit sub-sample of the original population and 
 would be more likely
 to be around to help provide for the children. - - Bill Dickens
 
 
 William T. Dickens
 The Brookings Institution
 1775 Massachusetts Avenue, NW
 Washington, DC 20036
 Phone: (202) 797-6113
 FAX: (202) 797-6181
 E-MAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 AOL IM: wtdickens
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/01/01 10:19PM 
With regard to Mr. Dickens' comment regarding whether stress 
 shouldcause 
 sexual arousal, I am tempted to think that evolutionary psychology 
 can 
 certainly explain this phenomenon.  Early societies, according to most
 models 
 of human development, used the males as hunters and warriors; 
 females were 
 gatherers.  With this division of labor, males certainly incurred 
 the more 
 perilous part of the community's job.  Before an important hunt or 
 major 
 battle, it is manifestly in the male's evolutionary favor to 
 become sexually
 
 aroused; after all, this may be his genome's last chance to reproduce
 itself! 
 Even if he dies in battle, his sex partners -- still safely at 
 home -- will
 
 be able to bear his young. 
 
 




Happiness, Trust and mate selection

2001-10-04 Thread dmitche4

I'm not a father, but those of you who think you are might want to 
check.  Those of you who have been surprised at how wonderful your 
offspring are, should be doubly cautious.

Mitch

- Original Message -
From: Jacob W Bræstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wednesday, October 3, 2001 1:32 pm
Subject: SV: Disaster Raises Happiness, Trust

 
 I remember to have both read and seen (on discovery channel) a 
 couple of
 studies that conclude that human females do in fact use this same 
 strategyas the birds (nesting with the reliable male, but mating 
 with the high
 quality). I believe this was labelled as a superior mating 
 strategy - just
 as the superior male mating strategy is to find the right mix of 
 quality(staying and raising his offspring) and quantity (mating 
 with as many as
 possible).
 
 That this primal urge among women was still alive and kicking was 
 allegedlyconfirmed by a study (conducted on british discos, I 
 believe) showing that
 women are more prone to go out alone (with female friends - whithout
 boyfriends / husbands) when they also have the biggest chance of 
 gettingpregnant. That - compaired with the girls NOT pregnant-
 prone - these girls
 were also more likely to be dressed to kill. And - finally - 
 that girls
 where more likely to be unfaithful at this time of the month.
 
 Also supporting this theory is a study (reported this summer in Danish
 media) based on the growing number of instances where a father 
 volunteers to
 donate an organ to one of his own children. In 15 percent of these 
 cases (in
 Denmark) - if I remember right - the DNA test reveiled that the 
 two were NOT
 related (of course the fathers were not told this - only that 
 there was no
 match). Presumably these figures excluded fathers who already knew 
 that they
 were not the father of the child.
 
 Although it is probably a somewhat small sample (I don't remember 
 the size),
 it is nevertheless pretty representative of the population at 
 large, I would
 say.
 
 As I said, most of this is just what I remember off hand - can anyone
 confirm???
 
 Jacob Wimpffen Bræstrup
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 Power threatens; wealth rewards: one eludes power by deceiving 
 it; to
 obtain the favours of wealth one must serve it: the latter is 
 thereforebound to win
 - Constant's speech given at the Athénée Royal, 1819
 
 
 
 
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 Emne: Re: Disaster Raises Happiness, Trust
 
 
 Possibly.  In many species of birds, the female will mate with high
 quality males who are often not around b/c high quality males have 
 manymating opportunities.  The female then nests with a lower 
 quality male
 who raises the young.  I don't actually know if humans do this, b/c
 humans don't always fit the models.
 
 Mitch Mitchell
 
 - Original Message -
 From: William Dickens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Wednesday, October 3, 2001 7:17 am
 Subject: Re: Disaster Raises Happiness, Trust
 
  I think this is a good EP explanation  for men, but there is a
  problem with it as an explanation for women. I have to admit that
  I don't know if women are aroused by stress as well, but from the
  woman's perspective it would seem that her offspring would be most
  likely to succeed if she waited for the guys to come back and then
  picked from that bunch. They would presumably be a more fit sub-
  sample of the original population and would be more likely to be
  around to help provide for the children. - - Bill Dickens
 
 
  William T. Dickens
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   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/01/01 10:19PM 
 With regard to Mr. Dickens' comment regarding whether stress
  should cause
  sexual arousal, I am tempted to think that evolutionary psychology
  can
  certainly explain this phenomenon.  Early societies, according to
  most models
  of human development, used the males as hunters and warriors;
  females were
  gatherers.  With this division of labor, males certainly incurred
  the more
  perilous part of the community's job.  Before an important hunt or
  major
  battle, it is manifestly in the male's evolutionary favor to
  become sexually
  aroused; after all, this may be his genome's last chance to
  reproduce itself!
  Even if he dies in battle, his sex partners -- still safely at
  home -- will
  be able to bear his young.
 
 
 
 




Re: Handicapping the 2001 Noble Prize in Economics

2001-09-20 Thread dmitche4

I'd love to see Tullock or Smith.  My prediction is that the winner 
will be some obscure person.  Not a single one of us will be able to 
think of what he's done.

Mitch

- Original Message -
From: Bryan Caplan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thursday, September 20, 2001 2:37 pm
Subject: Re: Handicapping the 2001 Noble Prize in Economics

 My wish (not prediction): Joint prize for Anne Krueger and Gordon
 Tullock for rent-seeking.
 -- 
Prof. Bryan Caplan
   Department of Economics  George Mason University
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  Familiar as the voice of the mind is to each, the highest merit 
 we 
   ascribe to Moses, Plato, and Milton is, that they set at naught 
   books and traditions, and spoke not what men but what *they* 
   thought. A man should learn to detect and watch that gleam of 
   light which flashes across his mind from within, more than the 
   lustre of the firmament of bards and sages. 
--Ralph Waldo Emerson, Self-Reliance