Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Using a BIRT Editor to Create or Modify Web Reports

2012-12-04 Thread Stroud, Natalie K
Analytics is a separate product – and I’ll warn you, the licensing is a bit 
pricy.  Analytics comes with the ITSM universe by default.  If you wanted to 
run reports that pull info from both ITSM and a custom Remedy app, you’d need 
to customize the ITSM universe to include your custom apps.  If you truly 
didn’t need ITSM data for reports, then I expect you’d need to build a separate 
universe and I have no idea how complicated a procedure that might be.

I would also recommend doing some research on what versions of AR System 
Analytics can link to.  I’m thinking that we’ve had to either upgrade our 
Analytics in parallel with another upgrade we did (couldn’t say offhand whether 
that was AR System or ITSM) or else delay upgrading Analytics in order to 
ensure compatibility with our existing system.

Good luck!

Natalie Stroud
SAIC @ Sandia National Laboratories
ARS-ITSM Tester
Albuquerque, NM USA
nkst...@sandia.govmailto:nkst...@sandia.gov
ITSM 7.6.04 SP2 – Windows 2003 – SQL Server 2008


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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Elry
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 3:45 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Using a BIRT Editor to Create or Modify Web Reports

** I have a client who would like to use Analytics with a custom application 
and not the ITSM Suite.

Should they contact the local Sales Rep for a price on Business Analytics, or 
is this a product that comes with ARS.



On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 5:28:42 PM UTC-5, Easter, David wrote:
**
I suppose it could.  It comes with a Business Objects universe tailored to BMC 
Remedy applications but when you purchase the Premium upgrade (which is 
required to integrate with the Mid-Tier anyway), you get the entitlements to 
all the features within Business Objects Premium Enterprise.  From there you 
could create your own custom reports with AR System as the data source, I’d 
expect.

-David J. Easter
Manager of Product Management, AR System
BSM  Atrium Solutions Management
BMC Software, Inc.

The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed in this 
E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc.  My voluntary 
participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a spokesperson, 
liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software, Inc.

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Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 2:24 PM
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David
Subject: Re: Using a BIRT Editor to Create or Modify Web Reports

Hi David...

Can BMC Analytics be used with custom applications?



On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 11:35:22 AM UTC-5, Easter, David wrote:
There are currently no short term plans to support later versions.

I do not expect that later versions will work since the editor version is 
limited by the version of the embedded engine.  Later editors will potentially 
insert constructs that are not recognized by the AR System web reporting engine 
- thus later editors are not supported.

If/when the version of the embedded engine is updated to a later version, I 
expect that an equivalent version of the editor would be supported.

If you have complicated reporting needs, BMC recommends considering the BMC 
Analytics product - which is designed to fulfill the business needs of 
customers with mature reporting requirements.


-David J. Easter
Manager of Product Management, AR System
BSM  Atrium Solutions Management
BMC Software, Inc.

The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed in this 
E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc.  My voluntary 
participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a spokesperson, 
liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software, Inc.


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[mailto:ars...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Frank Caruso
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 7:57 AM
To: ars...@arslist.orgmailto:ars...@arslist.org
Subject: Re: Using a BIRT Editor to Create or Modify Web Reports

Do you know if there are plans to support later versions?

ITSM 764 sp2

I just tried 4.2.1 and was able to create a report using the AR System ODA 
driver but it would not run from the Midtier. I received missing object errors.

Hay anyone else had luck using later versions?

Thank you

Frank

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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Using a BIRT Editor to Create or Modify Web Reports

2012-12-04 Thread Elry
Thanks Natalie...

I suspect that price will be an issue for us.  End of year - not much funds 
remaining.



On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 6:00:31 PM UTC-5, Stroud, Natalie K wrote:

 ** 
  
 Analytics is a separate product – and I’ll warn you, the licensing is a 
 bit pricy.  Analytics comes with the ITSM universe by default.  If you 
 wanted to run reports that pull info from both ITSM and a custom Remedy 
 app, you’d need to customize the ITSM universe to include your custom 
 apps.  If you truly didn’t need ITSM data for reports, then I expect you’d 
 need to build a separate universe and I have no idea how complicated a 
 procedure that might be.

  

 I would also recommend doing some research on what versions of AR System 
 Analytics can link to.  I’m thinking that we’ve had to either upgrade our 
 Analytics in parallel with another upgrade we did (couldn’t say offhand 
 whether that was AR System or ITSM) or else delay upgrading Analytics in 
 order to ensure compatibility with our existing system.

  

 Good luck!

  

 *Natalie Stroud*

 SAIC @ Sandia National Laboratories

 ARS-ITSM Tester

 Albuquerque, NM USA

 nkst...@sandia.gov javascript:

 ITSM 7.6.04 SP2 – Windows 2003 – SQL Server 2008

  

  

 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 ars...@arslist.org javascript:] *On Behalf Of *Elry
 *Sent:* Tuesday, December 04, 2012 3:45 PM
 *To:* ars...@arslist.org javascript:
 *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: Using a BIRT Editor to Create or Modify Web 
 Reports

  

 ** I have a client who would like to use Analytics with a custom 
 application and not the ITSM Suite.

 Should they contact the local Sales Rep for a price on Business Analytics, 
 or is this a product that comes with ARS.



 On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 5:28:42 PM UTC-5, Easter, David wrote:

 ** 
  
 I suppose it could.  It comes with a Business Objects universe tailored to 
 BMC Remedy applications but when you purchase the Premium upgrade (which is 
 required to integrate with the Mid-Tier anyway), you get the entitlements 
 to all the features within Business Objects Premium Enterprise.  From there 
 you could create your own custom reports with AR System as the data source, 
 I’d expect.

  

 -David J. Easter

 Manager of Product Management, AR System

 BSM  Atrium Solutions Management

 BMC Software, Inc.

  

 The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed in 
 this E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc.  My 
 voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a 
 spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software, 
 Inc.

  
  
 *From:* Elry [mailto:elry...@gmail.com] 
 *Sent:* Tuesday, December 04, 2012 2:24 PM
 *To:* ars...@googlegroups.com
 *Cc:* ars...@arslist.org; ars...@arslist.org; Easter, David
 *Subject:* Re: Using a BIRT Editor to Create or Modify Web Reports
  
  

 Hi David...

 *Can BMC Analytics be used with custom applications?*



 On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 11:35:22 AM UTC-5, Easter, David wrote:

 There are currently no short term plans to support later versions. 

 I do not expect that later versions will work since the editor version is 
 limited by the version of the embedded engine.  Later editors will 
 potentially insert constructs that are not recognized by the AR System web 
 reporting engine - thus later editors are not supported. 

 If/when the version of the embedded engine is updated to a later version, 
 I expect that an equivalent version of the editor would be supported. 

 If you have complicated reporting needs, BMC recommends considering the 
 BMC Analytics product - which is designed to fulfill the business needs of 
 customers with mature reporting requirements. 


 -David J. Easter 
 Manager of Product Management, AR System 
 BSM  Atrium Solutions Management 
 BMC Software, Inc. 
   
 The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed in 
 this E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc.  My 
 voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a 
 spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software, 
 Inc. 


 -Original Message- 
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
 mailto:ars...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Frank Caruso 
 Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 7:57 AM 
 To: ars...@arslist.org 
 Subject: Re: Using a BIRT Editor to Create or Modify Web Reports 

 Do you know if there are plans to support later versions? 

 ITSM 764 sp2 

 I just tried 4.2.1 and was able to create a report using the AR System ODA 
 driver but it would not run from the Midtier. I received missing object 
 errors. 

 Hay anyone else had luck using later versions? 

 Thank you 

 Frank 

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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Using a BIRT Editor to Create or Modify Web Reports

2012-12-04 Thread David Ferguson
Check out Yurbi at www.yurbi.com it supports ITSM as well as Custom ARS
applications and any other database, csv, excel, or API source you have
data.   It's in the breed of modern self-service, agile BI tools and comes
without all the upfront and ongoing costs associated with Business Objects
and older, legacy BI tools.

http://www.yurbi.com/solutions/bmc-itsm-remedy/

For the custom app you mention,  Yurbi Community is free for 1 data source,
 so you could have 2 users use Yurbi to build an unlimited number of
reports and dashboards and share up to 5 of those for absolutely free.

Disclosure:  I work for 5000fish the company behind Yurbi,

thanks,

David

On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 7:19 PM, Elry elryal...@gmail.com wrote:

 ** Thanks Natalie...

 I suspect that price will be an issue for us.  End of year - not much
 funds remaining.




 On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 6:00:31 PM UTC-5, Stroud, Natalie K wrote:

 **

 Analytics is a separate product – and I’ll warn you, the licensing is a
 bit pricy.  Analytics comes with the ITSM universe by default.  If you
 wanted to run reports that pull info from both ITSM and a custom Remedy
 app, you’d need to customize the ITSM universe to include your custom
 apps.  If you truly didn’t need ITSM data for reports, then I expect you’d
 need to build a separate universe and I have no idea how complicated a
 procedure that might be.



 I would also recommend doing some research on what versions of AR System
 Analytics can link to.  I’m thinking that we’ve had to either upgrade our
 Analytics in parallel with another upgrade we did (couldn’t say offhand
 whether that was AR System or ITSM) or else delay upgrading Analytics in
 order to ensure compatibility with our existing system.



 Good luck!



 *Natalie Stroud*

 SAIC @ Sandia National Laboratories

 ARS-ITSM Tester

 Albuquerque, NM USA

 nkst...@sandia.gov

 ITSM 7.6.04 SP2 – Windows 2003 – SQL Server 2008





 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 ars...@arslist.org] *On Behalf Of *Elry

 *Sent:* Tuesday, December 04, 2012 3:45 PM
 *To:* ars...@arslist.org

 *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: Using a BIRT Editor to Create or Modify Web
 Reports



 ** I have a client who would like to use Analytics with a custom
 application and not the ITSM Suite.

 Should they contact the local Sales Rep for a price on Business
 Analytics, or is this a product that comes with ARS.



 On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 5:28:42 PM UTC-5, Easter, David wrote:

 **

 I suppose it could.  It comes with a Business Objects universe tailored
 to BMC Remedy applications but when you purchase the Premium upgrade (which
 is required to integrate with the Mid-Tier anyway), you get the
 entitlements to all the features within Business Objects Premium
 Enterprise.  From there you could create your own custom reports with AR
 System as the data source, I’d expect.



 -David J. Easter

 Manager of Product Management, AR System

 BSM  Atrium Solutions Management

 BMC Software, Inc.



 The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed in
 this E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc.  My
 voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a
 spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software,
 Inc.



 *From:* Elry [mailto:elry...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, December 04, 2012 2:24 PM
 *To:* ars...@googlegroups.com
 *Cc:* ars...@arslist.org; ars...@arslist.org; Easter, David
 *Subject:* Re: Using a BIRT Editor to Create or Modify Web Reports



 Hi David...

 *Can BMC Analytics be used with custom applications?*



 On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 11:35:22 AM UTC-5, Easter, David wrote:

 There are currently no short term plans to support later versions.

 I do not expect that later versions will work since the editor version is
 limited by the version of the embedded engine.  Later editors will
 potentially insert constructs that are not recognized by the AR System web
 reporting engine - thus later editors are not supported.

 If/when the version of the embedded engine is updated to a later version,
 I expect that an equivalent version of the editor would be supported.

 If you have complicated reporting needs, BMC recommends considering the
 BMC Analytics product - which is designed to fulfill the business needs of
 customers with mature reporting requirements.


 -David J. Easter
 Manager of Product Management, AR System
 BSM  Atrium Solutions Management
 BMC Software, Inc.

 The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed in
 this E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc.  My
 voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a
 spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software,
 Inc.


 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
 mailto:ars...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Frank Caruso
 Sent: Tuesday, December 04,