Re: Date/Time Error 9376

2010-03-23 Thread Lyle Taylor
I've had issues with people in different locales trying to submit records.  
What was odd was that they didn't always have to change a date for it to cause 
issues - a field would have a date in it, in the format that Remedy displayed 
it in, and then it would complain that the date was in the wrong format when 
the user tried to save the changes.  I think that's probably a bug in the tool. 
 I worked around it by specifying a locale on the user's preference record 
(generally setting it to en_US).  Not necessarily the best option (especially 
since it may change their settings to something out of their norm), but it 
worked.  You could also trying specifying they actual locale if it's not en_US 
to see if forcing it to a specific value helps take care of the issue.

Lyle

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To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Date/Time Error 9376

**
Hello list,

We are experience an issue with the ITSM Change Management approvals, but which 
I believe is more like a ARS date/time issue.

While trying to approve a change the following error pops up to the user:

Format of data or time value is not recognized.
.
.
Earliest Start Date (ARERR 9376)

The user trying to approve has the locale set to blank in his Application 
Preferences record.
The user that submitted the change record has no record in the Application 
Preferences form.

I believe this would be an issue related to a user submitting a change using 
MM/DD locale and the other user, by approving, modifying the change but using 
DD/MM locale.

Would this be the case of this error?

Which would be the best way to avoid this type of issues? Should I set the same 
locale to all users?
How do I set a default locale for those that does not have a application 
preference record?

Thank you in advance for any assistance!!!

Regards,

Rudolf
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Re: Date/Time Error 9376

2010-03-23 Thread Rudolf Schwarzkopf
Hi Lyle,

Thank you for your response.

That is exactly what is happening, the user is not directly changing a date
value, just trying to approve a change in the Approval Central of ITSM (I'm
not sure if workflow is triggered to update a date field though).

To ensure the locale is correct I'm going to set the locale for all the
users.
For the users that still does not have an application preferences record I
believe that the system locale, present in the Configuration tab of AR
System Administration Console, would be used.

My only concern is that for new records created in the future the default
should be the system locale and not blank as I have seen, to avoid using the
client machine locale as much as possible.

Is there any place that I can specify a default locale for the Application
Preferences that will be created in the future? Or the only way would be to
set a default value for the field in the form?

Thanks again,

Rudolf

On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Lyle Taylor tayl...@ldschurch.org wrote:

 **

 I’ve had issues with people in different locales trying to submit records.
 What was odd was that they didn’t always have to change a date for it to
 cause issues – a field would have a date in it, in the format that Remedy
 displayed it in, and then it would complain that the date was in the wrong
 format when the user tried to save the changes.  I think that’s probably a
 bug in the tool.  I worked around it by specifying a locale on the user’s
 preference record (generally setting it to en_US).  Not necessarily the best
 option (especially since it may change their settings to something out of
 their norm), but it worked.  You could also trying specifying they actual
 locale if it’s not en_US to see if forcing it to a specific value helps take
 care of the issue.



 Lyle



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 arsl...@arslist.org] *On Behalf Of *Rudolf Schwarzkopf
 *Sent:* Monday, March 22, 2010 2:51 PM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Date/Time Error 9376



 **

 Hello list,



 We are experience an issue with the ITSM Change Management approvals, but
 which I believe is more like a ARS date/time issue.



 While trying to approve a change the following error pops up to the user:



 Format of data or time value is not recognized.

 .

 .

 Earliest Start Date (ARERR 9376)



 The user trying to approve has the locale set to blank in his Application
 Preferences record.

 The user that submitted the change record has no record in the Application
 Preferences form.



 I believe this would be an issue related to a user submitting a change
 using MM/DD locale and the other user, by approving, modifying the change
 but using DD/MM locale.



 Would this be the case of this error?



 Which would be the best way to avoid this type of issues? Should I set the
 same locale to all users?

 How do I set a default locale for those that does not have a application
 preference record?



 Thank you in advance for any assistance!!!



 Regards,



 Rudolf

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Re: Date/Time Error 9376

2010-03-23 Thread Lyle Taylor
I have a vague recollection from when I first did ARS training that you could 
set preference defaults, but I can't recall how it was done.  One option might 
be to modify the underlying form and specify a default value for the field.  
That might ensure that it has a value when new preference records are created.

Lyle

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Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 1:35 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Date/Time Error 9376

**
Hi Lyle,

Thank you for your response.

That is exactly what is happening, the user is not directly changing a date 
value, just trying to approve a change in the Approval Central of ITSM (I'm not 
sure if workflow is triggered to update a date field though).

To ensure the locale is correct I'm going to set the locale for all the users.
For the users that still does not have an application preferences record I 
believe that the system locale, present in the Configuration tab of AR System 
Administration Console, would be used.

My only concern is that for new records created in the future the default 
should be the system locale and not blank as I have seen, to avoid using the 
client machine locale as much as possible.

Is there any place that I can specify a default locale for the Application 
Preferences that will be created in the future? Or the only way would be to set 
a default value for the field in the form?

Thanks again,

Rudolf

On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Lyle Taylor 
tayl...@ldschurch.orgmailto:tayl...@ldschurch.org wrote:
**
I've had issues with people in different locales trying to submit records.  
What was odd was that they didn't always have to change a date for it to cause 
issues - a field would have a date in it, in the format that Remedy displayed 
it in, and then it would complain that the date was in the wrong format when 
the user tried to save the changes.  I think that's probably a bug in the tool. 
 I worked around it by specifying a locale on the user's preference record 
(generally setting it to en_US).  Not necessarily the best option (especially 
since it may change their settings to something out of their norm), but it 
worked.  You could also trying specifying they actual locale if it's not en_US 
to see if forcing it to a specific value helps take care of the issue.

Lyle

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Schwarzkopf
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 2:51 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Date/Time Error 9376

**
Hello list,

We are experience an issue with the ITSM Change Management approvals, but which 
I believe is more like a ARS date/time issue.

While trying to approve a change the following error pops up to the user:

Format of data or time value is not recognized.
.
.
Earliest Start Date (ARERR 9376)

The user trying to approve has the locale set to blank in his Application 
Preferences record.
The user that submitted the change record has no record in the Application 
Preferences form.

I believe this would be an issue related to a user submitting a change using 
MM/DD locale and the other user, by approving, modifying the change but using 
DD/MM locale.

Would this be the case of this error?

Which would be the best way to avoid this type of issues? Should I set the same 
locale to all users?
How do I set a default locale for those that does not have a application 
preference record?

Thank you in advance for any assistance!!!

Regards,

Rudolf
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Are_


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Re: Date/Time Error 9376

2010-03-23 Thread Grooms, Frederick W
Or you could always set up your own filter against the AR System User 
preferences form to force the value to be correct.

Fred

-Original Message-
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[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Lyle Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 4:55 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Date/Time Error 9376

** 
I have a vague recollection from when I first did ARS training that you could 
set preference defaults, but I can't recall how it was done.  One option might 
be to modify the underlying form and specify a default value for the field.  
That might ensure that it has a value when new preference records are created.

Lyle

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Rudolf Schwarzkopf
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 1:35 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Date/Time Error 9376

** 
Hi Lyle,

Thank you for your response.

That is exactly what is happening, the user is not directly changing a date 
value, just trying to approve a change in the Approval Central of ITSM (I'm not 
sure if workflow is triggered to update a date field though).

To ensure the locale is correct I'm going to set the locale for all the users.
For the users that still does not have an application preferences record I 
believe that the system locale, present in the Configuration tab of AR System 
Administration Console, would be used.

My only concern is that for new records created in the future the default 
should be the system locale and not blank as I have seen, to avoid using the 
client machine locale as much as possible.

Is there any place that I can specify a default locale for the Application 
Preferences that will be created in the future? Or the only way would be to set 
a default value for the field in the form?

Thanks again,

Rudolf

-Original Message-
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Lyle Taylor tayl...@ldschurch.org wrote:
** 
I've had issues with people in different locales trying to submit records.  
What was odd was that they didn't always have to change a date for it to cause 
issues - a field would have a date in it, in the format that Remedy displayed 
it in, and then it would complain that the date was in the wrong format when 
the user tried to save the changes.  I think that's probably a bug in the 
tool.  I worked around it by specifying a locale on the user's preference 
record (generally setting it to en_US).  Not necessarily the best option 
(especially since it may change their settings to something out of their norm), 
but it worked.  You could also trying specifying they actual locale if it's not 
en_US to see if forcing it to a specific value helps take care of the issue.

 
Lyle

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[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Rudolf Schwarzkopf
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 2:51 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Date/Time Error 9376
 
** 
Hello list,
 
We are experience an issue with the ITSM Change Management approvals, but which 
I believe is more like a ARS date/time issue.
 
While trying to approve a change the following error pops up to the user:
 
Format of data or time value is not recognized. Earliest Start Date (ARERR 
9376)
 
The user trying to approve has the locale set to blank in his Application 
Preferences record.
The user that submitted the change record has no record in the Application 
Preferences form.
 
I believe this would be an issue related to a user submitting a change using 
MM/DD locale and the other user, by approving, modifying the change but using 
DD/MM locale.
 
Would this be the case of this error?
 
Which would be the best way to avoid this type of issues? Should I set the same 
locale to all users?
How do I set a default locale for those that does not have a application 
preference record?
 
Thank you in advance for any assistance!!!
 
Regards,
 
Rudolf

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Date/Time Error 9376

2010-03-22 Thread Rudolf Schwarzkopf
Hello list,

We are experience an issue with the ITSM Change Management approvals, but
which I believe is more like a ARS date/time issue.

While trying to approve a change the following error pops up to the user:

Format of data or time value is not recognized.
.
.
Earliest Start Date (ARERR 9376)

The user trying to approve has the locale set to blank in his Application
Preferences record.
The user that submitted the change record has no record in the Application
Preferences form.

I believe this would be an issue related to a user submitting a change using
MM/DD locale and the other user, by approving, modifying the change but
using DD/MM locale.

Would this be the case of this error?

Which would be the best way to avoid this type of issues? Should I set the
same locale to all users?
How do I set a default locale for those that does not have a application
preference record?

Thank you in advance for any assistance!!!

Regards,

Rudolf

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