Re: Impact of Removing the defined OTB indexes from a form
>From what I can tell of the table you provided -- none of the indexes are being used. So - deleting them would have no affect. Except (and this is a stretch) ... not having these indexes exist means more memory available to put other indexes into memory. (But - I doubt that is an issue here). (If they are not being used - they wouldn't be in memory anyway) Deleting these indexes will improve "insert and update performance" ... but - with the speed of disks these days - I doubt that is your bottleneck. My general recommendation is to "update statistics", identify the problem queries -- and "create indexes" to assist. General question ... has anybody seen deleting an index (or 10 indexes) actually improve any query performance? If so -- how did it improve? -John On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 2:31 AM, Madhu V wrote: > ** > > Recently while troubleshooting performance issues on our Production > system, our DBA team has identified some unused indexes on T2356 (HPD:Help > Desk form) and suggested us removing them could improve the query > performance and clean up some space in the Database. We have verified the > same from remedy end and found many are OTB defined indexes for the form , > same have been mentioned below. Please suggest us whether can we go ahead > and remove these indexes ? Please mention if you foresee any impacts. > > > > *TableName* > > *IndexName* > > *Remedy Form Name* > > *Remedy Field Name* > > *UserSeek* > > *UserScans* > > *UserLookups* > > *UserUpdates* > > *TableRows* > > T2356 > > I2356_20003_1 > > HPD:Help Desk > > Product Categorisation Tier 1 > Product Categorisation Tier 2 > Product Categorisation Tier 3 > > 0 > > 0 > > 0 > > 105264 > > 903085 > > T2356 > > I2356_240001002_1 > > HPD:Help Desk > > Product Name > > 0 > > 0 > > 0 > > 105264 > > 903085 > > T2356 > > I2356_100869_1 > > HPD:Help Desk > > Incident Association Type > > 0 > > 0 > > 0 > > 103974 > > 903085 > > T2356 > > I2356_301735100_1 > > HPD:Help Desk > > mc_ueid > > 0 > > 0 > > 0 > > 102675 > > 903085 > > T2356 > > I2356_301734000_1 > > HPD:Help Desk > > Component_ID > > 0 > > 0 > > 0 > > 102675 > > 903085 > > T2356 > > I2356_25023_1 > > HPD:Help Desk > > Escalated? > > 0 > > 248 > > 0 > > 102716 > > 903085 > > > > Please find the version and configuration of AR System details below: > > Server version: 8.1.00 201409181335Hotfix > > Mid-Tier Version : 8.1.01 (SP1) 201408220302 Hotfix > > Web Server Information : Apache Tomcat/7.0.55 Operating System Name : > Windows Server 2012 > > Java Version : 1.7.0_45 > > Server Group : Yes > > DB : MS SQL 2012 > > On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 6:20 PM, John Sundberg < > john.sundb...@kineticdata.com> wrote: > >> ** >> Well - if it is a unique index - you will make swiss cheese of your >> system. >> >> I would suggest - don’t delete the index. >> >> I will ask you a question in return: >> >> What benefits do you see in removing an OTB index? >> >> -John >> >> On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 4:07 AM, Madhu V < >> madhu.pesronalandpriv...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi , >>> >>> Can you please let me if there will be any impact if we remove the OTB >>> defined indexes from the OTB form? >>> >>> Regards >>> Madhu >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org >>> "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years" >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> *John Sundberg* >> Kinetic Data, Inc. >> "Your business. Your process." >> >> 651-556-0930 I john.sundb...@kineticdata.com >> www.kineticdata.com I community.kineticdata.com >> >> >> _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ >> > > _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ -- *John Sundberg* Kinetic Data, Inc. "Your business. Your process." 651-556-0930 I john.sundb...@kineticdata.com www.kineticdata.com I community.kineticdata.com ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years"
Re: Impact of Removing the defined OTB indexes from a form
Recently while troubleshooting performance issues on our Production system, our DBA team has identified some unused indexes on T2356 (HPD:Help Desk form) and suggested us removing them could improve the query performance and clean up some space in the Database. We have verified the same from remedy end and found many are OTB defined indexes for the form , same have been mentioned below. Please suggest us whether can we go ahead and remove these indexes ? Please mention if you foresee any impacts. *TableName* *IndexName* *Remedy Form Name* *Remedy Field Name* *UserSeek* *UserScans* *UserLookups* *UserUpdates* *TableRows* T2356 I2356_20003_1 HPD:Help Desk Product Categorisation Tier 1 Product Categorisation Tier 2 Product Categorisation Tier 3 0 0 0 105264 903085 T2356 I2356_240001002_1 HPD:Help Desk Product Name 0 0 0 105264 903085 T2356 I2356_100869_1 HPD:Help Desk Incident Association Type 0 0 0 103974 903085 T2356 I2356_301735100_1 HPD:Help Desk mc_ueid 0 0 0 102675 903085 T2356 I2356_301734000_1 HPD:Help Desk Component_ID 0 0 0 102675 903085 T2356 I2356_25023_1 HPD:Help Desk Escalated? 0 248 0 102716 903085 Please find the version and configuration of AR System details below: Server version: 8.1.00 201409181335Hotfix Mid-Tier Version : 8.1.01 (SP1) 201408220302 Hotfix Web Server Information : Apache Tomcat/7.0.55 Operating System Name : Windows Server 2012 Java Version : 1.7.0_45 Server Group : Yes DB : MS SQL 2012 On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 6:20 PM, John Sundberg < john.sundb...@kineticdata.com> wrote: > ** > Well - if it is a unique index - you will make swiss cheese of your system. > > I would suggest - don’t delete the index. > > I will ask you a question in return: > > What benefits do you see in removing an OTB index? > > -John > > On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 4:07 AM, Madhu V < > madhu.pesronalandpriv...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi , >> >> Can you please let me if there will be any impact if we remove the OTB >> defined indexes from the OTB form? >> >> Regards >> Madhu >> >> >> ___ >> UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org >> "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years" >> > > > > -- > > *John Sundberg* > Kinetic Data, Inc. > "Your business. Your process." > > 651-556-0930 I john.sundb...@kineticdata.com > www.kineticdata.com I community.kineticdata.com > > > _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ > ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years"
Re: Impact of Removing the defined OTB indexes from a form
Well - if it is a unique index - you will make swiss cheese of your system. I would suggest - don’t delete the index. I will ask you a question in return: What benefits do you see in removing an OTB index? -John On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 4:07 AM, Madhu V wrote: > Hi , > > Can you please let me if there will be any impact if we remove the OTB > defined indexes from the OTB form? > > Regards > Madhu > > > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org > "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years" > -- *John Sundberg* Kinetic Data, Inc. "Your business. Your process." 651-556-0930 I john.sundb...@kineticdata.com www.kineticdata.com I community.kineticdata.com ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years"
Re: Impact of Removing the defined OTB indexes from a form
Some DBAs want to manage indexes from the DB level, and so they recreate them there. That *can* increase performance, but from that point, all maintenance of indexes must occur at the DB level. Apart from that, I don't know why one would remove indexes from a form, unless it's a form no one searches against. Rick Cook On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 2:15 AM, LJ LongWing wrote: > ** > > Whatever was defined in their workflow that was going to utilize that > index won't be able to and performance could suffer as a result. > On May 28, 2015 3:07 AM, "Madhu V" > wrote: > >> Hi , >> >> Can you please let me if there will be any impact if we remove the OTB >> defined indexes from the OTB form? >> >> Regards >> Madhu >> >> >> ___ >> UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org >> "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years" >> > _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years"
Re: Impact of Removing the defined OTB indexes from a form
Whatever was defined in their workflow that was going to utilize that index won't be able to and performance could suffer as a result. On May 28, 2015 3:07 AM, "Madhu V" wrote: > Hi , > > Can you please let me if there will be any impact if we remove the OTB > defined indexes from the OTB form? > > Regards > Madhu > > > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org > "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years" > ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years"
Impact of Removing the defined OTB indexes from a form
Hi , Can you please let me if there will be any impact if we remove the OTB defined indexes from the OTB form? Regards Madhu ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years"
