Re: Keeping Mid Tier in a framed web page

2011-02-11 Thread Jill E. Peterson
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 4:26 PM, Luttmann, Michael W Mr CTR DISA CD553 
michael.luttmann@csd.disa.mil wrote:

 I wonder if this is similar to a recent request I got. My military/DoD
 customer wants to add For Official Use Only banners to ALL ITSM forms
 (and consoles) on the M-T client.  This cannot be done by modifying the
 CSS.  The only thing I can think of is modifying the background on EVERY
 form.

 Is there a better way?

 (ARS / ITSM 7.1)



It's quite hack-y and I haven't confirmed in IE that it looks the same, but
you might be able to add a graphic to the top using CSS like so, obviously
updating 75px to match the height of your graphic, and the source of your
image, respectively. I put this at the *end* of the CSS file to avoid
!important-ing or making changes elsewhere for ease of the example.

#FormApp {
top: 75px;
}
html {
background: #8b  url(
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_EQFIWgr-CEY/TVRq919jgCI/Ajc/6PN_KMnpmyM/s800/fakebanner.gif)
no-repeat left top;
}

This works in Firefox using ARS/ITSM 7.5 anyhow.
[image:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_EQFIWgr-CEY/TVRsxnGMEsI/Ajw/GKe-PaTIewo/s800/fakebanner.png]

Putting the banner inbetween the Logout-Help-Home buttons and the BMC banner
would certainly require more effort than this and is maybe the solution you
were looking for instead.

If the sole intention is displaying a banner at the top of the page, it
might be a quicker way than messing with iframes, and even when new windows
open you would still see the banner.

Jill

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Re: Keeping Mid Tier in a framed web page

2011-02-11 Thread Luttmann, Michael W Mr CTR DISA CD553
Thanks, Jill.  That sounds like something to try out!

 

Mike L.

 

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Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 11:25 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Keeping Mid Tier in a framed web page

 

** 

On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 4:26 PM, Luttmann, Michael W Mr CTR DISA CD553
michael.luttmann@csd.disa.mil wrote:

I wonder if this is similar to a recent request I got. My military/DoD
customer wants to add For Official Use Only banners to ALL ITSM forms
(and consoles) on the M-T client.  This cannot be done by modifying the
CSS.  The only thing I can think of is modifying the background on EVERY
form.

Is there a better way?

(ARS / ITSM 7.1)



It's quite hack-y and I haven't confirmed in IE that it looks the same,
but you might be able to add a graphic to the top using CSS like so,
obviously updating 75px to match the height of your graphic, and the
source of your image, respectively. I put this at the end of the CSS
file to avoid !important-ing or making changes elsewhere for ease of the
example.

#FormApp {
top: 75px;
}
html {
background: #8b
url(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_EQFIWgr-CEY/TVRq919jgCI/A
jc/6PN_KMnpmyM/s800/fakebanner.gif) no-repeat left top;
}

This works in Firefox using ARS/ITSM 7.5 anyhow.
 
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_EQFIWgr-CEY/TVRsxnGMEsI/Ajw/G
Ke-PaTIewo/s800/fakebanner.pnghttps://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_EQFIWg
r-CEY/TVRsxnGMEsI/Ajw/GKe-PaTIewo/s800/fakebanner.png 

Putting the banner inbetween the Logout-Help-Home buttons and the BMC
banner would certainly require more effort than this and is maybe the
solution you were looking for instead.

If the sole intention is displaying a banner at the top of the page, it
might be a quicker way than messing with iframes, and even when new
windows open you would still see the banner.

Jill

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Keeping Mid Tier in a framed web page

2011-02-10 Thread Reiser, John J
Hello Listers,
ARS 7.6.03
Mid Tier 7.6.03
Tomcat 5.5.17

I have a request from a customer to help them configure the Mid Tier so it 
stays in the frame in which it was opened. They call it iFrame but I'm not 
familiar with it.
Is there a configuration setting that will prevent the Mid Tier from opening in 
a new window OR is that a function of how they call Mid Tier from iFrame?

Thanks,
---
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Remedy Developer/Administrator
Senior Software Development Analyst
Lockheed Martin - MS2
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Re: Keeping Mid Tier in a framed web page

2011-02-10 Thread Easter, David
Hi John,

  I believe what you are asking for was introduced in the ITSM 7.6.04 Suite.  
From the What's New section of the release notes:

21-Jan-2011BMC Software is releasing version 7.6.04 of the BMC Remedy 
IT Service Management suite.   
PDFhttp://documents.bmc.com/supportu/documents/42/74/174274/174274.pdf

To improve overall system performance, most consoles and forms now open inside 
a single view area, instead of in individual windows.

In other words, when drilling down from a console, the drill down is opened in 
the same browser window without opening up a new window or tab.

-David J. Easter
Manager of Product Management, Remedy Platform
BMC Software, Inc.

The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed in this 
E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc.  My voluntary 
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liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software, Inc.

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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Reiser, John J
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 10:31 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Keeping Mid Tier in a framed web page

**
Hello Listers,
ARS 7.6.03
Mid Tier 7.6.03
Tomcat 5.5.17

I have a request from a customer to help them configure the Mid Tier so it 
stays in the frame in which it was opened. They call it iFrame but I'm not 
familiar with it.
Is there a configuration setting that will prevent the Mid Tier from opening in 
a new window OR is that a function of how they call Mid Tier from iFrame?

Thanks,
---
John J. Reiser
Remedy Developer/Administrator
Senior Software Development Analyst
Lockheed Martin - MS2
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Pay close attention and be illuminated by its brilliance. - paraphrased by me

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Re: Keeping Mid Tier in a framed web page

2011-02-10 Thread patrick zandi
That it does do.. Most Consles and forms now open inside the single view
area (if you select the shift key when selecting it pops vice inside).

Somethings to note:
User tool is useless -- I mean Really!
System moderately to heavily dependent upon Flash
User tool is useless -- did I say that yet.

Found a bug in SRM requests: will log a ticket (have not yet) on Linux stack
but NOT on windows stack
 -- Cannot cancel your own created SRM -- Permissions error (have not even
had time to look at)

That is all I have seen so far.
Linux appears slower than the windows? unsure why?

have a great day

On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Easter, David david_eas...@bmc.com wrote:

 **

 Hi John,



   I believe what you are asking for was introduced in the ITSM 7.6.04
 Suite.  From the “What’s New” section of the release notes:



 21-Jan-2011BMC Software is releasing version 7.6.04 of the BMC
 Remedy IT Service Management suite.   
 PDFhttp://documents.bmc.com/supportu/documents/42/74/174274/174274.pdf



 *“To improve overall system performance, most consoles and forms now open
 inside a single view area, instead of in individual windows.”*



 In other words, when drilling down from a console, the drill down is opened
 in the same browser window without opening up a new window or tab.



 -David J. Easter

 Manager of Product Management, Remedy Platform

 BMC Software, Inc.



 The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed in
 this E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc.  My
 voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a
 spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software,
 Inc.



 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Reiser, John J
 *Sent:* Thursday, February 10, 2011 10:31 AM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Keeping Mid Tier in a framed web page



 **

 Hello Listers,

 ARS 7.6.03

 Mid Tier 7.6.03

 Tomcat 5.5.17



 I have a request from a customer to help them configure the Mid Tier so it
 stays in the frame in which it was opened. They call it iFrame but I’m not
 familiar with it.

 Is there a configuration setting that will prevent the Mid Tier from
 opening in a new window OR is that a function of how they call Mid Tier from
 iFrame?



 Thanks,

 ---
 John J. Reiser
 Remedy Developer/Administrator

 Senior Software Development Analyst
 Lockheed Martin - MS2
 The star that burns twice as bright burns half as long.
 Pay close attention and be illuminated by its brilliance. - paraphrased by
 me



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Re: Keeping Mid Tier in a framed web page

2011-02-10 Thread patrick zandi
Forgot, appears more 508 compliant than in the past...

On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 3:48 PM, patrick zandi remedy...@gmail.com wrote:

 That it does do.. Most Consles and forms now open inside the single view
 area (if you select the shift key when selecting it pops vice inside).

 Somethings to note:
 User tool is useless -- I mean Really!
 System moderately to heavily dependent upon Flash
 User tool is useless -- did I say that yet.

 Found a bug in SRM requests: will log a ticket (have not yet) on Linux
 stack but NOT on windows stack
  -- Cannot cancel your own created SRM -- Permissions error (have not even
 had time to look at)

 That is all I have seen so far.
 Linux appears slower than the windows? unsure why?

 have a great day


 On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Easter, David david_eas...@bmc.comwrote:

 **

 Hi John,



   I believe what you are asking for was introduced in the ITSM 7.6.04
 Suite.  From the “What’s New” section of the release notes:



 21-Jan-2011BMC Software is releasing version 7.6.04 of the BMC
 Remedy IT Service Management suite.   
 PDFhttp://documents.bmc.com/supportu/documents/42/74/174274/174274.pdf



 *“To improve overall system performance, most consoles and forms now open
 inside a single view area, instead of in individual windows.”*



 In other words, when drilling down from a console, the drill down is
 opened in the same browser window without opening up a new window or tab.



 -David J. Easter

 Manager of Product Management, Remedy Platform

 BMC Software, Inc.



 The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed in
 this E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc.  My
 voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a
 spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software,
 Inc.



 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Reiser, John J
 *Sent:* Thursday, February 10, 2011 10:31 AM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Keeping Mid Tier in a framed web page



 **

 Hello Listers,

 ARS 7.6.03

 Mid Tier 7.6.03

 Tomcat 5.5.17



 I have a request from a customer to help them configure the Mid Tier so it
 stays in the frame in which it was opened. They call it iFrame but I’m not
 familiar with it.

 Is there a configuration setting that will prevent the Mid Tier from
 opening in a new window OR is that a function of how they call Mid Tier from
 iFrame?



 Thanks,

 ---
 John J. Reiser
 Remedy Developer/Administrator

 Senior Software Development Analyst
 Lockheed Martin - MS2
 The star that burns twice as bright burns half as long.
 Pay close attention and be illuminated by its brilliance. - paraphrased by
 me



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 --
 Patrick Zandi




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Re: Keeping Mid Tier in a framed web page

2011-02-10 Thread Reiser, John J
David,
Actually it's one step higher than that.
They are accessing Mid Tier from a portal and they want it confined to the 
frame in which it was called.
We don't have ITSM here, they are calling a custom built form.
I'll look into it but I don't know how soon I can get to do the .04 upgrade.
I'm still having issues with 7.6.03 and the plugin server.

Thanks,

---
John J. Reiser
Remedy Developer/Administrator
Senior Software Development Analyst
Lockheed Martin - MS2
The star that burns twice as bright burns half as long.
Pay close attention and be illuminated by its brilliance. - paraphrased by me

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Easter, David
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 3:21 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: Keeping Mid Tier in a framed web page

**
Hi John,

  I believe what you are asking for was introduced in the ITSM 7.6.04 Suite.  
From the What's New section of the release notes:

21-Jan-2011BMC Software is releasing version 7.6.04 of the BMC Remedy 
IT Service Management suite.   
PDFhttp://documents.bmc.com/supportu/documents/42/74/174274/174274.pdf

To improve overall system performance, most consoles and forms now open inside 
a single view area, instead of in individual windows.

In other words, when drilling down from a console, the drill down is opened in 
the same browser window without opening up a new window or tab.

-David J. Easter
Manager of Product Management, Remedy Platform
BMC Software, Inc.

The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed in this 
E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc.  My voluntary 
participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a spokesperson, 
liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software, Inc.

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Reiser, John J
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 10:31 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Keeping Mid Tier in a framed web page

**
Hello Listers,
ARS 7.6.03
Mid Tier 7.6.03
Tomcat 5.5.17

I have a request from a customer to help them configure the Mid Tier so it 
stays in the frame in which it was opened. They call it iFrame but I'm not 
familiar with it.
Is there a configuration setting that will prevent the Mid Tier from opening in 
a new window OR is that a function of how they call Mid Tier from iFrame?

Thanks,
---
John J. Reiser
Remedy Developer/Administrator
Senior Software Development Analyst
Lockheed Martin - MS2
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Pay close attention and be illuminated by its brilliance. - paraphrased by me

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Re: Keeping Mid Tier in a framed web page

2011-02-10 Thread Pierson, Shawn
If that is the case, then whoever supports that application should look for any 
Open Window actions on their Active Links as well as Table Fields, because that 
would be where the new windows are coming from.  Additionally, I would assume 
they are bypassing the Home Page to go directly to whatever screen they are 
trying to get to, but if not that would be another potential area to look for a 
pop-up window.

Thanks,

Shawn Pierson
Remedy Developer | Southern Union

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Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 2:59 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Keeping Mid Tier in a framed web page

**
David,
Actually it's one step higher than that.
They are accessing Mid Tier from a portal and they want it confined to the 
frame in which it was called.
We don't have ITSM here, they are calling a custom built form.
I'll look into it but I don't know how soon I can get to do the .04 upgrade.
I'm still having issues with 7.6.03 and the plugin server.

Thanks,

---
John J. Reiser
Remedy Developer/Administrator
Senior Software Development Analyst
Lockheed Martin - MS2
The star that burns twice as bright burns half as long.
Pay close attention and be illuminated by its brilliance. - paraphrased by me

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Easter, David
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 3:21 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: Keeping Mid Tier in a framed web page

**
Hi John,

  I believe what you are asking for was introduced in the ITSM 7.6.04 Suite.  
From the What's New section of the release notes:

21-Jan-2011BMC Software is releasing version 7.6.04 of the BMC Remedy 
IT Service Management suite.   
PDFhttp://documents.bmc.com/supportu/documents/42/74/174274/174274.pdf

To improve overall system performance, most consoles and forms now open inside 
a single view area, instead of in individual windows.

In other words, when drilling down from a console, the drill down is opened in 
the same browser window without opening up a new window or tab.

-David J. Easter
Manager of Product Management, Remedy Platform
BMC Software, Inc.

The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed in this 
E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc.  My voluntary 
participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a spokesperson, 
liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software, Inc.

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Reiser, John J
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 10:31 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Keeping Mid Tier in a framed web page

**
Hello Listers,
ARS 7.6.03
Mid Tier 7.6.03
Tomcat 5.5.17

I have a request from a customer to help them configure the Mid Tier so it 
stays in the frame in which it was opened. They call it iFrame but I'm not 
familiar with it.
Is there a configuration setting that will prevent the Mid Tier from opening in 
a new window OR is that a function of how they call Mid Tier from iFrame?

Thanks,
---
John J. Reiser
Remedy Developer/Administrator
Senior Software Development Analyst
Lockheed Martin - MS2
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Re: Keeping Mid Tier in a framed web page

2011-02-10 Thread Luttmann, Michael W Mr CTR DISA CD553
I wonder if this is similar to a recent request I got. My military/DoD
customer wants to add For Official Use Only banners to ALL ITSM forms
(and consoles) on the M-T client.  This cannot be done by modifying the
CSS.  The only thing I can think of is modifying the background on EVERY
form.

Is there a better way?

(ARS / ITSM 7.1)

Mike Luttmann
Remedy Engineer


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Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 1:59 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Keeping Mid Tier in a framed web page

** 

David,

Actually it's one step higher than that.

They are accessing Mid Tier from a portal and they want it confined to
the frame in which it was called.

We don't have ITSM here, they are calling a custom built form.

I'll look into it but I don't know how soon I can get to do the .04
upgrade.

I'm still having issues with 7.6.03 and the plugin server.

 

Thanks,

 

--- 
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Remedy Developer/Administrator 

Senior Software Development Analyst 
Lockheed Martin - MS2 
The star that burns twice as bright burns half as long. 
Pay close attention and be illuminated by its brilliance. - paraphrased
by me 

 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Easter, David
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 3:21 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: Keeping Mid Tier in a framed web page

 

** 

Hi John,

 

  I believe what you are asking for was introduced in the ITSM 7.6.04
Suite.  From the What's New section of the release notes:

 

21-Jan-2011BMC Software is releasing version 7.6.04 of the BMC
Remedy IT Service Management suite.   PDF
blockedhttp://documents.bmc.com/supportu/documents/42/74/174274/174274.
pdf 

 

To improve overall system performance, most consoles and forms now open
inside a single view area, instead of in individual windows.

 

In other words, when drilling down from a console, the drill down is
opened in the same browser window without opening up a new window or
tab. 

 

-David J. Easter

Manager of Product Management, Remedy Platform

BMC Software, Inc.

 

The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed
in this E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc.
My voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a
role as a spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for
BMC Software, Inc.

 

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To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Keeping Mid Tier in a framed web page

 

** 

Hello Listers,

ARS 7.6.03

Mid Tier 7.6.03

Tomcat 5.5.17

 

I have a request from a customer to help them configure the Mid Tier so
it stays in the frame in which it was opened. They call it iFrame but
I'm not familiar with it.

Is there a configuration setting that will prevent the Mid Tier from
opening in a new window OR is that a function of how they call Mid Tier
from iFrame?

 

Thanks,

--- 
John J. Reiser 
Remedy Developer/Administrator 

Senior Software Development Analyst 
Lockheed Martin - MS2 
The star that burns twice as bright burns half as long. 
Pay close attention and be illuminated by its brilliance. - paraphrased
by me 

 

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Re: Keeping Mid Tier in a framed web page

2011-02-10 Thread Reiser, John J
You could use the web header on a specific view and call that view for Mid Tier 
access.
Or you could alter the background image in ITSM (is there one?)  

--- 
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Remedy Developer/Administrator 
Senior Software Development Analyst 
Lockheed Martin - MS2 
The star that burns twice as bright burns half as long. 
Pay close attention and be illuminated by its brilliance. - paraphrased by me 

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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Luttmann, Michael W Mr CTR DISA CD553
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 5:26 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: Keeping Mid Tier in a framed web page

I wonder if this is similar to a recent request I got. My military/DoD
customer wants to add For Official Use Only banners to ALL ITSM forms
(and consoles) on the M-T client.  This cannot be done by modifying the
CSS.  The only thing I can think of is modifying the background on EVERY
form.

Is there a better way?

(ARS / ITSM 7.1)

Mike Luttmann
Remedy Engineer


-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Reiser, John J
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 1:59 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Keeping Mid Tier in a framed web page

** 

David,

Actually it's one step higher than that.

They are accessing Mid Tier from a portal and they want it confined to
the frame in which it was called.

We don't have ITSM here, they are calling a custom built form.

I'll look into it but I don't know how soon I can get to do the .04
upgrade.

I'm still having issues with 7.6.03 and the plugin server.

 

Thanks,

 

--- 
John J. Reiser 
Remedy Developer/Administrator 

Senior Software Development Analyst 
Lockheed Martin - MS2 
The star that burns twice as bright burns half as long. 
Pay close attention and be illuminated by its brilliance. - paraphrased
by me 

 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Easter, David
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 3:21 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: Keeping Mid Tier in a framed web page

 

** 

Hi John,

 

  I believe what you are asking for was introduced in the ITSM 7.6.04
Suite.  From the What's New section of the release notes:

 

21-Jan-2011BMC Software is releasing version 7.6.04 of the BMC
Remedy IT Service Management suite.   PDF
blockedhttp://documents.bmc.com/supportu/documents/42/74/174274/174274.
pdf 

 

To improve overall system performance, most consoles and forms now open
inside a single view area, instead of in individual windows.

 

In other words, when drilling down from a console, the drill down is
opened in the same browser window without opening up a new window or
tab. 

 

-David J. Easter

Manager of Product Management, Remedy Platform

BMC Software, Inc.

 

The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed
in this E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc.
My voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a
role as a spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for
BMC Software, Inc.

 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Reiser, John J
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 10:31 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Keeping Mid Tier in a framed web page

 

** 

Hello Listers,

ARS 7.6.03

Mid Tier 7.6.03

Tomcat 5.5.17

 

I have a request from a customer to help them configure the Mid Tier so
it stays in the frame in which it was opened. They call it iFrame but
I'm not familiar with it.

Is there a configuration setting that will prevent the Mid Tier from
opening in a new window OR is that a function of how they call Mid Tier
from iFrame?

 

Thanks,

--- 
John J. Reiser 
Remedy Developer/Administrator 

Senior Software Development Analyst 
Lockheed Martin - MS2 
The star that burns twice as bright burns half as long. 
Pay close attention and be illuminated by its brilliance. - paraphrased
by me 

 

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Re: Keeping Mid Tier in a framed web page

2011-02-10 Thread Luttmann, Michael W Mr CTR DISA CD553
Yup... Those are the two options I came up with as well.  Unfortunately,
neither one is global.  Both require modification of dozens of forms.


Mike Luttmann
Remedy Engineer

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Reiser, John J
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 4:10 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Keeping Mid Tier in a framed web page

You could use the web header on a specific view and call that view for
Mid Tier access.
Or you could alter the background image in ITSM (is there one?)  

--- 
John J. Reiser 
Remedy Developer/Administrator 
Senior Software Development Analyst 
Lockheed Martin - MS2 
The star that burns twice as bright burns half as long. 
Pay close attention and be illuminated by its brilliance. - paraphrased
by me 

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Luttmann, Michael W Mr CTR
DISA CD553
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 5:26 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: Keeping Mid Tier in a framed web page

I wonder if this is similar to a recent request I got. My military/DoD
customer wants to add For Official Use Only banners to ALL ITSM forms
(and consoles) on the M-T client.  This cannot be done by modifying the
CSS.  The only thing I can think of is modifying the background on EVERY
form.

Is there a better way?

(ARS / ITSM 7.1)

Mike Luttmann
Remedy Engineer


-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Reiser, John J
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 1:59 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Keeping Mid Tier in a framed web page

** 

David,

Actually it's one step higher than that.

They are accessing Mid Tier from a portal and they want it confined to
the frame in which it was called.

We don't have ITSM here, they are calling a custom built form.

I'll look into it but I don't know how soon I can get to do the .04
upgrade.

I'm still having issues with 7.6.03 and the plugin server.

 

Thanks,

 

--- 
John J. Reiser 
Remedy Developer/Administrator 

Senior Software Development Analyst 
Lockheed Martin - MS2 
The star that burns twice as bright burns half as long. 
Pay close attention and be illuminated by its brilliance. - paraphrased
by me 

 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Easter, David
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 3:21 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: Keeping Mid Tier in a framed web page

 

** 

Hi John,

 

  I believe what you are asking for was introduced in the ITSM 7.6.04
Suite.  From the What's New section of the release notes:

 

21-Jan-2011BMC Software is releasing version 7.6.04 of the BMC
Remedy IT Service Management suite.   PDF
blockedhttp://documents.bmc.com/supportu/documents/42/74/174274/174274.
pdf 

 

To improve overall system performance, most consoles and forms now open
inside a single view area, instead of in individual windows.

 

In other words, when drilling down from a console, the drill down is
opened in the same browser window without opening up a new window or
tab. 

 

-David J. Easter

Manager of Product Management, Remedy Platform

BMC Software, Inc.

 

The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed
in this E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc.
My voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a
role as a spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for
BMC Software, Inc.

 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Reiser, John J
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 10:31 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Keeping Mid Tier in a framed web page

 

** 

Hello Listers,

ARS 7.6.03

Mid Tier 7.6.03

Tomcat 5.5.17

 

I have a request from a customer to help them configure the Mid Tier so
it stays in the frame in which it was opened. They call it iFrame but
I'm not familiar with it.

Is there a configuration setting that will prevent the Mid Tier from
opening in a new window OR is that a function of how they call Mid Tier
from iFrame?

 

Thanks,

--- 
John J. Reiser 
Remedy Developer/Administrator 

Senior Software Development Analyst 
Lockheed Martin - MS2 
The star that burns twice as bright burns half as long. 
Pay close attention and be illuminated by its brilliance. - paraphrased
by me 

 

_attend WWRUG11 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: Where the Answers Are_ 

_attend WWRUG11 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: Where the Answers Are_ 

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Re: Keeping Mid Tier in a framed web page

2011-02-10 Thread Craig Carter
We run all of our content in iFrames and it does exactly what you describe.  
You define your wrapper pages with your disclaimers and consistent look and 
feel and then embed iFrames within the pages of the appropriate size to house 
the forms (make sure your iFrame is a little larger than your saved form to 
prevent internal scroll bars in the iFrame).  You then simply provide the 
midtier URL to the iFrame (you can use ViewFormServlet or JSP redirect files) 
to render the Remedy content. Using field value parameters in ViewFormServlet 
and JSP files allows you to pass in initialization values, etc, as needed.

If you want to stay within an iFrame, simply use current in your Window Open 
active links versus new and the new form will replace the existing iFrame 
content.  Make sure you are using the mode parameter to set submit (if you want 
initialization items to fire) and you can optionally pass in a restricted-read 
login allowing multiple people to access and submit from that same page at the 
same time.

You then give your customers the URL for the wrapper page and when they open 
the page, the iFrame loads the Remedy content automatically.  Actions within 
the Remedy area can open a new form within that same iFrame using current...

We're not on v7.6 yet so I can't speak to the enhancements there.  We're also 
not running ITSM so I don't know if ITSM would step outside the iFrame (depends 
primarily on how it's designed).  You generally want your popup messages, etc, 
to render and close while leaving your iFrame primary form present and that 
also works.  None of this is free and there is no magic setting I'm aware of 
but I wanted to chime in on the use of iFrames and the fact it will work if you 
put forth the effort to set it up that way.

You could create one web page pretty easily and call ITSM within the iFrame and 
see what happens.

Craig Carter
Information Technology Manager, RSP

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Luttmann, Michael W Mr CTR DISA CD553
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 3:26 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Keeping Mid Tier in a framed web page

I wonder if this is similar to a recent request I got. My military/DoD
customer wants to add For Official Use Only banners to ALL ITSM forms
(and consoles) on the M-T client.  This cannot be done by modifying the
CSS.  The only thing I can think of is modifying the background on EVERY
form.

Is there a better way?

(ARS / ITSM 7.1)

Mike Luttmann
Remedy Engineer


-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Reiser, John J
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 1:59 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Keeping Mid Tier in a framed web page

** 

David,

Actually it's one step higher than that.

They are accessing Mid Tier from a portal and they want it confined to
the frame in which it was called.

We don't have ITSM here, they are calling a custom built form.

I'll look into it but I don't know how soon I can get to do the .04
upgrade.

I'm still having issues with 7.6.03 and the plugin server.

 

Thanks,

 

--- 
John J. Reiser 
Remedy Developer/Administrator 

Senior Software Development Analyst 
Lockheed Martin - MS2 
The star that burns twice as bright burns half as long. 
Pay close attention and be illuminated by its brilliance. - paraphrased
by me 

 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Easter, David
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 3:21 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: Keeping Mid Tier in a framed web page

 

** 

Hi John,

 

  I believe what you are asking for was introduced in the ITSM 7.6.04
Suite.  From the What's New section of the release notes:

 

21-Jan-2011BMC Software is releasing version 7.6.04 of the BMC
Remedy IT Service Management suite.   PDF
blockedhttp://documents.bmc.com/supportu/documents/42/74/174274/174274.
pdf 

 

To improve overall system performance, most consoles and forms now open
inside a single view area, instead of in individual windows.

 

In other words, when drilling down from a console, the drill down is
opened in the same browser window without opening up a new window or
tab. 

 

-David J. Easter

Manager of Product Management, Remedy Platform

BMC Software, Inc.

 

The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed
in this E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc.
My voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a
role as a spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for
BMC Software, Inc.

 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Reiser, John J
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 10:31 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Keeping Mid Tier in a framed web page

 

** 

Hello Listers,

ARS 7.6.03

Mid

Re: Keeping Mid Tier in a framed web page

2011-02-10 Thread Reiser, John J
Craig,
Thanks. I'm not using ITSM and there is no workflow yet that opens any forms. 
They have not demonstrated the condition to me yet so I'm not sure what they 
are actually doing when the pop out occurs. It's good to know that the Mid Tier 
will work well in iframes if a little forethought is used.


I will probably have to give them a minimal form view as I'm pretty sure their 
portal is cluttered with many iview frames and my ARS forms are usually set up 
for a full screen view.

Thad Esser sent me some info he read from David Easter about the new Mid tier 
supporting JSR-168 which would enable you to display forms as portlets within 
an external portal. So that's something to investigate too.

Thank again,

--- 
John J. Reiser 
Remedy Developer/Administrator 
Senior Software Development Analyst 
Lockheed Martin - MS2 
The star that burns twice as bright burns half as long. 
Pay close attention and be illuminated by its brilliance. - paraphrased by me 


-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Craig Carter
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 6:34 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: Keeping Mid Tier in a framed web page

We run all of our content in iFrames and it does exactly what you describe.  
You define your wrapper pages with your disclaimers and consistent look and 
feel and then embed iFrames within the pages of the appropriate size to house 
the forms (make sure your iFrame is a little larger than your saved form to 
prevent internal scroll bars in the iFrame).  You then simply provide the 
midtier URL to the iFrame (you can use ViewFormServlet or JSP redirect files) 
to render the Remedy content. Using field value parameters in ViewFormServlet 
and JSP files allows you to pass in initialization values, etc, as needed.

If you want to stay within an iFrame, simply use current in your Window Open 
active links versus new and the new form will replace the existing iFrame 
content.  Make sure you are using the mode parameter to set submit (if you want 
initialization items to fire) and you can optionally pass in a restricted-read 
login allowing multiple people to access and submit from that same page at the 
same time.

You then give your customers the URL for the wrapper page and when they open 
the page, the iFrame loads the Remedy content automatically.  Actions within 
the Remedy area can open a new form within that same iFrame using current...

We're not on v7.6 yet so I can't speak to the enhancements there.  We're also 
not running ITSM so I don't know if ITSM would step outside the iFrame (depends 
primarily on how it's designed).  You generally want your popup messages, etc, 
to render and close while leaving your iFrame primary form present and that 
also works.  None of this is free and there is no magic setting I'm aware of 
but I wanted to chime in on the use of iFrames and the fact it will work if you 
put forth the effort to set it up that way.

You could create one web page pretty easily and call ITSM within the iFrame and 
see what happens.

Craig Carter
Information Technology Manager, RSP

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Luttmann, Michael W Mr CTR DISA CD553
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 3:26 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Keeping Mid Tier in a framed web page

I wonder if this is similar to a recent request I got. My military/DoD
customer wants to add For Official Use Only banners to ALL ITSM forms
(and consoles) on the M-T client.  This cannot be done by modifying the
CSS.  The only thing I can think of is modifying the background on EVERY
form.

Is there a better way?

(ARS / ITSM 7.1)

Mike Luttmann
Remedy Engineer


-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Reiser, John J
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 1:59 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Keeping Mid Tier in a framed web page

** 

David,

Actually it's one step higher than that.

They are accessing Mid Tier from a portal and they want it confined to
the frame in which it was called.

We don't have ITSM here, they are calling a custom built form.

I'll look into it but I don't know how soon I can get to do the .04
upgrade.

I'm still having issues with 7.6.03 and the plugin server.

 

Thanks,

 

--- 
John J. Reiser 
Remedy Developer/Administrator 

Senior Software Development Analyst 
Lockheed Martin - MS2 
The star that burns twice as bright burns half as long. 
Pay close attention and be illuminated by its brilliance. - paraphrased
by me 

 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Easter, David
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 3:21 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: Keeping Mid Tier in a framed web page

 

** 

Hi John,

 

  I believe what you are asking

Re: Keeping Mid Tier in a framed web page

2011-02-10 Thread Easter, David
AR System has supported JSR-168 since version 7.0.01...  It's not new. ;-)

-David J. Easter
Manager of Product Management, Remedy Platform
BMC Software, Inc.
 
The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed in this 
E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc.  My voluntary 
participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a spokesperson, 
liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software, Inc.

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Reiser, John J
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 03:59 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Keeping Mid Tier in a framed web page

Craig,
Thanks. I'm not using ITSM and there is no workflow yet that opens any forms. 
They have not demonstrated the condition to me yet so I'm not sure what they 
are actually doing when the pop out occurs. It's good to know that the Mid Tier 
will work well in iframes if a little forethought is used.


I will probably have to give them a minimal form view as I'm pretty sure their 
portal is cluttered with many iview frames and my ARS forms are usually set up 
for a full screen view.

Thad Esser sent me some info he read from David Easter about the new Mid tier 
supporting JSR-168 which would enable you to display forms as portlets within 
an external portal. So that's something to investigate too.

Thank again,

--- 
John J. Reiser 
Remedy Developer/Administrator 
Senior Software Development Analyst 
Lockheed Martin - MS2 
The star that burns twice as bright burns half as long. 
Pay close attention and be illuminated by its brilliance. - paraphrased by me 


-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Craig Carter
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 6:34 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: Keeping Mid Tier in a framed web page

We run all of our content in iFrames and it does exactly what you describe.  
You define your wrapper pages with your disclaimers and consistent look and 
feel and then embed iFrames within the pages of the appropriate size to house 
the forms (make sure your iFrame is a little larger than your saved form to 
prevent internal scroll bars in the iFrame).  You then simply provide the 
midtier URL to the iFrame (you can use ViewFormServlet or JSP redirect files) 
to render the Remedy content. Using field value parameters in ViewFormServlet 
and JSP files allows you to pass in initialization values, etc, as needed.

If you want to stay within an iFrame, simply use current in your Window Open 
active links versus new and the new form will replace the existing iFrame 
content.  Make sure you are using the mode parameter to set submit (if you want 
initialization items to fire) and you can optionally pass in a restricted-read 
login allowing multiple people to access and submit from that same page at the 
same time.

You then give your customers the URL for the wrapper page and when they open 
the page, the iFrame loads the Remedy content automatically.  Actions within 
the Remedy area can open a new form within that same iFrame using current...

We're not on v7.6 yet so I can't speak to the enhancements there.  We're also 
not running ITSM so I don't know if ITSM would step outside the iFrame (depends 
primarily on how it's designed).  You generally want your popup messages, etc, 
to render and close while leaving your iFrame primary form present and that 
also works.  None of this is free and there is no magic setting I'm aware of 
but I wanted to chime in on the use of iFrames and the fact it will work if you 
put forth the effort to set it up that way.

You could create one web page pretty easily and call ITSM within the iFrame and 
see what happens.

Craig Carter
Information Technology Manager, RSP

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Luttmann, Michael W Mr CTR DISA CD553
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 3:26 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Keeping Mid Tier in a framed web page

I wonder if this is similar to a recent request I got. My military/DoD
customer wants to add For Official Use Only banners to ALL ITSM forms
(and consoles) on the M-T client.  This cannot be done by modifying the
CSS.  The only thing I can think of is modifying the background on EVERY
form.

Is there a better way?

(ARS / ITSM 7.1)

Mike Luttmann
Remedy Engineer


-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Reiser, John J
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 1:59 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Keeping Mid Tier in a framed web page

** 

David,

Actually it's one step higher than that.

They are accessing Mid Tier from a portal and they want it confined to
the frame in which it was called.

We don't have ITSM here, they are calling

Re: Keeping Mid Tier in a framed web page

2011-02-10 Thread John Sundberg
Hey John,

An iFrame is an HTML concept. Basically 

html
head

pblah blah blah/p

iFrame src=http://www.google.com/iFrame

pblah blah blah/p



/html

(It is a way to embed one web page into another (sort of))


Anyways -- your customer sounds like they have a specific concept or 
look/behavior in mind. You may be interested in Kinetic Request -- it is a 
totally different approach to displaying Remedy data to the web. We can do 
ANYTHING the web can do. Also -- Kinetic Request works against 7.6.4 all the 
way back to ARS 6.0 -- so you would not need to upgrade anything in order to 
take advantage of what Kinetic does. You could start building what the customer 
needs -- vs building an upgrade project.


Let me know if interested.


Thanks -- and have fun!!!




-John



On Feb 10, 2011, at 1:31 PM, Reiser, John J wrote:

**
Hello Listers,

ARS 7.6.03

Mid Tier 7.6.03

Tomcat 5.5.17

 

I have a request from a customer to help them configure the Mid Tier so it 
stays in the frame in which it was opened. They call it iFrame but I’m not 
familiar with it.

Is there a configuration setting that will prevent the Mid Tier from opening in 
a new window OR is that a function of how they call Mid Tier from iFrame?

 

Thanks,

--- 
John J. Reiser 
Remedy Developer/Administrator

Senior Software Development Analyst 
Lockheed Martin - MS2 
The star that burns twice as bright burns half as long. 
Pay close attention and be illuminated by its brilliance. - paraphrased by me

 

_attend WWRUG11 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: Where the Answers Are_

--
John Sundberg

Kinetic Data, Inc.
Building a Better Service Experience
Recipient of:
WWRUG10 Best Customer Service/Support Award
WWRUG09 Innovator of the Year Award

john.sundb...@kineticdata.com
651.556.0930  I  www.kineticdata.com










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Re: Keeping Mid Tier in a framed web page

2011-02-10 Thread Reiser, John J
David,
Is information about this non-new feature documented in the Mid Tier manual or 
is it a white paper?
Which should be starting to yellow since it's getting old. };^

--- 
John J. Reiser 
Remedy Developer/Administrator 
Senior Software Development Analyst 
Lockheed Martin - MS2 
The star that burns twice as bright burns half as long. 
Pay close attention and be illuminated by its brilliance. - paraphrased by me 


-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Easter, David
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 7:03 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: Keeping Mid Tier in a framed web page

AR System has supported JSR-168 since version 7.0.01...  It's not new. ;-)

-David J. Easter
Manager of Product Management, Remedy Platform
BMC Software, Inc.
 
The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed in this 
E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc.  My voluntary 
participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a spokesperson, 
liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software, Inc.

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Reiser, John J
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 03:59 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Keeping Mid Tier in a framed web page

Craig,
Thanks. I'm not using ITSM and there is no workflow yet that opens any forms. 
They have not demonstrated the condition to me yet so I'm not sure what they 
are actually doing when the pop out occurs. It's good to know that the Mid Tier 
will work well in iframes if a little forethought is used.


I will probably have to give them a minimal form view as I'm pretty sure their 
portal is cluttered with many iview frames and my ARS forms are usually set up 
for a full screen view.

Thad Esser sent me some info he read from David Easter about the new Mid tier 
supporting JSR-168 which would enable you to display forms as portlets within 
an external portal. So that's something to investigate too.

Thank again,

--- 
John J. Reiser 
Remedy Developer/Administrator 
Senior Software Development Analyst 
Lockheed Martin - MS2 
The star that burns twice as bright burns half as long. 
Pay close attention and be illuminated by its brilliance. - paraphrased by me 


-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Craig Carter
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 6:34 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: Keeping Mid Tier in a framed web page

We run all of our content in iFrames and it does exactly what you describe.  
You define your wrapper pages with your disclaimers and consistent look and 
feel and then embed iFrames within the pages of the appropriate size to house 
the forms (make sure your iFrame is a little larger than your saved form to 
prevent internal scroll bars in the iFrame).  You then simply provide the 
midtier URL to the iFrame (you can use ViewFormServlet or JSP redirect files) 
to render the Remedy content. Using field value parameters in ViewFormServlet 
and JSP files allows you to pass in initialization values, etc, as needed.

If you want to stay within an iFrame, simply use current in your Window Open 
active links versus new and the new form will replace the existing iFrame 
content.  Make sure you are using the mode parameter to set submit (if you want 
initialization items to fire) and you can optionally pass in a restricted-read 
login allowing multiple people to access and submit from that same page at the 
same time.

You then give your customers the URL for the wrapper page and when they open 
the page, the iFrame loads the Remedy content automatically.  Actions within 
the Remedy area can open a new form within that same iFrame using current...

We're not on v7.6 yet so I can't speak to the enhancements there.  We're also 
not running ITSM so I don't know if ITSM would step outside the iFrame (depends 
primarily on how it's designed).  You generally want your popup messages, etc, 
to render and close while leaving your iFrame primary form present and that 
also works.  None of this is free and there is no magic setting I'm aware of 
but I wanted to chime in on the use of iFrames and the fact it will work if you 
put forth the effort to set it up that way.

You could create one web page pretty easily and call ITSM within the iFrame and 
see what happens.

Craig Carter
Information Technology Manager, RSP

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Luttmann, Michael W Mr CTR DISA CD553
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 3:26 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Keeping Mid Tier in a framed web page

I wonder if this is similar to a recent request I got. My military/DoD
customer wants to add For Official Use Only banners to ALL ITSM

Re: Keeping Mid Tier in a framed web page

2011-02-10 Thread Easter, David
14-Oct-2006 Displaying an AR System Form in a Portlet
http://www.bmc.com/supportu/documents/56/86/65686/65686.pdf


-David J. Easter
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BMC Software, Inc.
 
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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Reiser, John J
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 04:11 PM
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Subject: Re: Keeping Mid Tier in a framed web page

David,
Is information about this non-new feature documented in the Mid Tier manual or 
is it a white paper?
Which should be starting to yellow since it's getting old. };^

--- 
John J. Reiser 
Remedy Developer/Administrator 
Senior Software Development Analyst 
Lockheed Martin - MS2 
The star that burns twice as bright burns half as long. 
Pay close attention and be illuminated by its brilliance. - paraphrased by me 


-Original Message-
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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Easter, David
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 7:03 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: Keeping Mid Tier in a framed web page

AR System has supported JSR-168 since version 7.0.01...  It's not new. ;-)

-David J. Easter
Manager of Product Management, Remedy Platform
BMC Software, Inc.
 
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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Reiser, John J
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 03:59 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Keeping Mid Tier in a framed web page

Craig,
Thanks. I'm not using ITSM and there is no workflow yet that opens any forms. 
They have not demonstrated the condition to me yet so I'm not sure what they 
are actually doing when the pop out occurs. It's good to know that the Mid Tier 
will work well in iframes if a little forethought is used.


I will probably have to give them a minimal form view as I'm pretty sure their 
portal is cluttered with many iview frames and my ARS forms are usually set up 
for a full screen view.

Thad Esser sent me some info he read from David Easter about the new Mid tier 
supporting JSR-168 which would enable you to display forms as portlets within 
an external portal. So that's something to investigate too.

Thank again,

--- 
John J. Reiser 
Remedy Developer/Administrator 
Senior Software Development Analyst 
Lockheed Martin - MS2 
The star that burns twice as bright burns half as long. 
Pay close attention and be illuminated by its brilliance. - paraphrased by me 


-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Craig Carter
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 6:34 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: Keeping Mid Tier in a framed web page

We run all of our content in iFrames and it does exactly what you describe.  
You define your wrapper pages with your disclaimers and consistent look and 
feel and then embed iFrames within the pages of the appropriate size to house 
the forms (make sure your iFrame is a little larger than your saved form to 
prevent internal scroll bars in the iFrame).  You then simply provide the 
midtier URL to the iFrame (you can use ViewFormServlet or JSP redirect files) 
to render the Remedy content. Using field value parameters in ViewFormServlet 
and JSP files allows you to pass in initialization values, etc, as needed.

If you want to stay within an iFrame, simply use current in your Window Open 
active links versus new and the new form will replace the existing iFrame 
content.  Make sure you are using the mode parameter to set submit (if you want 
initialization items to fire) and you can optionally pass in a restricted-read 
login allowing multiple people to access and submit from that same page at the 
same time.

You then give your customers the URL for the wrapper page and when they open 
the page, the iFrame loads the Remedy content automatically.  Actions within 
the Remedy area can open a new form within that same iFrame using current...

We're not on v7.6 yet so I can't speak to the enhancements there.  We're also 
not running ITSM so I don't know if ITSM would step outside the iFrame (depends 
primarily on how it's designed).  You generally want your popup messages, etc, 
to render and close while leaving your iFrame primary form