Re: User AR_ESCALATOR

2010-06-04 Thread Kevin Begosh
yeah I found that filter and that was the peice of code I was going to add I
was just curious if someone else had seen this.  This process was custom
code that someone else here created but they are no longer here.  Thanks for
all the repsonses.

On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 2:32 PM, Maher, Jeff jma...@fas.harvard.edu wrote:

 **



 Hi Kevin, I had a similar issue, but it was actually caused somewhere in
 the process of upgrading to ITSM 7 patch 9 from patch 4. There was some new
 filter workflow added (or fixed so it actually did something) that now
 checks roles when creating new users, login id’s, etc. A little bit of
 logging and you can find the bugger that is missing ‘AND $USER$ !=
 “AR_ESCALATOR”’ in the qualification so your stuff will work again. However
 like Joe said, probably is a better choice to do something using the AIE. I
 didn’t really have that option in my scenario.



 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arsl...@arslist.org] *On Behalf Of *Kevin Begosh
 *Sent:* Thursday, June 03, 2010 1:42 PM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Re: User AR_ESCALATOR



 ** this was working with 7.1, we just upgraded to 7.5 and getting these
 messages now.  Good suggestion with the AIE though.

 On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Joe D'Souza jdso...@shyle.net wrote:

 **

 ITSM 7 has changed a few things as to what roles are required to create and
 maintain contact information.. The roles that you see have to be added to
 the user that creates or updates this information in the CTM:People form..



 Instead of using escalations to do what you are doing, I would suggest
 creating a regular AR User account that has all these roles, and other
 permissions needed, and use AIE to do the same thing you are doing.. I have
 done it that way and it works well.. You can schedule AIE to run the job
 just like you are using your Escalation.. Make sure you configure AIE to use
 the user that you have created..



 Joe

  -Original Message-
 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arsl...@arslist.org]*on Behalf Of *Kevin Begosh
 *Sent:* Thursday, June 03, 2010 1:27 PM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG

 *Subject:* User AR_ESCALATOR

 **

 I have a process and staging forms that pull employee data from a view form
 on remedy, send it to a staging form and then creates a people record if
 that ID does not exist on the people form.  Well it worked before and then
 we upgraded from 7.0 to 7.5 AR Server and now it is not working. We are
 getting the following error message



 You must have one of the following permissions to create a person with a
 login ID: 'Contact Organization Admin', 'Contact Support Admin'. (ARERR
 45530)



 and none of the profiles are being create.  Has something change with
 AR_ESCALATOR between 7.0 and 7.5?  Am I missing something?



 ARS 7.5 Patch 4

 ITSM 7.03 Patch 9

 CMDB 7.6 Patch 1

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Re: User AR_ESCALATOR

2010-06-03 Thread Joe D'Souza
ITSM 7 has changed a few things as to what roles are required to create and
maintain contact information.. The roles that you see have to be added to
the user that creates or updates this information in the CTM:People form..

Instead of using escalations to do what you are doing, I would suggest
creating a regular AR User account that has all these roles, and other
permissions needed, and use AIE to do the same thing you are doing.. I have
done it that way and it works well.. You can schedule AIE to run the job
just like you are using your Escalation.. Make sure you configure AIE to use
the user that you have created..

Joe
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  Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 1:27 PM
  To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
  Subject: User AR_ESCALATOR


  **
  I have a process and staging forms that pull employee data from a view
form on remedy, send it to a staging form and then creates a people record
if that ID does not exist on the people form.  Well it worked before and
then we upgraded from 7.0 to 7.5 AR Server and now it is not working. We are
getting the following error message

  You must have one of the following permissions to create a person with a
login ID: 'Contact Organization Admin', 'Contact Support Admin'. (ARERR
45530)

  and none of the profiles are being create.  Has something change with
AR_ESCALATOR between 7.0 and 7.5?  Am I missing something?

  ARS 7.5 Patch 4
  ITSM 7.03 Patch 9
  CMDB 7.6 Patch 1

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Re: User AR_ESCALATOR

2010-06-03 Thread Kevin Begosh
this was working with 7.1, we just upgraded to 7.5 and getting these
messages now.  Good suggestion with the AIE though.

On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Joe D'Souza jdso...@shyle.net wrote:

 **
 ITSM 7 has changed a few things as to what roles are required to create and
 maintain contact information.. The roles that you see have to be added to
 the user that creates or updates this information in the CTM:People form..

 Instead of using escalations to do what you are doing, I would suggest
 creating a regular AR User account that has all these roles, and other
 permissions needed, and use AIE to do the same thing you are doing.. I have
 done it that way and it works well.. You can schedule AIE to run the job
 just like you are using your Escalation.. Make sure you configure AIE to use
 the user that you have created..

 Joe

  -Original Message-
 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arsl...@arslist.org]*on Behalf Of *Kevin Begosh
 *Sent:* Thursday, June 03, 2010 1:27 PM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* User AR_ESCALATOR

  **
 I have a process and staging forms that pull employee data from a view form
 on remedy, send it to a staging form and then creates a people record if
 that ID does not exist on the people form.  Well it worked before and then
 we upgraded from 7.0 to 7.5 AR Server and now it is not working. We are
 getting the following error message

 You must have one of the following permissions to create a person with a
 login ID: 'Contact Organization Admin', 'Contact Support Admin'. (ARERR
 45530)

 and none of the profiles are being create.  Has something change with
 AR_ESCALATOR between 7.0 and 7.5?  Am I missing something?

 ARS 7.5 Patch 4
 ITSM 7.03 Patch 9
 CMDB 7.6 Patch 1

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Re: User AR_ESCALATOR

2010-06-03 Thread Maher, Jeff

Hi Kevin, I had a similar issue, but it was actually caused somewhere in the 
process of upgrading to ITSM 7 patch 9 from patch 4. There was some new filter 
workflow added (or fixed so it actually did something) that now checks roles 
when creating new users, login id's, etc. A little bit of logging and you can 
find the bugger that is missing 'AND $USER$ != AR_ESCALATOR' in the 
qualification so your stuff will work again. However like Joe said, probably is 
a better choice to do something using the AIE. I didn't really have that option 
in my scenario.

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Begosh
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 1:42 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: User AR_ESCALATOR

** this was working with 7.1, we just upgraded to 7.5 and getting these 
messages now.  Good suggestion with the AIE though.
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Joe D'Souza 
jdso...@shyle.netmailto:jdso...@shyle.net wrote:
**
ITSM 7 has changed a few things as to what roles are required to create and 
maintain contact information.. The roles that you see have to be added to the 
user that creates or updates this information in the CTM:People form..

Instead of using escalations to do what you are doing, I would suggest creating 
a regular AR User account that has all these roles, and other permissions 
needed, and use AIE to do the same thing you are doing.. I have done it that 
way and it works well.. You can schedule AIE to run the job just like you are 
using your Escalation.. Make sure you configure AIE to use the user that you 
have created..

Joe
-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG]On Behalf Of Kevin 
Begosh
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 1:27 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: User AR_ESCALATOR
**
I have a process and staging forms that pull employee data from a view form on 
remedy, send it to a staging form and then creates a people record if that ID 
does not exist on the people form.  Well it worked before and then we upgraded 
from 7.0 to 7.5 AR Server and now it is not working. We are getting the 
following error message

You must have one of the following permissions to create a person with a login 
ID: 'Contact Organization Admin', 'Contact Support Admin'. (ARERR 45530)

and none of the profiles are being create.  Has something change with 
AR_ESCALATOR between 7.0 and 7.5?  Am I missing something?

ARS 7.5 Patch 4
ITSM 7.03 Patch 9
CMDB 7.6 Patch 1

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Re: User AR_ESCALATOR

2010-06-03 Thread Thad K Esser
**
Kevin,

In order to get our integration to work,
I added AND ($USER$ != AR_ESCALATOR ) to
the run if of the following filters (ITSM 7.0.3 p9, ARS 7.1)
CTM:PPL:VerifyManageInfo_142_Msg
CTM:PPL:GetStatusRuleSet_030
CTM:PPL:VerifyManageInfo_141_Check
CTM:PPL:ChkUnrestrictedAccess-Fail2_596
CTM:PPL:ChkUnrestrictedAccess-Fail_596

Also, the CTM:PPL:UpdateLoginID_795
filter uses TR values on the Remedy Login ID field, so if you are pushing
that field to CTM:People and it hasn't changed, a whole bunch (no, really,
a lot) of workflow will fire needlessly.

Thad Esser
Remedy Developer





From:
Maher, Jeff jma...@fas.harvard.edu

To:
arslist@ARSLIST.ORG

Date:
06/03/2010 11:32 AM

Subject:
Re: User AR_ESCALATOR

Sent by:
Action Request System discussion
list(ARSList) arslist@ARSLIST.ORG




** 

Hi Kevin, I had a similar
issue, but it was actually caused somewhere in the process of upgrading
to ITSM 7 patch 9 from patch 4. There was some new filter workflow added
(or fixed so it actually did something) that now checks roles when creating
new users, login ids, etc. A little bit of logging and you can find the
bugger that is missing AND $USER$ != AR_ESCALATOR in the qualification
so your stuff will work again. However like Joe said, probably is a better
choice to do something using the AIE. I didnt really have that option
in my scenario.

From: Action Request System discussion
list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG]
On Behalf Of Kevin Begosh
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 1:42 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: User AR_ESCALATOR

** this was working with 7.1, we
just upgraded to 7.5 and getting these messages now. Good suggestion
with the AIE though.
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 1:34 PM,
Joe D'Souza jdso...@shyle.net
wrote:
** 
ITSM 7 has changed a
few things as to what roles are required to create and maintain contact
information.. The roles that you see have to be added to the user that
creates or updates this information in the CTM:People form..

Instead of using escalations
to do what you are doing, I would suggest creating a regular AR User account
that has all these roles, and other permissions needed, and use AIE to
do the same thing you are doing.. I have done it that way and it works
well.. You can schedule AIE to run the job just like you are using your
Escalation.. Make sure you configure AIE to use the user that you have
created..

Joe
-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG]On
Behalf Of Kevin Begosh
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 1:27 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: User AR_ESCALATOR
** 
I have a process and staging forms
that pull employee data from a view form on remedy, send it to a staging
form and then creates a people record if that ID does not exist on the
people form. Well it worked before and then we upgraded from 7.0
to 7.5 AR Server and now it is not working. We are getting the following
error message

You must have one of the following
permissions to create a person with a login ID: 'Contact Organization Admin',
'Contact Support Admin'. (ARERR 45530)

and none of the profiles are being
create. Has something change with AR_ESCALATOR between 7.0 and 7.5?
Am I missing something?

ARS 7.5 Patch 4
ITSM 7.03 Patch 9
CMDB 7.6 Patch 1

-- 
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Re: User AR_ESCALATOR

2010-06-03 Thread Thad K Esser
**
That's a good general strategy, however
for this type of integration, the workflow on CTM:People should fire (sets
up user records, default values, etc). The filters listed are ones
that can be safely bypassed by an automated process that is designed to
create and/or update the people records. Also note that the execution
order for these filters are all over the place, so you'd have to put the
bypass in in multiple places.

Thad Esser
Remedy Developer





From:
Mahesh mchand...@gmail.com

To:
arslist@ARSLIST.ORG

Date:
06/03/2010 02:54 PM

Subject:
Re: User AR_ESCALATOR

Sent by:
Action Request System discussion
list(ARSList) arslist@ARSLIST.ORG




** If you want to stay
away from touching the OOB work-flow and minimize the maintenance effort
especially during patch/version upgrade, you can do the following.

1. Pass a z1D Action tag value to the People record along with
other values. Example: XXX:PPL:Update. I use company abbreviation
in place of XXX.

2. Using the above tag as Run If qualification, create a filter
to bypass the workflow that is causing the issue (GOTO action).

Thanks
Mahesh

On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Thad K Esser tkes...@regence.com
wrote:
** 
Kevin, 

In order to get our integration to work, I added AND ($USER$ != AR_ESCALATOR
) to the run if of the following filters (ITSM 7.0.3 p9, ARS 7.1)

CTM:PPL:VerifyManageInfo_142_Msg 
CTM:PPL:GetStatusRuleSet_030 
CTM:PPL:VerifyManageInfo_141_Check 
CTM:PPL:ChkUnrestrictedAccess-Fail2_596 
CTM:PPL:ChkUnrestrictedAccess-Fail_596 

Also, the CTM:PPL:UpdateLoginID_795 filter uses TR values on the Remedy
Login ID field, so if you are pushing that field to CTM:People and it hasn't
changed, a whole bunch (no, really, a lot) of workflow will fire needlessly.


Thad Esser
Remedy Developer 




From:

Maher, Jeff jma...@fas.harvard.edu


To:

arslist@ARSLIST.ORG


Date:

06/03/2010 11:32 AM


Subject:

Re: User AR_ESCALATOR


Sent by:

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list(ARSList) arslist@ARSLIST.ORG





** 


Hi Kevin, I had a similar issue, but it was actually caused somewhere in
the process of upgrading to ITSM 7 patch 9 from patch 4. There was some
new filter workflow added (or fixed so it actually did something) that
now checks roles when creating new users, login ids, etc. A little bit
of logging and you can find the bugger that is missing AND $USER$ !=
AR_ESCALATOR in the qualification so your stuff will work again.
However like Joe said, probably is a better choice to do something using
the AIE. I didnt really have that option in my scenario.

 
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG]
On Behalf Of Kevin Begosh
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 1:42 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: User AR_ESCALATOR 
 
** this was working with 7.1, we just upgraded to 7.5 and getting these
messages now. Good suggestion with the AIE though.

On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Joe D'Souza jdso...@shyle.net
wrote: 
** 
ITSM 7 has changed a few things as to what roles are required to create
and maintain contact information.. The roles that you see have to be added
to the user that creates or updates this information in the CTM:People
form.. 
 
Instead of using escalations to do what you are doing, I would suggest
creating a regular AR User account that has all these roles, and other
permissions needed, and use AIE to do the same thing you are doing.. I
have done it that way and it works well.. You can schedule AIE to run the
job just like you are using your Escalation.. Make sure you configure AIE
to use the user that you have created.. 
 
Joe 
-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG]On
Behalf Of Kevin Begosh
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 1:27 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG

Subject: User AR_ESCALATOR 
** 
I have a process and staging forms that pull employee data from a view
form on remedy, send it to a staging form and then creates a people record
if that ID does not exist on the people form. Well it worked before
and then we upgraded from 7.0 to 7.5 AR Server and now it is not working.
We are getting the following error message 
 
You must have one of the following permissions to create a person with
a login ID: 'Contact Organization Admin', 'Contact Support Admin'. (ARERR
45530) 
 
and none of the profiles are being create. Has something change with
AR_ESCALATOR between 7.0 and 7.5? Am I missing something?

 
ARS 7.5 Patch 4 
ITSM 7.03 Patch 9 
CMDB 7.6 Patch 1

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Re: User AR_ESCALATOR

2010-06-03 Thread Mahesh
Yeah, I agree. This will require the same amount of filters as below. I
missed the execution order in my previous post. The filter(s) should fire at
an execution order less than the one that is causing the error message and
the GOTO action should be one greater than the object causing the error.

The advantage is that you are just creating custom objects without messing
OOB work-flow and since the tag is unique, nothing is affected.

Thanks
Mahesh

On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 5:22 PM, Thad K Esser tkes...@regence.com wrote:

 **
 That's a good general strategy, however for this type of integration, the
 workflow on CTM:People should fire (sets up user records, default values,
 etc).  The filters listed are ones that can be safely bypassed by an
 automated process that is designed to create and/or update the people
 records.  Also note that the execution order for these filters are all over
 the place, so you'd have to put the bypass in in multiple places.

 *Thad Esser*
 Remedy Developer


  From: Mahesh mchand...@gmail.com To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Date: 06/03/2010
 02:54 PM Subject: Re: User AR_ESCALATOR Sent by: Action Request System
 discussion list(ARSList) arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 --



 ** If you want to stay away from touching the OOB work-flow and minimize
 the maintenance effort especially during patch/version upgrade, you can do
 the following.

 1. Pass a z1D Action tag value to the People record along with other
 values. Example: XXX:PPL:Update. I use company abbreviation in place of
 XXX.

 2. Using the above tag as Run If qualification, create a filter to bypass
 the workflow that is causing the issue (GOTO action).

 Thanks
 Mahesh

 On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Thad K Esser 
 *tkes...@regence.com*tkes...@regence.com
 wrote:
 **
 Kevin,

 In order to get our integration to work, I added AND ($USER$ !=
  AR_ESCALATOR ) to the run if of the following filters (ITSM 7.0.3 p9,
 ARS 7.1)
 CTM:PPL:VerifyManageInfo_142_Msg
 CTM:PPL:GetStatusRuleSet_030
 CTM:PPL:VerifyManageInfo_141_Check
 CTM:PPL:ChkUnrestrictedAccess-Fail2_596
 CTM:PPL:ChkUnrestrictedAccess-Fail_596

 Also, the CTM:PPL:UpdateLoginID_795 filter uses TR values on the Remedy
 Login ID field, so if you are pushing that field to CTM:People and it hasn't
 changed, a whole bunch (no, really, a lot) of workflow will fire needlessly.
 *
 Thad Esser*
 Remedy Developer

   From: Maher, Jeff *jma...@fas.harvard.edu* jma...@fas.harvard.edu
 To: *arsl...@arslist.org* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG  Date: 06/03/2010 11:32 AM
 Subject: Re: User AR_ESCALATOR  Sent by: Action Request System discussion
 list(ARSList) *arsl...@arslist.org* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG

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 **

 Hi Kevin, I had a similar issue, but it was actually caused somewhere in
 the process of upgrading to ITSM 7 patch 9 from patch 4. There was some new
 filter workflow added (or fixed so it actually did something) that now
 checks roles when creating new users, login id’s, etc. A little bit of
 logging and you can find the bugger that is missing ‘AND $USER$ !=
 “AR_ESCALATOR”’ in the qualification so your stuff will work again. However
 like Joe said, probably is a better choice to do something using the AIE. I
 didn’t really have that option in my scenario.
   *
 From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [*
 mailto:arsl...@arslist.org* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Kevin
 Begosh*
 Sent:* Thursday, June 03, 2010 1:42 PM*
 To:* *arsl...@arslist.org* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG*
 Subject:* Re: User AR_ESCALATOR

 ** this was working with 7.1, we just upgraded to 7.5 and getting these
 messages now.  Good suggestion with the AIE though.
 On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Joe D'Souza 
 *jdso...@shyle.net*jdso...@shyle.net
 wrote:
 **
 ITSM 7 has changed a few things as to what roles are required to create and
 maintain contact information.. The roles that you see have to be added to
 the user that creates or updates this information in the CTM:People form..

 Instead of using escalations to do what you are doing, I would suggest
 creating a regular AR User account that has all these roles, and other
 permissions needed, and use AIE to do the same thing you are doing.. I have
 done it that way and it works well.. You can schedule AIE to run the job
 just like you are using your Escalation.. Make sure you configure AIE to use
 the user that you have created..

 Joe
 -Original Message-*
 From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:*
 arsl...@arslist.org* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG]*On Behalf Of *Kevin Begosh*
 Sent:* Thursday, June 03, 2010 1:27 PM*
 To:* *arsl...@arslist.org* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG *
 Subject:* User AR_ESCALATOR
 **
 I have a process and staging forms that pull employee data from a view form
 on remedy, send it to a staging form and then creates a people record if
 that ID does not exist on the people form.  Well it worked before and then
 we upgraded from 7.0 to 7.5 AR Server and now it is not working. We