Re: Solid State Hard Drives

2012-03-19 Thread Theo Fondse
Peter,

I use a much cheaper (and faster) alternative: RAM Drive.

We have bumped up the RAM on my laptop to 16Gb  and I downloaded a free 
RAMDrive utility that uses RAM to simulate a HDD.
I then placed the ARSystem DB files of my ITSM764 VM on the RAMDrive.
In spite of the fact that my laptop has 2 RAID-0 striped disks, Remedy now 
starts up 30%  faster and rebuilding all the indexes on this ARSystem DB is 
approximately 6x faster (just over 1 minute).
Allocating 8.5 GB RAM to the VM then makes for a ITSM 7.6.4 VM on your laptop 
that actually has acceptable performance.

Be warned, however, there is a trade-off for the extra performance: The RAM 
Drive can get corrupted if your laptop is powered down unexpectedly. You need 
to ensure that you always shut down the VM and then the host to make sure your 
data is saved correctly to the image of the RAMDrive on your HDD.

I also recommend using a partition with 64K file allocation blocks to store the 
RAMDrive image on your HDD to make sure laptop start-up/shut-down times are 
minimised.

Best Regards,
Theo

Sent from my Black/Silver Personal Computer 
Try not to become a person of success, but a person of value. - Albert 
Einstein

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Rick Cook
Sent: 16 March 2012 23:26
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Solid State Hard Drives

**

Modern versions are better, but you can still get corrupted sectors on SSDs.  I 
wouldn't use one as my only disk, but as part of a SAN, if you can afford it, 
no problem.

Rick
On Mar 16, 2012 5:17 PM, Peter Romain 
p.romain.arsl...@parsolutions.co.ukmailto:p.romain.arsl...@parsolutions.co.uk
 wrote:
I'd try the SSD if I was you.

Cloning and replacing the hard drive in the laptop is a breeze.

Paying for the SSD is painful though - ~ £460 for a 500G version here in the UK

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Murnane, 
Phil
Sent: 16 March 2012 13:30
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Solid State Hard Drives

Peter:

I have a habit of keeping a resource monitor (Windows 7 Resource Monitor or 
CentOS GNOME widget) running on my laptop at all times and of never using the 
host OS to do anything except run VMs.  Given sufficient RAM (8GB seems 
adequate), I've found that the hard disk is almost always the bottleneck in 
performance, especially when running more than one VM.

I've been considering buying an external esata enclosure with two 7200 RPM 
drives configured as RAID 0 for my work laptop.  I use a similar storage 
configuration on my home server, and the disk bottleneck is much reduced.

All that being said, SSDs have seemed pretty stable for the last couple of 
years.  If performance similar to the RAID 0 configuration can be achieved 
internally, then it would be _way_ more convenient than an external enclosure.

HTH,
--Phil

-Original Message-
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Romain
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 07:49
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Solid State Hard Drives

Hi All,

I couldn't get ITSM to run on my laptop which has an i7 processor and 8G RAM.

I recently upgraded it to 16G and replaced the hard drive with a 500GB SSD.

Now ITSM flies and I can run it and ADDM together in VM's and still do the 
normal document/email stuff.

Are SSD's now sufficiently stable to use in datacenter servers?

If so, would this help solve some performance issues?

I'm not responsible for any servers so am just asking out of interest.

Cheers

Peter

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Re: Solid State Hard Drives

2012-03-19 Thread Jose Huerta
As far as I know, To have a RAM drive to feed the database engine
theoretically has the same performance as giving this RAM to the database
and tune to use this amount of cache. But also avoiding the counterpart of
database corrupted on an unexpected power off.

Jose M. Huerta
Project Manager**

Movil: 661 665 088

Telf.: 971 75 03 24

Fax: 971 75 07 94

 http://www.sm2baleares.es/

SM2 Baleares S.A.
C/Rita Levi 

Edificio SM2 Parc Bit

07121 Palma de Mallorca

  http://es-es.facebook.com/pages/SM2-Baleares/158608627954
  http://twitter.com/#!/SM2Baleares
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On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 09:58, Theo Fondse t...@remex.co.za wrote:

 **

 Peter,

 ** **

 I use a much cheaper (and faster) alternative: RAM Drive.

 ** **

 We have bumped up the RAM on my laptop to 16Gb  and I downloaded a free
 RAMDrive utility that uses RAM to simulate a HDD. 

 I then placed the ARSystem DB files of my ITSM764 VM on the RAMDrive.

 In spite of the fact that my laptop has 2 RAID-0 striped disks, Remedy now
 starts up 30%  faster and rebuilding all the indexes on this ARSystem DB is
 approximately 6x faster (just over 1 minute).

 Allocating 8.5 GB RAM to the VM then makes for a ITSM 7.6.4 VM on your
 laptop that actually has acceptable performance.

 ** **

 Be warned, however, there is a trade-off for the extra performance: The
 RAM Drive can get corrupted if your laptop is powered down unexpectedly.
 You need to ensure that you always shut down the VM and then the host to
 make sure your data is saved correctly to the image of the RAMDrive on your
 HDD.

 

 I also recommend using a partition with 64K file allocation blocks to
 store the RAMDrive image on your HDD to make sure laptop start-up/shut-down
 times are minimised.

 ** **

 Best Regards,

 Theo

 ** **

 Sent from my Black/Silver Personal Computer 

 

 “Try not to become a person of success, but a person of value.” – Albert
 Einstein

 ** **

 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Rick Cook
 *Sent:* 16 March 2012 23:26

 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Re: Solid State Hard Drives

  ** **

 ** 

 Modern versions are better, but you can still get corrupted sectors on
 SSDs.  I wouldn't use one as my only disk, but as part of a SAN, if you can
 afford it, no problem.

 Rick

 On Mar 16, 2012 5:17 PM, Peter Romain 
 p.romain.arsl...@parsolutions.co.uk wrote:

 I'd try the SSD if I was you.

 Cloning and replacing the hard drive in the laptop is a breeze.

 Paying for the SSD is painful though - ~ £460 for a 500G version here in
 the UK

 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Murnane, Phil
 Sent: 16 March 2012 13:30
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: Solid State Hard Drives

 Peter:

 I have a habit of keeping a resource monitor (Windows 7 Resource Monitor
 or CentOS GNOME widget) running on my laptop at all times and of never
 using the host OS to do anything except run VMs.  Given sufficient RAM (8GB
 seems adequate), I've found that the hard disk is almost always the
 bottleneck in performance, especially when running more than one VM.

 I've been considering buying an external esata enclosure with two 7200 RPM
 drives configured as RAID 0 for my work laptop.  I use a similar storage
 configuration on my home server, and the disk bottleneck is much reduced.

 All that being said, SSDs have seemed pretty stable for the last couple of
 years.  If performance similar to the RAID 0 configuration can be achieved
 internally, then it would be _way_ more convenient than an external
 enclosure.

 HTH,
 --Phil

 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Peter Romain
 Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 07:49
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Solid State Hard Drives

 Hi All,

 I couldn't get ITSM to run on my laptop which has an i7 processor and 8G
 RAM.

 I recently upgraded it to 16G and replaced the hard drive with a 500GB SSD.

 Now ITSM flies and I can run it and ADDM together in VM's and still do the
 normal document/email stuff.

 Are SSD's now sufficiently stable to use in datacenter servers?

 If so, would this help solve some performance issues?

 I'm

Re: Solid State Hard Drives

2012-03-19 Thread Theo Fondse
Jose,

I agree with you on the theory, but have just tested this again with one of my 
VM's. Allocating extra RAM to MSSQL does not have the desired effect.
ARS Startup times are still longer with the DB sitting on a HDD as opposed to a 
RAMDrive.
Normal Remedy DevStudio stuff like opening HPD:Help Desk, adding a field and 
saving the form does take much longer - in spite of extra RAM allocated to SQL.
Maybe there's more one can do to speed up MSSQL(?), but my tests so far have 
shown that having the ARSystem DB on a RAMDrive does provide the best possible 
performance on a laptop.

I would not recommend the RAMDrive config  for a production environment, but 
for a consultant/developer looking to finish his/her work soonest, the 
DB-On-RAMDrive is both the cheapest and fastest solution I have found so far.

Best Regards,
Theo

Sent from my Black/Silver Personal Computer 
“Try not to become a person of success, but a person of value.” – Albert 
Einstein

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Jose Huerta
Sent: 19 March 2012 11:40
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Solid State Hard Drives

** As far as I know, To have a RAM drive to feed the database engine 
theoretically has the same performance as giving this RAM to the database and 
tune to use this amount of cache. But also avoiding the counterpart of database 
corrupted on an unexpected power off.

Jose M. Huerta
Project Manager

Movil: 661 665 088

Telf.: 971 75 03 24

Fax: 971 75 07 94


[cid:image001.jpg@01CD05DD.55310680]http://www.sm2baleares.es/


SM2 Baleares S.A.
C/Rita Levi

Edificio SM2 Parc Bit

07121 Palma de Mallorca


 [cid:image002.jpg@01CD05DD.55310680] 
http://es-es.facebook.com/pages/SM2-Baleares/158608627954 
[cid:image003.jpg@01CD05DD.55310680] http://twitter.com/#!/SM2Baleares 
[cid:image004.jpg@01CD05DD.55310680] 
http://www.linkedin.com/company/sm2-baleares


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On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 09:58, Theo Fondse 
t...@remex.co.zamailto:t...@remex.co.za wrote:
**
Peter,

I use a much cheaper (and faster) alternative: RAM Drive.

We have bumped up the RAM on my laptop to 16Gb  and I downloaded a free 
RAMDrive utility that uses RAM to simulate a HDD.
I then placed the ARSystem DB files of my ITSM764 VM on the RAMDrive.
In spite of the fact that my laptop has 2 RAID-0 striped disks, Remedy now 
starts up 30%  faster and rebuilding all the indexes on this ARSystem DB is 
approximately 6x faster (just over 1 minute).
Allocating 8.5 GB RAM to the VM then makes for a ITSM 7.6.4 VM on your laptop 
that actually has acceptable performance.

Be warned, however, there is a trade-off for the extra performance: The RAM 
Drive can get corrupted if your laptop is powered down unexpectedly. You need 
to ensure that you always shut down the VM and then the host to make sure your 
data is saved correctly to the image of the RAMDrive on your HDD.
I also recommend using a partition with 64K file allocation blocks to store the 
RAMDrive image on your HDD to make sure laptop start-up/shut-down times are 
minimised.

Best Regards,
Theo

Sent from my Black/Silver Personal Computer 
“Try not to become a person of success, but a person of value.” – Albert 
Einstein

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Rick Cook
Sent: 16 March 2012 23:26

To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Solid State Hard Drives

**

Modern versions are better, but you can still get corrupted sectors on SSDs.  I 
wouldn't use one as my only disk, but as part of a SAN, if you can afford it, 
no problem.

Rick
On Mar 16, 2012 5:17 PM, Peter Romain 
p.romain.arsl...@parsolutions.co.ukmailto:p.romain.arsl...@parsolutions.co.uk
 wrote:
I'd try the SSD if I was you.

Cloning and replacing the hard drive in the laptop is a breeze.

Paying for the SSD is painful though - ~ £460 for a 500G version here in the UK

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Murnane, 
Phil
Sent: 16 March 2012 13:30
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Solid State Hard Drives

Peter:

I have a habit of keeping a resource monitor (Windows 7 Resource Monitor or 
CentOS GNOME widget) running on my laptop at all times and of never using the 
host OS to do anything except run VMs

Re: Solid State Hard Drives

2012-03-19 Thread patrick zandi
I have found if you tune your ars, itsm, and apache, you can get the system
to run on approx 5.4 gig of ram (allocated to the virtual).. and is
responsive.
you are at the bring of the edge of the full 8gig of ram on the box..
without thrashing. (I mean I have only 350 meg available) but is workable.

Obviously shutting of SLM is a huge help ram wise ( I really do not think
they built this correctly at all)...

 Huge difference when on usb 2 (yuk) verses usb 3 (ok) or even esata (ok)
... but you do it as best as you can, with what you have..

for what it is worth.. Take everything with a Grain of Salt !
Stay thirsty my friend...  for the word. 8-)

On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 4:58 AM, Theo Fondse t...@remex.co.za wrote:

 **

 Peter,

 ** **

 I use a much cheaper (and faster) alternative: RAM Drive.

 ** **

 We have bumped up the RAM on my laptop to 16Gb  and I downloaded a free
 RAMDrive utility that uses RAM to simulate a HDD. 

 I then placed the ARSystem DB files of my ITSM764 VM on the RAMDrive.

 In spite of the fact that my laptop has 2 RAID-0 striped disks, Remedy now
 starts up 30%  faster and rebuilding all the indexes on this ARSystem DB is
 approximately 6x faster (just over 1 minute).

 Allocating 8.5 GB RAM to the VM then makes for a ITSM 7.6.4 VM on your
 laptop that actually has acceptable performance.

 ** **

 Be warned, however, there is a trade-off for the extra performance: The
 RAM Drive can get corrupted if your laptop is powered down unexpectedly.
 You need to ensure that you always shut down the VM and then the host to
 make sure your data is saved correctly to the image of the RAMDrive on your
 HDD.

 

 I also recommend using a partition with 64K file allocation blocks to
 store the RAMDrive image on your HDD to make sure laptop start-up/shut-down
 times are minimised.

 ** **

 Best Regards,

 Theo

 ** **

 Sent from my Black/Silver Personal Computer 

 

 “Try not to become a person of success, but a person of value.” – Albert
 Einstein

 ** **

 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Rick Cook
 *Sent:* 16 March 2012 23:26

 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Re: Solid State Hard Drives

  ** **

 ** 

 Modern versions are better, but you can still get corrupted sectors on
 SSDs.  I wouldn't use one as my only disk, but as part of a SAN, if you can
 afford it, no problem.

 Rick

 On Mar 16, 2012 5:17 PM, Peter Romain 
 p.romain.arsl...@parsolutions.co.uk wrote:

 I'd try the SSD if I was you.

 Cloning and replacing the hard drive in the laptop is a breeze.

 Paying for the SSD is painful though - ~ £460 for a 500G version here in
 the UK

 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Murnane, Phil
 Sent: 16 March 2012 13:30
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: Solid State Hard Drives

 Peter:

 I have a habit of keeping a resource monitor (Windows 7 Resource Monitor
 or CentOS GNOME widget) running on my laptop at all times and of never
 using the host OS to do anything except run VMs.  Given sufficient RAM (8GB
 seems adequate), I've found that the hard disk is almost always the
 bottleneck in performance, especially when running more than one VM.

 I've been considering buying an external esata enclosure with two 7200 RPM
 drives configured as RAID 0 for my work laptop.  I use a similar storage
 configuration on my home server, and the disk bottleneck is much reduced.

 All that being said, SSDs have seemed pretty stable for the last couple of
 years.  If performance similar to the RAID 0 configuration can be achieved
 internally, then it would be _way_ more convenient than an external
 enclosure.

 HTH,
 --Phil

 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Peter Romain
 Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 07:49
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Solid State Hard Drives

 Hi All,

 I couldn't get ITSM to run on my laptop which has an i7 processor and 8G
 RAM.

 I recently upgraded it to 16G and replaced the hard drive with a 500GB SSD.

 Now ITSM flies and I can run it and ADDM together in VM's and still do the
 normal document/email stuff.

 Are SSD's now sufficiently stable to use in datacenter servers?

 If so, would this help solve some performance issues?

 I'm not responsible for any servers so am just asking out of interest.

 Cheers

 Peter


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Solid State Hard Drives

2012-03-16 Thread Peter Romain
Hi All,

I couldn't get ITSM to run on my laptop which has an i7 processor and 8G RAM.

I recently upgraded it to 16G and replaced the hard drive with a 500GB SSD.

Now ITSM flies and I can run it and ADDM together in VM's and still do the 
normal document/email stuff.

Are SSD's now sufficiently stable to use in datacenter servers?

If so, would this help solve some performance issues?

I'm not responsible for any servers so am just asking out of interest.

Cheers

Peter

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Re: Solid State Hard Drives

2012-03-16 Thread Tauf Chowdhury
I know a lot of SAN storage is now converting over to SSD's an that is
enterprise class storage so I can't see why servers wouldn't be able
to run it as well.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 16, 2012, at 6:50 AM, Peter Romain
p.romain.arsl...@parsolutions.co.uk wrote:

 Hi All,

 I couldn't get ITSM to run on my laptop which has an i7 processor and 8G RAM.

 I recently upgraded it to 16G and replaced the hard drive with a 500GB SSD.

 Now ITSM flies and I can run it and ADDM together in VM's and still do the 
 normal document/email stuff.

 Are SSD's now sufficiently stable to use in datacenter servers?

 If so, would this help solve some performance issues?

 I'm not responsible for any servers so am just asking out of interest.

 Cheers

 Peter

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Re: Solid State Hard Drives

2012-03-16 Thread patrick zandi
san can be as fast as 8Gb *Fibre* Channel Expansion *Card*, scsi 3 is only
320 MB/s... just something to think about..

On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 8:28 AM, Tauf Chowdhury taufc...@gmail.com wrote:

 I know a lot of SAN storage is now converting over to SSD's an that is
 enterprise class storage so I can't see why servers wouldn't be able
 to run it as well.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 16, 2012, at 6:50 AM, Peter Romain
 p.romain.arsl...@parsolutions.co.uk wrote:

  Hi All,
 
  I couldn't get ITSM to run on my laptop which has an i7 processor and 8G
 RAM.
 
  I recently upgraded it to 16G and replaced the hard drive with a 500GB
 SSD.
 
  Now ITSM flies and I can run it and ADDM together in VM's and still do
 the normal document/email stuff.
 
  Are SSD's now sufficiently stable to use in datacenter servers?
 
  If so, would this help solve some performance issues?
 
  I'm not responsible for any servers so am just asking out of interest.
 
  Cheers
 
  Peter
 
 
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Re: Solid State Hard Drives

2012-03-16 Thread Murnane, Phil
Peter:

I have a habit of keeping a resource monitor (Windows 7 Resource Monitor or 
CentOS GNOME widget) running on my laptop at all times and of never using the 
host OS to do anything except run VMs.  Given sufficient RAM (8GB seems 
adequate), I've found that the hard disk is almost always the bottleneck in 
performance, especially when running more than one VM.

I've been considering buying an external esata enclosure with two 7200 RPM 
drives configured as RAID 0 for my work laptop.  I use a similar storage 
configuration on my home server, and the disk bottleneck is much reduced.

All that being said, SSDs have seemed pretty stable for the last couple of 
years.  If performance similar to the RAID 0 configuration can be achieved 
internally, then it would be _way_ more convenient than an external enclosure.

HTH,
--Phil

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Peter Romain
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 07:49
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Solid State Hard Drives

Hi All,

I couldn't get ITSM to run on my laptop which has an i7 processor and 8G RAM.

I recently upgraded it to 16G and replaced the hard drive with a 500GB SSD.

Now ITSM flies and I can run it and ADDM together in VM's and still do the 
normal document/email stuff.

Are SSD's now sufficiently stable to use in datacenter servers?

If so, would this help solve some performance issues?

I'm not responsible for any servers so am just asking out of interest.

Cheers

Peter

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Re: Solid State Hard Drives

2012-03-16 Thread Peter Romain
I'd try the SSD if I was you.

Cloning and replacing the hard drive in the laptop is a breeze.

Paying for the SSD is painful though - ~ £460 for a 500G version here in the UK

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Murnane, Phil
Sent: 16 March 2012 13:30
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Solid State Hard Drives

Peter:

I have a habit of keeping a resource monitor (Windows 7 Resource Monitor or 
CentOS GNOME widget) running on my laptop at all times and of never using the 
host OS to do anything except run VMs.  Given sufficient RAM (8GB seems 
adequate), I've found that the hard disk is almost always the bottleneck in 
performance, especially when running more than one VM.

I've been considering buying an external esata enclosure with two 7200 RPM 
drives configured as RAID 0 for my work laptop.  I use a similar storage 
configuration on my home server, and the disk bottleneck is much reduced.

All that being said, SSDs have seemed pretty stable for the last couple of 
years.  If performance similar to the RAID 0 configuration can be achieved 
internally, then it would be _way_ more convenient than an external enclosure.

HTH,
--Phil

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Peter Romain
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 07:49
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Solid State Hard Drives

Hi All,

I couldn't get ITSM to run on my laptop which has an i7 processor and 8G RAM.

I recently upgraded it to 16G and replaced the hard drive with a 500GB SSD.

Now ITSM flies and I can run it and ADDM together in VM's and still do the 
normal document/email stuff.

Are SSD's now sufficiently stable to use in datacenter servers?

If so, would this help solve some performance issues?

I'm not responsible for any servers so am just asking out of interest.

Cheers

Peter

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Re: Solid State Hard Drives

2012-03-16 Thread Rick Cook
Modern versions are better, but you can still get corrupted sectors on
SSDs.  I wouldn't use one as my only disk, but as part of a SAN, if you can
afford it, no problem.

Rick
On Mar 16, 2012 5:17 PM, Peter Romain p.romain.arsl...@parsolutions.co.uk
wrote:

 I'd try the SSD if I was you.

 Cloning and replacing the hard drive in the laptop is a breeze.

 Paying for the SSD is painful though - ~ £460 for a 500G version here in
 the UK

 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Murnane, Phil
 Sent: 16 March 2012 13:30
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: Solid State Hard Drives

 Peter:

 I have a habit of keeping a resource monitor (Windows 7 Resource Monitor
 or CentOS GNOME widget) running on my laptop at all times and of never
 using the host OS to do anything except run VMs.  Given sufficient RAM (8GB
 seems adequate), I've found that the hard disk is almost always the
 bottleneck in performance, especially when running more than one VM.

 I've been considering buying an external esata enclosure with two 7200 RPM
 drives configured as RAID 0 for my work laptop.  I use a similar storage
 configuration on my home server, and the disk bottleneck is much reduced.

 All that being said, SSDs have seemed pretty stable for the last couple of
 years.  If performance similar to the RAID 0 configuration can be achieved
 internally, then it would be _way_ more convenient than an external
 enclosure.

 HTH,
 --Phil

 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Peter Romain
 Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 07:49
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Solid State Hard Drives

 Hi All,

 I couldn't get ITSM to run on my laptop which has an i7 processor and 8G
 RAM.

 I recently upgraded it to 16G and replaced the hard drive with a 500GB SSD.

 Now ITSM flies and I can run it and ADDM together in VM's and still do the
 normal document/email stuff.

 Are SSD's now sufficiently stable to use in datacenter servers?

 If so, would this help solve some performance issues?

 I'm not responsible for any servers so am just asking out of interest.

 Cheers

 Peter


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