Using AIE to restore Asset Data

2009-12-10 Thread Pierson, Shawn
Good morning,

We had a recent problem where a bunch of our Asset data was wiped out.  The 
records exist, but some of the fields were made null.  I came up with the idea 
of using AIE to fix this problem by restoring the Asset data from a backup and 
treating it as external data to import.

However, I've been told that I can't match on either the Request ID or the 
Instance ID, so I am curious if anyone here knows of a system generated unique 
id that I can use to match the old record with the new record.

Thanks,

Shawn Pierson
Remedy Developer | Southern Union




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Re: Using AIE to restore Asset Data

2009-12-10 Thread Chowdhury, Tauf
How was the data put into Asset? Config Discovery? Manual? 

If it's Configuration Discovery, there's a bunch of unique fields... 

 

Why wouldn't you be able to match using Instance ID? 

 

Tauf Chowdhury | Forest Laboratories, Inc.

Analyst, Service Management

Mobile:646.483.2779

 

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** 

Good morning,

 

We had a recent problem where a bunch of our Asset data was wiped out.
The records exist, but some of the fields were made null.  I came up
with the idea of using AIE to fix this problem by restoring the Asset
data from a backup and treating it as external data to import.

 

However, I've been told that I can't match on either the Request ID or
the Instance ID, so I am curious if anyone here knows of a system
generated unique id that I can use to match the old record with the new
record.

 

Thanks,

 

Shawn Pierson 

Remedy Developer | Southern Union

 

 

 

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Re: Using AIE to restore Asset Data

2009-12-10 Thread Pierson, Shawn
It was manually entered, unfortunately.

Thanks,

Shawn

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**
How was the data put into Asset? Config Discovery? Manual?
If it's Configuration Discovery, there's a bunch of unique fields...

Why wouldn't you be able to match using Instance ID?

Tauf Chowdhury | Forest Laboratories, Inc.
Analyst, Service Management
Mobile:646.483.2779

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**
Good morning,

We had a recent problem where a bunch of our Asset data was wiped out.  The 
records exist, but some of the fields were made null.  I came up with the idea 
of using AIE to fix this problem by restoring the Asset data from a backup and 
treating it as external data to import.

However, I've been told that I can't match on either the Request ID or the 
Instance ID, so I am curious if anyone here knows of a system generated unique 
id that I can use to match the old record with the new record.

Thanks,

Shawn Pierson
Remedy Developer | Southern Union



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Re: Using AIE to restore Asset Data

2009-12-10 Thread DCI Remedy
why don't you match on CI Name?

On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Pierson, Shawn shawn.pier...@sug.comwrote:

 **

 It was manually entered, unfortunately.



 Thanks,



 Shawn



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 How was the data put into Asset? Config Discovery? Manual?

 If it’s Configuration Discovery, there’s a bunch of unique fields…



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 **

 Good morning,



 We had a recent problem where a bunch of our Asset data was wiped out.  The
 records exist, but some of the fields were made null.  I came up with the
 idea of using AIE to fix this problem by restoring the Asset data from a
 backup and treating it as external data to import.



 However, I’ve been told that I can’t match on either the Request ID or the
 Instance ID, so I am curious if anyone here knows of a system generated
 unique id that I can use to match the old record with the new record.



 Thanks,



 *Shawn Pierson *

 Remedy Developer | Southern Union







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Re: Using AIE to restore Asset Data

2009-12-10 Thread Lyle Taylor
Are you saying that you have a backup of the Asset data that was in Remedy?  
Does that backup include the Reconciliation ID?  If it does, then you don't 
need to match on anything, you would simply need to do a Merge between the 
datasets, because everything should already be matched up (by definition, 
anything that has a recon id (something other than zero) is already matched to 
something, so it doesn't try to identify it again).  You might need to define 
Precedence rules to only set the fields that have gone missing (to avoid 
overwriting any other data that may have changed since the backup), though.

Lyle

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Subject: Using AIE to restore Asset Data

**
Good morning,

We had a recent problem where a bunch of our Asset data was wiped out.  The 
records exist, but some of the fields were made null.  I came up with the idea 
of using AIE to fix this problem by restoring the Asset data from a backup and 
treating it as external data to import.

However, I've been told that I can't match on either the Request ID or the 
Instance ID, so I am curious if anyone here knows of a system generated unique 
id that I can use to match the old record with the new record.

Thanks,

Shawn Pierson
Remedy Developer | Southern Union



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Re: Using AIE to restore Asset Data

2009-12-10 Thread Pierson, Shawn
There are duplicates in the CI Name field, as there are in serial number.  This 
data was not of great quality but it's what the users want.

Thanks,

Shawn

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** why don't you match on CI Name?
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It was manually entered, unfortunately.

Thanks,

Shawn

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How was the data put into Asset? Config Discovery? Manual?
If it's Configuration Discovery, there's a bunch of unique fields...

Why wouldn't you be able to match using Instance ID?

Tauf Chowdhury | Forest Laboratories, Inc.
Analyst, Service Management
Mobile:646.483.2779

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Subject: Using AIE to restore Asset Data

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Good morning,

We had a recent problem where a bunch of our Asset data was wiped out.  The 
records exist, but some of the fields were made null.  I came up with the idea 
of using AIE to fix this problem by restoring the Asset data from a backup and 
treating it as external data to import.

However, I've been told that I can't match on either the Request ID or the 
Instance ID, so I am curious if anyone here knows of a system generated unique 
id that I can use to match the old record with the new record.

Thanks,

Shawn Pierson
Remedy Developer | Southern Union



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Re: Using AIE to restore Asset Data

2009-12-10 Thread Pierson, Shawn
We didn't do any reconciliations because the users who own this data don't 
trust automation (which unfortunately did cause the problem in this case) so 
they wanted to perform the creation and updates of Computer System CIs manually.

My plan was to use AIE, but since the data I want to fix is limited to the 
computer system data itself, I may just try doing it all through SQL and 
getting it fixed faster even if it's not the recommended way.

Thanks,

Shawn

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Subject: Re: Using AIE to restore Asset Data

**
Are you saying that you have a backup of the Asset data that was in Remedy?  
Does that backup include the Reconciliation ID?  If it does, then you don't 
need to match on anything, you would simply need to do a Merge between the 
datasets, because everything should already be matched up (by definition, 
anything that has a recon id (something other than zero) is already matched to 
something, so it doesn't try to identify it again).  You might need to define 
Precedence rules to only set the fields that have gone missing (to avoid 
overwriting any other data that may have changed since the backup), though.

Lyle

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Subject: Using AIE to restore Asset Data

**
Good morning,

We had a recent problem where a bunch of our Asset data was wiped out.  The 
records exist, but some of the fields were made null.  I came up with the idea 
of using AIE to fix this problem by restoring the Asset data from a backup and 
treating it as external data to import.

However, I've been told that I can't match on either the Request ID or the 
Instance ID, so I am curious if anyone here knows of a system generated unique 
id that I can use to match the old record with the new record.

Thanks,

Shawn Pierson
Remedy Developer | Southern Union



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Re: Using AIE to restore Asset Data

2009-12-10 Thread Lyle Taylor
Note that you can use multiple fields for identification in reconciliation.  
So, if you can define a groups of fields that uniquely identifies each asset, 
you should be able to import the backup data into a dataset, identify between 
them using this group of fields, and then merge them.  Note that what you're 
currently having to do provides a good justification for at least running an 
auto-identification activity on your gold dataset, even if you never merge 
anything in from another dataset, because then you know that you have a single 
field that you can use to identify assets if you ever have to do this again.

Lyle

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**
We didn't do any reconciliations because the users who own this data don't 
trust automation (which unfortunately did cause the problem in this case) so 
they wanted to perform the creation and updates of Computer System CIs manually.

My plan was to use AIE, but since the data I want to fix is limited to the 
computer system data itself, I may just try doing it all through SQL and 
getting it fixed faster even if it's not the recommended way.

Thanks,

Shawn

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Subject: Re: Using AIE to restore Asset Data

**
Are you saying that you have a backup of the Asset data that was in Remedy?  
Does that backup include the Reconciliation ID?  If it does, then you don't 
need to match on anything, you would simply need to do a Merge between the 
datasets, because everything should already be matched up (by definition, 
anything that has a recon id (something other than zero) is already matched to 
something, so it doesn't try to identify it again).  You might need to define 
Precedence rules to only set the fields that have gone missing (to avoid 
overwriting any other data that may have changed since the backup), though.

Lyle

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Subject: Using AIE to restore Asset Data

**
Good morning,

We had a recent problem where a bunch of our Asset data was wiped out.  The 
records exist, but some of the fields were made null.  I came up with the idea 
of using AIE to fix this problem by restoring the Asset data from a backup and 
treating it as external data to import.

However, I've been told that I can't match on either the Request ID or the 
Instance ID, so I am curious if anyone here knows of a system generated unique 
id that I can use to match the old record with the new record.

Thanks,

Shawn Pierson
Remedy Developer | Southern Union



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Re: Using AIE to restore Asset Data

2009-12-10 Thread Martinez, Marcelo A
What if you import the entire data, verify it and then delete all data old 
date...  Create Date  $DATE$

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**
Note that you can use multiple fields for identification in reconciliation.  
So, if you can define a groups of fields that uniquely identifies each asset, 
you should be able to import the backup data into a dataset, identify between 
them using this group of fields, and then merge them.  Note that what you're 
currently having to do provides a good justification for at least running an 
auto-identification activity on your gold dataset, even if you never merge 
anything in from another dataset, because then you know that you have a single 
field that you can use to identify assets if you ever have to do this again.

Lyle

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**
We didn't do any reconciliations because the users who own this data don't 
trust automation (which unfortunately did cause the problem in this case) so 
they wanted to perform the creation and updates of Computer System CIs manually.

My plan was to use AIE, but since the data I want to fix is limited to the 
computer system data itself, I may just try doing it all through SQL and 
getting it fixed faster even if it's not the recommended way.

Thanks,

Shawn

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Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 12:15 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Using AIE to restore Asset Data

**
Are you saying that you have a backup of the Asset data that was in Remedy?  
Does that backup include the Reconciliation ID?  If it does, then you don't 
need to match on anything, you would simply need to do a Merge between the 
datasets, because everything should already be matched up (by definition, 
anything that has a recon id (something other than zero) is already matched to 
something, so it doesn't try to identify it again).  You might need to define 
Precedence rules to only set the fields that have gone missing (to avoid 
overwriting any other data that may have changed since the backup), though.

Lyle

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**
Good morning,

We had a recent problem where a bunch of our Asset data was wiped out.  The 
records exist, but some of the fields were made null.  I came up with the idea 
of using AIE to fix this problem by restoring the Asset data from a backup and 
treating it as external data to import.

However, I've been told that I can't match on either the Request ID or the 
Instance ID, so I am curious if anyone here knows of a system generated unique 
id that I can use to match the old record with the new record.

Thanks,

Shawn Pierson
Remedy Developer | Southern Union



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Re: Using AIE to restore Asset Data

2009-12-10 Thread Pierson, Shawn
I've just come up with a way to solve my problem.  I am matching on the TokenID 
field, but I copied the contents of the InstanceID field over to the TokenID so 
it is truly unique now, and I don't have to worry about duplicate CI Names, 
Serial Numbers, etc.

Thanks,

Shawn Pierson

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**
Note that you can use multiple fields for identification in reconciliation.  
So, if you can define a groups of fields that uniquely identifies each asset, 
you should be able to import the backup data into a dataset, identify between 
them using this group of fields, and then merge them.  Note that what you're 
currently having to do provides a good justification for at least running an 
auto-identification activity on your gold dataset, even if you never merge 
anything in from another dataset, because then you know that you have a single 
field that you can use to identify assets if you ever have to do this again.

Lyle

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We didn't do any reconciliations because the users who own this data don't 
trust automation (which unfortunately did cause the problem in this case) so 
they wanted to perform the creation and updates of Computer System CIs manually.

My plan was to use AIE, but since the data I want to fix is limited to the 
computer system data itself, I may just try doing it all through SQL and 
getting it fixed faster even if it's not the recommended way.

Thanks,

Shawn

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Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 12:15 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Using AIE to restore Asset Data

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Are you saying that you have a backup of the Asset data that was in Remedy?  
Does that backup include the Reconciliation ID?  If it does, then you don't 
need to match on anything, you would simply need to do a Merge between the 
datasets, because everything should already be matched up (by definition, 
anything that has a recon id (something other than zero) is already matched to 
something, so it doesn't try to identify it again).  You might need to define 
Precedence rules to only set the fields that have gone missing (to avoid 
overwriting any other data that may have changed since the backup), though.

Lyle

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[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Pierson, Shawn
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 10:29 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Using AIE to restore Asset Data

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Good morning,

We had a recent problem where a bunch of our Asset data was wiped out.  The 
records exist, but some of the fields were made null.  I came up with the idea 
of using AIE to fix this problem by restoring the Asset data from a backup and 
treating it as external data to import.

However, I've been told that I can't match on either the Request ID or the 
Instance ID, so I am curious if anyone here knows of a system generated unique 
id that I can use to match the old record with the new record.

Thanks,

Shawn Pierson
Remedy Developer | Southern Union



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