Re: [art] Personal statement about commitment [was: Art Project ]
Hi Johannes, all, thanks for asking this question - having finished my reply I think it is worthwhile to share it on both lists, because I feel committed to Art and Branding. Johannes Bausch schrieb: I wonder why there are no mails I receive. Previously I received like three or four mails per day. Is this project dead or did I do something wrong? As you just came back a few days ago, I'd like to tell you a bit what happened during the last year or so: You probably remember our activities creating a new logo proposal for the OOoCon 2009 at Orvieto. At the same time Sun worked on their own version of a new OOo logo and released it after the final announcement of the Oracle acquisition in January. Myself and few other had been allowed to comment on it beforehand, but our concerns didn't lead to any changes. At Orvieto we discussed the possibility of an independent Branding project to focus better on the overall visual design of OpenOffice.org, but I've been told, that another marketing sub-project would fit better. As there have been many topics to work on (all the visuals needed to be replaced by artwork containing the new logo and we wanted to do it on a consistent basis) I agreed to postpone the idea of this independent project. On January 29th the branding mailing list (brand...@marketing.openoffice.org) has been established and most of the discussions previously taking place on the Art mailing list have been moved over there. Rosana Ardila from Sun/Oracle has been told to communicate between the trademark owner and the community, but while the list was quite active in the beginning, brand...@marketing is nearly as quiet as a...@marketing. While the trademark for the new logo still isn't established and people have to ask Oracle for any usage of the logo, we tried to define branding guidelines about how to use the logo (and what should be avoided) - but since nearly one month there has been no activity there at all (Rosana's last mail told us that she would rejoin us after the first of October). As you probably know, some community members decided to establish an independent foundation without the dependency on one single commercial contributor. I joined this effort, because I saw a chance to achieve a real community based project under the umbrella of an independent foundation. I had to learn during the last years, that proposals and artwork from outside Sun had a very hard way to become relevant in the product (only the splash screens and derived artwork) and in central parts of our visual identity. In The Document Foundation and LibreOffice adaption of good ideas is easier because it doesn't depend on one single company's identity and marketing strategy (we not even know about in OpenOffice.org). I still want to improve OpenOffice.org's consistency in branding, visual identity and artwork, but it's just a matter of time, that I don't have as much time for this task as before: LibreOffice (and TDF) branding is just at the beginning of being defined - and having my points heard there (and my proposals seen and considered) is really satisfactory. I don't see any conflict of interests as I don't have to raise one product higher than the other - I hope both will do their best to bring more and more people away from closed office applications and towards the best open source office suite in the world - whether it may be called OpenOffice.org or LibreOffice. Best regards Bernhard PS: Sorry Alicia for hijacking your thread, but my reply just became longer and longer... 2010/10/25 Alicia Marroquinalliemari...@gmail.com: I am emailing as instructed. I am a veil painter artist and I have also designed my own businesses advertising designs. I'd like to contribute for Art Project -- Fair Seas...Alicia Ms. Alicia R. Marroquin MA,RN, Chaplain Phd Clinical Nurse Specialist in Psychiatry Mental Health Chaplain Services, on Land Sea tel. usa 910.874.7200 or 360.473. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] Logo for our 10th Anniversary - design proposal
Hi Peter, * Peter Junge schrieb: Bernhard Dippold wrote: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/User:BeDipp#personal_sandbox Please have a look at it and comment, criticize, discuss this proposal. Simply +1! Thanks Peter! If there are no other comments during the next hours, I'll send it to the d...@marketing list requesting to approve it as official logo for the anniversary... Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] Logo for our 10th Anniversary - design proposal
Hi Ivan, Ivan M *schrieb: Hi Bernhard, all, (still alive... very busy though) Better than the other way round... ;-) http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/User:BeDipp#personal_sandbox Looks great - well done Miguel and Bernhard! I can only one suggestion, and that is to limit the colors to OOo blue and black (currently there is also a dark blue in there). I had it in black and OOo blue only (see http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/File:M_plus_1p_numbers.PNG), but this led to more importance of the 10 and less importance of the OOo logo. So I came back to Miguel's color code with a dark blue (middle between black and OOo blue). I can imagine, that we'll use this dark blue for some accent color in the branding color language. Do you think this is reasonable? Best regard Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[art] Logo for our 10th Anniversary - design proposal
Hi all, as you probably know, OpenOffice.org will celebrate it's 10th anniversary on October 13th - just a few weeks ahead. Even if there is still no certainty about how to use the new logo, it's very likely that we can use the logo to design a specialized logo for this extraordinary event. With his introduction last month, Miguel Boto presented us an impressing idea about such a logo on the branding mailing list: http://marketing.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=brandingmsgNo=411 I used this one as basis and adapted it to the still unfinished logo usage guidelines. I changed the whitespace area around the OOo logo (at least half the height of the large O distance to other elements) as well as the font (probably M plus 1p will become the officially recommended font for textual elements accompanying the logo). http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/User:BeDipp#personal_sandbox Please have a look at it and comment, criticize, discuss this proposal. I'd like to present it soon on d...@marketing, so people can use it for our website, linking to dedicated sub-pages. Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] Contribution
Hi AmyMarie, (CC'ing you directly because you have not been subscribed to the mailing list when you sent your mail) AmyMarie Karow schrieb: To Whom It May Concern: You sent your mail to the mailing list of the OpenOffice.org Art Project. That's the right place to discuss and provide artwork for OpenOffice.org. So you already reached the people interested in this area like yourself. I am available and interested in contributing my design services. Please let me know if you have any projects currently in need of completion. Hopefully we can work together to better the OpenOffice project. If you want to contribute to the basics of the new OpenOffice.org design, please join our Branding Initiative, where we currently define a consistent look-and-feel for any appearance of OpenOffice.org. One of the task we're working actively is the creation of a guideline how and in which surroundings our new logo should be used. Input from designers is very valuable, because the guidelines should combine the freedom of artistic work with the protection of our brand and logo. Don't hesitate to join us on brand...@marketing.openoffice.org by subscribing to the mailing list as described in our wiki [1]. Best regards Bernhard [1]: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Branding_Mailing_List - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] artwork for OpenOffice.org [was: Open Office]
Hi Jacek, welcome to the OpenOffice.org Art Project! As your mail had to be moderated I'm CC'ing you, so you won't miss the reply. Jacek Gaudasinski schrieb: Dear Open Office, I have been enjoying the benefits of your product for a year now. I find it much better than Microsoft Office. Thanks! Even if most of us here have never coded any line (most of us started as happy users like you), we are happy that other people have similar feelings about the software... As I am an illustrator and a graphic designer I would like to contribute some work to your project. [...] We really appreciate your offer - from time to time we've been quite active creating artwork for OpenOffice.org, now work has stalled a bit (mainly because of the unfinished trademark policy for the new OpenOffice.org logo). What is to be done now is a definition of guidelines how the logo should be used as well as the general visual style we need for a consistent branding. If you are interested in such kind of work, don't hesitate to join our Branding Initiative and subscribe to it's mailing list brand...@marketing.openoffice.org too. In our wiki you can find most of the information we collected for Art and Branding. Please have a look at the starting pages http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Art and http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Branding_Initiative and at the sub-pages linked from them. And if you have questions, find lacking information or want to start on a certain topic, please come back here (or to brand...@ooo, depending on the topic). Please let me know whether you are interested considering my very distinct style. Speaking for myself, I like the detailed and narrative style you showed at the work you linked to in your mail. For the product something like your graphic design work (especially the logo and company design at the funnyandnotso page) might be even more relevant - if you want to be involved in our branding efforts - but for marketing I could imagine campaigns and artwork based on your neo-surrealistic style too. Welcome again to our team! Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] I'd Like to Contribute!
Hi Melissa, just a few hours before you another new contributor joined our Art Project: Jacek Gaudasinski. Please don't get me wrong, if I ask you to read the reply I sent to his posting, but my time is quite short today: http://marketing.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=artmsgNo=4149 (This mail didn't reach the archive by now, so I guessed the msgNo. As attachments are stripped off by the mailing list server, I attach the mail here in order to inform you while the mailing list members shouldn't be annoyed by unnecessary download volume. Be assured, that your contribution is appreciated very much! melissa e vandiver schrieb: Hi, I downloaded OpenOffice.org, and I'm excited because it's going to help me get my new business running. I'm a big supporter of the open-source movement and I'd like to help you guys out. I can't do any coding or anything but I am proficient in graphic design and I am a professional fine artist, so I have that to contribute. I hope I can help! I'm sure you can! Welcome to our team! Best regards Bernhard ---BeginMessage--- Hi Jacek, welcome to the OpenOffice.org Art Project! As your mail had to be moderated I'm CC'ing you, so you won't miss the reply. Jacek Gaudasinski schrieb: Dear Open Office, I have been enjoying the benefits of your product for a year now. I find it much better than Microsoft Office. Thanks! Even if most of us here have never coded any line (most of us started as happy users like you), we are happy that other people have similar feelings about the software... As I am an illustrator and a graphic designer I would like to contribute some work to your project. [...] We really appreciate your offer - from time to time we've been quite active creating artwork for OpenOffice.org, now work has stalled a bit (mainly because of the unfinished trademark policy for the new OpenOffice.org logo). What is to be done now is a definition of guidelines how the logo should be used as well as the general visual style we need for a consistent branding. If you are interested in such kind of work, don't hesitate to join our Branding Initiative and subscribe to it's mailing list brand...@marketing.openoffice.org too. In our wiki you can find most of the information we collected for Art and Branding. Please have a look at the starting pages http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Art and http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Branding_Initiative and at the sub-pages linked from them. And if you have questions, find lacking information or want to start on a certain topic, please come back here (or to brand...@ooo, depending on the topic). Please let me know whether you are interested considering my very distinct style. Speaking for myself, I like the detailed and narrative style you showed at the work you linked to in your mail. For the product something like your graphic design work (especially the logo and company design at the funnyandnotso page) might be even more relevant - if you want to be involved in our branding efforts - but for marketing I could imagine campaigns and artwork based on your neo-surrealistic style too. Welcome again to our team! Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org ---End Message--- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] I'd Like to Contribute!
Hi all, Bernhard Dippold schrieb: [...] As attachments are stripped off by the mailing list server, I attach the mail here in order to inform you while the mailing list members shouldn't be annoyed by unnecessary download volume. Sorry, attachment hasn't been stripped off :-( There seem to be more file types coming through than I thought. Sorry again for any inconveniences... Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] Art page with the new logo
Hi Alexandro, all Alexandro Colorado schrieb: so we should still use the old logo for all marketing-related events? If you want to be on the secure side, you will need to ask for allowance for every usage of the new logo until the trademark policy has been released. Our not yet finished branding guideline shows how we want the logo to be presented, but allowance to do so can only be granted by the trademark owner of the image mark. I'll forward this mail to the branding and trademark teams, but I don't know if we can speed up these processes at all... Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] Art page with the new logo
Hi Alexandro, all, thanks for the reminder! Alexandro Colorado schrieb: Some time ago, the wiki had some of the new logos set in place however the marketing.openoffice.org/art still show the old logos, should we update this? I updated the most important pages (IMHO) - please have a look, if the content and my wording is ok. http://marketing.openoffice.org/art and try to create the new modifications for the logos?? Please have a look at my other mail in this thread. Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] Art page with the new logo
Alexandro Colorado schrieb: I'll just use my own logo probably. ... if you think that serves OpenOffice.org best ... :-( Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] New task for the Art Project? Create high quality clipart galleries!
Hi Ivan, * Ivan M schrieb: Hi all, (resurrecting an old thread here) indeed, I started this thread nearly a year ago: http://marketing.openoffice.org/servlets/BrowseList?list=artby=threadfrom=2256912 A while ago we had a discussion about improving OOo's gallery and the website to allow people easier access to clipart. Well, it seems this is on the priority list according to Kai Ahrens [1]: [...] Adding support for media content from external repositories (e.g. cliparts from openclipart.org or the mentioned YouTube content) is one of the things being on top of our ToDo List. As such, we're already evaluating different solutions. IMO, an enhanced OOo Gallery will be the essential part to manage such content. Underlying core functionality needs to be added appropriately, of course. I'm currently not able to give you a detailed timeline, but please be assured that we already have this in focus. This might be something to keep an eye out for. If someone is interested, the clipart page in the artwork gallery is still alive: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Art/Gallery/Cliparts Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] Posters for OOo
Hi Alexandro, * Alexandro Colorado schrieb: Hi is there any links for posters done by the art team? I am looking for some for a meeting that will be handled in NY next week. So any good template with a good background would be nice. I think there were some on the Wiki. The existing OOo posters are linked from the artwork gallery: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Art/Gallery/PostersBannersFlyers Unfortunately none of them contains the new OOo logo (not only because nobody created one, but because the trademark policy defining it's allowed usage is still under evaluation by Oracle legal). I think that the ALA team created a poster or banner with the new logo (Drew Jensen and Andy Brown discussed about it on brand...@marketing). Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] Style for the colour-blind
Hi Bill, Ivan, all (Bill, I don't know if you have subscribed to this list by now, so I'm CC'ing you) Ivan M schrieb: Hi Bill, On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Bill Cameronrockerbi...@ntlworld.com wrote: I've just registered with OpenOffice, so do not know if this has been addressed already. First of all, thanks for your email and welcome to the OpenOffice.org project. I, along with a surprisingly large proportion (7%-10%) of the male population, struggle with Daltonism (colour-blindness). I have worked on print production and found very little sympathy for my condition - I suppose most of us avoid such circumstances. At least from my part it has not been avoidance, but just ignorance (not much better, I know) - I didn't think about color-blind people when doing my designs. [...] I would like this to be properly considered as you are offering the chance to become involved. This is not only an offer, it's really an invitation! Only if there are people interested in improving a situation, modifications can take place. So please join our team, subscribe to this mailing list (if you didn't do so already) and tell us when we present new artwork, if this can be improved for color blind people. We are working on a general revision of our visual presentation in public - here we should try consider these aspects too. If you are interested in this area, please join the dedicated mailing list brand...@marketing.openoffice.org. And if you want to help improving the general user interface for impaired people, there is another OpenOffice.org project http://ui.openoffice.org/accessibility/ with a dedicated mailing list: accessibil...@ui.openoffice.org. OpenOffice.org is a project of many people spending their time and effort to improve our product. If you would have time and interest to join this effort, we would be glad to have you on board... Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[art] Re: [branding/art] assistance in moderation
Hi Florian, all, I'm already moderating a...@marketing and brand...@marketing. Art has some more mails, Branding just a few - both are manageable by a single moderator. As you mentioned other lists in need for moderators, it might help you more if these lists would be considered as working areas for new moderators. But if someone wants to support me here, don't hesitate to raise your hand. Best regards Bernhard Florian Effenberger schrieb: Hello, as you might be aware, the OpenOffice.org mailing lists have so-called moderators. E-mails from people who are not subscribed, or e-mails from people using a different address than they are subscribed with, are sent to the moderators for approval. This is to avoid spam, and that's also what we mostly get -- spam. Nontheless, sometimes a valid e-mail finds its way to the list, but sadly, I don't find the time to moderate all lists, so only once in a while I can moderate a message through. So here's a call for help. ;-) The list(s) I post this message to can use one or two additional moderators who share the duty. Anyone interested in helping out? Technically spoken, it's easy to work on: Spam messages can simply be ignored, and other messages can be moderated just by replying via e-mail. The amount of mails per list (incl. spam) per day varies from 5-20, I'd say, so if everyone just picks one or two lists, the mail flood shouldn't be too excessive. Any support would be greatly appreciated! :-) Florian - To unsubscribe, e-mail: branding-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: branding-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] Branding/ODF icons
Hi Andy, all, I'd like to shift this discussion to the branding list - even if this topic has been a central theme of our work here on the art list in the past, the new list is especially designed to cover such questions. So please follow up at brand...@marketing.openoffice.org. Andy Brown schrieb: Hi all, Has there been any head way made on the new colors/icons/logos? I have not seen any thing come through the art,branding or marketing list nor on any of the web sites. I'm still working on the branding wiki pages: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Branding_Initiative The inform page has nearly been finished (as a first draft): http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Branding_Initiative/Inform The two remaining pages are still empty: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Branding_Initiative/Find http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Branding_Initiative/Contribute As my time is limited, any help is highly appreciated. I wanted to inform the branding list, when I finished the inform page, but there are just a few phrases lacking... For the ODF icons Ivan pointed you to the disc...@ux list, where this task is being worked on: Ivan M wrote; Please check the UX mailing list as some discussion has been going on there too [...]: http://ux.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=discussmsgNo=4684 http://ux.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=discussmsgNo=4685 About new colors and logo: There is some work going on, that should be able to be announced in public in the near future. If I'll have the time, I'd like to start collecting branding relevant elements form all our appearances in public even before this announcement, but this would mean to inform the whole community about our initiative and ask for help. I'd like it better, if we could present a working wiki at this time... Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] Monochrome/grayscale CD label please
Hi Adam, * as you are not subscribed to the mailing list, I CC'd you. For any other replies please have a look at the archives or subscribe to the list. awilkin...@wheeze.plus.com schrieb: Dear Art, Am thinking of becoming a small scale community distributor for schools in my locality. I thought I would use lightscribe to label the CDs and then put them in transparent PVC wallets. Do you have a CD label which is optimised for monochrome/grayscale reproduction? Not yet, but perhaps someone here in the Art Project is interested in reworking the present CD label in greylevel or monochrome: http://marketing.openoffice.org/art/galleries/cdart/ Does anybody know about the resolution of lightscribe? Would it be more reasonable to have monochrome graphics with a hatching pattern instead of graylevel? Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] Monochrome/grayscale CD label please
Hi David, * david flaherty schrieb: do we have an original for the bezier curves i-m seeing in the cd graphics? Did you have a look at the SVG source mentioned at the CD gallery page: http://marketing.openoffice.org/art/galleries/cdart/3.0/OOo3_CD_label_nc.svg I created the label with inkscape, so conversion should be easy... i can-t mask the graduated dots on the reflection without the original... Please try it out :-) Best regards Bernhard On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 8:14 AM, Bernhard Dippold bernh...@familie-dippold.at wrote: Hi Adam, * as you are not subscribed to the mailing list, I CC'd you. For any other replies please have a look at the archives or subscribe to the list. awilkin...@wheeze.plus.com schrieb: Dear Art, Am thinking of becoming a small scale community distributor for schools in my locality. I thought I would use lightscribe to label the CDs and then put them in transparent PVC wallets. Do you have a CD label which is optimised for monochrome/grayscale reproduction? Not yet, but perhaps someone here in the Art Project is interested in reworking the present CD label in greylevel or monochrome: http://marketing.openoffice.org/art/galleries/cdart/ Does anybody know about the resolution of lightscribe? Would it be more reasonable to have monochrome graphics with a hatching pattern instead of graylevel? Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[art] Branding Initiative first steps - join the dedicated mailing list
Hi all, I'd like to invite you to join our activities for a consistent OOo branding. Even if artwork is one of the basic tools for a consistent and successful branding, contributions from other areas are necessary. Therefore we decided to establish an initiative like the UX project did with Renaissance: We started a new mailing list brand...@marketing.openoffice.org and hope that all active Art Project members subscribe to this mailing list (send an empty mail to branding-subscr...@marketing.openoffice.org and reply to the automated confirmation mail) where we're going to start the activities already mentioned at the wiki page where we collected ideas for a new artwork and branding project: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Design_Artwork_and_Branding_Project_Proposal I created a first draft of a starting page for this initiative, that should cover all the areas we want to address for a consistent branding. It's just a first idea and the links don't lead to any real content, but you might get an idea of what I mean... http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Branding_Initiative Please comment on the branding list (or improve the page and it's subpages by your own...). Best regards Bernhard PS: When the wiki pages are in a state that everybody can understand our goals, I'd like to invite the other projects (website, UX, documentation, native-lang ...) to join and work on a general branding and a consistent visual identity. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] Art Projects: Submission
Hi Levi, as you haven't been subscribed to the mailing list I had to moderate your mail (therefore it took two days until it reached the list). Levi Gailums schrieb: Hello Marketing Staff/Support: We are volunteers interested in furthering OpenOffice.org :-) I am a new member of OpenOffice.org. I viewed the pages pertaining to 'Art Projects' with interest and inquiry. While the site encourages the production of graphics and other art forms, I am curious as to how to submit those artistic productions. Please have a look at our wiki where we tried to give some advise: http://wiki.services.openofffice.org/wiki/Art You can upload your work to the wiki (you have to be registered there) and link from the gallery to your artwork. I hope to hear back from someone and look forward to the possibility of working on some projects for your department. We call our entity project because we are a community of dedicated people, no company. But if you want to contribute some artwork, this would be highly appreciated. If you would let us know about your new contributions, we could have a look at them. Just drop us a mail here to the list. Please subscribe to this mailing list by sending an (empty) mail to art-subscr...@marketing.openoffice.org and reply to the confirmation mail. After that you'll be able to send your mails to all the members of the art project via the mailing list a...@marketing.openoffice.org. At the same time you'll receive all the mails other people send to the list. Pleas be aware that this list is public, so don't send any confidential information. At the moment we are starting a new initiative for a consistent branding and visual design throughout all the public appearances of OpenOffice.org. If you are interested in such work too, please subscribe to the dedicated mailing list brand...@marketing.openoffice.org too. Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] graphics for pamphlet (was: OpenOffice.org Logo)
Hi Andy, late reply - perhaps you don't need the graphic anymore... Andy Brown schrieb: Hi Bernhard, [...] Also, Bernhard, if when you have time please send me a copy of the graphic you used as the background for the pamphlet you did. I uploaded the SVG source of the image to the wiki: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/File:Splash_background_letter.svg If you prefer the finalized PNG graphic, I can send it to you as a private mail (1,8 MB). What I found out looking at the final pamphlet version is, that it is licensed under CC by-sa, while the splash screen I used as graphical basis is LGPL. As we can't relicense the splash under a different license, I modified the license text on the folder: CC by-sa is valid for the text, LGPL for the graphics. I uploaded the new versions of the files to the wiki: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/File:Pamphlet_BD.pdf http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/File:Pamphlet_BD.odt (each of the files is larger than 3 MB!) Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[art] OOo Branding
Hi all, thanks Florian for posting this message. Even if we wanted to give our feedback much earlier, our spare time is limited and we wanted to provide a summary we both can support... As nobody replied so far, we are happy to address all your open questions ;-) (Or is time at yours as limited as ours?) You're welcome to comment the summary and ask questions to any of the topics we discussed, but in the meantime I'd like to go on with the agenda for the branding initiative. As you read in the summary I don't insist on establishing a top level OOo branding project at the moment, because we need the time and effort for work on the content instead of architecture (and because of the similar goals with marketing). As new working area we thought of a dedicated mailing list, an area in the wiki and a starting page from the OOo site. As mailing list he already created brand...@marketing.openoffice.org For the wiki I'd propose http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/branding and as entry point from the OOo site we should use http://marketing.openoffice.org/branding Wiki page and website page haven't been created by now, but if you don't have any concerns we create them soon. During the next days I'd like to start two actions to get this initiative working: 1) Collect thoughts about our main branding directive as basis for our work. This the most important point because all our visual representation should aim at the goals the community wants to reach with our product and our project. A consistent visual concept for all graphical representation of OpenOffice.org will help a lot in this area - thats one of the main goals of the branding initiative. 2) Invite people from any related project (art, marketing, website, UX, documentation, native-lang projects come to my mind) to join the initiative and play a part there contributing the thoughts and visual ideas already existent in their projects and bringing back to these projects the results of our discussions and recommendations. After that we should start to work on the topics already mentioned in the Hamburg meeting summary. Florian Effenberger schrieb: [...] Action items for the branding project/initiative: - Determine all branding relevant areas inside the OOo projects, look how branding is done at the moment and involve the people working on these areas in the common effort of creating a consistent branding. - Define the right number of general branding elements (we found two or three should be enough if they are presented with similar graphical surrounding wherever applicable). Find out, which one of the present can be used unchanged, which need an update, which should be dropped. - Define guidelines for the right usage of the branding elements. [...] Such a change needs a certain amount of time to lead to a consistent content of website(s), product, documentation and marketing material. Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] Hi
Hi Jacob, Jacob Preston schrieb: hi, Just a quick hello. I'm new here and this is my first attempt at joining an open source group. Welcome on board - I hope you will enjoy our group as I (and hopefully most of us) do. Mainly my skills are in Photoshop work (Having studied Photography and it being a personal hobby) but i would like to learn how to do vector art as I have little experience in this area. In this area of the project i would say my strengths would be in icon design and banner design. We do need such skills in the nearest future, when it comes to create a unified branding by a consistent look and feel throughout all areas of OpenOffice.org. [...] I look forward to helping in the project Please subscribe to this mailing list (this avoids moderating your mails to the list and you'll get all the mails from other project members directly in your inbox). If you aren't unsure how to do this, please have a look at our wiki: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Art For any open questions, just mail us... Best regards and welcome again! Bernhard PS: As I don't know if you read the replies here on the mailing list, I CC'd you. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] OpenOffice.org Logo
Hi Andy, * Andy wrote: Hi Bernhard, If I can get the graphic by the first of May we will be in good shape. If there is not one available by then I will just use the standard OO.o 3 logo. This time might be appropriate - we'll see... Also the aspect ratio needs to be 5385 X 2265 to make the final image sharp on the banner. OK - I hope I'll remember the size ;-) Also, Bernhard, if when you have time please send me a copy of the graphic you used as the background for the pamphlet you did. I'm not at home for the next days, so this might take a bit of time. Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] OpenOffice.org Logo
Hi Andy, * Andy Brown wrote: Has anyone made a logo, official, for the 10th Anniversary yet? Preferably in PNG format. Looking to use as a banner. I'm sorry, but I think we'll not have any official logo for the anniversary during the next weeks. We are just starting an initiative to create a more consistent branding throughout all areas of OOo (I'll have finished my summary of the branding meeting at Hamburg this weekend), so we can't tell you now about the design we'll have for the anniversary. It would be great if it was possible to promote the anniversary already on ALA. Do you know, when will be the last possible time to print such a banner? As ALA will be in June, I could imagine, that we could provide a banner in about four weeks. Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] :: New Web Buttons ::
Hi Brian, all, I'm back again from Hamburg, but will post about the meeting tomorrow... For now just a few remarks regarding your new web buttons, Brian: Brian Coale schrieb: [...] I posted some new Glass web buttons here: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Art/Gallery/WebButtons#Brian_Coale for anyone who wanted a nice fancy button on their site showing their support for OpenOffice.org. The buttons really look fancy and glassy, but you already mentioned: [...] they don't follow the standard design and colors of much of the marketing material, You know that we try to strengthen the visual impression of OpenOffice.org by reproducing the same look and feel in every representation of our product and our project. Even if your buttons look good, they don't provide the positive recognition of the product - mainly because of the colors differing quite a lot from the blue tone of our logo or the application colors from the icons. but what I've noticed is that many, many web buttons out there (for many different products) only loosely follow branding guidelines. You are totally right, most of our web buttons don't respect the idea of a unique OOo branding - they are quite old, but we didn't have newer ones. But this doesn't mean that we don't want to have a strong branding and a good recognition by our users. I added the standard information about official and additional galleries to the wiki page, but even if the official buttons are very much outdated, I'm thinking about adding another, more stronger suggestion to use the official ones to the page. As it will hopefully not take too much time to come to a consistent branding for OOo, I don't want new official buttons to be created now - we need to define the style before. However, the OOo logo is unaltered The smallest logo doesn't contain the gulls - without them the logo is modified in a way the trademark holder doesn't want to see in public (neither do I ;-) ) except for being reverse-type, which is typical usage for logos shown over dark backgrounds. White logos are possible on dark monochrome background, for colored background the colored logos (on dark: whiteblue) should be used. I can hardly read your logos, I'm quite sure that this is caused by the small difference in brightness between the logo colors and the text. Also I've used slogans I've seen on other marketing materials I've seen around the project. Whether or not these are official slogans, I don't know. The present official slogan is Open. For Business, but it has been established in 2006 IIRC. Other slogans are even older, so we need to define a slogan fitting with our new position in market, our anniversary and other parts of the main marketing strategy. It's a pity that neither this strategy nor a resulting slogan has been considered on the general marketing mailing list d...@marketing.openoffice.org. But the active people in the marketing project don't have had the time to do so... I've offered them in dark gray and blue, other colors are available upon request. The only color that might fit with our goals could be the dark blue (RGB 6,52,140) from our logo. Let me know what you think, comments, criticism and faint praise are welcomed! Sorry for not being totally positive, but I'm driven by the thought of a general branding effort. When we come to a decision about the branding project, there will be a lot to do in order to define and establish the artwork we want to be supported. Please join this effort too! Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] Open Office Icons
Hi Mike, I'm sorry, but I don't know any reason to use your icons with regards to OpenOffice.org. Michael W schrieb: Hello my name is Mike W. I am making a resource for the open source community it's a icon resource free to use free to download free to upload on your site open office. Here are the Downloads: http://www.bitpic.com/downloads/ Project details: 3,956,995 True WxH Original Pictures using black pictures elements. You're creating square areas of rings - half of them filled with black color. If I understand you right, you want to provide all possible combinations of these filled and unfilled rings in areas from 2x2 to 8x8 rings. [...] You can download these and offer them on Open Office for icon designers to use them. i can't imagine why a designer should use your icons instead of creating the one she needs on her own... If you want us to use them, please tell us more about the way they will contribute to OpenOffice.org. Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] OpenOffice.org Identity a little close to that of Coffee Sweetener?
By the way, for all of you subscribed to d...@marketing: Did you read about the funding request for Florian and my travel to Hamburg [1]? If you think this trip is worthwhile spending OOo marketing money, please vote for it (if you didn't already). Community support is important for such action, so don't hesitate to express your opinion. Best regards Bernhard [1]: http://marketing.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=devmsgNo=28982 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] OpenOffice.org Identity a little close to that of Coffee Sweetener?
Hi Steven, Nik, all, Steven Shelton schrieb: On 1/7/2010 7:31 AM, Nikash V. SINGH wrote: The similarities are FAR too coincidental, and unintentional or not, this issue needs to be addressed otherwise it could lead to legal issues, or more pressing from my point of view, it would compromise the integrity of the Art project. I don't really see this as a major issue. At least in the States (and I'm assuming its similar elsewhere), there could only be legal issues of the similarity of the logos would tend to create confusion in the minds of consumers. I don't think there's any way one could make any realistic argument that such is the case here. I agree with you, Steven, on this point, but looking at the other point Nik raises here, we should take the chance to use this coincidence to drop at least the shape of the dots when we look for branding elements to be kept for the new overall design. Nik wrote: By looking at that image, I think it should be obvious that Equal has more right to use these motifs than OpenOffice.org does [...] I feel strongly that the coloured dots should not be added to the OOo identity, not with such little relevance or thought [...] I don't think that we can be called brand borrowers just because of the dots (the wire gulls have been compared to Adobe IIRC), but they don't serve well for a strong branding identity. What I wanted to say is, that the community's vote has brought us the OOo3 splash screen that we use for over a year now. As long as we don't have a general branding identity I want to keep the elements we have - but the new project will probably be a good reason to replace weak elements by stronger ones without waiting for OOo4. Right now OOo is plagued with arbitrary Design motifs; - The mishaped gulls - The wireframe gulls (which are showing their age as Design elements) - The reverse-s which is used ad-hoc per design item - A 3 which appears every so often with no fixed location, scale or typeface I am totally on-board with you on these issues, however. Same with me - there is quite a lot of work to do... Let's find out what can be reached with Sun in the meeting next week. Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] OpenOffice.org Identity a little close to that of Coffee Sweetener?
Hi Brian, all, sorry for responding late, but the family deserves more time these days... Brian Coale schrieb: Ok, don't hate me for this, no - never ;-) but am I the only one who's noticed that the OOo3 splash screen, web buttons, and other materials using that same theme are strikingly similar to Equal's (the sugar substitute) packaging and identity? As we can't buy Equal in Austria and Germany, I for one didn't know about the similarity. Consider this: http://briancoale.com/stuff/Equal-OOo3.png If you compare the images directly, you see the differences - and I don't think there is any chance to change Equal's branding ... But I don't want to change our own branding without a really good reason because many people recognize OOo by it's graphical representation. If we want/wanted to avoid this resemblance, we should have done it before this splash screen become official - or we should change it when OOo branding is reconsidered/reworked from the basis with the new branding project. In fact, from my POV it's a positive result of OOo branding, if you think of OOo when you see Equal's advertisements. :-) Thanks for letting us know! Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] Next steps towards a new ArtBranding project = f2f meeting with community and Sun
Hi all, just to keep you informed: during the last weeks there have not been much activity on that topic here on this list or on the others I informed. A few interested people added their names to the list on the wiki page [1]. But I answered some questions off-list and got in closer contact with Sun people interested in this topic too. Especially Rosana Ardila (perhaps you know her by the marketing videos she worked on during the last months) wants to work closely together with us on this topic. I've been invited to Sun's site at Hamburg for two days in mid-January (12th/13th), where I'm going to meet Rosana and some of the core people of the OpenOffice.org project: Stefan Taxhet, Louis Suarez-Potts, Florian Effenberger and Cor Nouws - others (like John McCreesh, Christoph Noack and Ivan Miskovic) will be involved by phone. In this group we are searching for the best way to create a consistent OOo branding, that can be shared by Sun and the community and finds it right place among trademark, licensing and legal prosecution, logo and graphical elements, usability, style guides and support by the entire project. I'm not quite sure, what the results of this meeting will be, but I'll keep you informed - this topic is not sleeping, even if the activity is not always seen on the surface. Best regards Bernhard [1]:http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Design_Artwork_and_Branding_Project_Proposal#People_interested_in_active_contribution - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] Need some help
Hi Andy, all, Andy Brown schrieb: Bernhard Dippold wrote: Hi Andy, After registration to the wiki at http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Special:UserLogin upload the file http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Special:Upload and post the link here on the list. If you have any problems, I could upload it for you (if you didn't work on v5 in between, otherwise please send me the new file). Uploaded at http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/File:OOoPamphletv5a.odt . Hope someone can do something with it. I removed the original graphic and added the OpenOffice.org 3 logo. I started before Jens uploaded his work, so I finished my version of your work too: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/File:Pamphlet_BD.odt I used the graphics from the OOo3 splash screen. Best regards Bernhard -- Andy Brown La Mesa, CA 91942 www.the-martin-byrd.net/openoffice.org.html OpenOffice.org Community Distributor CD/OEM Distribution Project member Documentation Project member Marketing Project member User Experience Project member - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] Need some help
Hi Andy, all Andy Brown schrieb: I have a pamphlet, tri fold, that I am told needs some graphics to make it better. Is there anyone here willing to give it a go? If so I can send the ODT file, just let me know. I already got the file - but unfortunately didn't have the time to comment and work on it during the last weeks. Andy, would you mind uploading it to the wiki? As already mentioned in the thread on d...@marketing [1], the flyer is mainly text based and lacks some graphical elements. Has anybody time to have a look at it? Best regards Bernhard [1]: http://marketing.openoffice.org/servlets/BrowseList?list=devby=threadfrom=2317594 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] Logo files updated - please review...
Hi Raz, * Raz Cumbe schrieb: Hi Bernhard, Have you already created an account on the wiki? http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Special:UserLogin I created an account on the wiki and I'm all set. All buttons are uploaded. I'm going to integrate them in the button gallery [1] - or at least the first ones to show you how to do that. Let me know if you think there should be some changes to them. I think there was one where the 3 looked a little choppy. I may want to go back and fix that one. I'll be back on the topic, when they are reachable via the gallery. Best regards Bernhard [1]: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Art/Gallery/WebButtons - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] Logo files updated - please review...
Hi Raz, Raz Cumbe schrieb: [...] I have finished the web buttons. Do I upload them to the same place as the logos? Please let me know. I'd rather upload them to the wiki and integrate them in the wiki page: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Art/Gallery/WebButtons (at the moment still empty) If you don't know how - please ask. Thanks Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] Logo files updated - please review...
Hi Raz, sorry for the late reply! Raz Cumbe schrieb: Hello Bernhard, What I noticed during the revision: One file (not provided by you, but uploaded earlier) seems to be corrupted: http://marketing.openoffice.org/art/galleries/logos/version3/grey/ooo-3-logo-grey-cmyk.eps Do you see a chance to update it? All Done! Thank you very much! I integrated it in the logo gallery: http://marketing.openoffice.org/art/galleries/logos/ Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[art] Re: [marketing] o...@fosdem - general merchandising material - request for designs!!!
Hi Jürgen, all, I'm forwarding this mail to the Art project. Perhaps we can produce some cool artwork for posters, banners and merchandising. Juergen Schmidt schrieb: Hi, as already communicated OOs will have again a stand at FOSDEM 2010. That means we have to think about our presence there. One thing is definitely to have some give aways in place which is common practice and which is of course a good opportunity to promote our office and to collect some donations as well. Do you want to order the merchandising at Hamburg, at Bruxelles or should they be produced elsewhere and sent to you? Sometimes the producers have special formats or limitations we need to respect - and I'd recommend to have a look at a prototype before the final production starts... On the fos...@marketing list i have already posted some initial ideas and because of the fact that we have again limited time i would like to ask for design ideas for - small circular sticker 50mm - lanyard keychains - cups - t-shirts Additional new ideas of other merchandising stuff are also welcome ;-) What's about USB sticks (with OOo) - perhaps too expensive for give-aways? The current official logo should be part of any design. The logo + something special. Special in the case that all people who bought a t-Shirt this year will buy the new shirt next year as well because of the coolness factor. Can achieve this??? I hope so ... Do you want this special addition to be specially designed for FOSDEM or should the items be reused on other fairs and events too? Additional to the merchandising stuff we should think about 1 or posters that can we use at our stand. Posters showing some important info that people should know We need also some kind of banner of so that we can put at front of the tables ... More ideas??? Perhaps a o...@fosdem web button? Best regards Bernhard Juergen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] ODF icon design
Hi all, just to inform you: I posted a link to the Artist Sandbox and to this thread on disc...@ux.openoffice.org [1], where the ODF icon discussion is evolving very well. At the moment we are collecting design principles from different platforms and distributions to find out, if there is a way to provide a set of icons that might be used without or with minor modifications only on their desktops. If someone is interested in this topic and not already subscribed to disc...@ux.openoffice.org, here is the link to the thread in the archive: http://ux.openoffice.org/servlets/BrowseList?list=discussby=threadfrom=2299760 Best regards Bernhard [1] not yet listed in the archives, but it should be probably this mail: http://ux.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=discussmsgNo=4469 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] ODF icon design
Hi Stefan, * Stefan Taxhet schrieb: Hi, It's interesting and encouraging to see how much activity a proposed change of the set of document icons can trigger. But I think it's unfortunate that the discussion tends to fray out. This is always a problem with topics affecting different teams and projects. If I want to involve experts on a certain subtopic, I have to join their group, ask for their opinion and support and come back with the results to the main discussion list. I know that some of you are already subscribed to disc...@ux and would suggest to others to do so (discuss-subscr...@ux.openoffice.org). Input from an artworker's point of view is certainly welcome there. Even if I support your invitation - not every artist is interested in UX (happens quite often in such a diversified project like OOo - not even all active contributors subscribe to disc...@ooo). Therefore I asked for support on the design here, collected the first ideas and will come back with the results to disc...@ux.ooo during the next days. Of course it means to repeat parts of the discussion held at the other places, but that's exactly the point: A discussion without involving the experts will not be as well funded as on their own list. It is important to keep the main discussion in one place, but for special questions we have to ask the specialists at their project. Like on d...@marketing the result of the work here will be transported to the UX project - and perhaps we'll see one or another Art Project member on disc...@ux.ooo because working on the topic raised his or her attention on the general idea of ODF icons. I don't konw if I can post the mail on disc...@ux.ooo today, but I'll do it as soon as possible. Best regards Bernhard In my eyes it is not possible to get optimal results, if we just If I only could set the reply-to: header, but that's a different story... Thanks Stefan Bernhard Dippold wrote: Martin Hollmichel schrieb: Hi Bernhard, Bernhard Dippold wrote: Hi Jens, Nik, all thanks for joining this task and for uploading your drafts. I'd like to comment on both of your designs and add a few thoughts not mentioned before (at least not here on this list): Jens: Your app icons look great, but I don't think we should change them in such a radical way with a minor release. If people don't recognize their applications and files, they might become upset... I find them interesting as well. On some colors the seagulls could have some more contrast... Representing the different file formats with other symbols might be a good idea (we should involve UX in that question), even if they are quite abstracted. I think the document icons should looks somehow like document, the shape you choose seem also too abstract for me. But for the present question there is one point to mention: ODF is not eye-catching at all - in fact, you have to search a bit to find the letters (this refers to both of your uploaded icons). Maybe this is the idea behind this, one day the users may associate that shape with ODF, but I have to admit that I'm a bit septic in this aspect ;-) For the moment, the goal with the new icons is to improve user knowledge about ODF - that's the reason why ODF is so prominent on the icons Stella designed. These icons might fit to a more general update to OpenOffice.org - when users know about ODF already (perhaps with OOo4?) [...] Even if I'm not able to design as high quality icons as you both, I uploaded what I think might be a basis of icons that could be used by other applications too: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/User:BeDipp#personal_sandbox but these still contain the seagulls ?! my understanding from what you've said is: ODF document icons should have no seagulls, the app icons should have them. Sorry, if I've not been clear enough: I still want application related symbols on the icons - they can be less prominent than the ODF eye-catcher, but removing them from Stellas iconset was one of the points I disagreed (besides the loss of file format related colors). I nearly don't mind the application on files that stay unchanged: Browser, viewer, player and so on. In these case the file format is the only important information. But if files are going to be modified, the application becomes important to the user: It makes really a difference if I work on an image with MS paint or GIMP. Same with Writer or gedit on a TXT file. And because of the different features of the ODF supporting applications I'd like to know if a double click opens my ODT file in Writer or any other app. Therefore I'd liek to keep the gull (or any other OOo representing symbol) on the document icons. And I can imagine other applications switching easier to a general ODF icon set, if they can add their app symbol to these icons. And: do we really need to go with the OASIS yellow or violet ? On that yellow I don't like either black or white
Re: [art] ODF icon design
Hi Martin, all, Martin Hollmichel schrieb: Hi Bernhard, Bernhard Dippold wrote: Hi Jens, Nik, all thanks for joining this task and for uploading your drafts. I'd like to comment on both of your designs and add a few thoughts not mentioned before (at least not here on this list): Jens: Your app icons look great, but I don't think we should change them in such a radical way with a minor release. If people don't recognize their applications and files, they might become upset... I find them interesting as well. On some colors the seagulls could have some more contrast... Representing the different file formats with other symbols might be a good idea (we should involve UX in that question), even if they are quite abstracted. I think the document icons should looks somehow like document, the shape you choose seem also too abstract for me. But for the present question there is one point to mention: ODF is not eye-catching at all - in fact, you have to search a bit to find the letters (this refers to both of your uploaded icons). Maybe this is the idea behind this, one day the users may associate that shape with ODF, but I have to admit that I'm a bit septic in this aspect ;-) For the moment, the goal with the new icons is to improve user knowledge about ODF - that's the reason why ODF is so prominent on the icons Stella designed. These icons might fit to a more general update to OpenOffice.org - when users know about ODF already (perhaps with OOo4?) [...] Even if I'm not able to design as high quality icons as you both, I uploaded what I think might be a basis of icons that could be used by other applications too: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/User:BeDipp#personal_sandbox but these still contain the seagulls ?! my understanding from what you've said is: ODF document icons should have no seagulls, the app icons should have them. Sorry, if I've not been clear enough: I still want application related symbols on the icons - they can be less prominent than the ODF eye-catcher, but removing them from Stellas iconset was one of the points I disagreed (besides the loss of file format related colors). I nearly don't mind the application on files that stay unchanged: Browser, viewer, player and so on. In these case the file format is the only important information. But if files are going to be modified, the application becomes important to the user: It makes really a difference if I work on an image with MS paint or GIMP. Same with Writer or gedit on a TXT file. And because of the different features of the ODF supporting applications I'd like to know if a double click opens my ODT file in Writer or any other app. Therefore I'd liek to keep the gull (or any other OOo representing symbol) on the document icons. And I can imagine other applications switching easier to a general ODF icon set, if they can add their app symbol to these icons. And: do we really need to go with the OASIS yellow or violet ? On that yellow I don't like either black or white letters, and the violet color doesn't seem to work with black Letters. Why do you need black or white on the colored area? Why don't stay with the combination of yellow and violet? These colors are used for representing OASIS ODF since I got notice of ODF. They are quite unique on the desktop, and in combination they are eye-catching. I don't see a reason for OASIS to skip these colors (perhaps in favor of a blue that is quite similar to the OASIS blue group), but I didn't ask them yet. Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] Next steps towards a new ArtBranding project = wiki page created
Hi all, information mail sent to - disc...@ooo - d...@marketing.ooo - d...@website.ooo - d...@documentation.ooo - d...@native-lang.ooo - d...@ui.ooo - disc...@ux.ooo http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=discussmsgNo=65230 Nikash V. SINGH schrieb: Hi All! Ivan Mi2initiati...@gmail.com wrote; I think it's quite comprehensive for an early draft - it provides a good outline. Please encourage people from all the projects to add their own points to the wiki page if they have something they'd like to add. I invited them to reply to the mail or add a comment to the talk page. We'll see how it works. Well done guys. Just added my name to the list, there wasn't anything I could add to, in terms of content =) Just one thing; maybe members could be made more aware that there is a list of names of interested participants on that page! Most people are busy leading up to Christmas and maybe not all have had a chance to peruse that page, but I bet there's a handful more people interested in being on that list Thanks for the hint! I added a phrase at the top of the wiki page linking to this list and I mentioned the list in the mail. For your information: I modified this list a bit, because not everybody uses the same user name for OOo and wiki. Please have a look, if I did anything wrong (Ivan?) Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[art] ODF icon design
Hi all, as you all know, OOo is trying to support the ODF file formats by developing ODF related desktop icons for document representation. The present approach contains: - add ODF on a rectangular area to a detailed (depending on the scale) graphical representation of the file type. - remove all application related information. - remove all color information except the intensive blue tone of the rectangle. The reasons for doing so have been told: - Primary colors are stronger than secondary, therefore blue has been used instead of the actual colors of the ODF community. - By reducing the other information (color and application information) ODF becomes more important. - They think that it would be reasonable not to tell anything about the application opening the ODF documents, because this would be irrelevant to the user. I can't follow these argumentation, therefore I'd like to show the relevant people that it is possible to - combine ODF and OOo information in one icon - keep color information in the icons - use the colors of the official ODF community logo: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/26771/ODF_220-03a.png (and perhaps the text and the form of the lower part) Jens already started some designs to show me that this is possible. Does anybody of you is interested to join this effort? Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] Next steps towards a new ArtBranding project = wiki page created
Hi Christoph, all, thanks for you feedback :-) Christoph Noack schrieb: Hi everyone! I've added some of my thoughts on the talk page. I didn't want to add/change too many things on the wiki page - first I would like to discuss some of the items (e.g. what we can learn from other projects). I wouldn't mind using the wiki page for collecting ideas and mentioning steps not already taken, so I'd include your thoughts in the main page Ivan already started to include some of the points you both mentioned (thanks, Ivan), I tried to add some more thoughts, but I'm not too happy with my wording. Please revise it! http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Design_Artwork_and_Branding_Project_Proposal In my eyes the talk page serves better for discussing opposite opinions - it might be used for discussions involving people from different projects and mailing lists. I'd like to post our idea on the relevant lists (d...@marketing, d...@website, disc...@ux, d...@native-lang, d...@documentation, d...@ui) probably on Sunday (being at work from early Saturday to Sunday morning). Do you think we should add anything more to the wiki page before? Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] Next steps towards a new ArtBranding project = wiki page created
Hi Ivan, all, Ivan M schrieb: Hi Bernhard, all, On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 11:40 PM, Bernhard Dippold bernh...@familie-dippold.at wrote: Hi all, I created a wiki page covering some important points to be considered on the way towards the new project: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Design_Artwork_and_Branding_Project_Proposal I'm sure I didn't think at all of them, so: Please comment, improve, discuss - whatever ;-) I have a few general comments/questions, so I'll list them here under the sections they correspond to on the wiki page. == First Steps == You have listed the Art project here; at the moment it is not clear what will happen to the art project itself - will it remain, or will it be integrated into this new project? This is probably still something to sort out, but it's something that deserves consideration. If the art project stays, would it still be a subset of marketing or would it too become a stand-alone project? I'm not quite sure, if it would be reasonable to have an extra Art Project as it's the other side of the same medal: Every theoretical branding decision has to be put in real graphics, while new artwork needs to be looked at with regards to it's fitting to the existent branding surroundings. And when the project is working on improving the visual identity by more general usable graphical elements, both parts have to work together with a maximum of integration. Therefore I'd prefer creating a single new project covering both aspects. You are right - the wiki page is unclear in this point. The User interface project is an interesting case, because this is where Stella's work comes under - it is at the top of the list on the UI project homepage [1]. [...] Stella told me some years ago, that she's using the UI website just because someone with write access to this projects could be reached physically during minutes... So it's just convenience, her work is not really part of this project. On the other hand I think they should be included because of the appearance of the branding elements inside the UI: Splash screen, start center, about box, application background and others can be named here. Even if their website and mailing lists have not been very active during the last years, they should be mentioned (and perhaps they become more active because of our work...) One other thing we might consider is looking at branding related projects in other open source projects [...] Other projects might provide additional insights into different approaches we might take. As far as I can see (having not been actively searching the different projects), activity is directly related to the grade of impact on the final product. Similar to the present official and additional galleries I'm thinking of a kind of playground or sandbox for new ideas not (yet) fitting to the branding rules. Any new graphical topic might be developed there, until the team decides about including it in the general visual design. This would allow to create artwork without restriction by the branding rules that will not weaken our visual impact in public. == After establishing the new project Next Activities == The wiki page says: Revise present artwork and design elements with regards to their usability for a general branding design. As I see it, this is a very complex and potentially problematic matter. Do we try to make existing artwork consistent using current artwork as a basis, or do we start again (e.g. begin with the logo and then evolve other designs from the tone set by the logo)? This has clear implications for the creation of a style guide. Both aspects have their advantages and disadvantages, therefore I put this part in the agenda for the new project. Creating a branding strategy from the scratch can lead to optimal results at the end, because it is not necessary to care for present suboptimal elements. On the other hand this would mean to lose everything what people already recognize as OOo - our branding elements are having their effect since a couple of years. Therefore I'd go a way between these extremes: Define the goals of OOo quite clearly (perhaps run a survey among the community on that topic) and have a look at any of the present graphical elements with regards to it's relation to this goals and it's usability for our general branding. Keeping in mind the recognition value of these elements (this might be part of such a survey too), we then have to decide, if they should be part of the new branding identity, if they have to be updated or recreated from the scratch. == Continuous work == I was interested in Christoph's idea of having a branding/identity person on relevant i-Teams. Must be added to the wiki page - no question. We could also try to have goals for each OOo release. And for other OOo related events. I like the modified website logo we had in October and November... I have been thinking about certain
Re: [art] RE: Logos
Hi Raz, Raz Cumbe schrieb: Hello Bernhard, Just one question: I know that the CMYK and PMS colors look different from RGB. In the style guide for OOo2 [1] (needs an update too ;-) ) we defined the CMYK values as C100, M60, Y0, K6, because Pantone C286 renders differently in every program. Did you have a look about these values? Yes I did. I downloaded the files that were present as a means to obtain the values for CMYK and PMS colors. There is one thing to note. I noticed in the vector files, and the solid black CMYK break down is a different value than the TIFF file; the TIFF file uses a 4 color black while the vector uses a 1 color K. I kept my values of the black on the TIFF file to match the break down of the other TIFF files i.e. I did not want to stray away from the values that are already being used ( I figured that is the safest bet). Let me know if this doesn't make sense. Yes - at least for the moment it's perfectly right. If we update the logos, we should work on an improved visual impression for all the different color models - and then we'll have to decide if it would be reasonable to use a 1 color black everywhere in CMYK. I'm sorry, that I didn't upload the files up to now, but I'm quite busy at the moment with other topics... Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] Get button for Templates?
Hi Alan, all, Alan C. Baird schrieb: Hi Thorsten and Bernhard- These buttons are great! Thanks to Stella! Users might be able to find them, if links to these pages were installed on the Extensions and Templates sites. This might be a good idea - I'll forward your mail to the dedicated mailing lists. From our (the Art project's) POV they should be integrated in the artwork galleries at http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Art/Gallery If nobody else has the time to integrate them, I'll do it during the next days. I especially like the smaller versions of the Extensions buttons. It would be nice to have smaller Templates buttons, too. Smaller web buttons are easier to place on a website - but the larger are more similar to the present website design. When we try to coordinate the branding and visual design throughout the project and the OOo product during the next months, we might be able to find a way to use the main branding elements even on small web buttons. Finally, it might be helpful to change these wordings, to sound less strange to American ears: Promo Banner – Drats = Promo Banner – Drafts That's just a typo ;-) Feel free and have a look = Feel free to have a look I think it has been named this way to give a different impression: Feel free - free from the proprietary bindings of MS, free as in free speech and have a look. So it's more than just feel free to have a look. Just new! = New! As the template site is working already for some months, I'd leave this at all... Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] Presentation at the OOoCon this morning = Next Steps
Hi Graham, Ivan, all Graham Lauder schrieb: On Thursday 12 November 2009 11:30:51 Bernhard Dippold wrote: Hi Bernhard, Hi Ivan, all, sorry for not replying earlier, but this week I'm more busy with my job than at other times... (even this reply will be short...) Like Ivan I'm sorry I haven't replied more fully. After my daughters wedding this weekend I'll be able make a little more sensible input. This discussion is too important to let lie. Please take all the time you need - we don't have a deadline :-) For me it's important that the task keeps on going. Small steps are sometimes better than larger ones... I'm just trying to put my ideas on a wiki page in order to make them editable for everybody interested in this topic. As the new project will relate to several existing projects and I don't want to have a discussion divided in different parts on several lists. Perhaps the wiki is a better place for inter-project discussion... I'll tell you when the page is ready for public discussion. Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[art] Presentation at the OOoCon this morning
Hi all, I just wanted to tell you a bit about my presentation and the feedback for the poster stand here at Orvieto. I printed the poster [1] on several A4 sheets, took them to the conference and wanted to present them together as A0 poster on the display stands, but the stands consist of metal grid, so I decided to post them one by one. A first glance of them can be seen at [2] and [3]. I added some sheet of paper where people could comment the posters, but this was not used very much. Someone wrote, that she liked the Quill futuristic best and Quill had a better font than the preevious one, she liked the Flying chair too, but thinks that this would not be possible in a business area because they tend to more serious ideas (unfortunately). Someone else voted for Quill as a very good font. In my presentation (will be uploaded soon) most of the comments mentioned the preference of present users especially in business area to stay with the known and modify only what is really necessary. One commenter told from his company where the user were upset by the visual change from OOo2 to OOo3 - they just wanted to update the numbering on the splash screen... I've been asked if we had defined the branding goals before we started to create the logos, and I replied that we did it the other way round: Starting with the ideas by the artists, then present them to the community to find out about the goals the community people prefer - and afterwards work in a group with branding/marketing experts on defining goals for the project the final artwork should follow. With regard to a new branding project I mentioned my interest in including people from the different projects - and this seems to be taken quite positively. (I thought - not too seriously - about a name for the new project - working name might be abcd.openoffice.org for art, branding and corporate design) The video documentation [4] will contain my session too at the end of the day. Best regards Bernhard [1]: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/File:Logo_presentation_concept.png [2]: http://imagebin.org/70706 [3]: http://imagebin.org/70707 [4]: http://media.lscube.org/oooconf - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] Presentation of OOo Logo Ideas at Orvieto
Hi John, all, John McCreesh schrieb: Bernard's session is now on the OOoCon schedule: http://tinyurl.com/y89hdaa Thanks Bernard and all the team for your work on this! Thanks, John for the session! This discussion might become the base of a new position of art and branding inside the community. Thanks to all of you who made this possible! I'm going to present not only my personal opinion, but all you want me to take to Orvieto. For that purpose I'm going to start a new thread. Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[art] What should be discussed at the OOoCon new logo session?
Hi all, I'd like to collect here the topics and thoughts you want me to take with me to Orvieto and discuss them with the community (at least with the people interested in my session on Friday morning 9:00 - 9:45h [1]). I think we should discuss: - the advantages and disadvantages of the present logo - the reasons why we started to collect ideas for a new logo - the necessity for a more general art and branding project (including the other relevant projects) - how we should start / find the people to work on the new project Any other ideas? Please specify your thoughts with regard to the points above... Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] What should be discussed at the OOoCon new logo session?
forgot the link to the session: [1]: http://conference.services.openoffice.org/index.php/ooocon/2009/paper/view/155 Bernhard Dippold schrieb: Hi all, I'd like to collect here the topics and thoughts you want me to take with me to Orvieto and discuss them with the community (at least with the people interested in my session on Friday morning 9:00 - 9:45h [1]). I think we should discuss: - the advantages and disadvantages of the present logo - the reasons why we started to collect ideas for a new logo - the necessity for a more general art and branding project (including the other relevant projects) - how we should start / find the people to work on the new project Any other ideas? Please specify your thoughts with regard to the points above... Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] Presentation of OOo Logo Ideas at Orvieto
Hi all, I just finished my first idea of the main poster for Orvieto: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/File:Logo_presentation_concept.png The png file is a small representation of the original ODG and PDF files I uploaded to my homepage. As the poster is planned to be in size A0 they are quite large: http://www.familie-dippold.at/OpenOffice.org/concept.odg (1.3MB) (when I try to open the file directly on the web, I'm told it would be corrupted, after downloading it works - hopefully for you too) http://www.familie-dippold.at/OpenOffice.org/concept.pdf (950kB) In the ODG file the second tab (controls) is hidden (context menu - modify layer)- if you show it, you'll see the contours of the A4 sheets I'm going to print out and attach to the display stand at Orvieto. I cut most of the logos to be able to integrate all proposals (Jens, I didn't integrate your font comparison - hope this is o.k. for you), some of them had to be reduced to one of the alternatives. On additional stands I want to present the full concepts - including the unmodified images and the corresponding texts. Do think this is ok? Should I present our work differently? Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] Icon on 100 million download
Hi Alexandro, Ivan * On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 8:54 PM, Ivan M wrote: Hi Alexandro, It looks OK to me - the image is based on Bernhard's proposal at [1], except I've kept the OOo logo the same size as previously - the arrow graphics and the text are the same. As I'm not able to locate the orginal file, please tell me the right size. On my 1280x1024 monitor, the arrow Actually it was my fault I did have an extra zoom level. looks fine - do you have a particular page or screen resolution you're referring to? The version 3.x is there to clarify that we're not talking about downloads of version 3(.0), but also 3.0.1, 3.1, etc. I know but we are not talking to engineers and people probably not care and most people will think x is some new version. As a marketing guy, we ought to know this. Version 3 is jsut too long - this would reduce the size of the text, so it is nearly unreadable. I didn't use V3 because this doesn't refer to versioning at all. Sorry - I'm not at home, so I can't update the logo until this evening. (forgot to upload the SVG source...) Best regards Bernhard [1] http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Art/Dedicated_Logos Regards, Ivan. On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: I see that the icon for 100 million download has been launched but is really bad quality. First I see the green arrow somewhat jagged and almost look like the image was resized on the HTML. Please make a 1:1 icon and make no artifical resizing. Also 3.x looks awfully geeky and completely diffcult to understan please use version 3 and not 3.x -- Alexandro Colorado OpenOffice.org Español IM: j...@jabber.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org -- Alexandro Colorado OpenOffice.org Español IM: j...@jabber.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[art] Presentation of OOo Logo Ideas at Orvieto
Hi all, we agreed on stopping the collection of the logo proposals to be presented at Orvieto on Saturday 24th. It seems that there are only a few people at Honolulu, Papeete and Pago Pago are allowed to upload any new proposals... Now we'll have to work on the presentation of the concepts at Orvieto. We'll have a stand (perhaps more than one) in a central place, so we should create one ore more poster out of the proposals. I asked at the conference list for the number and size of the display stands we can get. Do we want to show the proposals like they are now - as listing with different amount of text and different finalized designs? What do you think of an overview - the present logo along with all proposals - and the content of the wiki page on additional stands? Should we add a place for comments by the visitors? I'll have to print the posters and bring them to Orvieto by train, so it would be easier if they would not bee too large... Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] 100 million
Hi John, all, John McCreesh schrieb: After the cute 'birthday cake' logo, another celebration is happening next week ... we are expecting the OOo V3.0 download counter to pass the 100 million mark! It would be nice to have another special home page logo to mark this event... I tried a first draft of such a logo and uploaded it to the wiki. (Actually I did two versions, if you want to, look at the file's history). I created a new wiki page for such dedicated logos http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Art/Dedicated_Logos and linked it from the Additional Logo Gallery (updated too): http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Art/Gallery/Logos Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] Utopia (?) of a new Art Project ...
Hi Graham, Christoph, all, Graham Lauder schrieb: On Monday 19 October 2009 11:13:48 Christoph Noack wrote: Hi Chris and all, Whew, this is going to get long Hi Bernhard, Ivan, Nikash, .*, [...] Am Sonntag, den 18.10.2009, 22:02 +0200 schrieb Bernhard Dippold: [...] Ivan M schrieb: bernh...@familie-dippold.at wrote: [...] All the Art project managed to influence for OOo 3 was the splash screen, but the process there was not very collaborative (i.e., we only had one round and no time to comment on the winning design until afterwards). In my opinion this should be done differently in future: Even if I like community votes on important questions, the splash screen is one of the most important bases for branding. Public like/dislike voting can't take this point into account. Agreed, however we should be careful to make sure we leverage what could be the major strength of the community and that is numbers and teams. I don't want to exclude anybody - just add an additional step towards quality and usability. [...] Therefore I prefer a different approach: - Define a color scheme, perhaps some branding element to be included in every splash screen proposal. - Have a first round of voting by a dedicated jury taking into account all the implications of the splash screen proposals on visual identity. - Provide a set of three to five splash screens to be voted by the community. Yep, that might work well. Maybe - if there is enough time in advance - that the community can (additionally) vote on certain graphical/branding elements to be used. This may be the basis to provide consistency across the whole product (incl. website, documentation, people *g*). At the moment OOo4.0 is far away enough to add some votings, if they increase awareness and result in high quality branding elements... A better process for mine would be slightly different. First work on an overall style: Colour Palette, feel, target Demographic and so on this could be done by Artists contributing extreme work based on the above, there could even conceivably be more than one brand to suit different demographics, who knows. The overall style is the most important factor in the entire project. Therefore this must be the first step - after branding elements (like the logo proposals) giving an impression on the different styles. But I don't think that the color palette must be decided in the beginning. It's all about feeling IMHO: People should feel comfortable with any OOo style - whether it should just be updated a bit or newly defined from the basics. And they should be able to recognize the product and project by this artwork. Once the community has decided on that work on Elements: Bugs, Positioners, Fonts. Taking into consideration all the places it's going to be used and then That's what I rather would like to see as community vote: It much easier to vote on a more or less final design concept than on a color palette, font or other graphical basics. Put it to the Artists with concrete criteria and then sit back and watch the fun. [] Yep. Maybe one possible approach could even be to maximize the efficiency by close cooperation with Sun - even contributing officially to the core product. This might free resources on their side to cooperate with us (e.g. defining styleguides). Especially when I think about the changes which might happen with the ongoing effort Renaissance, I'm sure there will be a huge demand for artwork. Cooperation with the present art team at Sun is crucial for the success of the new project. What kind of cooperation will be possible I don't really know by now. [...] In the past the Art project has not been in a position to force any modification to the core product - but with a broader basis (including Marketing, UX, Website, UI experts) this will become different. Personally, I think that other terms than force are appropriate in this case. Agreed - I didn't mean this term in it's militant meaning. One of the problems of writing in a foreign language... ;-) From my point-of-view, it has been incredible difficult to manage community artwork so that it keeps / enhances visual consistency in OOo. And it still is. As far as I know, we lack best practices to judge whether such artwork is sufficient for inclusion. That comes down to a couple of things: a) A comprehensive style guide b) Recognise long term contributors above one off arrivals. This is because there is a greater connection with the community and they are already in touch with the Corporate Consciousness and have participated in the discussions that lead to a final product. Not necessarily, but in general you're right. Simple things like those not in touch almost invariably leave the .org off. The idea is to recognise the concept of Community and that way longterm participation in the art project will lead to consistency.[...]. Consistency in sense of branding recognition and visual identity
Re: [art] Utopia (?) of a new Art Project ...
Hi Ivan, all, I just want to comment some of your points, so I don't forget to do it later. As I don't want to cause anybody not to take part in this discussion (because he or she has the same - or the opposite - opinion), I try to keep my comments short... Ivan M schrieb: Hi Bernhard, all, I hope that everyone on the art list will add their views on this subject. The speedy response to the logo design proposal suggests that there is a widespread desire to have an impact on OOo's visual branding/artwork/design/identity, so I hope that this discussion will become just as vibrant. +1 On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Bernhard Dippold bernh...@familie-dippold.at wrote: [...] I've been off the project (the entire OOo community) for nearly two years - don't know if I had been able to realize at least parts of it... There was a concerted effort, but sadly there were few concrete outcomes. There were issues with submissions dedicated to new icons, branding bugs, OOo's logo, splash screen, the font ... etc [1]. I've took part in these works, but was off, when we had to contact the responsible persons for integrating that stuff. All the Art project managed to influence for OOo 3 was the splash screen, but the process there was not very collaborative (i.e., we only had one round and no time to comment on the winning design until afterwards). In my opinion this should be done differently in future: Even if I like community votes on important questions, the splash screen is one of the most important bases for branding. Public like/dislike voting can't take this point into account. Therefore I prefer a different approach: - Define a color scheme, perhaps some branding element to be included in every splash screen proposal. - Have a first round of voting by a dedicated jury taking into account all the implications of the splash screen proposals on visual identity. - Provide a set of three to five splash screens to be voted by the community. [...] it's up to us to prove otherwise - take the new OOo logo design proposals - that took off very quickly. It shows we can mobilize and be very responsive in a relatively short period of time. Here is one possible approach: the community could have the option of either: a) inheriting StarOffice artwork (currently the default case, and it could be the same in the future) or b) designing its own (this option has been missing in the past) This could be done on a case-by-case basis. This is not easy to achieve, because in future we want to be more aware of a consistent graphical language than now. With a case-by-case insertion of different artwork we'll have to keep an eye on the integration of the new artwork in the present branding and visual context. In other words, Sun would be free to continue as is with artwork related to StarOffice, but we, as a community (which would of course have people from Sun), should be able to decide (or have greater say in) what OOo will look like by being able to provide our own artwork, rather than automatically inheriting StarOffice artwork in the majority of cases. Stella's work has not been dedicated to StarOffice only, but is meant to be an integral part of OpenOffice.org. She is close to the majority of developers, so her work is easier to be integrated in the code than external artwork. In the past the Art project has not been in a position to force any modification to the core product - but with a broader basis (including Marketing, UX, Website, UI experts) this will become different. [...] there might well be some people who don't know about it at all (i.e., we don't instruct new members to keep an eye on the Visual Design pages). We do when we point to the visual resources at the wiki, but this is not as obvious as it might be. [...] if the Art project wants to take an active role in such broader issues, we have to expand our scope and the best way IMO is as a separate project.[...] +1 In the past intentions to start an independent Art project lacked in support by the community (and there have been just two or three people able to spend some time for it). If we include contact persons from other projects our broader target will become more important for the community with both more impact inside and outside the new project. [...] there is just a need to provide options (and with that, responsibility) to the community - to say, for example: this is the artwork that Sun has designed for StarOffice, either take it, or provide the design you agreed upon by such and such date so it can be shipped with OOo version X.Y.Z. I don't know if the program is able to switch quite easy between different themes - but for mimetype icons, toolbar icons and splash screens this might be possible IMHO. - As long as only one designer creates all the branding relevant artwork for OOo, it can be kept consistent without huge discussion and lots of necessary documentation. That has become somewhat
Re: [art] Open Logo Work.
Hi Dennis, Dennis Smolek schrieb: I was wondering if it would be ok for me to post posters etc to get students here at the university to try some work on the Ooo Logo. It's great to get students involved in OOo - thanks for your commitment! [...] I have been on this list for almost a year or so now, but haven't done much work because of school. If you find the time to join our activities now, you're heartily welcome :-) I see that people are working on a new logo and the designs are interesting, but I think seeing Graphic Design students work would really impress you. There is just one point to keep in mind: The present OOo logo is trademarked and proprietary licensed (therefore allowance every usage should be requested at lo...@marketing.openoffice.org) to protect our branding identity. As long as we're working on any improvement inside the project, we can be quite sure that this work will not be used instead of the official logo in public. With external public work this might be different. Therefore I recommend the students at your school to join us here when working on the logo. You might get a dedicated wiki area for your school to work on - but please keep in touch with us when working on central (meaning of branding relevant) artwork for OOo. I started reading the Wiki.. When is the logo due? Where can I find a design brief? The different logo proposals should be presented at the OpenOffice.org Conference in Orvieto from Nov. 3rd to Nov. 6th. Any real change in the logo will probably not be considered as reasonable before the release of OOo4.0. Design recommendations are mentioned at the top of the wiki page where we present our drafts: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Art/Visual_Concept_Proposals If there are open questions, just ask... Does this sound like a good idea? Of course :-) (while respecting the branding issue) Valuable concepts and ideas are always welcome. Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] Clemens Hamann, About me
Hi Clemens, all, welcome to our Project :-) Clemens Hamann schrieb: Hello, my Name is Clemens Hamann and I am from Lübeck, located in the north of germany near the beautiful cost of the Baltic Sea. I used to live at Schwarzenbek (nearly half the way between Hamburg and Lübeck) for 10 years... [...] I got the information about this link and the Visual Concept Proposals from my friend Jens Habermann. Thank you, Jens, for spreading the word and inviting Clemens to join our Project. He told me to introduce me here and send my own ideas about a new visual concept and share them with you and other subscribers. You already know how to do that? I think Jens told you ;-) Here I am. Further I look forward to watch other interesting tasks of the OOo Art Project. Feel free to join any of the present efforts to improve OpenOffice.org, our artwork, website and wiki. And if you are interested in any other artwork worth to work on, please don't hesitate to tell us about... Best regards Bernhard PS Please don't wonder about my english. It's absolutely understandable (at least for me ;-) ) I try to improve it with every usage. That's what I'm doing for more than four years in the international projects of OOo - dict.leo.org is my friend ;-) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] 9 years of OpenOffice.org
Hi Ivan, all, Ivan M schrieb: Hi Bernhard, all I made a few minor modifications (kept the logo at the current size, and added the age to the birthday text since not everyone might take the time to count the candles :) ) - I hope you don't mind Not at all :-) (I just re-used the data from the file I had) - it's online now! Thanks again! Bernhard PS: If anybody wants to have a look at it, make sure that you reload the pages completely (bypass your cache by pressing shift on reload)... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] Ideas for a new OOo logo to be presented at Orvieto?
Hi Martin, all, Martin Hollmichel schrieb: Hi, Bernhard Dippold wrote: [...] And there is no better opportunity than the OOoCon to convince stakeholders of the more conservative logo of the possibilities of an update in marketing, visual identity, user reception and community feeling. I could imagine that a major sponsor of OpenOffice.org will take the chance within the next months also to contribute to this topic. I'm not sure if this will be in time for the Conference, but I'm sure that a discussion during OOoCon will be useful and constructive.[...] I don't know if it would be reasonable in this case, if we asked for a slot in the official timetable even if the schedule seems to be finished already. I don't already know if others of this project will be present at Orvieto - I for myself will try to take part in any discussion on that topic (at the Conference place or in a tavern...) I see this at least as a two step process: 1. Collect input and ideas as a basis for developing some design objectives. 2. Collect design proposals based on these objectives. Having an iterative process for a new OOo logo in place would ensure that we will not exclude contributors which get out of the race at early stage. For the moment (just a few weeks to Orvieto) I'd like to keep the focus on the logo proposals - every artist has his/her own design objectives leading to these drafts. In Orvieto and during the next months we'll have to work on a basis for a general branding including the points you mentioned. This work will have to be done continuously - and I hope that contributors keep contact and stay with us even if their logo proposals will not become the final version. And if we keep on updating the logo with every major version (OOo4, OOo5 and so on), iterative work on the logo will be necessary. just my 2c, ... and mine... Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] Ideas for a new OOo logo
Hi all, I uploaded a design concept even if it is not at all finished: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Art/Visual_Concept_Proposals#Bernhard_Dippold Thoughts and ideas behind it are mentioned at the wiki page - we might copy them here when we start discussing the designs... Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] Ideas for a new OOo logo to be presented at Orvieto?
Hi Graham, * Graham Lauder schrieb: All, Couldn't help myself, I had to post this :D http://www.logodesignlove.com/best-logo-design-tutorial-ever LOL - it's BRILLIANT! Thanks Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] Ideas for a new OOo logo to be presented at Orvieto?
Hi all, I started to create a wiki page at http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Art/Visual_Concept_Proposals I included the time frame Graham proposed: End of logo upload on 24th of October. Is this OK for you? Please improve the page, comment and upload your drafts... Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] OOoCon09 impress templates.
Hi all, Bernhard Dippold schrieb: Hi John, all, John McCreesh schrieb: [...] Some of the OOoCon presenters have started to downloaded it. One of them raised a question: what about a license information inside the template. I think, we need this information at the end of the presentation file.[...] My part of the presentation template is licensed under LGPL. This is stated at the wiki page where the file is uploaded additionally to the marketing repository: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/File:Ooocon09_presentation_template.otp I updated the file: The first content slide mentions the license: - LGPL for everything except the logo - OOoCon logo: proprietary with allowance to use it for presentations at the OpenOffice.org Conference 2009 Every presenter knows about the information in the meta data, so the license will be accepted for the presentations (or modified for the content, if the authors wants to change it). I didn't upload it to the marketing projects pages (/ooocon2009/presentations/ooocon2009.otp). John, if you think this is ok, please update this file too. Best regards Bernhard I included this information in the template's metadata (file - properties - description) too, but this might be a problem: Every presentation built with this template will contain this licensing information if the presenter didn't not remove it. I don't know if it's fair to license a work without explicit agreement by the author. It might be better to remove this information to avoid unwanted licensing. I What do you think? Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] OOoCon09 impress templates.
Hi Flo, * Florian Effenberger schrieb: Hi Bernhard, [...] I propose that as long as the logo is not modified by any means (except minor changes like size), it can be used for the purpose of OOoCon presentations, just like we had it all the years before. This includes generating templates and presentations as well as showing and distributing them. [...] How does that sound to you? I extended the information in the template and mentioned the license in the meta data at a place where every author will have to read it. The new version is uploaded to the wiki: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/File:Ooocon09_presentation_template.otp Do you think this is appropriate? Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[art] Ideas for a new OOo logo to be presented at Orvieto?
Hi all, Graham Lauder raised this idea in the thread about the OOoCon templates. To raise awareness about this topic I paste the relevant part of his posting and John McCreesh's reply to this new thread: On Mon, October 5, 2009 20:50, Graham Lauder wrote: [snip] How about this for an Idea. We, the Art Project, produce a whole pile of alternative OOo Logos, then the speakers can choose the ones they individually like for their presentations. Who knows the people at Conf might see one really cool one and say: We should have that as our Logo. John McCreesh replied: I'd love to see a display at OOoCon with proposals for a new OOo logo... but I think we may have left it a little late for Orvieto? As far as OOoCon 2009 is concerned, the Conference team have already designed their logo (as is their 'right' as organisers), and Bernard has incorporated it into an excellent template. Encouraging people to use a single template helps the OOoCon branding. Conf is the place for breaking new ideas after all, let's extend that to the artwork. Agreed. It would be great to launch a LOOok for a LOOogo there! John -- John McCreesh - Marketing Project Lead - OpenOffice.org Come to OOoCon in November - http://www.ooocon.org Even if there is no guarantee to replace the present logo with one of the newly created logos, this would show that we are moving forward. And there is no better opportunity than the OOoCon to convince stakeholders of the more conservative logo of the possibilities of an update in marketing, visual identity, user reception and community feeling. At the moment my question is: Who is interested in such a work, even if we don't have more than 4 weeks time? Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] OOoCon09 impress templates.
Hi John, all, John McCreesh schrieb: On Fri, October 2, 2009 00:23, Bernhard Dippold wrote: [...]now I uploaded it as a new version of the file you uploaded to the marketing website: http://marketing.openoffice.org/ooocon2009/presentations/ooocon2009.otp I hope, this complies with your aims. It does - many thanks. Some of the OOoCon presenters have started to downloaded it. One of them raised a question: what about a license information inside the template. I think, we need this information at the end of the presentation file. Any thoughts? As I don't know about the license of the OOoCon09 logo (I assume proprietary like the OOo logo it contains), licensing is a bit unclear as every time the OOo logo is involved. Officially every presenter has to ask for approval at the logo list and if anybody wants to re-use their presentation, (s)he has to ask too. My part of the presentation template is licensed under LGPL. This is stated at the wiki page where the file is uploaded additionally to the marketing repository: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/File:Ooocon09_presentation_template.otp I included this information in the template's metadata (file - properties - description) too, but this might be a problem: Every presentation built with this template will contain this licensing information if the presenter didn't not remove it. I don't know if it's fair to license a work without explicit agreement by the author. It might be better to remove this information to avoid unwanted licensing. What do you think? Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] OOoCon09 impress templates.
Hi John, * John McCreesh schrieb: On Fri, September 25, 2009 23:58, Bernhard Dippold wrote: [...] Please comment: Could this be used as official template for the OpenOffice.org Conference 2009 at Orvieto? Yes it can and it will ;-) Little typo on slide 3 Second entry thrid level I'm just working on this and a few other improvements mentioned by a few testers at the DE community. The new version will be uploaded tonight I hope. Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] Re: Orginal file
Hi Mateusz, Nik, * thank you, Nik, for including the Art Project in this question. Nikash V. SINGH schrieb: Hi Mateusz, The PDF you mentioned contains proposals for the Logo of OpenOffice.org 3. *forgive my thinly veiled attempt to curb my frustration at this fact* But since OpenOffice.org decided to do nothing to address their aging logo going into version 3, none of these proposals was considered or accepted. I'm really sorry, that I wasn't able to raise the great work having been done on logo, icons and splash screens to a level where it could be considered as basis for an improved visual identity for OpenOffice.org. We do need a new Art / Visual Design project - in a position that can work not only on marketing material, but on core graphical elements too. It's probably not a good idea to use them in your artwork, being unofficial works, as they are. For official OOo business cards the graphical language of the actual product should be used. This enforces the position of OOo and it's perception in public. I've CC'ed in the Art mailing list who might be able to help you source official artwork. Please have a look at the official artwork gallery: http://marketing.openoffice.org/art/official_galleries.html and the additional gallery for other artwork: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Art/Gallery My sincere apologies. -Nik From: Mateusz Zasuwikmzasu...@gmail.com To: overk...@openoffice.org Sent: Sunday, 27 September, 2009 2:50:44 AM Subject: Orginal file Hello Could you share with me the orginal file this PDF? http://overkill.hyperphp.com/allprops.pdf I want to design visiting card for polish OO.o community. A card will be alike to card my friend from Mozilla. ;) http://diary.braniecki.net/2009/08/19/express-mozilla/ It would be great, if you could share your design not only with the polish community, but with the entire OOo project. Please upload it to our wiki once you've finished it. Our business cards follow the language of OOo2 (or even OOo1), therefore we really need high quality OOo3 related artwork. One remark about using the OOo logo: This logo is trademarked and not licensed under a free license. Usage requests can be sent to the mailing list lo...@marketing.openoffice.org I sent such a request to the list in order to get approval for your and other business cards: http://marketing.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=logosmsgNo=10587 (Only members of the Marketing Project are able to read the mails) When I get a reply I'll post it here on a...@marketing.ooo. Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] First drafts for the OOoCon09 impress templates
Hi Cor, * thanks for your comments :-) ... and I'd really like to read about the opinions of any other project members... Cor Nouws schrieb: Hi Bernard, Bernhard Dippold wrote (20-9-2009 22:07) I created a new version of the slide draft, like the minimal version, but with a small gradient for the curve and a broadened part with the town silhouette at the top. I uploaded it to http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/w/images/2/23/OOoCon_slide_new.png [...] I like this one even more. I was a bit careful with the full black of the first design round, since that often does not look so good when printed black-whit. Both the new slide and the alternative title are using raster graphics instead of vectors - the slide looks smoother than the old version at my 800x600 screen, but the alternative title has not been improved... [...] The new slides look very rough at my computer (Windows and Linux) Do they possibly suffer from a bug, somewhere in the dev-stack, that the original graphics were replaced by the thumbnails? At my Ubuntu version of OOo (3.0.1) the lines look good (especially on slide 3), but with OOoDev m58 they look rough in the working area/preview. In the slide show they look fine again. Apart from that, I prefer slide 1 and 4. Me too :-) If we don't get any other comments, I'll finish the presentation template by adding an Agenda page. Best regards Bernhard Best, Cor - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] OOoCon09 impress templates.
Done :-) Bernhard Dippold schrieb: [...] I'll finish the presentation template by adding an Agenda page. It couldn't be uploaded to the Wiki, so I uploaded it to my website: I uploaded the file to http://www.familie-dippold.at/OpenOffice.org/Presentation_template_for_OOoCon09.otp Please comment: Could this be used as official template for the OpenOffice.org Conference 2009 at Orvieto? Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] extension upload
Hi Seb, * Sebastien Lanteigne schrieb: [...] In the meantime I have managed to upload most of them. It took a while but i seems to work. If anyone can download them to confirm all the paths are good I'd be grateful. Comment on the icons are also welcomed. I can't comment much on the icon design - they are exactly what we need: high quality and well looking clipart. The ones I had a closer look at are large scale raster images, so they can be enlarged without too much quality loss. Once we'll have a high quality SVG support, we should switch to vector images, but for the moment (even with the new antialiasing) most of the vector images I've seen (or created) don't look very professional... Until then we'll have to work with the larger file sizes... http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/trick_n_magic I already commented on this one (no specific icon, question about license), it seems not to be modified in between. http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/medals I noticed that you didn't change the names given to the clipart when you dragdropped it to the gallery. So they still read dd2152 and so on. As you gave appropriate names to the trick_n_magic clipart, you know that - don't know if it looks better, if the medals are called gold with red ribbon , silver 2 or something like that. But one thing i mentioned: The thumbnail on the extension page doesn't contain the ribbons without medal even if they are part of the package. Perhaps it would be reasonable to add there that people may build their own medal from the different medals and ribbons. And perhaps you could add the link to the shapes clipart as well on the extension page as in the extension's description. If people would be interested in a green medal for example, they could use your other extension. If the clipart will become vector based one day, both of the galleries might become one - as they won't need so large files then. But you might consider to include both galleries in one extension (if you don't think a download/extension of 4 MB would be too large), so they could be downloaded and installed together. http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/shapes Most of what I said about the medals does ally here too. One additional point: The extension is called shinny shapes - and the gallery read the same. I'd change it to shiny as you already did at the extension website. This extension has got an icon at the extension manager. If you want to provide one for the medals too (you didn't by now), perhaps the dark red might be misinterpreted as bronze, what might lead to the loose of the additional colors info at first sight. http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/praise_words Here would change the file names (by the way: I don't know if these names will be readable for blind people, so they might understand what the images are about - I'll have to ask someone who knows about that...). Children at school will love them - for myself I like the amazing rainbow most... Your compasses are not accessibly by now - as they are already linked from the wiki, I just tried it... Best regards Bernhard PS: If we really get lots of clipart, I'd prefer sorting them by topic instead of by artist. In my eyes the artwork galleries should serve the user to get what he/she wants more than the artist to present his/her work. But that's only my personal opinion... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] extension upload
Hi Seb, Sebastien Lanteigne schrieb: Hi, I keep getting 'Connection Interrupted' when I try uploading my new extension release. Is anyone seeing similar probleme? I was able to upload a new version of Trevor Hitching's Alpha Blocks [1] without problems. Do you still have problems? Best regards Bernhard [1]: http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/AlphaBlocks - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] extension upload
Hi Seb, Sebastien Lanteigne schrieb: On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 8:33 AM, Bernhard Dippold wrote: [...] I was able to upload a new version of Trevor Hitching's Alpha Blocks [1] without problems. Do you still have problems? Yes I'm still having problems. In fact more. [...] I suspect it's a timeout issue but I have not way to know without seeing the logs. Perhaps it might be valuable to contact the extensions team via mailing list (d...@extensions.ooo) or IRC (#ooo-ext). Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] First drafts for the OOoCon09 impress templates
Hi again, I created a new version of the slide draft, like the minimal version, but with a small gradient for the curve and a broadened part with the town silhouette at the top. I uploaded it to http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/w/images/2/23/OOoCon_slide_new.png It is linked from the Impress template gallery page: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Art/Gallery/ImpressTemplates and part of the updated Impress file: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/File:OOoCon09_template.odp The Impress file contains a second Title slide using the original OOo blue tone for the gradient and for the OOoCon logo itself (the creator of the logo modified the OOo logo color - I don't know if he got the allowance to do so...) Both the new slide and the alternative title are using raster graphics instead of vectors - the slide looks smoother than the old version at my 800x600 screen, but the alternative title has not been improved... What do you think of the new slide? (As title I prefer the old one even if it uses the wrong colors) Don't hesitate to tell me any idea for improvement. Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[art] John's OOoCon09 presentation template
Hi all, it's probably because John didn't start a new thread when he told us about the problems uploading his template (I can't sort threads with my web mail client, so I didn't notice it, when I replied), that there has no comments to his work up to now. Therefore I copy my last reply here: Hi John, * ajthornton schrieb: Trying to upload my .odg art at http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Art/Gallery/ImpressTemplates but it won't let me. Mosttimes it just doesn't get to the link. One time it did and said that my file for uploading was corrupt or wrong extension. It worked with the file John sent me: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/w/images/d/df/Templateart_John.odp Best regards Bernhard I'll comment on it in my next mail. Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] John's OOoCon09 presentation template
Hi John, all, thanks for your contribution! Bernhard Dippold schrieb: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/w/images/d/df/Templateart_John.odp I don't know if your template is meant as title or background for the content of the presentations. If you want the content to be presented in front of your template, it might be less readable than on a white or less colorful background. And splitting the content in parts above and below the flower seems not so optimal... Especially when the presentations will be printed as greyscale, readability might be reduced too much. And if I'm allowed to comment the graphic too: It's colorful - a combination of sun and flower, that produces a positive feeling when looking at it. But the OOoCon logo is a less important part of the design, only to be recognized at second sight. Logos normally look better, if they are not included in other design elements - most logo licenses/trademarks require a certain amount of space around the logo. What you didn't know - because nobody told you: The OpenOffice.org Conference is the most important event where OOo contributors meet and present their actual work to each other. These presentations should look professional - and as I like to improve the public recognition of OpenOffice.org wherever possible, I used the blue color from the official OOo logo and the curve from the OOo3 splash screen as basis of my draft (you included the colored balls). Please don't understand this mail a criticism - I just want to help you to improve your work. If you would rather like to help me improve my draft (I just started it when I tried to adapt the OOoCon 2007 template to 2009 - sorry for not commenting on this list), don't hesitate to reply to my other mail. Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] First drafts for the OOoCon09 impress templates
Hi Cor, all, Cor Nouws schrieb: Hi Bernard, Bernhard Dippold wrote (17-09-09 23:50) I uploaded links to two drafts (John's and a second one I did) for the OOoCon presentations to the gallery page: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Art/Gallery/ImpressTemplates At the screenshot pages I put the links to the impress files (as I forgot to save them as templates, they are still normal presentations). All comments are welcome :-) Thanks a lot. Look very good to me. When we look to the demand black-white printing, I would choose for the minimalistic line-version. IMHO it depends on the amount of text to be added to the template. I did the minimalistic version, because I thought, the graphical based version looked too crowded with more text than just a few lines. I did a black-white screenshot of the gradient slide: Except of the town part of the OOoCon logo it works quite good... (By the way: The gradient in the header is converted to vertical instead of horizontal whenever I reopen the file...) The bullets of that version do not show correctly however, on my (older) linux os. I think you refer to the bullets of the listed items. Perhaps they don't render correctly with older OOo versions? I don't know if there has been any modification to the standard bullets in a recent OOo version. If so, reworking the template with an older OOo might solve the problem. (I use an older laptop too :-) ) The bullets on the graphical based slide are OK. Done with OOo-Dev 3.2 (m56). Also the curvers do not show smoothly. While Anti-aliasing is activated. But again: an older linux OS on an older (5+yrs) laptop. They are vector based metafiles - perhaps they should be modified to raster images (even if the file would become larger...) Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] Clipart
Hi Seb, all, Sebastien Lanteigne schrieb: Hi everyone, Since the issue of Clipart is still very current Bernard contacted me last week about a message I sent in 2007 regarding a number of Clipart I have made. Back then I was looking or instructions on how to package them as extensions. Thanks for your work - the one you did in the past and the packaging done now. Following that message I told Bernard i would revisit, retouch and package those cliparts as extension. I have chosen to make them into small individual extension containing only a gallery rather then creating a larger download file. I totally agree. Small files are easier to be downloaded for the users. I would appreciate if a few people can test the first one before I package the other. http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/trick_n_magic It is really good - and works. The only idea to optimize it: What do you think of including an icon in the package (replace my icon.png by your own one), that shows up in the extension manager? [...] And thank you for integrating the thumbnails in the Clipart gallery! http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Art/Gallery/Cliparts Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] Clipart
... just one additional comment: The license agreement reads GPL, on the wiki LGPL is mentioned. The extensions website seems not to be reachable from my computer at the moment. But as I have lots of problems with my Internet connection today, the reason might be at this end of the line... Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] extension upload
Hi Seb, Sebastien Lanteigne schrieb: Hi, I keep getting 'Connection Interrupted' when I try uploading my new extension release. Is anyone seeing similar probleme? I know that my Internet connection is not really good: Several pages load very slowly, sometimes never... Even if I managed to download your magic extension tonight, I get Connection refused at the moment. Perhaps there is some work in progress that has to be done without public access? Sorry, I can't help you. Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] Can't upload my art for Orvieto template
Hi John, * ajthornton schrieb: Trying to upload my .odg art at http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Art/Gallery/ImpressTemplates but it won't let me. Mosttimes it just doesn't get to the link. One time it did and said that my file for uploading was corrupt or wrong extension. It worked with the file John sent me: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/w/images/d/df/Templateart_John.odp Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[art] First drafts for the OOoCon09 impress templates
Hi all, I uploaded links to two drafts (John's and a second one I did) for the OOoCon presentations to the gallery page: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Art/Gallery/ImpressTemplates At the screenshot pages I put the links to the impress files (as I forgot to save them as templates, they are still normal presentations). All comments are welcome :-) Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] Can't upload my art for Orvieto Template
Hi John, you wrote: Trying to upload my .odg art at http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Art/Gallery/ImpressTemplates but it won't let me. Mosttimes it just doesn't get to the link. One time it did and said that my file for uploading was corrupt or wrong extension. Please send the file as attachment to my personal mail address, I'll try to upload it. I got the corrupt/wrong extension message for an extension I just renamed from .zip. But in this case it seems to be different. If I can't upload it too, I'll report the problem to the wiki maintainers at d...@website.ooo. Best regards Bernhard PS: I'll not be able to upload the file until tomorrow morning (I'm at work now). - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] Introduction
Hi Leonard, * welcome to our project! Leonard Vaivada schrieb: [...] Being an ex house painter I love creating color tables I would like to get into themes, backgrounds, icons etc [...] There are several topics you can work on - either you look around and find something you want to optimize or join one of our present tasks: - creation of an Impress template for presentation at the OpenOffice.org Conference at Orvieto - creation of clipart for OpenOffice.org (at first as extensions to be integrated by the user, long time goal: integration of the best clipart in the main program) - update of the existing artwork / creation of new artwork following the themes of OpenOffice.org 3 There are other IMHO important task not really started (or just sleeping after previous work): - update the present splash screen (using the colors of OOo2 for the points at the right) - definition of an official style for OOo3 that should be used for official representation of the project or the product OpenOffice.org (visual design/identity). - raising the presence of the Art Project among the other OOo projects and publicly. If you want to start any activity among these tasks (or any other), don't hesitate to do so - and please tell us here on the list.. Best regards and welcome again Bernhard PS:I updated the Open Task page at the wiki with these points - feel free to add others. http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Art/Open_Tasks - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] Request for templates for OOoCon presentations
Hi John,* ajthornton schrieb: I could well have a go at this. I have just used Impress to make slides for my talk at Software Freedom Day. I put a lot of effort into the fonts, colours etc and people liked my slides. Thanks for your offer! With regards to fonts: Please use fonts, that are more or less ubiquitous among OOo users - If your template renders differently on different computers, this might reduce the quality... So, if I could get the OOoCon logo from somewhere, I would like to put something together. The guidelines below look reasonable enough. John McCreesh posted the link twice - did you get it? It is a template? In other words people are going to fill it up with their own words, pics etc so I shouldn't crowd the template too much. That's right. If you had a look at the template for the OOoCon2007 John provided the link to, you've seen that most of the content is based in the Master Pages. I assume that I should I start with a blank impress slide and make my template on it? I'd propose to use the 2007 template as basis and replace the content by the 2009 graphics. I shouldn't worry about having those markers where pople can import pics etc onto their impress slide? If you use the existing template, these markers (included in the Master Pages) will be present in your template too. Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] [#IMM-735749]: XtremeGameServers.org for all your service needs!
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[art] How to define the official OOo clipart style - please comment all!
Hi all, as you know we want to create new high quality clipart for OpenOffice.org. It would be necessary to define a professional official style for such clipart. On our discussion at the ux project (http://ux.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=discussmsgNo=3767) Alexandro proposed to fund (partially) a firm to drive a standard. I have seen postings by several professional artists here on the list, telling that they would like to contribute. Even if I don't know if these offers are still active, I'd prefer a definition of the official set here in the Art Project. This would not only raise the importance of this project, but might lead to more active participation by professional or semi-professionals, as their work might become visible as integrated part of the leading open source office suite. Which way would you prefer? Do you think we as project are capable to create and define a really professional clipart style? If this might help, I would write a mail to all the professionals, students and so on, that joined our project in the past months, telling that they want to contribute. My main goal is the quality of our program, my second the activity of our project. If money would help, we could ask the Marketing Project for financial assistance - there is a budget for activities I think we could get some support. I ask every project member to comment - such a decision should not be done only by a few posters. Thanks in advance! Best Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] want to contribute
Hi John, John wrote: Hello! I assume that this is the mailing list! Yes it is :-) I am a student of graphics in a Diploma of graphics design. I have a dual-booted Windows/Linux computer. I have Adobe software and OpenSource software for graphics. Having registered at the art site and looked at some art contributions, what do I do next? You already did exactly the right thing: Having a look around and joining the mailing list :-) If you didn't find our wiki already, I'd like to show you the content at http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Art. Even if the wiki pages are not finished yet, there you might get an insight of what we are working on (or should be working on). Additionally you might have a look at this mailing list's archive (http://marketing.openoffice.org/servlets/SummarizeList?listName=art). If you read about the last three or four topics, you are quite up-to-date. In case of any questions / suggestions please don't hesitate to post here again. After that you will have an impression about what artwork is needed: In the moment we want to provide clipart for OpenOffice.org (OOo in short) that might improve the clipart gallery inside the program, but this task is just at the first steps. The artwork galleries (aditional and official) needs new or updated artwork, the wiki pages could become even more user-friendly and instructive for people requesting or providing artwork ... If you find any point you are interested in, just tell us and start working on it (either on your own or together with us). Thank you for joining our group - I hope you will feel like me: it's fun and helps improving OpenOffice.org! Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] want to contribute
Hi John, * Hi Bernhard Such a quick reply for my weird timezone [Australia]! Fortunately I had the time to go online at work :-) I have read the 2005 style guide for the projects. The style guide has been created for OOo2. With OOo3 there are some differencies (epecially in colors and graphical elements). Nobody took the time to update it, but the OOo3 artwork we created collaboratively during the last months used some of the elements from the new splash screen. Then I looked at the art work already submitted such as business cards and splash screens. There is (as far as I know) just one business card (by Jens Habermann) inside the additional artwork gallery showing OOo3 elements, the older ones at the former official gallery show elements from OOo2 or OOo1! A new splash screen will be necessary fo OOo4.0 - but this is still way ahead... Then I went to the official site for Ooo artwork and downloaded some logos onto my Adobe Illustrator. It all looks good; the artwork is of a high standard. I'm not sure what I'll tackle yet. Business cards could make sense since I have already covered them in my graphics course. I usually use adobe Indesign or illustrator. I have photoshop but I don't use it much. But I like opensource tools as well like GIMP! Did you try Inkscape once? It's opensouce like GIMP, but based on vector graphics. It has some minor problems, but works quite well IMHO. Thanks for the help and I'll read through things and find a project to work on. You're welcome! Just come back to the list when you have any question... Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] New task for the Art Project? Create high quality clipart galleries!
Hi Nik, Martin, all, Nikash V. SINGH schrieb: All quite on the Art front, =) quite or quiet ? ;-) Hi Bernhard, all, Bernhard Dippoldbernh...@familie-dippold.at wrote; What do you think about creating new clipart galleries? I think this is a great idea and I do believe it will have all the positive results you mention below. While I'm slightly busy these days (like everyone else) I'd love to chip in artwork to go towards OOo clipart. I think this gives us the opportunity to make our clipart a little more consistent than Microsoft Office's too. I'm on board. Thank you (both of you) for your joining this task - even if it will take some time, it is worthwhile the time and effort. Do you think there will be a list of common clipart desirables, like person using computer, computer connected to globe, person making presentation? I don't think that such a list does already exist, but it should really be written down. Should we ask the ux/renaissance team for support about that list? A list like this would be handy so Art members can pick what they can do. Also, since quite a few works will have people in them, maybe we could come up with a standard look and feel for these people? A standard/official look and feel will be important for the clipart that will be integrated in the program itself. But why not provide alternative themes the user can download from our website/wiki? This would allow every artist to add his/her clipart to the repository as unofficial artwork. After a selection by the Art Project new clipart galleries will be presented in the official galleries and at a second step they might be integrated in the main program. Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[art] New task for the Art Project? Create high quality clipart galleries!
Hi all, the website project discusses a way to present OpenOffice.org extensions more prominently on the website. One of the four main topics among these extensions are cliparts that can be integrated in the program's gallery that is quite poor in comparison to the cliparts in MS Office. What do you think about creating new clipart galleries? They can presented for download on the wiki, and if we consider them to be good enough to become official, they should be moved to an official artwork gallery and might be integrated in the core program in a second step. IMHO this might be an excellent opportunity for us to take a quite important task for the program as well as to improve the Art Project's position in the OOo community. Do you think we could manage such a task? It would consist of several steps: - creation of the artwork - integrating it in a new clipart gallery in OOo - creating an extension for easy integration by the user Clipart under Public Domain is available at the OpenClipart.org project at http://www.openclipart.org. Step two is a bit tricky as OOo doesn't import all complex vector files without any problem, but I managed it for quite a number of files from the clipart contest in 2006, so I'm confident that I remember how it worked. For step three I'm going to provide a short how-to in the wiki. There are a few extensions available already at the extension website and at the PrOOo-Box the de-project provides: http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/GalleryDangerSigns http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/freie-schaltzeichen http://live.prooo-box.org/de/html/gallery.html (sorry, German text) http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/oxygenoffice-gallery (non-free) Does anybody know about other clipart extensions? What are your thoughts in general? Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] New task for the Art Project? Create high quality clipart galleries!
I wrote: There are a few extensions available already at the extension website and at the PrOOo-Box the de-project provides: http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/GalleryDangerSigns http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/freie-schaltzeichen http://live.prooo-box.org/de/html/gallery.html (sorry, German text) http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/oxygenoffice-gallery (non-free) Does anybody know about other clipart extensions? Not extensions, but all the entries of the clipart contest in 2006: http://documentation.openoffice.org/Samples_Templates/User/gallery/index.html Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[art] Official Artwork page updated
Hi all, as we already link to http://marketing.openoffice.org/art/official_galleries.html from the Additional Artwork pages, I updated the links on this page. They have been linking to pages not yet created, so I changed the links to the old gallery pages if they existed beforehand. Other pages didn't exist, so the links had to be directed to a intermediate page pointing to the Additional Gallery page at the wiki. Two or three other links point directly to wiki pages. At least I hope so - perhaps someone has the time to test the links... Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] Art Project Wiki - purpose of the subgalleries?
Hi again, I sent a mail concerning the subgalleries in the wiki three weeks ago to this list. Bernhard Dippold wrote: Hi all! Austin Martin's description of the subgalleries shows a good way to present artwork. A gallery based on the artist's names gives the audience the chance to identify artwork with the artist who created it. I don't know if this is the best approach, therefore I ask you about your opinion. Without any reply I just started my idea at the poster gallery: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Art/Gallery/PostersBannersFlyers For me the artwork gallery is meant to help people to find the artwork they need for their purposes. Therefore I'd prefer a gallery that lists the artwork in categories. [...] With such a gallery (or a set of galleries, if they contain different topics) the visitor of that page can find what she/he wants quite easily. Shall I (and anybody else - feel free to contribute) continue with this work? Any comments? Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[art] New wiki page for screenshots
Hi all, sorry for cross-posting, but this might be relevant for several projects. (Please forward this mail to other projects, where I'm not subscribed like documentation, native lang ...) As I didn't find a repository for OOo3 screenshots, I created a wiki page for that purpose: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Screenshots Feel free to upload your screenshots to the wiki [1] and include them in the galleries. The page might be improved (feel free to do so - it's a wiki), and when the collection becomes larger, new sub galleries could be created... Best regards Bernhard [1]: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Special:Upload - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] Draft for new Additional Gallery Wiki page
Hi Austin, Austin Martin wrote: Hey, Bernhard, all It looks a lot better, the only suggestion now is if you can make the table be in the center and about 100% of the width (maybe 90%).. Thanks for your positive reply - It's your draft that is replaced... I left the external links below the table, but removed the proposals. As not all of the subgalleries are active yet, it might be possible, that some of the pages previously presented at the Gallery page (especially on the Proposals side) are not linked correctly at the moment. But I moved my draft to the Gallery page: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Art/Gallery So everybody can optimize it on his own... ... because it's a wiki. :-) Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [art] Draft for new Additional Gallery Wiki page
Hi Ivan, thank you for your comments! You're right - the images don't show the differences between the subgalleries very clearly. I started to modify the first line - didn't have the time to do more ATM ... http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/User:BeDipp#personal_sandbox Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[art] Draft for new Additional Gallery Wiki page
Hi all, I worked on my draft for a new Additional Gallery page: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/User:BeDipp#personal_sandbox Even if there lack a few images and linked pages, I'm quite sure, you will be able to understand my intention. Please comment - would this (or something similar) be more user friendly than the present page (http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Art/Gallery)? The new draft will have to integrate some links etc., but I wanted to show you what I did. Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: art-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: art-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
