Re: historical question

2024-02-01 Thread Faré
On Thu, Feb 1, 2024 at 12:35 PM Robert Goldman  wrote:
> I'm open to an ASDF history section being added to the manual, or a separate 
> ASDF history web page being added that would be linked from index.html.
>
> But I'm not open to doing this myself! I would accept a PR.
>
> Actually, isn't this information available in some of the ILC papers? If so, 
> isn't that sufficient?

A historical writeup is right up my alley. I think it can bind
together the information that was in the ILC papers.

Is a doc/history.md page alright, similar to the best_practices.md document?

Should I remove the information from the index.html page as I put it
in history.md, leaving a link to the new document instead? I'm
thinking particularly of the pseudo-changelog at the bottom of the
page, but also part of the documentation section, and the discussion
of obsolete alternatives (a lot of it currently commented out, but I
intend to move it all to the new document and uncomment the stuff
there, maybe in a different subsection).

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Re: historical question

2024-02-01 Thread Robert Goldman

On 1 Feb 2024, at 11:13, Faré wrote:


Looking at said doc/index.html, I see that a lot of references to
historical ASDF alternatives were commented out—why not keep them, 
if

only in a separate paragraph or section? Or move them somewhere deep
in the manual? I believe they have historical value, too.


I'm open to an ASDF history section being added to the manual, or a 
separate ASDF history web page being added that would be linked from 
index.html.


**But** I'm not open to doing this myself!  I would accept a PR.

Actually, isn't this information available in some of the ILC papers?  
If so, isn't that sufficient?

Re: historical question

2024-02-01 Thread Faré
I think we should add this link, as well as a link to the original
README in git (which I suppose subsumes the original defsystem
proposal link in the archived email) somewhere in doc/index.html.

Looking at said doc/index.html, I see that a lot of references to
historical ASDF alternatives were commented out—why not keep them, if
only in a separate paragraph or section? Or move them somewhere deep
in the manual? I believe they have historical value, too.

—♯ƒ • François-René ÐVB Rideau •Reflection• http://fare.tunes.org
“Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it
from religious conviction.”  ― Blaise Pascal (1623–1662)
On Thu, Feb 1, 2024 at 9:34 AM cage  wrote:
>
> On Thu, Feb 01, 2024 at 10:38:29AM +0100, Rudolf Schlatte wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> [...]
>
> > If you need a definitive answer, you could ask Dan Barlow, he's on the
> > fediverse at @d...@brvt.telent.net
>
> The funny thing  is that I realized  that the person I  talked  with on
> the fediverse in the last days, is Him! 
>
> He  provided a  link  that I  pasted  below because  I  think is  very
> interesting for an historical perspective of ASDF development.
>
> https://sourceforge.net/p/cclan/mailman/message/2011712/
>
> Bye!
> C.


Re: historical question

2024-02-01 Thread cage
On Thu, Feb 01, 2024 at 10:38:29AM +0100, Rudolf Schlatte wrote:

Hi!

[...]

> If you need a definitive answer, you could ask Dan Barlow, he's on the
> fediverse at @d...@brvt.telent.net

The funny thing  is that I realized  that the person I  talked  with on
the fediverse in the last days, is Him! 

He  provided a  link  that I  pasted  below because  I  think is  very
interesting for an historical perspective of ASDF development.

https://sourceforge.net/p/cclan/mailman/message/2011712/

Bye!
C.


Re: historical question

2024-02-01 Thread Rudolf Schlatte
Rudolf Schlatte  writes:

> cage  writes:
>
>> Hi!
>>
>> Some  person  (including  me)  was wondering  when  the  ASDF  project
>> started; on  the fediverse someone  guessed that the  25th anniversary
>> could be near. Is that true?
>
> If you need a definitive answer, you could ask Dan Barlow, he's on the
> fediverse at @d...@brvt.telent.net

... he isn't on that address, but in my defense it was rewritten by
gmane.  Try @ dan @ brvt dot telent dot net



Re: historical question

2024-02-01 Thread Rudolf Schlatte
cage  writes:

> Hi!
>
> Some  person  (including  me)  was wondering  when  the  ASDF  project
> started; on  the fediverse someone  guessed that the  25th anniversary
> could be near. Is that true?

If you need a definitive answer, you could ask Dan Barlow, he's on the
fediverse at @d...@brvt.telent.net