Re: historical question

2024-02-01 Thread Rudolf Schlatte
Rudolf Schlatte  writes:

> cage  writes:
>
>> Hi!
>>
>> Some  person  (including  me)  was wondering  when  the  ASDF  project
>> started; on  the fediverse someone  guessed that the  25th anniversary
>> could be near. Is that true?
>
> If you need a definitive answer, you could ask Dan Barlow, he's on the
> fediverse at @d...@brvt.telent.net

... he isn't on that address, but in my defense it was rewritten by
gmane.  Try @ dan @ brvt dot telent dot net



Re: historical question

2024-02-01 Thread Rudolf Schlatte
cage  writes:

> Hi!
>
> Some  person  (including  me)  was wondering  when  the  ASDF  project
> started; on  the fediverse someone  guessed that the  25th anniversary
> could be near. Is that true?

If you need a definitive answer, you could ask Dan Barlow, he's on the
fediverse at @d...@brvt.telent.net



Re: Rejiggering the branches

2021-07-12 Thread Rudolf Schlatte
"Robert Goldman" 
writes:

> If stable seems bad, is there another name we could use to avoid renaming? 
> Like maint for "maintenance"?
>
> I don't love maint, because it's too close to main, and it seems like main 
> has an edge in familiarity if not in meaningfulness.
>
> legacy?
>
> Unless we can come up with something better than stable, it seems like the 
> least-worst alternative. But there's all week to come up with something 
> better!
>

In the first email you said that the purpose of that branch was to
permit continuation of the 3.3 release series, so maybe call the branch
"v3.3"?  That way, there can be multiple such branches without resorting
to "stable", "oldstable" etc. names.

Rudi




Re: [asdf-devel] [armedbear-devel] Upgrade issues

2013-01-21 Thread Rudolf Schlatte

On Jan 21, 2013, at 20:08, Faré fah...@gmail.com wrote:

 ABCL is one of the three implementations, together with CLISP and CMUCL,
 where I ultimately punted on ASDF hot-upgrade, by just trying to
 rename away the ASDF package if it's too old.
 
 I don't know if you're interested in making the kind of package
 surgery I was indulging in work,
 but it involves rehoming symbols from ASDF to subpackages such as
 ASDF/COMPONENT,
 including for class slot names.

Hi Fare, I appreciate your work on asdf, and bug reports are always good.  If 
you can describe your problems as a sequence of forms that we can type in to 
observe breakage, things shouldn't be too hard to fix.  It would be cool to 
have an abcl that can support all of asdf.

Rudi


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Re: [asdf-devel] suggestion for aserve.asd

2012-12-20 Thread Rudolf Schlatte

On Dec 20, 2012, at 03:21, Robert Goldman rpgold...@sift.info wrote:

 On 12/19/12 Dec 19 -8:04 PM, Faré wrote:
 On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Robert Goldman rpgold...@sift.info wrote:
 You don't need acl-file any more.
 
 You can now use cl-source-file.cl, which is exported from ASDF.
 
 You can make legacy-acl-source-file inherit from cl-source-file.cl and
 cut the ACL-FILE class entirely.  That will take care of using the .cl
 extension instead of .lisp.
 
 Actually, an acl-file is still required, because there's a method on perform.
 On the other hand, that method needs to be changed
 to play well with asdf-output-translations,
 and could simply be an :around method to
(handler-bind (((or style-warning warning) #'muffle-warning))
 (call-next-method))
 or something (untested).
 
 Actually, portable aserve has two layers.  It has an acl-file, and it
 has legacy-acl-source-file.  I believe that the former is unnecessary,
 but the warning muffler on legacy-acl-source-file is still needed.
 
 On general principles, I don't like the idea that there are warnings
 that need muffling: I think any mature system should build without
 warnings.  If you muffle some warnings that need muffling, sooner or
 later you always end up muffling a NEW warning that you wish you hadn't
 muffled

Agreed on both counts, but I prefer minimally invasive surgery, especially in 
an old and creaky system like paserve.  Anyway, the suggested changes are 
committed now, which will hopefully make Fare's job a bit easier.

Rudi


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