[Assam] Jokaisuk
Hello Everybody Here's something on "Jokaisuk", my cousin from Siwasagar has to say. Jokaisuk is between Gaurisagar Phulpanisiga on the road to Siwasagar from Jorhat. The people from Siwasagar / Gargaon considered the people from Jokaisuk to be Gaolia's. In fact, there is a School on the highway - "Jokaisuk High School". Further info can be directly obtained from my cousin, Sri Pabitra Pratim Sarmah, posted at New Delhi working for OIL and originally from Siwasagar. His ID is in the CC. Muktikam Phukan Check out Yahoo! India Rakhi Special for Rakhi shopping, contests and lots more. http://in.promos.yahoo.com/rakhi/index.html ___ Assam mailing list Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam Mailing list FAQ: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html To unsubscribe or change options: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam
Re: [Assam] Re: ref: my introduction
Thats really interesting! But one thing confused me. "The word pul is not there in Hindi but in Bengali." All my Hindi speaking friends and even people giving road directions when uenquire about locationsin North India call the bridge "PUL". So, I've consulted the hindi dictionary. And infact the word "PUL" for bridge is not there. The correct word is "Setu". Maybe they use the arabic (urdu) word "pul"colloquially. Interesting. Muktikam Phukan Barua25 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jokai is also called jakoi, is not it? I think it is good Assamese word. I wonder if the word is in other Indian languages. That brings usto the question of the other word; SUK. Jokai-suk, Doha-Bora Suk, Hazarika Suk etc. The word suk, I could not find in Hindi or Bengali but only in Assamese. The Arabic has a similar word suk meaning bazar. I am not sure if the Assamese suk came from the Arabic direct. InJorhat we have a market called Sok Bazar.This Sok I think is same as Arabic Suk meaning Bazar. Although in Assamese the meaning of the word suk written as 'corner', I find it hard to believe that Jokai Suk, Doha Bora Suk really mean 'corner'. At one time these words might have meant 'bazar' or 'hat'. It is possible that the Arabic Suk has connection to the Assamese suk. Another such interesting Assamese word is the word pul (bridge). (Xi pulot bohi ase). Th! e word pul is not there in Hindi but in Bengali. Also it is in Persian. In Assamese there many such words of Arabic origin which are not found in other Indian languages. Incidently all the following Assamese words are of Arabic origin, These are probably in many other Indian languages: nogod, joma, khoros, khobor, kagoj, kolom, kitab, mosgul, hajir, ohmok, hakim, rokom, dewai, masul, khotom, julum, khali, khalas, malik, sotur, tarikh, son (year), nojor, harami etc Interesting!! Rajen Barua. . - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 11:45 PM Subject: RE: [Assam] Re: ref: my introduction I want to add something in this regard ... 'Jokai' is afamiliar namein Assam.If you go through theassamese newspapers regularly youwill come acrossmany places called 'Jokai' situated indifferent parts of Assam. Ipersonally know a placecalled 'Jokai' ( including a village and a big reserve forest called 'Jokai reserve forest' ), which is around 10Km away from Dibrugarh towards Burhidihing river. Every one must be knowing the company called 'Jokai India Limited'. C.R.Baruah -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Chan MahantaSent: 19 August 2005 08:05To: utpal borpujari; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Assam] Re: ref: my introduction Welcome Utpal. Our paths crossed before. I am sure you remember. Congrats. again on your fine efforts. Thanks for correcting me. I had a vague idea that there indeed is a place called Jokaisuk, but was never clear on where it stood. Turns out it is less than ten miles from my birth-'muluk' :-). But like Ram suggests, it can become a generic but quintessentially kharkhowa, obscure and humble locale, that many of us can claim our roots to. In that it is a band of honor that we proudly wear. Best, c-da At 5:36 PM +0100 8/18/05, utpal borpujari wrote: Hi all. Just a few things: 1. "Actually Jokaisuk is a mythical 'muluk', from which both Tilok Daktor and myself, as well as a host of other kharkhowas can and do hail." - Chandan-da, Jokaisuk, as far as I know (correct me if I am wrong) is not a 'mythical muluk'. In fact, quite contrary to the image the name gives, it is located right on the national highway between Amguri and Sivasagar, before one reaches Gaurisagar. 2. "I thinik our journaluist new comer friend is 'bhoyote touba touba khaise'.- RAJEN" Bhoi khowa nai. I am actually quite excited that what I thought was just a mere introductory mail from me, and thereby obviously my first mail to the group, has led to such an interesting discussion. 3. Manoj-da (of Assam Association, Delhi) and ShantikamHazarika : Thanks for mentioning about my winning the national Best film critic Swarna Kamal award in 2003 and being a jury member at the national film awards this year. This kind of constant encouragement helps in thinking of doing something better. 4. A request to everyone in the group: unless there is some kind of rule about this, please delete all the previous mails (except may be the mail to which one is replying to) while hitting the reply button. Otherwise, this makes the mailers very voluminous, with the same mails being appended at the bottom of each mail repetatively. - Utpal Too much spam in your inbox? Yahoo! Mail gives you the best spam protection for FREE! Get Yahoo! Mail ___Assam
Re: [Assam] Re: ref: my introduction
Yes. The word"hut" is very much in vogue in the Hindi language. But they pronounce it as "HAAT" e.g. the Dilli Haat. They mean something like a fair(mela ) by this word. Muktikam PhukanBarua25 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks. I was also looking at my Hindi dictionary where I did not find the word pul. But it is there in Bengali. I did not know that in Hindi they use the wrod though. What about the Assamese word hat (bazar).? It is a very typical word in Assamese. (Jorhat, Borhat, etc). . Do they use it in Hindi. I see it in Bengali dictionary?. Rajen Barua - Original Message ----- From: muktikam phukan To: Barua25 ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 1:15 AM Subject: Re: [Assam] Re: ref: my introduction Thats really interesting! But one thing confused me. "The word pul is not there in Hindi but in Bengali." All my Hindi speaking friends and even people giving road directions when uenquire about locationsin North India call the bridge "PUL". So, I've consulted the hindi dictionary. And infact the word "PUL" for bridge is not there. The correct word is "Setu". Maybe they use the arabic (urdu) word "pul"colloquially. Interesting. Muktikam Phukan Barua25 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jokai is also called jakoi, is not it? I think it is good Assamese word. I wonder if the word is in other Indian languages. That brings usto the question of the other word; SUK. Jokai-suk, Doha-Bora Suk, Hazarika Suk etc. The word suk, I could not find in Hindi or Bengali but only in Assamese. The Arabic has a similar word suk meaning bazar. I am not sure if the Assamese suk came from the Arabic direct. InJorhat we have a market called Sok Bazar.This Sok I think is same as Arabic Suk meaning Bazar. Although in Assamese the meaning of the word suk written as 'corner', I find it hard to believe that Jokai Suk, Doha Bora Suk really mean 'corner'. At one time these words might have meant 'bazar' or 'hat'. It is possible that the Arabic Suk has connection to the Assamese suk. Another such interesting Assamese word is the word pul (bridge). (Xi pulot bohi ase). Th! ! e word pul is not there in Hindi but in Bengali. Also it is in Persian. In Assamese there many such words of Arabic origin which are not found in other Indian languages. Incidently all the following Assamese words are of Arabic origin, These are probably in many other Indian languages: nogod, joma, khoros, khobor, kagoj, kolom, kitab, mosgul, hajir, ohmok, hakim, rokom, dewai, masul, khotom, julum, khali, khalas, malik, sotur, tarikh, son (year), nojor, harami etc Interesting!! Rajen Barua. . - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 11:45 PM Subject: RE: [Assam] Re: ref: my introduction I want to add something in this regard ... 'Jokai' is afamiliar namein Assam.If you go through theassamese newspapers regularly youwill come acrossmany places called 'Jokai' situated indifferent parts of Assam. Ipersonally know a placecalled 'Jokai' ( including a village and a big reserve forest called 'Jokai reserve forest' ), which is around 10Km away from Dibrugarh towards Burhidihing river. Every one must be knowing the company called 'Jokai India Limited'. C.R.Baruah -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Chan MahantaSent: 19 August 2005 08:05To: utpal borpujari; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Assam] Re: ref: my introduction Welcome Utpal. Our paths crossed before. I am sure you remember. Congrats. again on your fine efforts. Thanks for correcting me. I had a vague idea that there indeed is a place called Jokaisuk, but was never clear on where it stood. Turns out it is less than ten miles from my birth-'muluk' :-). But like Ram suggests, it can become a generic but quintessentially kharkhowa, obscure and humble locale, that many of us can claim our roots to. In that it is a band of honor that we proudly wear. Best, c-da At 5:36 PM +0100 8/18/05, utpal borpujari wrote: Hi all. Just a few things: 1. "Actually Jokaisuk is a mythical 'muluk', from which both Tilok Daktor and myself, as well as a host of other kharkhowas can and do hail." - Chandan-da, Jokaisuk, as far as I know (correct me if I am wrong) is not a 'mythical muluk'. In fact, quite contrary to the image the name gives, it is located right on the national highway between Amguri and Sivasagar, before one reaches Gaurisagar. 2. "I thinik our journaluist new comer friend is 'bhoyote touba touba khaise'.- RAJEN" Bhoi khowa nai. I am actually quite excited that what I thought was just a mere introductory mail from me, and thereby obviously my first mail to the group, has led to such an interesting discussion. 3. Manoj-da (of Assam Assoc
Re: [Assam] NE TV's Ekap Half Chah programme
You r right Mr. Chetia. But why should we look at the Brits. Lets see any Talk Show by the established National TV Channels. They never use "Tum" or "Tu". "Aap" is what they invariably use. Of course deviants r the channels like "V" or "MTV". But I believe "NE TV" is no " V" or "MTV". Muktikam PhukanPrasenjit Chetia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But there is a big difference between calling somebody "Apuni" and"Toi". We use some greeting which are not there or maybe in a moregeneralised form in English. As long as we talk in assamese we shouldtry to maintain its beauty and more importantly when someone speaks inpublic to an elected representative he should maintain certaindecorum.Now, have you seen a British greet a Knighted gentleman /peer withoutusing Sir/Lord in the TV ?PrasenjitOn 8/18/05, Dilip/Dil Deka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: I really do not see any problem in the use of "tumi" as long as neither Mr. Bhuyan and Mr. Sarma had any objection. After all there are three accepted forms of "you" in Assamese - "Apuni, Tumi and Toi", and they are used as appropriate between two people. If Bhuyan used "Apuni" just for the show, it wou! ld have been artificial and probably would have put a barrier in the flow of words. Dilip Deka muktikam phukan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Hello everybody I've a small observation to make. Recently I've been to Sivasagar for some official job. It was nice to see the TV channel called NE TV catering to all the major languages of NE including Sikkim. One of the programme I saw was a Talk Show titled "Ekap Half Chah". The anchor Sri Atanu Bhuyan was interviewing a young Assam Minister, Sri Himanta Biswa Sarma. But, I was really astonished to hear Sri Bhuyan calling Sri Sarma "TUMI" all through the programme. Is it not really very unprofessional? Even if Sri Sarma is very junior to Sri Bhuyan or even if they r very good friends, some decorum should have been maintained in such public programmes by calling him "APUNI". A! fter all he is a H'ble Minister of the Govt of Assam, duly elected by the people of Jalukbari. These r small things but if taken care of will go a long way in improving the programmes of this budding channel. My observation has nothing personal against anybody and I may kindly be corrected if I m wrong. Muktikam Phukan Check out Yahoo! India Rakhi Special for Rakhi shopping, contests and lots more. http://in.promos.yahoo.com/rakhi/index.html ___ Assam mailing list Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam Mailing list FAQ: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html To unsubscribe or change options: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam ___ Assam mailing list Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam Mailing list FAQ: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html To unsubscribe or change options: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam -- Prasenjit ChetiaAtlanta, GA Check out Yahoo! India Rakhi Special for Rakhi shopping, contests and lots more. http://in.promos.yahoo.com/rakhi/index.html ___ Assam mailing list Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam Mailing list FAQ: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html To unsubscribe or change options: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam
Re: [Assam] Introduction
Aaha Sokhi aaha. Moyu juwa porohihe sumaisu. Katha kanda bur sosakoye bhal lagise. Imanbur asomiya eke loge. Aasorit nohoine. Muktikam"Dipankar Malla Baruah (Well Logging)" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sambhashan everyone,I am Dipangkar Malla Baruah, working in Oil India Ltd presently posted in Duliajan, Assam as Dy Supdng Engineer. I did BE in electronics from VRCE (REC), Nagpur in 1993. I will like to interact with the people who love Assam in different part of the world.DipangkarWith regardsD M BaruahDy Supdng EngineerWell Logging DepttOil India LtdDuliajan - 786 602AssamPhone : 0374 2803017 (R)094350 39820 (M)___Assam mailing listAssam@pikespeak.uccs.eduhttp://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assamMailing list FAQ:http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.htmlTo unsubscribe or change options:http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam Check out Yahoo! India Rakhi Special for Rakhi shopping, contests and lots more. http://in.promos.yahoo.com/rakhi/index.html ___ Assam mailing list Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam Mailing list FAQ: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html To unsubscribe or change options: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam
Re: Fwd: [Assam] email id
Thats right Mr. Sharma. But all that's remains is sheer nostalgiafor times moved on. M. PhukanRrituraj Sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Welcome to the group Muktikam. Is it the same Muktikam xanto histo hrista prusto maha dusto Phukan? For those who came in late (to this planet), the above is one of the longest radio drama broadcastby AIR, written and directed by Late Shri Bhabendra Nath Saikia. It had created waves on Sunday afternoons in all assamese households ... And this was much before the TV and Net age. Cheers, Rrituraj Bangalore muktikam phukan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everybody! Myself - Muktikam Phukan. New to the group. Working on deputation to PCRA from OIL for last two half years posted at Delhi. Hope to inteact proactively with all of you. Regards M.PhukanBabul Gogoi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Forwarded message --From: Vishal Betala [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Aug 16, 2005 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] email idTo: Babul Gogoi [EMAIL PROTECTED] hi everbody, i'm Vishal Betala.from Guwahati. Presently pursuing MBA from ICFAI in HYderabad. Completed my engg From JORHAT ENGG COLLEGE. bye and keep in touch vishal Babul Gogoi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Vishal, Welcome to the AssamNet ! Would you like to tell us more about yourself? Regards, Babul Gogoi On 8/15/05, Vishal Betala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: my email id [EMAIL PROTECTED] Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page ___Assam mailing listAssam@pikespeak.uccs.edu http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assamMailing list FAQ:http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.htmlTo unsubscribe or change options:http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam -- Babul Gogoihttp://www.bihu.in ___ Assam mailing listAssam@pikespeak.uccs.eduhttp://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assamMailing list FAQ:http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html To unsubscribe or change options:http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page -- Babul Gogoihttp://www.bihu.in ___Assam mailing listAssam@pikespeak.uccs.eduhttp://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assamMailing list FAQ:http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.htmlTo unsubscribe or change options:http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam Check out Yahoo! India Rakhi Special for Rakhi shopping, contests and lots more. http://in.promos.yahoo.com/rakhi/index.html ___Assam mailing listAssam@pikespeak.uccs.eduhttp://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assamMailing list FAQ:http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.htmlTo unsubscribe or change options:http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page Check out Yahoo! India Rakhi Special for Rakhi shopping, contests and lots more. http://in.promos.yahoo.com/rakhi/index.html ___ Assam mailing list Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam Mailing list FAQ: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html To unsubscribe or change options: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam
[Assam] NE TV's Ekap Half Chah programme
Hello everybody I've a small observation to make. Recently I've been to Sivasagar for some official job. It was nice to see the TV channel called NE TV catering to all the major languages of NE including Sikkim. One of the programme I saw was a Talk Show titled "Ekap Half Chah". The anchor Sri Atanu Bhuyan was interviewing a young Assam Minister, Sri Himanta Biswa Sarma. But, I was really astonished to hear Sri Bhuyan calling Sri Sarma "TUMI" all through the programme. Is it not really very unprofessional? Even if Sri Sarma is very junior to Sri Bhuyan or even if they r very good friends, some decorum should have been maintained in such public programmes by calling him "APUNI". After all he is a H'ble Minister of the Govt of Assam, duly elected by the people of Jalukbari. These r small things but if taken care of will go a long way in improving the programmes of this budding channel. My observation has nothing personal against anybody and I may kindly be corrected if I m wrong. Muktikam Phukan Check out Yahoo! India Rakhi Special for Rakhi shopping, contests and lots more. http://in.promos.yahoo.com/rakhi/index.html ___ Assam mailing list Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam Mailing list FAQ: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html To unsubscribe or change options: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam
Re: Fwd: [Assam] email id
Hello everybody! Myself - Muktikam Phukan. New to the group. Working on deputation to PCRA from OIL for last two half years posted at Delhi. Hope to inteact proactively with all of you. Regards M.PhukanBabul Gogoi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Forwarded message --From: Vishal Betala [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Aug 16, 2005 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] email idTo: Babul Gogoi [EMAIL PROTECTED] hi everbody, i'm Vishal Betala.from Guwahati. Presently pursuing MBA from ICFAI in HYderabad. Completed my engg From JORHAT ENGG COLLEGE. bye and keep in touch vishal Babul Gogoi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Vishal, Welcome to the AssamNet ! Would you like to tell us more about yourself? Regards, Babul Gogoi On 8/15/05, Vishal Betala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: my email id [EMAIL PROTECTED] Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page ___Assam mailing listAssam@pikespeak.uccs.edu http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assamMailing list FAQ:http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.htmlTo unsubscribe or change options:http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam -- Babul Gogoihttp://www.bihu.in ___ Assam mailing listAssam@pikespeak.uccs.eduhttp://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assamMailing list FAQ:http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html To unsubscribe or change options:http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page -- Babul Gogoihttp://www.bihu.in ___Assam mailing listAssam@pikespeak.uccs.eduhttp://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assamMailing list FAQ:http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.htmlTo unsubscribe or change options:http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam Check out Yahoo! India Rakhi Special for Rakhi shopping, contests and lots more. http://in.promos.yahoo.com/rakhi/index.html ___ Assam mailing list Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam Mailing list FAQ: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html To unsubscribe or change options: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam
