Re: [Assam] I - Day, AT editorial

2005-08-16 Thread Ram Sarangapani
C'da,

It is totally fine for ULFA or anyone else to have a different view of
democracy, independence or whether or not to celebrate I-Day.

What is galling is the threat the ULFA imposes on a people, who at
least in their minds think they are free and DO want to celebrate
I-Day.

ULFA may not agree with their views, you or others may not agree with
those views, but the fact that ULFA uses bombs and guns to control
public opinion is utterly shameless.

And the ULFA that supposedly yearns for freedom is the very same one
that wants to scuttle it for Assamese people who don't agree with its
views. Who are they kidding?

--Ram



On 8/15/05, Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Good to hear from you after a very long time Namita.
 
 
 But I think you are looking at the issue thru a rather constricted aperture.
 There is a whole lot more to it. Some of it you can see at:
 http://www.dainikagradoot.com/mainnews1.htm
 
 
 and also for Democracy perhaps, but freedom waits.
 at:
 http://www.outlookindia.com/full.asp?fodname=20050822fname=JJohn+Pilgersid=1pn=3
 
 
 You do not need ULFA to reject the festivities of Independence day. That is
 the sad reality. Independence? From Whom? From What?
 
 
 c-da
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 At 9:02 PM -0400 8/15/05, Namita Das wrote:
 Feel terrible how the people of Assam are deprived of celebrating their own
 I-day by a terrible group.
 
 
 - Original Message - From: Ram Sarangapani [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Assam assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu
 Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 5:13 PM
 Subject: [Assam] I - Day, AT editorial
 Some of the sentiments a number of us have been expressing.
 
 __
 I -Day violence
 Calls by the insurgent outfits to boycott the Independence Day and
 Republic Day has become the order of the day and this year is no
 exception as four militant outfits of the north eastern region
 including the United Liberation Front of Asom (ULFA) have given a call
 to boycott the Independence Day celebrations. The ULFA, in an apparent
 move to deter the people of Assam from celebrating the day, even went
 to the extent of claiming that it would attack the venues of the
 Independence Day celebrations. But on the positive side, the number of
 militant outfits giving calls for Independence Day celebrations is
 coming down with every passing year with more and more militant
 outfits coming forward for talks with the Government of India for
 political solution of their problems and the possibility of the ULFA
 being totally isolated in the days to come cannot be ruled out. Major
 militant outfits of the North East region including both the factions
 of the NSCN have been holding talks with the Government of India,
 while, the ULFA lost another of its partner- National Democratic Front
 of Boroland (NDFB) as the Bodo outfit has also signed a cease-fire
 pact with the Government of India, which prevented the outfit from
 giving any call to boycott the Independence Day celebrations.
 
 The threat by the ULFA to attack the venues of the Independence Day
 celebrations also exposed the fact that the frustration level of the
 outfit is growing with every passing year. The ULFA can give boycott
 calls, but the people of Assam have the right to decide whether to
 attend the celebrations or not and no one has the right to use force
 to compel anyone from attending any function. The gruesome killing of
 13 women and children in Dhemaji during the Independence Day
 celebrations last year is still fresh in the memory of the people of
 Assam and the ULFA should remember the State-wide public outcry
 against such kind of mindless killing before issuing any threat to the
 people who decide to attend the Independence Day celebrations. The
 ULFA should also realise the fact that any killing of innocent people
 will further alienate the outfit from the masses and so they should
 desist from targeting innocent people to achieve their goals. The
 outfit should also realise that it would never be able to justify the
 killing of any innocent person to achieve its goal.
 
 The Police and other security agencies have made tight security
 arrangements to foil any attempt by the militant outfit from causing
 any disturbance, but no amount of security is adequate as the forces
 cannot be expected to guard every inch of the land. The militants have
 let loose a reign of terror in different parts of Assam with a series
 of bomb explosions during the run up to the Independence Day and
 instead of engaging the forces in encounters, the militants have
 started to resort to explosions to make their presence felt. With the
 availability of highly sophisticated explosive devices including the
 programmable time devices with the militants, it is impossible to
 detect bombs planted in vulnerable places with the equipment available
 with the State Police and efforts should be made to procaure
 sophisticated equipment to detect bombs planted by the militants under
 the scheme to modernise

Re: [Assam] I - Day, AT editorial

2005-08-16 Thread Chan Mahanta
Title: Re: [Assam] I - Day, AT
editorial


 - that youwill
beindependentas long as you will do whatI tell
youto do, or else!





 You may be right Alpana. I cannot read the minds of
insurgents, and what they hold dear in their deep dark souls.


But to conclude what you do, obviously from actions of the
insurgency/armed struggle mode, as what would logically follow if they
achieve ine dependence, seems rather simple minded and grossly
uninformed --- something highly unexpected of someone of your
caliber.

But I do realize, the act of spinning often presents a skewed
perspective of our own real abilities or ideals. And Tilok Daktor once
told me that too much spinning could exert excessive centrifugal force
on the brain, causing it to get compressed against the cranium, and
permanently impair one's inferential abilities. If I were you, I would
watch out for that A. Tilok may be a goru-daktor and a Jokaisukiya at
that, but he has seen a lot of weird things, that we will never see,
and thus never learn from :-).


c-da














At 12:50 AM -0500 8/16/05, Alpana B. Sarangapani wrote:
day. That is the sad reality.
Independence? From Whom? From
What?

From being told what to do -year
after year -from being threatenedthat if they feel and
thus celebrate their being independent, they would die.

So who is keeping the peoplefrom
being independent? And what kind of independence are they being
promised? - that youwill beindependentas long as you
will do whatI tell youto do, or else!





From: Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Namita Das [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ram
Sarangapani [EMAIL PROTECTED], Assam
assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu
Subject: Re: [Assam] I - Day, AT editorial
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 22:09:45 -0500






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Good to hear from you after a very long time
Namita.





But I think you are looking at the issue thru a rather
constricted aperture.

There is a whole lot more to it. Some of it you can see
at:

http://www.dainikagradoot.com/mainnews1.htm





and also for Democracy perhaps, but freedom
waits.

at:
http://www.outlookindia.com/full.asp?fodname=20050822fname=JJohn+Pilgersid=1pn=3





You do not need ULFA to reject the festivities of
Independence
day. That is the sad reality. Independence? From Whom? From
What?





c-da























At 9:02 PM -0400 8/15/05, Namita Das wrote:

Feel terrible how the people of Assam are
deprived of celebrating their own I-day by a terrible group.





- Original Message - From: Ram Sarangapani
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Assam assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu

Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 5:13 PM

Subject: [Assam] I - Day, AT editorial
Some of the sentiments a number of us
have been expressing.



__

I -Day violence

Calls by the insurgent outfits to boycott the Independence Day and

Republic Day has become the order of the day and this year is no

exception as four militant outfits of the north eastern region

including the United Liberation Front of Asom (ULFA) have given a
call

to boycott the Independence Day celebrations. The ULFA, in an
apparent

move to deter the people of Assam from celebrating the day, even
went

to the extent of claiming that it would attack the venues of the

Independence Day celebrations. But on the positive side, the
number
of

militant outfits giving calls for Independence Day celebrations is

coming down with every passing year with more and more militant

outfits coming forward for talks with the Government of India for

political solution of their problems and the possibility of the
ULFA

being totally isolated in the days to come cannot be ruled out.
Major

militant outfits of the North East region including both the
factions

of the NSCN have been holding talks with the Government of India,

while, the ULFA lost another of its partner- National
Democratic
Front

of Boroland (NDFB) as the Bodo outfit has also signed a cease-fire

pact with the Government of India, which prevented the outfit from

giving any call to boycott the Independence Day celebrations.



The threat by the ULFA to attack the venues of the Independence
Day

celebrations also exposed the fact that the frustration level of
the

outfit is growing with every passing year. The ULFA can give
boycott

calls, but the people of Assam have the right to decide whether to

attend the celebrations or not and no one has the right to use
force

to compel anyone from attending any function. The gruesome killing
of

13 women and children in Dhemaji during the Independence Day

celebrations last year is still fresh in the memory of the people
of

Assam and the ULFA should remember the State-wide public outcry

against such kind of mindless killing before issuing any threat to
the

people who decide to attend the Independence Day celebrations. The

ULFA should also realise the fact that any killing of innocent
people

will further alienate the outfit from the masses and so they
should

Re: [Assam] I - Day, AT editorial

2005-08-16 Thread Chan Mahanta

 ULFA may not agree with their views, you or others may not agree with
those views, but the fact that ULFA uses bombs and guns to control
public opinion is utterly shameless.




*** I cannot refute your argument Ram. It demonstrates your own 
development as a highly evolved human being who holds freedom and 
independence -- albeit under the Indian banner-- in high esteem, and 
thus looks down upon such violent behavior as armed struggle with 
guns and bombs, willingly accepting death and maiming or imprisoned 
indefinitely; by those who seek to achieve their own freedoms, under 
a different banner.



But I am not sure that sense of 'shame' is an absolute value. From 
all I have seen all my life, even right this moment as an American, 
where I came seeking the kind of freedoms I have found; it is a 
RELATIVE one, under the best of circumstances.



On a different plane, but no less relevant, is the Indian 
intelligentsia's sense of shame in their own affairs, as demonstrated 
the corruption of the nation, something, even characters like KPS 
Gill waxes eloquent about on the pages of Outlook India.com, is 
nothing to write home about, to put it mildly. And that is merely in 
one facet of public life.



In that I tend to give more credence to those who put their lives 
where their mouths are. And knowing your integrity, I like to believe 
you too would, if not today, some-day :-).


c-da













At 8:45 AM -0500 8/16/05, Ram Sarangapani wrote:

C'da,

It is totally fine for ULFA or anyone else to have a different view of
democracy, independence or whether or not to celebrate I-Day.

What is galling is the threat the ULFA imposes on a people, who at
least in their minds think they are free and DO want to celebrate
I-Day.

ULFA may not agree with their views, you or others may not agree with
those views, but the fact that ULFA uses bombs and guns to control
public opinion is utterly shameless.

And the ULFA that supposedly yearns for freedom is the very same one
that wants to scuttle it for Assamese people who don't agree with its
views. Who are they kidding?

--Ram



On 8/15/05, Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Good to hear from you after a very long time Namita.


 But I think you are looking at the issue thru a rather constricted aperture.
 There is a whole lot more to it. Some of it you can see at:
 http://www.dainikagradoot.com/mainnews1.htm


 and also for Democracy perhaps, but freedom waits.
 at:

http://www.outlookindia.com/full.asp?fodname=20050822fname=JJohn+Pilgersid=1pn=3


 You do not need ULFA to reject the festivities of Independence day. That is
 the sad reality. Independence? From Whom? From What?


 c-da











 At 9:02 PM -0400 8/15/05, Namita Das wrote:
 Feel terrible how the people of Assam are deprived of celebrating their own
 I-day by a terrible group.


 - Original Message - From: Ram Sarangapani [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Assam assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu
 Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 5:13 PM
 Subject: [Assam] I - Day, AT editorial
 Some of the sentiments a number of us have been expressing.

 __
 I -Day violence
 Calls by the insurgent outfits to boycott the Independence Day and
 Republic Day has become the order of the day and this year is no
 exception as four militant outfits of the north eastern region
 including the United Liberation Front of Asom (ULFA) have given a call
 to boycott the Independence Day celebrations. The ULFA, in an apparent
 move to deter the people of Assam from celebrating the day, even went
 to the extent of claiming that it would attack the venues of the
 Independence Day celebrations. But on the positive side, the number of
 militant outfits giving calls for Independence Day celebrations is
 coming down with every passing year with more and more militant
 outfits coming forward for talks with the Government of India for

  political solution of their problems and the possibility of the ULFA

 being totally isolated in the days to come cannot be ruled out. Major
 militant outfits of the North East region including both the factions
 of the NSCN have been holding talks with the Government of India,
 while, the ULFA lost another of its partner- National Democratic Front
 of Boroland (NDFB) as the Bodo outfit has also signed a cease-fire
 pact with the Government of India, which prevented the outfit from
 giving any call to boycott the Independence Day celebrations.

 The threat by the ULFA to attack the venues of the Independence Day
 celebrations also exposed the fact that the frustration level of the
 outfit is growing with every passing year. The ULFA can give boycott
 calls, but the people of Assam have the right to decide whether to
 attend the celebrations or not and no one has the right to use force
 to compel anyone from attending any function. The gruesome killing of
 13 women and children in Dhemaji during the Independence Day
 celebrations last year is still fresh in the memory of the people

Re: [Assam] I - Day, AT editorial

2005-08-16 Thread Rajib Das
  You do not need ULFA to reject the festivities of
 Independence day. That is
  the sad reality. Independence? From Whom? From
 What?

That is the funny part. All these questions from Cda.
And yet, many many people DO WANT to celebrate the
festivities. I assume those children of Dhemaji did. I
believe those were/are NOT questions these people are
bothered with. 

I do not wonder whether too many people are concerned
about ULFA REJECTING independence day activities. They
are concerned about the damned bombs the ULFA would
place when THEY WANT to take part in the festivities.

What would people do if it was not a terror threat the
ULFA was giving but a call or a request (without any
terror threat)? How many people would take heed and
how many wouldn't?


--- Ram Sarangapani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 C'da,
 
 It is totally fine for ULFA or anyone else to have a
 different view of
 democracy, independence or whether or not to
 celebrate I-Day.
 
 What is galling is the threat the ULFA imposes on a
 people, who at
 least in their minds think they are free and DO want
 to celebrate
 I-Day.
 
 ULFA may not agree with their views, you or others
 may not agree with
 those views, but the fact that ULFA uses bombs and
 guns to control
 public opinion is utterly shameless.
 
 And the ULFA that supposedly yearns for freedom is
 the very same one
 that wants to scuttle it for Assamese people who
 don't agree with its
 views. Who are they kidding?
 
 --Ram
 
 
 
 On 8/15/05, Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  Good to hear from you after a very long time
 Namita.
  
  
  But I think you are looking at the issue thru a
 rather constricted aperture.
  There is a whole lot more to it. Some of it you
 can see at:
  http://www.dainikagradoot.com/mainnews1.htm
  
  
  and also for Democracy perhaps, but freedom
 waits.
  at:
 

http://www.outlookindia.com/full.asp?fodname=20050822fname=JJohn+Pilgersid=1pn=3
  
  
  You do not need ULFA to reject the festivities of
 Independence day. That is
  the sad reality. Independence? From Whom? From
 What?
  
  
  c-da
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  At 9:02 PM -0400 8/15/05, Namita Das wrote:
  Feel terrible how the people of Assam are deprived
 of celebrating their own
  I-day by a terrible group.
  
  
  - Original Message - From: Ram
 Sarangapani [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Assam assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu
  Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 5:13 PM
  Subject: [Assam] I - Day, AT editorial
  Some of the sentiments a number of us have been
 expressing.
  
  __
  I -Day violence
  Calls by the insurgent outfits to boycott the
 Independence Day and
  Republic Day has become the order of the day and
 this year is no
  exception as four militant outfits of the north
 eastern region
  including the United Liberation Front of Asom
 (ULFA) have given a call
  to boycott the Independence Day celebrations. The
 ULFA, in an apparent
  move to deter the people of Assam from celebrating
 the day, even went
  to the extent of claiming that it would attack the
 venues of the
  Independence Day celebrations. But on the positive
 side, the number of
  militant outfits giving calls for Independence Day
 celebrations is
  coming down with every passing year with more and
 more militant
  outfits coming forward for talks with the
 Government of India for
  political solution of their problems and the
 possibility of the ULFA
  being totally isolated in the days to come cannot
 be ruled out. Major
  militant outfits of the North East region
 including both the factions
  of the NSCN have been holding talks with the
 Government of India,
  while, the ULFA lost another of its partner-
 National Democratic Front
  of Boroland (NDFB) as the Bodo outfit has also
 signed a cease-fire
  pact with the Government of India, which prevented
 the outfit from
  giving any call to boycott the Independence Day
 celebrations.
  
  The threat by the ULFA to attack the venues of the
 Independence Day
  celebrations also exposed the fact that the
 frustration level of the
  outfit is growing with every passing year. The
 ULFA can give boycott
  calls, but the people of Assam have the right to
 decide whether to
  attend the celebrations or not and no one has the
 right to use force
  to compel anyone from attending any function. The
 gruesome killing of
  13 women and children in Dhemaji during the
 Independence Day
  celebrations last year is still fresh in the
 memory of the people of
  Assam and the ULFA should remember the State-wide
 public outcry
  against such kind of mindless killing before
 issuing any threat to the
  people who decide to attend the Independence Day
 celebrations. The
  ULFA should also realise the fact that any killing
 of innocent people
  will further alienate the outfit from the masses
 and so they should
  desist from targeting innocent people to achieve
 their goals. The
  outfit should also realise that it would never be
 able to justify the
  killing

Re: [Assam] I - Day, AT editorial

2005-08-16 Thread Rajib Das
I guess most people understands freedoms and ideas are
relative. Those that don't are the ones willing to
maim and kill if people don't accept their point of
view. Like not going to Independence day celebrations.

Thinking people make their choices, hold it up to
reason and then change some when those choices turn
against reason.

Going by the logic presented on this post, when Osama
Bin Laden and his cohorts blow up civilians and
buildings, it is a fight for freedom. So is it when
Daniel Pearl's head is cut off. And children in Beslan
are held in a siege and then killed ruthlessly. Heck,
even Hitler's mass murder of Jews was about creating a
better Germany.

But then we have to make our choices. Most thinking
people would, in my opinion, make the choice AGAINST
the idea of killing children just because they chose
to celebrate Independence day. Even when, some who,
like me, have not made a sacrifice of their life but
are content posting opinions here opine that he is
going to give credence to those giving their lives.
The choice is between me or him, not me or ULFA or for
that matter me or the Indian Army. The choice, in this
case, is clear.



--- Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   ULFA may not agree with their views, you or
 others may not agree with
 those views, but the fact that ULFA uses bombs and
 guns to control
 public opinion is utterly shameless.
 
 
 
 *** I cannot refute your argument Ram. It
 demonstrates your own 
 development as a highly evolved human being who
 holds freedom and 
 independence -- albeit under the Indian banner-- in
 high esteem, and 
 thus looks down upon such violent behavior as armed
 struggle with 
 guns and bombs, willingly accepting death and
 maiming or imprisoned 
 indefinitely; by those who seek to achieve their own
 freedoms, under 
 a different banner.
 
 
 But I am not sure that sense of 'shame' is an
 absolute value. From 
 all I have seen all my life, even right this moment
 as an American, 
 where I came seeking the kind of freedoms I have
 found; it is a 
 RELATIVE one, under the best of circumstances.
 
 
 On a different plane, but no less relevant, is the
 Indian 
 intelligentsia's sense of shame in their own
 affairs, as demonstrated 
 the corruption of the nation, something, even
 characters like KPS 
 Gill waxes eloquent about on the pages of Outlook
 India.com, is 
 nothing to write home about, to put it mildly. And
 that is merely in 
 one facet of public life.
 
 
 In that I tend to give more credence to those who
 put their lives 
 where their mouths are. And knowing your integrity,
 I like to believe 
 you too would, if not today, some-day :-).
 
 c-da
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 At 8:45 AM -0500 8/16/05, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
 C'da,
 
 It is totally fine for ULFA or anyone else to have
 a different view of
 democracy, independence or whether or not to
 celebrate I-Day.
 
 What is galling is the threat the ULFA imposes on a
 people, who at
 least in their minds think they are free and DO
 want to celebrate
 I-Day.
 
 ULFA may not agree with their views, you or others
 may not agree with
 those views, but the fact that ULFA uses bombs and
 guns to control
 public opinion is utterly shameless.
 
 And the ULFA that supposedly yearns for freedom is
 the very same one
 that wants to scuttle it for Assamese people who
 don't agree with its
 views. Who are they kidding?
 
 --Ram
 
 
 
 On 8/15/05, Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
   Good to hear from you after a very long time
 Namita.
 
 
   But I think you are looking at the issue thru a
 rather constricted aperture.
   There is a whole lot more to it. Some of it you
 can see at:
   http://www.dainikagradoot.com/mainnews1.htm
 
 
   and also for Democracy perhaps, but freedom
 waits.
   at:
  

http://www.outlookindia.com/full.asp?fodname=20050822fname=JJohn+Pilgersid=1pn=3
 
 
   You do not need ULFA to reject the festivities
 of Independence day. That is
   the sad reality. Independence? From Whom? From
 What?
 
 
   c-da
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   At 9:02 PM -0400 8/15/05, Namita Das wrote:
   Feel terrible how the people of Assam are
 deprived of celebrating their own
   I-day by a terrible group.
 
 
   - Original Message - From: Ram
 Sarangapani [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: Assam assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu
   Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 5:13 PM
   Subject: [Assam] I - Day, AT editorial
   Some of the sentiments a number of us have been
 expressing.
 
   __
   I -Day violence
   Calls by the insurgent outfits to boycott the
 Independence Day and
   Republic Day has become the order of the day and
 this year is no
   exception as four militant outfits of the north
 eastern region
   including the United Liberation Front of Asom
 (ULFA) have given a call
   to boycott the Independence Day celebrations.
 The ULFA, in an apparent
   move to deter the people of Assam from
 celebrating the day, even went
   to the extent of claiming that it would attack

[Assam] I - Day, AT editorial

2005-08-15 Thread Ram Sarangapani
Some of the sentiments a number of us have been expressing.

__
I -Day violence
Calls by the insurgent outfits to boycott the Independence Day and
Republic Day has become the order of the day and this year is no
exception as four militant outfits of the north eastern region
including the United Liberation Front of Asom (ULFA) have given a call
to boycott the Independence Day celebrations. The ULFA, in an apparent
move to deter the people of Assam from celebrating the day, even went
to the extent of claiming that it would attack the venues of the
Independence Day celebrations. But on the positive side, the number of
militant outfits giving calls for Independence Day celebrations is
coming down with every passing year with more and more militant
outfits coming forward for talks with the Government of India for
political solution of their problems and the possibility of the ULFA
being totally isolated in the days to come cannot be ruled out. Major
militant outfits of the North East region including both the factions
of the NSCN have been holding talks with the Government of India,
while, the ULFA lost another of its partner- National Democratic Front
of Boroland (NDFB) as the Bodo outfit has also signed a cease-fire
pact with the Government of India, which prevented the outfit from
giving any call to boycott the Independence Day celebrations.

The threat by the ULFA to attack the venues of the Independence Day
celebrations also exposed the fact that the frustration level of the
outfit is growing with every passing year. The ULFA can give boycott
calls, but the people of Assam have the right to decide whether to
attend the celebrations or not and no one has the right to use force
to compel anyone from attending any function. The gruesome killing of
13 women and children in Dhemaji during the Independence Day
celebrations last year is still fresh in the memory of the people of
Assam and the ULFA should remember the State-wide public outcry
against such kind of mindless killing before issuing any threat to the
people who decide to attend the Independence Day celebrations. The
ULFA should also realise the fact that any killing of innocent people
will further alienate the outfit from the masses and so they should
desist from targeting innocent people to achieve their goals. The
outfit should also realise that it would never be able to justify the
killing of any innocent person to achieve its goal.

The Police and other security agencies have made tight security
arrangements to foil any attempt by the militant outfit from causing
any disturbance, but no amount of security is adequate as the forces
cannot be expected to guard every inch of the land. The militants have
let loose a reign of terror in different parts of Assam with a series
of bomb explosions during the run up to the Independence Day and
instead of engaging the forces in encounters, the militants have
started to resort to explosions to make their presence felt. With the
availability of highly sophisticated explosive devices including the
programmable time devices with the militants, it is impossible to
detect bombs planted in vulnerable places with the equipment available
with the State Police and efforts should be made to procaure
sophisticated equipment to detect bombs planted by the militants under
the scheme to modernise the State police force. At the same time,
efforts should be made by the Government of India to bring the
militants to the negotiation table for a political solution to the
problem of insurgency, which haunted the State for more than two
decades and at the time, the militants should also respect the
sentiments of the people of Assam and come forward for talks with the
Government for an amicable solution of their problems. The people of
Assam are now fed up with violence and they want a peaceful solution
to the problem and both the Government and the ULFA should come
forward for talks without any pre-condition to bring an end to an era
of violence and loss of life of innocent people.

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Re: [Assam] I - Day, AT editorial

2005-08-15 Thread Namita Das
Feel terrible how the people of Assam are deprived of celebrating their own 
I-day by a terrible group.



- Original Message - 
From: Ram Sarangapani [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Assam assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 5:13 PM
Subject: [Assam] I - Day, AT editorial



Some of the sentiments a number of us have been expressing.

__
I -Day violence
Calls by the insurgent outfits to boycott the Independence Day and
Republic Day has become the order of the day and this year is no
exception as four militant outfits of the north eastern region
including the United Liberation Front of Asom (ULFA) have given a call
to boycott the Independence Day celebrations. The ULFA, in an apparent
move to deter the people of Assam from celebrating the day, even went
to the extent of claiming that it would attack the venues of the
Independence Day celebrations. But on the positive side, the number of
militant outfits giving calls for Independence Day celebrations is
coming down with every passing year with more and more militant
outfits coming forward for talks with the Government of India for
political solution of their problems and the possibility of the ULFA
being totally isolated in the days to come cannot be ruled out. Major
militant outfits of the North East region including both the factions
of the NSCN have been holding talks with the Government of India,
while, the ULFA lost another of its partner- National Democratic Front
of Boroland (NDFB) as the Bodo outfit has also signed a cease-fire
pact with the Government of India, which prevented the outfit from
giving any call to boycott the Independence Day celebrations.

The threat by the ULFA to attack the venues of the Independence Day
celebrations also exposed the fact that the frustration level of the
outfit is growing with every passing year. The ULFA can give boycott
calls, but the people of Assam have the right to decide whether to
attend the celebrations or not and no one has the right to use force
to compel anyone from attending any function. The gruesome killing of
13 women and children in Dhemaji during the Independence Day
celebrations last year is still fresh in the memory of the people of
Assam and the ULFA should remember the State-wide public outcry
against such kind of mindless killing before issuing any threat to the
people who decide to attend the Independence Day celebrations. The
ULFA should also realise the fact that any killing of innocent people
will further alienate the outfit from the masses and so they should
desist from targeting innocent people to achieve their goals. The
outfit should also realise that it would never be able to justify the
killing of any innocent person to achieve its goal.

The Police and other security agencies have made tight security
arrangements to foil any attempt by the militant outfit from causing
any disturbance, but no amount of security is adequate as the forces
cannot be expected to guard every inch of the land. The militants have
let loose a reign of terror in different parts of Assam with a series
of bomb explosions during the run up to the Independence Day and
instead of engaging the forces in encounters, the militants have
started to resort to explosions to make their presence felt. With the
availability of highly sophisticated explosive devices including the
programmable time devices with the militants, it is impossible to
detect bombs planted in vulnerable places with the equipment available
with the State Police and efforts should be made to procaure
sophisticated equipment to detect bombs planted by the militants under
the scheme to modernise the State police force. At the same time,
efforts should be made by the Government of India to bring the
militants to the negotiation table for a political solution to the
problem of insurgency, which haunted the State for more than two
decades and at the time, the militants should also respect the
sentiments of the people of Assam and come forward for talks with the
Government for an amicable solution of their problems. The people of
Assam are now fed up with violence and they want a peaceful solution
to the problem and both the Government and the ULFA should come
forward for talks without any pre-condition to bring an end to an era
of violence and loss of life of innocent people.

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[Assam] I-Day,AT editorial

2005-08-15 Thread kjdeka

That is the ULFA's version of living in a " Fantasy Island",known as " Swadhin Axom"!!!
KJD
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Re: [Assam] I - Day, AT editorial

2005-08-15 Thread Chan Mahanta
Title: Re: [Assam] I - Day, AT
editorial


Good to hear from you after a very long time Namita.


But I think you are looking at the issue thru a rather
constricted aperture.
There is a whole lot more to it. Some of it you can see at:
http://www.dainikagradoot.com/mainnews1.htm


and also for Democracy perhaps, but freedom waits.
at:
http://www.outlookindia.com/full.asp?fodname=20050822fname=JJohn+Pilgersid=1pn=3


You do not need ULFA to reject the festivities of Independence
day. That is the sad reality. Independence? From Whom? From
What?


c-da











At 9:02 PM -0400 8/15/05, Namita Das wrote:
Feel terrible how the people of Assam are
deprived of celebrating their own I-day by a terrible group.


- Original Message - From: Ram Sarangapani
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Assam assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 5:13 PM
Subject: [Assam] I - Day, AT editorial
Some of the sentiments a number of us
have been expressing.

__
I -Day violence
Calls by the insurgent outfits to boycott the Independence Day and
Republic Day has become the order of the day and this year is no
exception as four militant outfits of the north eastern region
including the United Liberation Front of Asom (ULFA) have given a
call
to boycott the Independence Day celebrations. The ULFA, in an
apparent
move to deter the people of Assam from celebrating the day, even
went
to the extent of claiming that it would attack the venues of the
Independence Day celebrations. But on the positive side, the number
of
militant outfits giving calls for Independence Day celebrations is
coming down with every passing year with more and more militant
outfits coming forward for talks with the Government of India for
political solution of their problems and the possibility of the
ULFA
being totally isolated in the days to come cannot be ruled out.
Major
militant outfits of the North East region including both the
factions
of the NSCN have been holding talks with the Government of India,
while, the ULFA lost another of its partner- National Democratic
Front
of Boroland (NDFB) as the Bodo outfit has also signed a cease-fire
pact with the Government of India, which prevented the outfit from
giving any call to boycott the Independence Day celebrations.

The threat by the ULFA to attack the venues of the Independence
Day
celebrations also exposed the fact that the frustration level of
the
outfit is growing with every passing year. The ULFA can give
boycott
calls, but the people of Assam have the right to decide whether to
attend the celebrations or not and no one has the right to use
force
to compel anyone from attending any function. The gruesome killing
of
13 women and children in Dhemaji during the Independence Day
celebrations last year is still fresh in the memory of the people
of
Assam and the ULFA should remember the State-wide public outcry
against such kind of mindless killing before issuing any threat to
the
people who decide to attend the Independence Day celebrations. The
ULFA should also realise the fact that any killing of innocent
people
will further alienate the outfit from the masses and so they
should
desist from targeting innocent people to achieve their goals. The
outfit should also realise that it would never be able to justify
the
killing of any innocent person to achieve its goal.

The Police and other security agencies have made tight security
arrangements to foil any attempt by the militant outfit from
causing
any disturbance, but no amount of security is adequate as the
forces
cannot be expected to guard every inch of the land. The militants
have
let loose a reign of terror in different parts of Assam with a
series
of bomb explosions during the run up to the Independence Day and
instead of engaging the forces in encounters, the militants have
started to resort to explosions to make their presence felt. With
the
availability of highly sophisticated explosive devices including
the
programmable time devices with the
militants, it is impossible to
detect bombs planted in vulnerable places with the equipment
available
with the State Police and efforts should be made to procaure
sophisticated equipment to detect bombs planted by the militants
under
the scheme to modernise the State police force. At the same time,
efforts should be made by the Government of India to bring the
militants to the negotiation table for a political solution to the
problem of insurgency, which haunted the State for more than two
decades and at the time, the militants should also respect the
sentiments of the people of Assam and come forward for talks with
the
Government for an amicable solution of their problems. The people
of
Assam are now fed up with violence and they want a peaceful
solution
to the problem and both the Government and the ULFA should come
forward for talks without any pre-condition to bring an end to an
era
of violence and loss of life of innocent people

Re: [Assam] I - Day, AT editorial

2005-08-15 Thread Alpana B. Sarangapani
day. That is the sad reality. Independence? From Whom? From What?
From being told what to do -year after year -from being threatenedthat if they feel and thus celebrate their being independent, they would die.
So who is keeping the peoplefrom being independent? And what kind of independence are they being promised? - that youwill beindependentas long as you will do whatI tell youto do, or else!



From: Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: "Namita Das" [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Ram Sarangapani" [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Assam" assam@pikespeak.uccs.eduSubject: Re: [Assam] I - Day, AT editorialDate: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 22:09:45 -0500



Good to hear from you after a very long time Namita.


But I think you are looking at the issue thru a rather constricted aperture.
There is a whole lot more to it. Some of it you can see at:
http://www.dainikagradoot.com/mainnews1.htm


and also for Democracy perhaps, but freedom waits.
at: http://www.outlookindia.com/full.asp?fodname=20050822fname=JJohn+Pilgersid=1pn=3


You do not need ULFA to reject the festivities of Independence day. That is the sad reality. Independence? From Whom? From What?


c-da











At 9:02 PM -0400 8/15/05, Namita Das wrote:
Feel terrible how the people of Assam are deprived of celebrating their own I-day by a terrible group.- Original Message - From: "Ram Sarangapani" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: "Assam" assam@pikespeak.uccs.eduSent: Monday, August 15, 2005 5:13 PMSubject: [Assam] I - Day, AT editorial
Some of the sentiments a number of us have been expressing.__I -Day violenceCalls by the insurgent outfits to boycott the Independence Day andRepublic Day has become the order of the day and this year is noexception as four militant outfits of the north eastern regionincluding the United Liberation Front of Asom (ULFA) have given a callto boycott the Independence Day celebrations. The ULFA, in an apparentmove to deter the people of Assam from celebrating the day, even wentto the extent of claiming that it would attack the venues of theIndependence Day celebrations. But on the positive side, the number ofmilitant outfits giving calls for Independence Day celebrations iscoming down with every passing year with more and more 
militantoutfits coming forward for talks with the Government of India forpolitical solution of their problems and the possibility of the ULFAbeing totally isolated in the days to come cannot be ruled out. Majormilitant outfits of the North East region including both the factionsof the NSCN have been holding talks with the Government of India,while, the ULFA lost another of its partner- National Democratic Frontof Boroland (NDFB) as the Bodo outfit has also signed a cease-firepact with the Government of India, which prevented the outfit fromgiving any call to boycott the Independence Day celebrations.The threat by the ULFA to attack the venues of the Independence Daycelebrations also exposed the fact that the frustration level of theoutfit is growing with every 
passing year. The ULFA can give boycottcalls, but the people of Assam have the right to decide whether toattend the celebrations or not and no one has the right to use forceto compel anyone from attending any function. The gruesome killing of13 women and children in Dhemaji during the Independence Daycelebrations last year is still fresh in the memory of the people ofAssam and the ULFA should remember the State-wide public outcryagainst such kind of mindless killing before issuing any threat to thepeople who decide to attend the Independence Day celebrations. TheULFA should also realise the fact that any killing of innocent peoplewill further alienate the outfit from the masses and so they shoulddesist from targeting innocent people to achieve their goals. Theoutfit 
should also realise that it would never be able to justify thekilling of any innocent person to achieve its goal.The Police and other security agencies have made tight securityarrangements to foil any attempt by the militant outfit from causingany disturbance, but no amount of security is adequate as the forcescannot be expected to guard every inch of the land. The militants havelet loose a reign of terror in different parts of Assam with a seriesof bomb explosions during the run up to the Independence Day andinstead of engaging the forces in encounters, the militants havestarted to resort to explosions to make their presence felt. With theavailability of highly sophisticated explosive devices including the
programmable time devices with the militants, it is impossible todetect bombs planted in vulnerable places with the equipment availablewith the State Police and efforts should be made to procauresophisticated equipment to detect bombs planted by the militants underthe scheme to modernise the State police force. At the same time,efforts should be made by the Government of India to bring themilitants to the negotiation table for a political s