[asom] Kamrupi concern over Ahom innovation

2008-12-16 Thread Surajit Jaradhara
I definitely do not find this is an interesting topic at all to discuss,
 and was trying very hard not to comment on this. But then, since this has now 
started to
trickle down a few emotional, nostalgic sentiments so I would like to express 
whatever this
lesser mortal/ obhajan can think of. Entire part of my childhood was centered 
around Guwahati and the nearby towns ( now they are towns)  memories are drawn 
from there.
During the Durga Puja  festival and other festivals, the Ojha Pali was 
performed with great ease by people coming from many areas surrounding Guwahati 
, even from Mangaldoi.
They performed  various ttypes of Ojha Palis ( Byas Ojha, Sukannani Ojha etc). 
Interested ones can procure the book on the subject written by Sh. Nabin 
Sharma. The performance was done in complete coherence with the local dialect. 
Ojha pali is also performed in some sattras in Assam  as per the expressive 
dialect. There are also different forms of Dhulias, Nagara ( nagra) naam, 
tokari geet etc. which display a diverse range of performances, apart from the 
BIHU or other harvest related festivals.
Now we know that these performances are becoming lesser and lesser or one can 
say not taken seriously by younger generation. Well there also exist very 
popular personalities performing Naam with large orchestration of taal and khol 
in the same areas in question, where it is feared the language is dying. 
According to me it is not dying. The customary performances are being taken 
care of seriously. The situation is not only prevailing in one area ,which is 
under question, but true  for all over Assam for various performing arts.
Ambikagiri Rai Choudhury( it may be roy choudhury as well), whenever he met 
people, used to say Dekh khan ggel ai, Kiba ata kor.
I did chanced upon to flip through an assamese new daily where one lady writer 
( i could not remember her name) did seem to write  bisshwayanar dhamkhumiyat 
pothobrosto,dikbidikshonyo huwa asomiya somaj ( well the defition of asomiya- I 
dont want to get into this anyway) ketiya nijoke sombhalibo paribo!
There seem to be many writting in this blog site, and yes people/members spread 
across world might also be reading all the posts and not trying to comment. It 
is known.
 
Well, all of us who has the luxury of having access to internet and having the 
capacity to instantly work out some cerebral action to type out few words, 
obviously due to the unbroilical connection to the land - do finally seem to be 
a school of highly brained ...whatever. Ambikagiri Rai Choudhury must have 
written today, if he came visiting  moran noha gila khane eko korba nollak, 
bhaonat ...oops ...Internetot bohi bhimor boson maitsi --- buli ek brihot 
karjya etat nijoke niyok Korise. Some one might even say  Hait, bhimor boson 
motato iman sohoj kam buli bhabiso neki toi.  Aho Sobhasod jono, Aho guni 
jono, toharo mohima oparo. Bujibi lage Kiba , Bujili kiba.
Obviously Ambikagiri Rai Choudhury, a revered personality like him didnot say  
Amar ai onchalto gel ai
With warm regards.
SJ
 


--- On Tue, 12/16/08, Dhyanjyoti Deka dj_i...@yahoo.com wrote:

From: Dhyanjyoti Deka dj_i...@yahoo.com
Subject: [asom] Kamrupi concern over Ahom innovation
To: assamonline@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 1:12 AM






Interesting topic. I am a Kamrupi from my father's side. The surname Deka says 
it all. The reason for this language dying is the stigma associated with 
speaking it in front of people who speak the upper Assamese dialects. I do not 
speak it cause my mom does not speak it and deuta doesn't speak it unless he is 
angry!!

But yeah, I was ridiculed as a Dhekeri many times in school (cause of my 
surname). Also I remember from my friends' stories how speaking Kamrupi could 
have had a catastrophic impact on your dating life. I don't know how we can get 
rid of this taboo on the Kamrupi language in Assam. Probably it will remain and 
eventually, we will all have a united dialect.

Anyway, those are my two cents. Very simple thoughts. I do not understand and 
will probably not even try to go after the difference between Kharkhowa, 
Assamese, Kamrupi, Ahom etc.

- Dhyan

--- On Mon, 15/12/08, Dilip and Dil Deka dilipd...@yahoo. com wrote:

From: Dilip and Dil Deka dilipd...@yahoo. com
Subject: [asom] Kamrupi concern over Ahom innovation
To: assamonline@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, 15 December, 2008, 9:52 AM

My humble input:
I am a Kamrupi by ancestry, though I am surrounded by non-Kamrupi as relatives.
If the Kamrupi do not want to and know how to maintain their Kamrupi character, 
nothing else will help.
More and more Kamrupi in Guwahati are discarding Kamrupi language in favor of 
other languages including Hindi and English.
The real solution is in finding out why they are indulging in this practice, in 
stead of blaming the immigrants to Guwahati.
I'll be surprised if Kamrupi is fading in Nalbari, Soygaon, Barpeta and Hazo. 
Please tell me if 

[asom] Kamrupi concern over Ahom innovation

2008-12-16 Thread Bijoy Kumar Pait
Nevertheless, when it comes to preserving a particular language, every effort 
must be made by the intellectuals.

regards
Pait

BKPait
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 Dhyanjyoti Deka dj_i...@yahoo.com 12/16/2008 1:12 AM 
Interesting topic. I am a Kamrupi from my father's side. The surname Deka says 
it all. The reason for this language dying is the stigma associated with 
speakingit in front of people who speak the upper Assamese dialects. I do not 
speak it cause my mom does not speak it and deuta doesn't speak it unless he is 
angry!! 

But yeah, I was ridiculed as a Dhekeri many times in school (cause of my 
surname). Also I remember from my friends' stories how speaking Kamrupi could 
have had a catastrophic impact on your dating life. I don't know howwe canget 
rid of this taboo on the Kamrupi language in Assam. Probably it will remain and 
eventually, we will all have a united dialect. 

Anyway, those are my two cents. Very simple thoughts. I do not understand and 
will probably not even try to go after the difference between Kharkhowa, 
Assamese, Kamrupi, Ahom etc.

- Dhyan


--- On Mon, 15/12/08, Dilip and Dil Deka dilipd...@yahoo.com wrote:

From: Dilip and Dil Deka dilipd...@yahoo.com
Subject: [asom] Kamrupi concern over Ahom innovation
To: assamonline@yahoogroups.com 
Date: Monday, 15 December, 2008, 9:52 AM

My humble input:
I am a Kamrupi by ancestry, though I am surrounded by non-Kamrupi as relatives.
If the Kamrupi do not want to and know how to maintain their Kamrupi character, 
nothing else will help.
More and more Kamrupi in Guwahati are discarding Kamrupi language in favor of 
other languages including Hindi and English.
The real solution is in finding out why they are indulging in this practice, in 
stead of blaming the immigrants to Guwahati.
I'll be surprised if Kamrupi is fading in Nalbari, Soygaon, Barpeta and Hazo. 
Please tell me if I am wrong.
I know The late Prafulla Barua wrote a book in Kamrupi language. To enhance my 
knowledge, did any one else write
in Kamrupi?
Dilip Deka


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[asom] a question to muslim immigrants having roots in Bangladesh

2008-12-16 Thread kuladip baro
Bangladeshi Muslim immigrants (also members of this forum) having roots in 
Bangladesh frequently claims that , there is no alarming infiltration going 
on..that they are more Assamese than the Tribals...etc.. and above all , 
THEY HAVE NO AFFINITY TO BANGLADESH

If it is so, why we get to see the picture of the  Jamuna Bridge and use of 
the Bangladeshi Taka in the Chhars of Dhuburi, Gowalpara, Barpeta and Darrang?? 

(Now please dont argue that, Bhutan currency is available in BTAD 
area.presence of Bangladeshi Taka in Mankachar may be understandable but 
why in Gowalpara, Barpeta and Darrang???)



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