Re: [asterisk-users] World Cheapest Predictive Dialer!

2008-06-17 Thread Steve Totaro
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 12:07 AM, Jay R. Ashworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 11:11:00AM -0400, Steve Totaro wrote:
 On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 10:35 AM, Jay R. Ashworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 01:25:18PM -0400, Alex Balashov wrote:
  Is there a contradiction between them?
 
  Naw; Steve's just showin' his ass again.

 Nah, just showing various tactics, sure some contradict each other.

 Yes, but clearly, neither Alex nor I thought that the two you quoted
 actually *do* contradict one another.  He was just being polite.

 Cheers,
 -- jra
 --

That will be the day, Alex and Jay being polite.

Thanks,
Steve T

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Re: [asterisk-users] OT How Digium Saved My Bacon!

2008-06-17 Thread Atis Lezdins
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 6:45 AM, Sherwood McGowan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Matt Florell wrote:
 Hello,

 I guess I am one of the lucky few to have one of these handy
 screwdrivers and it saved me when my son(aged 2) somehow locked
 himself in a bedroom and couldn't unlock the door. The door knob
 needed a very small slotted screwdriver to twist-unlock the door and
 the Digium tweeker(which was also in my pencil cup) saved my bacon as
 well that night :)

 Any chance of more of these being handed out at Astricon this year?

 Thanks,

 MATT---

 On 6/16/08, Mark Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Now you're just trying to get us all jealous, Steve. No good.
  But I'd like that screwdriver!



  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Totaro
  Sent: June 16, 2008 8:41 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Asterisk Users Mailing List -
  Non-Commercial Discussion
  Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] OT How Digium Saved My Bacon!


 I had a laser pointer and power point controller device but the Digium
  logo rubbed off after a week  I do have a t-shirt though

  Thanks,
  Steve T

  On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 8:36 PM, Andrew Kohlsmith (lists)
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On June 16, 2008 07:22:18 pm Mark Hamilton wrote:
   How come he has it, and he's in Paris! I'm in Toronto, and I don't have
  it?
  
   Yeah, me too.  I even got a mention in the book, but no screwdriver? :-(
  
   -A.


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 All I have to say is Murf, SEND ME ONE I'll do anything (within
 reason) ;-) AEL bug reporting, improvement suggestions, hell I debug and
 report on the entire new CDR/CEL branch :)

 ROFLno seriouslyI want one ;-)

How about sending those out when certain amount of karma is reached? ;-)

Regards,
Atis

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Re: [asterisk-users] OT How Digium Saved My Bacon!

2008-06-17 Thread Steve Totaro
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 2:56 AM, Atis Lezdins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 6:45 AM, Sherwood McGowan
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Matt Florell wrote:
 Hello,

 I guess I am one of the lucky few to have one of these handy
 screwdrivers and it saved me when my son(aged 2) somehow locked
 himself in a bedroom and couldn't unlock the door. The door knob
 needed a very small slotted screwdriver to twist-unlock the door and
 the Digium tweeker(which was also in my pencil cup) saved my bacon as
 well that night :)

 Any chance of more of these being handed out at Astricon this year?

 Thanks,

 MATT---

 On 6/16/08, Mark Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Now you're just trying to get us all jealous, Steve. No good.
  But I'd like that screwdriver!



  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Totaro
  Sent: June 16, 2008 8:41 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Asterisk Users Mailing List -
  Non-Commercial Discussion
  Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] OT How Digium Saved My Bacon!


 I had a laser pointer and power point controller device but the Digium
  logo rubbed off after a week  I do have a t-shirt though

  Thanks,
  Steve T

  On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 8:36 PM, Andrew Kohlsmith (lists)
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On June 16, 2008 07:22:18 pm Mark Hamilton wrote:
   How come he has it, and he's in Paris! I'm in Toronto, and I don't have
  it?
  
   Yeah, me too.  I even got a mention in the book, but no screwdriver? :-(
  
   -A.


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 All I have to say is Murf, SEND ME ONE I'll do anything (within
 reason) ;-) AEL bug reporting, improvement suggestions, hell I debug and
 report on the entire new CDR/CEL branch :)

 ROFLno seriouslyI want one ;-)

 How about sending those out when certain amount of karma is reached? ;-)

 Regards,
 Atis


It seems you get these goodies at Astricon events.

Thanks,
Steve T

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Re: [asterisk-users] need ata suggestion

2008-06-17 Thread Eric Fort
I was looking for an option to weigh against a full blown asterisk system.
If I use asterisk as an expensive ata then there isn't much point in keeping
the key system is there?  While I could hack a solution together (pap2 and
Wrt54gs running * on openwrt comes to mind) I'd really rather not.  Unless I
do a full blown * box for the client I'm looking for a simple ata solution.

Eric

On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 10:37 PM, Gordon Henderson 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, 16 Jun 2008, Eric Fort wrote:

  I'm presently working on provisioning VoIP to a traditional key system.
  I
  have a single SIP DID inbound that gives me a maximum of 2 concurrent
  channels.  I need an ATA that will ring the second station port when the
  first is in use.  What devices will do this with a single sip
 registration
  with the provider?

 Er, Asterisk will do this with a TDM400 card or clone.

 Expensive ATA though :)

 But maybe an AVM Fritz! box will work for you too...

 Gordon

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Re: [asterisk-users] OT How Digium Saved My Bacon!

2008-06-17 Thread Atis Lezdins
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 10:03 AM, Steve Totaro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 2:56 AM, Atis Lezdins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 6:45 AM, Sherwood McGowan
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Matt Florell wrote:
 Hello,

 I guess I am one of the lucky few to have one of these handy
 screwdrivers and it saved me when my son(aged 2) somehow locked
 himself in a bedroom and couldn't unlock the door. The door knob
 needed a very small slotted screwdriver to twist-unlock the door and
 the Digium tweeker(which was also in my pencil cup) saved my bacon as
 well that night :)

 Any chance of more of these being handed out at Astricon this year?

 Thanks,

 MATT---

 On 6/16/08, Mark Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Now you're just trying to get us all jealous, Steve. No good.
  But I'd like that screwdriver!



  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Totaro
  Sent: June 16, 2008 8:41 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Asterisk Users Mailing List -
  Non-Commercial Discussion
  Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] OT How Digium Saved My Bacon!


 I had a laser pointer and power point controller device but the Digium
  logo rubbed off after a week  I do have a t-shirt though

  Thanks,
  Steve T

  On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 8:36 PM, Andrew Kohlsmith (lists)
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On June 16, 2008 07:22:18 pm Mark Hamilton wrote:
   How come he has it, and he's in Paris! I'm in Toronto, and I don't 
 have
  it?
  
   Yeah, me too.  I even got a mention in the book, but no screwdriver? 
 :-(
  
   -A.


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 All I have to say is Murf, SEND ME ONE I'll do anything (within
 reason) ;-) AEL bug reporting, improvement suggestions, hell I debug and
 report on the entire new CDR/CEL branch :)

 ROFLno seriouslyI want one ;-)

 How about sending those out when certain amount of karma is reached? ;-)

 Regards,
 Atis


 It seems you get these goodies at Astricon events.


Unfortuneately it's too far and too expensive for me to get there.

Regards,
Atis


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Re: [asterisk-users] Reg call recording

2008-06-17 Thread Atis Lezdins
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 8:34 AM, Sherwood McGowan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Bikrish Amatya wrote:
 Hi all

 I am using asterisk as pbx for my company. My company has requirement
 that all the incoming and outgoing calls should be recorded for all the
 extensions and should be able to play recorded call on extensions basis,
 that is , say 123 extension has made what call on the particular date
 and should be able to play and listen to it. What is the better way to
 achieve this? Any kind of suggestion is truly appreciated.

 Bikrish

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 A simple web interface, such as asterisk-stats coupled with some basic
 modifications to link to a recording that was made with ${UNIQUEID} as
 the recording filename (pre extension, use monitor + soxmix to mix the
 recordings) will work just fine, I use it on a medium-large installation
 that does about 10K calls a day, with no issues in regards to recordings
 or ability to access calls/recordings.


I have similar setup, and here are some suggestions from my experience.

Do recording only in native format, that will decrease the load by
transcoding at working time.
Whenever somebody requests to listen, you can mix, transcode and play.
This usually takes few seconds (however depends on call duration). Mix
and transcode (to some lower bandwidth codec) the rest of recordings
at night time.

Personally I record everything in ulaw, and either on listen or at
night transcode to gsm for storage.

Regards,
Atis


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Re: [asterisk-users] Call Center

2008-06-17 Thread Syed Nasruddin

Dear Sherwood,

Thanks.

Just three questions:

1. Will I be needing Apache or Asterk-stat will handle itself?
2. Are there How-tos for integerating asterisk-stat with asterisk?
3. My Recordings are being saved in the default folder i.e:
/var/spool/asterisk/monitor/  in .gsm format. When I wish to listen to a
particular recording I first convert it with SOX utility into .wav
format and then listen it. Will this also be automated so that when I
select a recording and try to listen it will be in right format.

Thanks again.

Syed Nasruddin 



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sherwood
McGowan
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 8:44 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Call Center

Syed Nasruddin wrote:
 Dear Sherwood,

 I am also using Asterisk Call Center Setup in my office with voice
 recording. The only thing I am unable to setup is web based call
 recording (CDR) access. From your email I think you have configured
such
 a thing can you please share with me how can I also setup this
solution.
 I know how to run and install Apache. Don't know abt PostgreSQL.
However
 can do it if you can define some steps.  

 And also how to integrate this all PostgreSQl+Apache+Web Based Links
to
 Recordings. It will be a great help.

 regards 


 Syed Nasruddin 


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sherwood
 McGowan
 Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 5:45 AM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Call Center

 broadband Voice wrote:
   
 Is anyone using Asterisk as a call center. I want to be able to set
it
 

   
 up for my office line, when calls come in after 7:00pm Est want a 
 recording to says the office is closed and have about 5 phones that I

 want to use as an agent. Can anyone share their implementation?
 
 Thanks.
   


   
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 There's a ton of us on here who have installations in call centers.
What

 would you like to know?

 I currently have a Dual AMD64 2.4Ghz (Dual Cores on each) with 4GB RAM

 running a Tormenta 2 and a Digium 407. Two T1s going to a PRI,  12 FXO

 channels in a Rhino modular channel bank (all on the Digium card), and
2

 24 port adtran total access channel banks running on the Tormenta. The

 Adtrans drive the 40 analog phones for the sales floor, and we have 25

 SIP phones. All phone conversations are recording by Asterisk and are 
 converted from GSM to Speex post-call by speexenc. We also run 
 PostgreSQL and Apache on the same system to serve CDRs with links to 
 recordings.

 Anything else you'd like to know?

   
Syed,
What I did for a quick and dirty solution was install asterisk-stats and

modify the source code to include a link to the unique filename of the 
recording (I use ${UNIQUEID}). This has worked just fine for our 75 or 
so phone setup :)  IIRC we found asterisk-stats on voip-info.org. We 
just used that instead of creating an in house CDR web app, since the 
client just needed a basic interface to look up calls and pull the 
recordings.

If you'd like more information just let me know.

-- 
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VoIP / Telecom Solutions
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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[asterisk-users] voicemail problem

2008-06-17 Thread fateme fatah
Hi:


I configured asterisk for voicemail service.My main configuration files are:


extensions.conf


[from-pstn]


exten =gt; 9711315,1,Dial(SIP/3000,30)


exten =gt; 9711315,2,VoiceMail([EMAIL PROTECTED])


exten =gt; 9711315,3,PlayBack(vm-goodbye)


exten =gt; 9711315,4,HangUp()





voicemail.conf


[ff_tutorial]


555 =gt; 1234567,3000,[EMAIL PROTECTED]


sip.conf


[3000]


type=friend


username=3000


secret=1234567


host=dynamic


context=from-pstn


[EMAIL PROTECTED]





But when I dial  9711315, after 30s I hear goodbye and call hangups.


in console:


 


-- Accepting call from '3322000' to '9711315' on channel 0/2, span 1


-- Executing Dial(Zap/2-1, SIP/3000|30) in new stack


-- Called 3000


-- SIP/3000-08f18698 is ringing


Jun 24 11:55:32 WARNING[4112]: chan_zap.c:8093 zt_pri_error: Call Reference 
Length not supported: 0


Jun 24 11:55:42 WARNING[4112]: chan_zap.c:8093 zt_pri_error: Call Reference 
Length not supported: 0


Jun 24 11:55:52 WARNING[4112]: chan_zap.c:8093 zt_pri_error: Call Reference 
Length not supported: 0


-- Nobody picked up in 3 ms


-- Executing VoiceMail(Zap/2-1, [EMAIL PROTECTED]) in new stack


Jun 24 11:55:53 WARNING[5188]: app_voicemail.c:2461 leave_voicemail: No entry 
in voicemail config file for '555'


-- Executing Playback(Zap/2-1, vm-goodbye) in new stack


-- Playing 'vm-goodbye' (language 'en')


-- Executing Hangup(Zap/2-1, ) in new stack


  == Spawn extension (from-pstn, 9711315, 4) exited non-zero on 'Zap/2-1'


-- Hungup 'Zap/2-1'


Jun 24 11:56:02 WARNING[4112]: chan_zap.c:8093 zt_pri_error: Call Reference 
Length not supported: 0








what's problem?


should I do something in sip phone for voicemail?


I'd appreciate any help.


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Re: [asterisk-users] need ata suggestion

2008-06-17 Thread Gordon Henderson
On Tue, 17 Jun 2008, randulo wrote:

 On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 7:37 AM, Gordon Henderson
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 But maybe an AVM Fritz! box will work for you too...

 Would anyone care to recommend a good quality, stable ATA these days
 for just a single cordless phone connected to one SIP provider. Sipura
 used to be well thought-of. Are they still the best?

This might depends on your country (re. availability), but I've had a lot 
of good results with the Siemens DECT range... (eg. S450IP) The 
base-station has a built in ATA, so 2 sockets, one PSTN, one Ethernet...

Although if you already have a DECT phone, then who knows - I've used 
Grandstreams and they're OK, bu seem a bit laggy on answering - ie. 
pickup, then nothing for a second...

Gordon

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[asterisk-users] Audiocodes

2008-06-17 Thread Steven Howes
Afternoon All,

Does anyone here have any experience with an Audiocodes Mediant 2000?  
I know its a bit 'non asterisk' but i figured you guys are as likely  
as any to have come across them. I'm having a few problems with one,  
i.e. its not sending screening/privacy flags although it is sending  
caller ID field. If anyone has come across this (or is willing to give  
their 2 cents) i would be really grateful. Thanks in advance.

Steve

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Re: [asterisk-users] OT: Re: OT How Digium Saved My Bacon!

2008-06-17 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith (lists)
On June 17, 2008 01:45:43 am randulo wrote:
 The screwdriver is reversible, it swings both ways, pull out the shank
 and stick it in the other way, it becomes a Phillips. I'm tellin ya,
 there Digium engineers are good!

Most every pocket screwdriver that is sold as a promotional item is like that.  
It's not always good; I cut my hand pretty badly when the phillips end slid 
clean through the screwdriver and into my hand once.

I wonder if they'll consider a slot/robertson combination for us 
northerners.  :-)

-A.

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[asterisk-users] Problem with realtime?

2008-06-17 Thread Mike
I get that a lot since moving to 1.4.21 (from 1.4.18 or something).

 

[Jun 17 09:19:54] WARNING[22053]: res_config_mysql.c:360 update_mysql: MySQL
RealTime: Failed to query database. Check debug for more info.

 

Question 1: what debug file should I be looking at?

 

 

 

Mick

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Re: [asterisk-users] Problem with realtime?

2008-06-17 Thread Mike
Just an addition: that happens big time when I do a sip reload from the
CLI

 

I know this should help me already, but it doesn`t…

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 09:23
To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'
Subject: [asterisk-users] Problem with realtime?

 

I get that a lot since moving to 1.4.21 (from 1.4.18 or something).

 

[Jun 17 09:19:54] WARNING[22053]: res_config_mysql.c:360 update_mysql: MySQL
RealTime: Failed to query database. Check debug for more info.

 

Question 1: what debug file should I be looking at?

 

 

 

Mick

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Re: [asterisk-users] voicemail problem

2008-06-17 Thread Tilghman Lesher
On Tuesday 17 June 2008 04:05:58 fateme fatah wrote:
 I configured asterisk for voicemail service.My main configuration files
 are:


 voicemail.conf

 [ff_tutorial]
 555 =gt; 1234567,3000,[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 But when I dial  9711315, after 30s I hear goodbye and call hangups.

 in console:

 -- Accepting call from '3322000' to '9711315' on channel 0/2, span 1
 -- Executing Dial(Zap/2-1, SIP/3000|30) in new stack
 -- Called 3000
 -- SIP/3000-08f18698 is ringing
 -- Nobody picked up in 3 ms
 -- Executing VoiceMail(Zap/2-1, [EMAIL PROTECTED]) in new stack
 Jun 24 11:55:53 WARNING[5188]: app_voicemail.c:2461 leave_voicemail: No
 entry in voicemail config file for '555'

Did you reload after changing voicemail.conf?  What is the output of
'voicemail show users'?

-- 
Tilghman

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Re: [asterisk-users] Reg call recording

2008-06-17 Thread Kevin Smith
What I have done for our office is actually built my own interface with 
php and used our SQL database to store the information. Basically I keep 
all the recordings in gsm format, and store them however I want. I use 
MixMonitor and use DeadAGI to run a script to rename the file and move 
it to the directory for that extension. So in your exmaple, 
.../recordings/123/[file name]

I also used session information from the login page to store the 
person's extension (which we also have in the DB, but there are other 
ways to do this) that is looking at the interface so when play want to 
listen to the call, it will generate a call file and dial their phone 
and playback the file (works nice if you don't have 
speakers/headphones). Or they can download it. Downloading it will run a 
script to convert it to wav.

I don't know of a best way to do this. I know if you take the time and 
put the effort, you can get what you/your company wants if you build 
your own. Or go with some of the other suggestions made which also work 
perfectly well. I think for me it took about 2 weeks to fully build/test 
everything and I was coding it by myself (on top of other 
responsibilities at work).

Kevin

Bikrish Amatya wrote:
 Hi all

 I am using asterisk as pbx for my company. My company has requirement 
 that all the incoming and outgoing calls should be recorded for all the 
 extensions and should be able to play recorded call on extensions basis, 
 that is , say 123 extension has made what call on the particular date 
 and should be able to play and listen to it. What is the better way to 
 achieve this? Any kind of suggestion is truly appreciated.

 Bikrish

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Re: [asterisk-users] Problem with realtime?

2008-06-17 Thread Tilghman Lesher
On Tuesday 17 June 2008 08:23:08 Mike wrote:
 I get that a lot since moving to 1.4.21 (from 1.4.18 or something).

 [Jun 17 09:19:54] WARNING[22053]: res_config_mysql.c:360 update_mysql:
 MySQL RealTime: Failed to query database. Check debug for more info.

 Question 1: what debug file should I be looking at?

Check your logger.conf to see if you're even logging debug output someplace.

(I'm not quite sure why somebody decided that error message was a good idea:
if there was a problem, why not tell people what the problem was, instead of
telling them to look elsewhere?)

-- 
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[asterisk-users] Zapata/DAHDI Disable Hardware echo canceler based on SDA number / displan

2008-06-17 Thread Benoit Plessis

Is it possible on a TE220p to deactivate the hardware echo canceler at 
will ? (With a function in the dialpan for example)
example for fax SDA ,beeing able to shutdown the echo canceler could 
give better results don't you think ?

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[asterisk-users] looking for help / input with Blind transfer from asterisk to zap

2008-06-17 Thread Paul Belanger
List,

Having a little trouble with the following.  Let me prefix by saying I
have blind transfers working from the following setup.

Inbound call [from-zap] (SIP/sv0071iv) answers.
Zaptel - Asterisk - SIP extension

SIP extension then blind transfers [from-sip]
---
SIP extension - Asterisk - Zaptel

During this whole process, the original channel off the trunk
(lineside T1) is used for the blind transfer (hookflash)

---
[from-sip]
exten = _NXXX,1,Flash()
exten = _NXXX,n,SendDTMF(${EXTEN})
exten = _NXXX,n,Hangup()

[from-zap]
exten = s,1,Dial(SIP/sv0071iv)
exten = s,n,Dial(SIP/sv0072iv)
exten = s,n,Goto(AA,s,1)

[AA]
exten = s,1,Wait(.5)
exten = s,n,Background(vm-whichbox)
exten = s,n,WaitExten

exten = _5XXX,1,Playback(transfer)
exten = _5XXX,n,Flash()
exten = _5XXX,n,SendDTMF(${EXTEN})
exten = _5XXX,n,Hangup()
---

Now, for whatever reason if sv0071iv, and sv0072iv fail to qualify),
asterisk will play a simple menu choice asking which extension they
want to transfer too (Mind the Background message, this part is not
finished).

Zaptel - Asterisk - Blind Transfer Zaptel (hookflash)

The problem is, I'm having trouble getting asterisk to do the blind
transfer.  As you see, I'm using the same logic to hookflash over,
send DTMF and hand up.

Any I missing something?

Thanks again,
PB

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Re: [asterisk-users] looking for help / input with Blind transfer from asterisk to zap

2008-06-17 Thread Paul Belanger
I always seem to figure my issues just after I post to the list.  Had
to add a Wait(.5) after the hookflash.
--
[AA]
exten = s,1,Wait(.5)
exten = s,n,Background(vm-whichbox)
exten = s,n,WaitExten

exten = _5XXX,1,Playback(transfer)
exten = _5XXX,n,Flash()
exten = _5XXX,n,Wait(.5)
exten = _5XXX,n,SendDTMF(${EXTEN})
exten = _5XXX,n,Hangup()

Thanks again,
PB

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Paul Belanger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 List,

 Having a little trouble with the following.  Let me prefix by saying I
 have blind transfers working from the following setup.

 Inbound call [from-zap] (SIP/sv0071iv) answers.
 Zaptel - Asterisk - SIP extension

 SIP extension then blind transfers [from-sip]
 ---
 SIP extension - Asterisk - Zaptel

 During this whole process, the original channel off the trunk
 (lineside T1) is used for the blind transfer (hookflash)

 ---
 [from-sip]
 exten = _NXXX,1,Flash()
 exten = _NXXX,n,SendDTMF(${EXTEN})
 exten = _NXXX,n,Hangup()

 [from-zap]
 exten = s,1,Dial(SIP/sv0071iv)
 exten = s,n,Dial(SIP/sv0072iv)
 exten = s,n,Goto(AA,s,1)

 [AA]
 exten = s,1,Wait(.5)
 exten = s,n,Background(vm-whichbox)
 exten = s,n,WaitExten

 exten = _5XXX,1,Playback(transfer)
 exten = _5XXX,n,Flash()
 exten = _5XXX,n,SendDTMF(${EXTEN})
 exten = _5XXX,n,Hangup()
 ---

 Now, for whatever reason if sv0071iv, and sv0072iv fail to qualify),
 asterisk will play a simple menu choice asking which extension they
 want to transfer too (Mind the Background message, this part is not
 finished).

 Zaptel - Asterisk - Blind Transfer Zaptel (hookflash)

 The problem is, I'm having trouble getting asterisk to do the blind
 transfer.  As you see, I'm using the same logic to hookflash over,
 send DTMF and hand up.

 Any I missing something?

 Thanks again,
 PB


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[asterisk-users] strange SIP-SIP delay

2008-06-17 Thread Julian Lyndon-Smith
I've got the following setup:

PhoneA -
  router -
   vpn -
router-
 asterisk (SIP / ISDN)

PhoneB -
  asterisk (SIP / ISDN)

If phone A is connected to phone B (sip-sip), there is a noticable delay 
(up to 2-3 seconds) between me speaking and the other end hearing.

If phone A calls out via the ISDN and back in  to the DDI of phone B (ie 
SIP-ISDN-ISDN-SIP) then there is no delay at all !

Any clues on where I might start looking for this ?

Julian

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Re: [asterisk-users] strange SIP-SIP delay

2008-06-17 Thread Steve Totaro
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Julian Lyndon-Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've got the following setup:

 PhoneA -
  router -
   vpn -
router-
 asterisk (SIP / ISDN)

 PhoneB -
  asterisk (SIP / ISDN)

 If phone A is connected to phone B (sip-sip), there is a noticable delay
 (up to 2-3 seconds) between me speaking and the other end hearing.

 If phone A calls out via the ISDN and back in  to the DDI of phone B (ie
 SIP-ISDN-ISDN-SIP) then there is no delay at all !

 Any clues on where I might start looking for this ?

 Julian


Have you tested the latency across your VPN?

Thanks,
Steve T

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Re: [asterisk-users] Zapata/DAHDI Disable Hardware echo canceler based on SDA number / displan

2008-06-17 Thread Kevin P. Fleming
Benoit Plessis wrote:
 Is it possible on a TE220p to deactivate the hardware echo canceler at 
 will ? (With a function in the dialpan for example)
 example for fax SDA ,beeing able to shutdown the echo canceler could 
 give better results don't you think ?

All echo cancelers using Zaptel/DAHDI already disable themselves when
FAX or modem communications are used, based on reception and detection
of the CED tone that FAX machines and modems generate to make that
happen. You can tell this happened by looking at the channel in Asterisk
using 'zap show channel' or 'dahdi show channel' as it will show you
that the echo canceler was disabled automatically.

-- 
Kevin P. Fleming
Director of Software Technologies
Digium, Inc. - The Genuine Asterisk Experience (TM)

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Re: [asterisk-users] World Cheapest Predictive Dialer!

2008-06-17 Thread C F
LLCs?

On 6/16/08, Jay R. Ashworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 11:13:31PM -0400, C F wrote:
   Happens in the commercial world all the time; it's a common way to get
   cash out of the corporation -- a business's building is owned by the
   corporation's owners, and rented to the corporation.
 
  This is actually illegal in some states and considered a breach of
  Fiduciary everywhere.

 May be, but I know at least 3 owners of private corporations who are
 doing it, and their auditors seem fine with it.  I think that it
 matters whether the corporation is public or not...

 Cheers,
 -- jra
 --
 Jay R. Ashworth   Baylink  [EMAIL 
 PROTECTED]
 Designer The Things I Think   RFC 2100
 Ashworth  Associates http://baylink.pitas.com '87 e24
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Re: [asterisk-users] strange SIP-SIP delay

2008-06-17 Thread Julian Lyndon-Smith
Hi Steve - the vpn is a consistent as the sip-IDSN has to go through 
the VPN first to get to asterisk.

i.e. to make an outside call, PhoneA goes through the vpn to the 
asterisk box, and out through isdn.

Julian

Steve Totaro wrote:
 On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Julian Lyndon-Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 I've got the following setup:

 PhoneA -
  router -
   vpn -
router-
 asterisk (SIP / ISDN)

 PhoneB -
  asterisk (SIP / ISDN)

 If phone A is connected to phone B (sip-sip), there is a noticable delay
 (up to 2-3 seconds) between me speaking and the other end hearing.

 If phone A calls out via the ISDN and back in  to the DDI of phone B (ie
 SIP-ISDN-ISDN-SIP) then there is no delay at all !

 Any clues on where I might start looking for this ?

 Julian

 
 Have you tested the latency across your VPN?
 
 Thanks,
 Steve T
 


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[asterisk-users] Putting incoming sip call leg on MOH while dialing out other party**********NEED HELP************

2008-06-17 Thread Mohammad Mirzaee
Dear All



I need help to implement the follwoing Senario:

  

1- Incoming SIP call comes to asterisk and putting caller on MOH

 2- While the caller is on MOH , dialing out other party and when asterisk 
recive ANSWER , MOH should be disconnected, then bridging the 2 call legs 



Appreciate your Help


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Re: [asterisk-users] World Cheapest Predictive Dialer!

2008-06-17 Thread Steve Totaro
You are probably confusing corporate tactics to pay less taxes vs
corporate tactics to protect assets.  The first does provide some
asset protection but is mainly to pay less taxes.  The second is to
basically hide assets through totally legal LLCs.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 12:00 PM, C F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 LLCs?

 On 6/16/08, Jay R. Ashworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 11:13:31PM -0400, C F wrote:
   Happens in the commercial world all the time; it's a common way to get
   cash out of the corporation -- a business's building is owned by the
   corporation's owners, and rented to the corporation.
 
  This is actually illegal in some states and considered a breach of
  Fiduciary everywhere.

 May be, but I know at least 3 owners of private corporations who are
 doing it, and their auditors seem fine with it.  I think that it
 matters whether the corporation is public or not...

 Cheers,
 -- jra
 --
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 PROTECTED]
 Designer The Things I Think   RFC 
 2100
 Ashworth  Associates http://baylink.pitas.com '87 
 e24
 St Petersburg FL USA  http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 
 1274

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Re: [asterisk-users] Zapata/DAHDI Disable Hardware echo canceler based on SDA number / displan

2008-06-17 Thread Johann Steinwendtner
Kevin P. Fleming wrote:
 Benoit Plessis wrote:
 Is it possible on a TE220p to deactivate the hardware echo canceler at 
 will ? (With a function in the dialpan for example)
 example for fax SDA ,beeing able to shutdown the echo canceler could 
 give better results don't you think ?
 
 All echo cancelers using Zaptel/DAHDI already disable themselves when
 FAX or modem communications are used, based on reception and detection
 of the CED tone that FAX machines and modems generate to make that
 happen. You can tell this happened by looking at the channel in Asterisk
 using 'zap show channel' or 'dahdi show channel' as it will show you
 that the echo canceler was disabled automatically.
 
I thought the ec gets disabled only by the ec disable tone and not the CED tone.



regards

Hans

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[asterisk-users] Packages for ubuntu

2008-06-17 Thread Cyril SCETBON
Hi,

Did someone try to package new releases for ubuntu version like 
gutsy/hardy ?

thanks
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Re: [asterisk-users] Putting incoming sip call leg on MOH while dialing out other party**********NEED HELP************

2008-06-17 Thread Fred Posner

You can use the m flag of dial on the incoming sip channel, such as:

exten = s,n,dial(Local/[EMAIL PROTECTED]|60|m)


Fred Posner




On Jun 17, 2008, at 12:04 PM, Mohammad Mirzaee wrote:


Dear All



I need help to implement the follwoing Senario:



1- Incoming SIP call comes to asterisk and putting caller on MOH

 2- While the caller is on MOH , dialing out other party and when  
asterisk recive ANSWER , MOH should be disconnected, then bridging  
the 2 call legs




Appreciate your Help


Mohammad Mirzaee
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Re: [asterisk-users] World Cheapest Predictive Dialer!

2008-06-17 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 12:00:18PM -0400, C F wrote:
 On 6/16/08, Jay R. Ashworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 11:13:31PM -0400, C F wrote:
Happens in the commercial world all the time; it's a common way to get
cash out of the corporation -- a business's building is owned by the
corporation's owners, and rented to the corporation.
  
   This is actually illegal in some states and considered a breach of
   Fiduciary everywhere.
 
  May be, but I know at least 3 owners of private corporations who are
  doing it, and their auditors seem fine with it.  I think that it
  matters whether the corporation is public or not...

 LLCs?

No, my assertion was that I believe that 'Steve's assertion that it is
illegal and a breach of duty for a corporation's officers to own its
real estate and lease it back to the company' may be dependent on
whether the company is publicly owned or not.

I suspect that there is no breach in the case of a private company,
because different fiduciary duties pertain.

I'll ask my client who's the ex-president of one of the companies I was
talking about.

Cheers,
-- jra
-- 
Jay R. Ashworth   Baylink  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Designer The Things I Think   RFC 2100
Ashworth  Associates http://baylink.pitas.com '87 e24
St Petersburg FL USA  http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274

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Re: [asterisk-users] World Cheapest Predictive Dialer!

2008-06-17 Thread Steve Totaro
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Jay R. Ashworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 12:00:18PM -0400, C F wrote:
 On 6/16/08, Jay R. Ashworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 11:13:31PM -0400, C F wrote:
Happens in the commercial world all the time; it's a common way to get
cash out of the corporation -- a business's building is owned by the
corporation's owners, and rented to the corporation.
  
   This is actually illegal in some states and considered a breach of
   Fiduciary everywhere.
 
  May be, but I know at least 3 owners of private corporations who are
  doing it, and their auditors seem fine with it.  I think that it
  matters whether the corporation is public or not...

 LLCs?

 No, my assertion was that I believe that 'Steve's assertion that it is
 illegal and a breach of duty for a corporation's officers to own its
 real estate and lease it back to the company' may be dependent on
 whether the company is publicly owned or not.

 I suspect that there is no breach in the case of a private company,
 because different fiduciary duties pertain.

 I'll ask my client who's the ex-president of one of the companies I was
 talking about.


Please don't attribute quotes to me that I did not make or even
assert.  It was CF and maybe Alex

Re-read the thread and stop showing your a**..  Comprehension and
retention is key.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

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Re: [asterisk-users] World Cheapest Predictive Dialer!

2008-06-17 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 01:05:59PM -0400, Steve Totaro wrote:
 On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Jay R. Ashworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 12:00:18PM -0400, C F wrote:
  On 6/16/08, Jay R. Ashworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 11:13:31PM -0400, C F wrote:
 Happens in the commercial world all the time; it's a common way to 
 get
 cash out of the corporation -- a business's building is owned by the
 corporation's owners, and rented to the corporation.
   
This is actually illegal in some states and considered a breach of
Fiduciary everywhere.
  
   May be, but I know at least 3 owners of private corporations who are
   doing it, and their auditors seem fine with it.  I think that it
   matters whether the corporation is public or not...
 
  LLCs?
 
  No, my assertion was that I believe that 'Steve's assertion that it is
  illegal and a breach of duty for a corporation's officers to own its
  real estate and lease it back to the company' may be dependent on
  whether the company is publicly owned or not.
 
  I suspect that there is no breach in the case of a private company,
  because different fiduciary duties pertain.
 
  I'll ask my client who's the ex-president of one of the companies I was
  talking about.
 
 Please don't attribute quotes to me that I did not make or even
 assert.  It was CF and maybe Alex

I'm entirely sorry, Steve; you're right.  I misread it.  It was CF who
made the assertion I was commenting on.

Cheers,
-- jra
-- 
Jay R. Ashworth   Baylink  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Designer The Things I Think   RFC 2100
Ashworth  Associates http://baylink.pitas.com '87 e24
St Petersburg FL USA  http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274

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Re: [asterisk-users] World Cheapest Predictive Dialer!

2008-06-17 Thread Alex Balashov
The asset protection entities are completely legal.  There's nothing 
wrong ipso facto with doing it.

The question is only whether they will succeed in protecting your assets 
when your assets are actually challenged.  It depends on the size and 
scope of the judgment, the circumstances in which it takes place, the 
quality and nature of the litigation, and so on.

It is the gulf between the theoretical and the de facto that I am 
attempting to illuminate.  In practise, in situations where courts and 
plaintiffs are most rabidly after your assets (i.e. bankruptcies of 
various stripes), merely having them owned by entities other than the 
one being sued may not be enough.

-- 
Alex Balashov
Evariste Systems
Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/
Tel: (+1) (678) 954-0670
Direct : (+1) (678) 954-0671
Mobile : (+1) (706) 338-8599

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Re: [asterisk-users] Please Advice on Best High traffic fxo gateway/cards

2008-06-17 Thread James Mutuku
Michael,

I agree. Here we use e1s(which have even more channels). Some clients 
just don't want to change some if their old infrastructure.

Thanks

Michael Graves wrote:
 I just hafta ask, why does one face down a requirement for 48 FXOs? 

 Would it not be more practical to have 2 T-1s dropped into the
 location?

 Michael

 On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 17:35:35 -0400, Steve Totaro wrote:

   
 Adit 600 48 FXO.

 On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 12:11 PM, James Mutuku [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Steve,
Thanks for the responses. I am talking of 45 POTS
 Thanks

 Steve Totaro wrote:

 Sorry,

 Quantify High Traffic

 How many POTS lines are we talking about?

 Thanks,
 Steve Totaro

 On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 10:47 AM, Steve Totaro
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I use Adtran or Adit, I think Rhino has a pretty low priced one but I
 have never used so cannot comment.  I can tell you that the Adtran or
 Adit is rock solid.

 Thanks,
 Steve Totaro

 On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 10:43 AM, James Mutuku [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Please advice on  channel bank
 Steve Totaro wrote:


 I would suggest a channel bank populated with FXO cards muxing to a T1.

 Thanks,
 Steve T

 On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 10:06 AM, James Mutuku [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 Hi,
   I need to get an fxo gateway/card for a high traffic asterisk
 installation. Please advice on which gateway/ fxo cards
 Thanks



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Re: [asterisk-users] Please Advice on Best High traffic fxo gateway/cards

2008-06-17 Thread Steve Totaro
Some customers are locked into two year contracts.

That was the answer I got when adding four POTS lines to a system with
four BRIs...

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 1:39 PM, James Mutuku [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Michael,

 I agree. Here we use e1s(which have even more channels). Some clients
 just don't want to change some if their old infrastructure.

 Thanks

 Michael Graves wrote:
 I just hafta ask, why does one face down a requirement for 48 FXOs?

 Would it not be more practical to have 2 T-1s dropped into the
 location?

 Michael

 On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 17:35:35 -0400, Steve Totaro wrote:


 Adit 600 48 FXO.

 On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 12:11 PM, James Mutuku [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Steve,
Thanks for the responses. I am talking of 45 POTS
 Thanks

 Steve Totaro wrote:

 Sorry,

 Quantify High Traffic

 How many POTS lines are we talking about?

 Thanks,
 Steve Totaro

 On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 10:47 AM, Steve Totaro
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I use Adtran or Adit, I think Rhino has a pretty low priced one but I
 have never used so cannot comment.  I can tell you that the Adtran or
 Adit is rock solid.

 Thanks,
 Steve Totaro

 On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 10:43 AM, James Mutuku [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Please advice on  channel bank
 Steve Totaro wrote:


 I would suggest a channel bank populated with FXO cards muxing to a T1.

 Thanks,
 Steve T

 On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 10:06 AM, James Mutuku [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 Hi,
   I need to get an fxo gateway/card for a high traffic asterisk
 installation. Please advice on which gateway/ fxo cards
 Thanks



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[asterisk-users] asterisk v1.6 queue() continue after answered call

2008-06-17 Thread Martin Schrott - thinking:systems
Hi list,

we upgraded to v1.6 and have a problem understanding the queue() behaveour 
of the v1.6 in queues.

we try to set the queue up to not hangup if an agent answeres the call but 
then hangs up again.

we would then like the queue to go on in the dialplan. But the queue does 
not want to go on and hangs up. :-(

we triyed to use the c flag
and the timeoutrestart
both did not work.

How could we set up the queue to go on after a call?

Hope anybody can help.

thank you
Martin


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Re: [asterisk-users] need ata suggestion

2008-06-17 Thread Eric Fort
Can the PAP2 be set up such that a second call will ring the second line
when the first is busy but only register once with the SIP provider?  A beep
tone on the same line to denote another incoming call just will not do, The
second port needs to act like a seperate line tied to the same DID in a hunt
group.

Eric

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 3:52 AM, Rob Hillis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 IMO, yes - sort of.  :)  Since Linksys bought Sipura, you're probably
 looking at the Linksys PAP2 - the functional equivalent of the Sipura
 SPA-2000.  They look different (better if you ask me - the LEDs are far
 better placed and more useful than they were on the Sipura units) but
 are pretty much identical under the hood.


 randulo wrote:
  On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 7:37 AM, Gordon Henderson
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  But maybe an AVM Fritz! box will work for you too...
 
 
  Would anyone care to recommend a good quality, stable ATA these days
  for just a single cordless phone connected to one SIP provider. Sipura
  used to be well thought-of. Are they still the best?
 
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Re: [asterisk-users] Packages for ubuntu

2008-06-17 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 06:45:30PM +0200, Cyril SCETBON wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Did someone try to package new releases for ubuntu version like 
 gutsy/hardy ?

The Ubuntu packages are based on the Debian ones and basically packaged
from the same repository.

http://pkg-voip.alioth.debian.org/

You can rebuild the package with svn-buildpackage . Some distributions
need the backporting hook scripts. Simply run:

  ./debian/backports/distroname

in the build directory. E.g.:

  ./debian/backports/gutsy

You'll probably need to use the option --svn-ignore-new for
svn-buildpackage as this will make some local changes.

It should then build. If it doesn't, please report so we can update that
backport script.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Reg recording of calls

2008-06-17 Thread Bikrish Amatya
Hi all
I appreciate the help that you have given me on call recording. I would 
like to share how i achieve the way i wanted. I used monitor and soxmix 
for this. First i used monitor to record the calls and made use of 
system command to create directory of each extension and inside each 
directory of respecitve extension created  a sound file name with soxmix 
to create sound file in data-time format and i gave ftp access to the 
person of the recording directory. Now he can go have ftp access and go 
to each directory access the sound file by data and time.




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[asterisk-users] connectivity with oracle database and astreisk

2008-06-17 Thread Bikrish Amatya
Hi all

In my company there is oracle database which has the information about 
the client. Now my requirement is... when my clients calls to our 
company .. they should be able to get information about them when they 
call to our pbx. I mean how can  reterive information from oracle 
database and play it to clients .

Thanks in advance

Bikrish

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Re: [asterisk-users] World Cheapest Predictive Dialer!

2008-06-17 Thread Mark Hamilton
How can they even set such 1234567890 callerIDs anyway? 
For example, our inter/intra state calling depends a lot on the callerIDs.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Florell
Sent: June 13, 2008 8:20 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] World Cheapest Predictive Dialer!

Hello,

I am not suggesting that the USA's laws exist outside of the USA, I
can imagine the horrible problems that would cause in the rest of
world. I wanted to point out that if you are using this service and
doing business in the USA that you could face penalties for not
following the law. According to the FTC, both companies(the scrubber
and the client) are guilty of breaking the laws of the USA.

If you are calling the USA and need to use this company's FTC DNC list
filtering services then you may have USA-based operations of some
kind. In such cases it is important to note that companies have been
fined millions of dollars and have been shut down in the USA for
violating these regulations.

I am well aware of the fact that companies based outside of the USA
routinely call-blast the USA with auto-dialers that send out callerIDs
such as 1234567890 and do no filtering against the USA FTC DNC lists.
A large portion of these companies are doing lead-generation for
USA-based companies, and over the years a lot of those USA-based
companies have been shut down for the activities of their lead
suppliers.

MATT---

On 6/13/08, Dean Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yep it's funny how few people on this list realize that the usa's
  borders and laws stop 50 miles off the coast.

  It's also surprising how few Americans realize that a company
  incorporated internationally (Pakistan in this instance) even if owned
  as a subsidiary of a USA parent doesn't have to follow the laws of the
  USA but actually falls under the jurisdiction of the laws they are
  incorporated under.

  I'm not saying this is good or bad, 'm just saying that as 'asterisk'
  people we should be smart enough to play the laws that suit us to our
  advantage, if you think that the Global 1000 companies don't then you
  are kidding yourself.

  Besides we have the advantage in that almost everything we do can be
  virtual in most instances.


  Cheers,

 Dean



  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve
  Totaro
  Sent: Friday, 13 June 2008 7:06 AM
  To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
  Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] World Cheapest Predictive Dialer!

  My guess is that they are outside of the FTC's jurisdiction.

  Thanks,
  Steve T

  On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 6:15 AM, Matt Florell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:



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[asterisk-users] 'Together Everywhere'

2008-06-17 Thread Dean Collins
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25119259/

 

Anyone know if this was built using Asterisk? Seems like a perfect
vehicle for it's deployment.

 

Regards,

Dean Collins
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Re: [asterisk-users] Using Asterisk Only as Voice RecordingSolution.

2008-06-17 Thread Gavin Henry
2008/6/16 Syed Nasruddin [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


 Thanks for the link. I think I will be using this product.

It's very, very good. You can hook it up to MySQL instead of sqlite if
needed, just e-mail support.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Please Advice on Best High traffic fxo gateway/cards

2008-06-17 Thread Brent Davidson
And there are people like me who still can't get PRI's for less than 
$1100/month.  (Granted, I doubt I'll ever need a pri for the business I 
am with now, but I was with an ISP for a long time that still supported 
dial-up and we had 8 PRI's with a bulk discount that got them for us at 
$1000/PRI/month. ($8000/month total).  Analog lines with incoming 
service only were priced at roughly $15/month.



Steve Totaro wrote:
 Some customers are locked into two year contracts.

 That was the answer I got when adding four POTS lines to a system with
 four BRIs...

 Thanks,
 Steve Totaro

 On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 1:39 PM, James Mutuku [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Michael,

 I agree. Here we use e1s(which have even more channels). Some clients
 just don't want to change some if their old infrastructure.

 Thanks

 Michael Graves wrote:
 
 I just hafta ask, why does one face down a requirement for 48 FXOs?

 Would it not be more practical to have 2 T-1s dropped into the
 location?

 Michael

 On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 17:35:35 -0400, Steve Totaro wrote:


   
 Adit 600 48 FXO.

 On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 12:11 PM, James Mutuku [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Steve,
Thanks for the responses. I am talking of 45 POTS
 Thanks

 Steve Totaro wrote:

 Sorry,

 Quantify High Traffic

 How many POTS lines are we talking about?

 Thanks,
 Steve Totaro

 On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 10:47 AM, Steve Totaro
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I use Adtran or Adit, I think Rhino has a pretty low priced one but I
 have never used so cannot comment.  I can tell you that the Adtran or
 Adit is rock solid.

 Thanks,
 Steve Totaro

 On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 10:43 AM, James Mutuku [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Please advice on  channel bank
 Steve Totaro wrote:


 I would suggest a channel bank populated with FXO cards muxing to a T1.

 Thanks,
 Steve T

 On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 10:06 AM, James Mutuku [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 Hi,
   I need to get an fxo gateway/card for a high traffic asterisk
 installation. Please advice on which gateway/ fxo cards
 Thanks



   
   


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Re: [asterisk-users] Zapata/DAHDI Disable Hardware echo canceler based on SDA number / displan

2008-06-17 Thread Kevin P. Fleming
Johann Steinwendtner wrote:

 I thought the ec gets disabled only by the ec disable tone and not the CED 
 tone.

The CED tone *is* the echo canceler disable tone.

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Re: [asterisk-users] need ata suggestion

2008-06-17 Thread Steve Totaro
I like Grandstream 286s  No, seriously

Thanks,
Steve T

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 2:07 PM, Eric Fort [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Can the PAP2 be set up such that a second call will ring the second line
 when the first is busy but only register once with the SIP provider?  A beep
 tone on the same line to denote another incoming call just will not do, The
 second port needs to act like a seperate line tied to the same DID in a hunt
 group.

 Eric

 On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 3:52 AM, Rob Hillis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 IMO, yes - sort of.  :)  Since Linksys bought Sipura, you're probably
 looking at the Linksys PAP2 - the functional equivalent of the Sipura
 SPA-2000.  They look different (better if you ask me - the LEDs are far
 better placed and more useful than they were on the Sipura units) but
 are pretty much identical under the hood.


 randulo wrote:
  On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 7:37 AM, Gordon Henderson
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  But maybe an AVM Fritz! box will work for you too...
 
 
  Would anyone care to recommend a good quality, stable ATA these days
  for just a single cordless phone connected to one SIP provider. Sipura
  used to be well thought-of. Are they still the best?
 
  /r
 
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Re: [asterisk-users] 'Together Everywhere'

2008-06-17 Thread Cory Andrews
Dean

 

One of the firms involved, playareacode.comhas a division called Big
Games, and they used Asterisk as a platform to create an interactive
mystery game.
http://itp.nyu.edu/blogblender/2007/10/15/the-mystery-of-the-beautiful-c
igar-girl-location-plotting-and-ia/

 

I'd place my bets on asterisk being the telephony platform for the
promotion you described in your earlier post.

 

Cory J Andrews

Director, New Market Initiatives

 

VoIP Supply, LLC

 

454 Sonwil Drive

Buffalo, NY 14225

716-250-3402 OFFICE

716-630-1548 FAX

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Collins
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 2:54 PM
To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Subject: [asterisk-users] 'Together Everywhere'

 

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25119259/

 

Anyone know if this was built using Asterisk? Seems like a perfect
vehicle for it's deployment.

 

Regards,

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Re: [asterisk-users] 'Together Everywhere'

2008-06-17 Thread Cory Andrews
Here are some other interesting applications they built off Asterisk

 

http://itp.nyu.edu/blogblender/2007/11/15/voice-recognition-with-lumenvo
x/

 

http://www.prophecyboy.com/itp/redial/booty-dialer-update/

 

http://www.prophecyboy.com/category/itp/redial/

 

BootyDialerbestideaever

 

Cory J Andrews

Director, New Market Initiatives

 

VoIP Supply, LLC

 

454 Sonwil Drive

Buffalo, NY 14225

716-250-3402 OFFICE

716-630-1548 FAX

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cory
Andrews
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 3:33 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] 'Together Everywhere'

 

Dean

 

One of the firms involved, playareacode.comhas a division called Big
Games, and they used Asterisk as a platform to create an interactive
mystery game.
http://itp.nyu.edu/blogblender/2007/10/15/the-mystery-of-the-beautiful-c
igar-girl-location-plotting-and-ia/

 

I'd place my bets on asterisk being the telephony platform for the
promotion you described in your earlier post.

 

Cory J Andrews

Director, New Market Initiatives

 

VoIP Supply, LLC

 

454 Sonwil Drive

Buffalo, NY 14225

716-250-3402 OFFICE

716-630-1548 FAX

716-601-4474 MOBILE

[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean
Collins
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 2:54 PM
To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Subject: [asterisk-users] 'Together Everywhere'

 

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25119259/

 

Anyone know if this was built using Asterisk? Seems like a perfect
vehicle for it's deployment.

 

Regards,

Dean Collins
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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Re: [asterisk-users] OT: Re: OT How Digium Saved My Bacon!

2008-06-17 Thread randulo
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 1:48 PM, Andrew Kohlsmith (lists)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Most every pocket screwdriver that is sold as a promotional item is like that.
 It's not always good; I cut my hand pretty badly when the phillips end slid
 clean through the screwdriver and into my hand once.
Some Linux Day screwdriver set I got was totally worthless. The Digium
screwdriver really works. Plus it's more stable than asterisk 1.6.

Of course, as a friend of mine once said, (referring to love) when
it's dark outside that 25 watt bulb in the closet looks really bright,
but when the sun comes up, it ain't s**t!

IOW, having now arrived at destination and unpacked a few boxes, my
electric screwdriver outshines even the Digium tweaker. Still, it
was very handy when all the big gins were packed away.

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Re: [asterisk-users] need ata suggestion

2008-06-17 Thread Eric Fort
and being only a single line device how exactly would I get 2 lines out of
it?

Eric

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Steve Totaro 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I like Grandstream 286s  No, seriously

 Thanks,
 Steve T

 On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 2:07 PM, Eric Fort [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Can the PAP2 be set up such that a second call will ring the second line
  when the first is busy but only register once with the SIP provider?  A
 beep
  tone on the same line to denote another incoming call just will not do,
 The
  second port needs to act like a seperate line tied to the same DID in a
 hunt
  group.
 
  Eric
 
  On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 3:52 AM, Rob Hillis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  IMO, yes - sort of.  :)  Since Linksys bought Sipura, you're probably
  looking at the Linksys PAP2 - the functional equivalent of the Sipura
  SPA-2000.  They look different (better if you ask me - the LEDs are far
  better placed and more useful than they were on the Sipura units) but
  are pretty much identical under the hood.
 
 
  randulo wrote:
   On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 7:37 AM, Gordon Henderson
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   But maybe an AVM Fritz! box will work for you too...
  
  
   Would anyone care to recommend a good quality, stable ATA these days
   for just a single cordless phone connected to one SIP provider. Sipura
   used to be well thought-of. Are they still the best?
  
   /r
  
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Re: [asterisk-users] need ata suggestion

2008-06-17 Thread Steve Totaro
Buy two..

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Eric Fort [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 and being only a single line device how exactly would I get 2 lines out of
 it?

 Eric

 On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Steve Totaro
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I like Grandstream 286s  No, seriously

 Thanks,
 Steve T

 On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 2:07 PM, Eric Fort [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Can the PAP2 be set up such that a second call will ring the second line
  when the first is busy but only register once with the SIP provider?  A
  beep
  tone on the same line to denote another incoming call just will not do,
  The
  second port needs to act like a seperate line tied to the same DID in a
  hunt
  group.
 
  Eric
 
  On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 3:52 AM, Rob Hillis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
 
  IMO, yes - sort of.  :)  Since Linksys bought Sipura, you're probably
  looking at the Linksys PAP2 - the functional equivalent of the Sipura
  SPA-2000.  They look different (better if you ask me - the LEDs are far
  better placed and more useful than they were on the Sipura units) but
  are pretty much identical under the hood.
 
 
  randulo wrote:
   On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 7:37 AM, Gordon Henderson
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   But maybe an AVM Fritz! box will work for you too...
  
  
   Would anyone care to recommend a good quality, stable ATA these days
   for just a single cordless phone connected to one SIP provider.
   Sipura
   used to be well thought-of. Are they still the best?
  
   /r
  
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Re: [asterisk-users] OT: Re: OT How Digium Saved My Bacon!

2008-06-17 Thread Steve Totaro
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 3:46 PM, randulo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 1:48 PM, Andrew Kohlsmith (lists)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Most every pocket screwdriver that is sold as a promotional item is like 
 that.
 It's not always good; I cut my hand pretty badly when the phillips end slid
 clean through the screwdriver and into my hand once.
 Some Linux Day screwdriver set I got was totally worthless. The Digium
 screwdriver really works. Plus it's more stable than asterisk 1.6.

 Of course, as a friend of mine once said, (referring to love) when
 it's dark outside that 25 watt bulb in the closet looks really bright,
 but when the sun comes up, it ain't s**t!

 IOW, having now arrived at destination and unpacked a few boxes, my
 electric screwdriver outshines even the Digium tweaker. Still, it
 was very handy when all the big gins were packed away.


Digium is so bigtime they should be giving away re-branded (acid
etched so it doesn't rub off) leatherman tools to everyone who has
ever ordered from them ;-)

Thanks,
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Re: [asterisk-users] need ata suggestion

2008-06-17 Thread randulo
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Gordon Henderson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This might depends on your country (re. availability), but I've had a lot
 of good results with the Siemens DECT range... (eg. S450IP) The
 base-station has a built in ATA, so 2 sockets, one PSTN, one Ethernet...

No question, the Siemens DECT SIP phones are great, I do have one, the
S675IP, and I love it. I even wrote a (basic non tech) review of it
and here's a photo of the RSS screensaver  http://x2z.eu/h click on
photo if you want to read the review. I love this phone, biut iot's
too expensive for the other location where I just want a SIP ATA to
connect to an existing cordless. I will take a look at the Linksys
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Re: [asterisk-users] OT How Digium Saved My Bacon!

2008-06-17 Thread randulo
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 9:03 AM, Steve Totaro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It seems you get these goodies at Astricon events.

 Thanks,
 Steve T

Digium also gives away the best mouse pad ever and I've gotten dozens
of these from every trade show. Theirs is the only one my wife and i
fight over for custody.

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Re: [asterisk-users] need ata suggestion

2008-06-17 Thread Steve Totaro
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 3:51 PM, randulo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Gordon Henderson
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This might depends on your country (re. availability), but I've had a lot
 of good results with the Siemens DECT range... (eg. S450IP) The
 base-station has a built in ATA, so 2 sockets, one PSTN, one Ethernet...

 No question, the Siemens DECT SIP phones are great, I do have one, the
 S675IP, and I love it. I even wrote a (basic non tech) review of it
 and here's a photo of the RSS screensaver  http://x2z.eu/h click on
 photo if you want to read the review. I love this phone, biut iot's
 too expensive for the other location where I just want a SIP ATA to
 connect to an existing cordless. I will take a look at the Linksys
 though, sounds interesting.


DECT can make you and others around you feel very ill.  No long term
research exists but if immediate effects are feeling ill, it may
possibly lead to long term effects.

I know a consultant that could barely finish a DECT install because
his head hurt so badly.

http://www.healthy-house.co.uk/news/2008/01/14/Have-you-or-your-neighbours-got-a-DECT-phone---Benefit-from-our-special-offer-and-test-your-home.php

Maybe not the best source to quote but I trust anyone interested can
google further.

Thanks,
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Re: [asterisk-users] need ata suggestion

2008-06-17 Thread Fred Posner
They're real cheap where you could get 2 of them. I got one and  
actually have no complaints. Call quality was really good and it's  
very, very small and portable. Looks cheap, but you get over that. I  
have a SPA2102 2 liner which works fine but gets really hot.



Fred Posner
www.teamforrest.com

FWD#: 902963




On Jun 17, 2008, at 3:46 PM, Eric Fort wrote:

and being only a single line device how exactly would I get 2 lines  
out of it?


Eric

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Steve Totaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:

I like Grandstream 286s  No, seriously

Thanks,
Steve T

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 2:07 PM, Eric Fort [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:
 Can the PAP2 be set up such that a second call will ring the  
second line
 when the first is busy but only register once with the SIP  
provider?  A beep
 tone on the same line to denote another incoming call just will  
not do, The
 second port needs to act like a seperate line tied to the same DID  
in a hunt

 group.

 Eric

 On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 3:52 AM, Rob Hillis  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 IMO, yes - sort of.  :)  Since Linksys bought Sipura, you're  
probably
 looking at the Linksys PAP2 - the functional equivalent of the  
Sipura
 SPA-2000.  They look different (better if you ask me - the LEDs  
are far
 better placed and more useful than they were on the Sipura units)  
but

 are pretty much identical under the hood.


 randulo wrote:
  On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 7:37 AM, Gordon Henderson
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  But maybe an AVM Fritz! box will work for you too...
 
 
  Would anyone care to recommend a good quality, stable ATA these  
days
  for just a single cordless phone connected to one SIP provider.  
Sipura

  used to be well thought-of. Are they still the best?
 
  /r
 
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Re: [asterisk-users] need ata suggestion

2008-06-17 Thread Eric Fort
How do 2 of them register only once?

-Eric

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Steve Totaro 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Buy two..

 On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Eric Fort [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  and being only a single line device how exactly would I get 2 lines out
 of
  it?
 
  Eric
 
  On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Steve Totaro
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I like Grandstream 286s  No, seriously
 
  Thanks,
  Steve T
 
  On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 2:07 PM, Eric Fort [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Can the PAP2 be set up such that a second call will ring the second
 line
   when the first is busy but only register once with the SIP provider?
  A
   beep
   tone on the same line to denote another incoming call just will not
 do,
   The
   second port needs to act like a seperate line tied to the same DID in
 a
   hunt
   group.
  
   Eric
  
   On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 3:52 AM, Rob Hillis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   wrote:
  
   IMO, yes - sort of.  :)  Since Linksys bought Sipura, you're probably
   looking at the Linksys PAP2 - the functional equivalent of the Sipura
   SPA-2000.  They look different (better if you ask me - the LEDs are
 far
   better placed and more useful than they were on the Sipura units) but
   are pretty much identical under the hood.
  
  
   randulo wrote:
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 7:37 AM, Gordon Henderson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
But maybe an AVM Fritz! box will work for you too...
   
   
Would anyone care to recommend a good quality, stable ATA these
 days
for just a single cordless phone connected to one SIP provider.
Sipura
used to be well thought-of. Are they still the best?
   
/r
   
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Re: [asterisk-users] OT How Digium Saved My Bacon!

2008-06-17 Thread Steve Totaro
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 3:53 PM, randulo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 9:03 AM, Steve Totaro
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It seems you get these goodies at Astricon events.

 Thanks,
 Steve T

 Digium also gives away the best mouse pad ever and I've gotten dozens
 of these from every trade show. Theirs is the only one my wife and i
 fight over for custody.


I have a You're Fired! mousepad  from the Donald.

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Re: [asterisk-users] need ata suggestion

2008-06-17 Thread randulo
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 9:56 PM, Steve Totaro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 DECT can make you and others around you feel very ill.  No long term
 research exists but if immediate effects are feeling ill, it may
 possibly lead to long term effects.

That may or may not be true, but if we go down that road, then I know
people who claim being anywhere within blocks of a cellphone tower or
in a building with wifi has ruined their lives. There is a movement (I
think in the UK) to remove and disallow wifi on all universuty
premises because a few people have said they are electrosensitive. If
this is anything like peanut allergies, it's no joke for those
afflicted, but before I rip out our DECT phone, I'll need to find a
compelling reason.

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Re: [asterisk-users] OT: Re: OT How Digium Saved My Bacon!

2008-06-17 Thread randulo
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 9:51 PM, Steve Totaro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Digium is so bigtime they should be giving away re-branded (acid
 etched so it doesn't rub off) leatherman tools to everyone who has
 ever ordered from them ;-)

You get those for every order of 10 or more ABE!

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Re: [asterisk-users] need ata suggestion

2008-06-17 Thread Steve Totaro
I use them for analog Polycom Soundstation EXes and other analog
conference phones.  Great quality and that is in boardrooms where
complaints would fly if there was even one little issue.

I generally don't mess with Grandstream but the ATAs aren't bad.

Thanks,
Steve T

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 3:59 PM, Fred Posner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 They're real cheap where you could get 2 of them. I got one and actually
 have no complaints. Call quality was really good and it's very, very small
 and portable. Looks cheap, but you get over that. I have a SPA2102 2 liner
 which works fine but gets really hot.


 Fred Posner
 www.teamforrest.com
 FWD#: 902963



 On Jun 17, 2008, at 3:46 PM, Eric Fort wrote:

 and being only a single line device how exactly would I get 2 lines out of
 it?

 Eric

 On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Steve Totaro
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I like Grandstream 286s  No, seriously

 Thanks,
 Steve T

 On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 2:07 PM, Eric Fort [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Can the PAP2 be set up such that a second call will ring the second line
  when the first is busy but only register once with the SIP provider?  A
  beep
  tone on the same line to denote another incoming call just will not do,
  The
  second port needs to act like a seperate line tied to the same DID in a
  hunt
  group.
 
  Eric
 
  On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 3:52 AM, Rob Hillis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
 
  IMO, yes - sort of.  :)  Since Linksys bought Sipura, you're probably
  looking at the Linksys PAP2 - the functional equivalent of the Sipura
  SPA-2000.  They look different (better if you ask me - the LEDs are far
  better placed and more useful than they were on the Sipura units) but
  are pretty much identical under the hood.
 
 
  randulo wrote:
   On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 7:37 AM, Gordon Henderson
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   But maybe an AVM Fritz! box will work for you too...
  
  
   Would anyone care to recommend a good quality, stable ATA these days
   for just a single cordless phone connected to one SIP provider.
   Sipura
   used to be well thought-of. Are they still the best?
  
   /r
  
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Re: [asterisk-users] need ata suggestion

2008-06-17 Thread Steve Totaro
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 4:06 PM, randulo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 9:56 PM, Steve Totaro
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 DECT can make you and others around you feel very ill.  No long term
 research exists but if immediate effects are feeling ill, it may
 possibly lead to long term effects.

 That may or may not be true, but if we go down that road, then I know
 people who claim being anywhere within blocks of a cellphone tower or
 in a building with wifi has ruined their lives. There is a movement (I
 think in the UK) to remove and disallow wifi on all universuty
 premises because a few people have said they are electrosensitive. If
 this is anything like peanut allergies, it's no joke for those
 afflicted, but before I rip out our DECT phone, I'll need to find a
 compelling reason.


A compelling reason to me would be if someone near me felt ill, I
switched off the DECT (quietly) and then they felt better, then
switched it back on and see if they complain again, if not I would ask
How are you feeling?  If ill, that would be compelling enough to me.
 Maybe repeat a few times for consistency.

No complaints, then no problem

Thanks,
Steve T

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[asterisk-users] suggestions for IAX ATA device or phone in US

2008-06-17 Thread Al lists
anyone has used or bough one?
would appreciate comments.
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Re: [asterisk-users] World Cheapest Predictive Dialer!

2008-06-17 Thread Matt Florell
Hello,

If you have a PRI-T1 in the USA, then you can set outgoing CallerID
with just about any carrier.

MATT---

On 6/17/08, Mark Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 How can they even set such 1234567890 callerIDs anyway?
  For example, our inter/intra state calling depends a lot on the callerIDs.


  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Florell
  Sent: June 13, 2008 8:20 AM
  To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
  Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] World Cheapest Predictive Dialer!

  Hello,

  I am not suggesting that the USA's laws exist outside of the USA, I
  can imagine the horrible problems that would cause in the rest of
  world. I wanted to point out that if you are using this service and
  doing business in the USA that you could face penalties for not
  following the law. According to the FTC, both companies(the scrubber
  and the client) are guilty of breaking the laws of the USA.

  If you are calling the USA and need to use this company's FTC DNC list
  filtering services then you may have USA-based operations of some
  kind. In such cases it is important to note that companies have been
  fined millions of dollars and have been shut down in the USA for
  violating these regulations.

  I am well aware of the fact that companies based outside of the USA
  routinely call-blast the USA with auto-dialers that send out callerIDs
  such as 1234567890 and do no filtering against the USA FTC DNC lists.
  A large portion of these companies are doing lead-generation for
  USA-based companies, and over the years a lot of those USA-based
  companies have been shut down for the activities of their lead
  suppliers.

  MATT---

  On 6/13/08, Dean Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Yep it's funny how few people on this list realize that the usa's
borders and laws stop 50 miles off the coast.
  
It's also surprising how few Americans realize that a company
incorporated internationally (Pakistan in this instance) even if owned
as a subsidiary of a USA parent doesn't have to follow the laws of the
USA but actually falls under the jurisdiction of the laws they are
incorporated under.
  
I'm not saying this is good or bad, 'm just saying that as 'asterisk'
people we should be smart enough to play the laws that suit us to our
advantage, if you think that the Global 1000 companies don't then you
are kidding yourself.
  
Besides we have the advantage in that almost everything we do can be
virtual in most instances.
  
  
Cheers,
  
   Dean
  
  
  
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve
Totaro
Sent: Friday, 13 June 2008 7:06 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] World Cheapest Predictive Dialer!
  
My guess is that they are outside of the FTC's jurisdiction.
  
Thanks,
Steve T
  
On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 6:15 AM, Matt Florell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
  
  
  
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Re: [asterisk-users] World Cheapest Predictive Dialer!

2008-06-17 Thread Steve Totaro
I can set to anything on my Qwest circuit.  All zeros or whatever,
just has to be ten digits.  I have seen some that will send less than
ten like a four digit extension number on a misconfigured system.

Thanks,
Steve T

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Matt Florell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,

 If you have a PRI-T1 in the USA, then you can set outgoing CallerID
 with just about any carrier.

 MATT---

 On 6/17/08, Mark Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 How can they even set such 1234567890 callerIDs anyway?
  For example, our inter/intra state calling depends a lot on the callerIDs.


  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Florell
  Sent: June 13, 2008 8:20 AM
  To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
  Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] World Cheapest Predictive Dialer!

  Hello,

  I am not suggesting that the USA's laws exist outside of the USA, I
  can imagine the horrible problems that would cause in the rest of
  world. I wanted to point out that if you are using this service and
  doing business in the USA that you could face penalties for not
  following the law. According to the FTC, both companies(the scrubber
  and the client) are guilty of breaking the laws of the USA.

  If you are calling the USA and need to use this company's FTC DNC list
  filtering services then you may have USA-based operations of some
  kind. In such cases it is important to note that companies have been
  fined millions of dollars and have been shut down in the USA for
  violating these regulations.

  I am well aware of the fact that companies based outside of the USA
  routinely call-blast the USA with auto-dialers that send out callerIDs
  such as 1234567890 and do no filtering against the USA FTC DNC lists.
  A large portion of these companies are doing lead-generation for
  USA-based companies, and over the years a lot of those USA-based
  companies have been shut down for the activities of their lead
  suppliers.

  MATT---

  On 6/13/08, Dean Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Yep it's funny how few people on this list realize that the usa's
borders and laws stop 50 miles off the coast.
  
It's also surprising how few Americans realize that a company
incorporated internationally (Pakistan in this instance) even if owned
as a subsidiary of a USA parent doesn't have to follow the laws of the
USA but actually falls under the jurisdiction of the laws they are
incorporated under.
  
I'm not saying this is good or bad, 'm just saying that as 'asterisk'
people we should be smart enough to play the laws that suit us to our
advantage, if you think that the Global 1000 companies don't then you
are kidding yourself.
  
Besides we have the advantage in that almost everything we do can be
virtual in most instances.
  
  
Cheers,
  
   Dean
  
  
  
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve
Totaro
Sent: Friday, 13 June 2008 7:06 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] World Cheapest Predictive Dialer!
  
My guess is that they are outside of the FTC's jurisdiction.
  
Thanks,
Steve T
  
On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 6:15 AM, Matt Florell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

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Re: [asterisk-users] World Cheapest Predictive Dialer!

2008-06-17 Thread C F
My questions was to the fact that JRA mentioned he knows at least 3
owners. to which I asked if it was LLCs or other type of
corporations, since LLCs have different rules. What I mentioned about
it being illegal is for non LLC type of corporations, but for most of
the other types of corporations, while it's possible that it is
illegal for LLCs as well in some states I could understand that the
rules could be relaxed for LLCs as well. As far as the IRS goes i'm
quite positive that it's illegal for tax purposes, in other words it
cannot be counted as a business expense.
The way I understand this:
http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/article/0,,id=146835,00.html
towards the bottom of the page, it cannot always be used as a business
expense. Correct me if I'm wrong.

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 12:21 PM, Steve Totaro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You are probably confusing corporate tactics to pay less taxes vs
 corporate tactics to protect assets.  The first does provide some
 asset protection but is mainly to pay less taxes.  The second is to
 basically hide assets through totally legal LLCs.

 Thanks,
 Steve Totaro

 On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 12:00 PM, C F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 LLCs?

 On 6/16/08, Jay R. Ashworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 11:13:31PM -0400, C F wrote:
   Happens in the commercial world all the time; it's a common way to get
   cash out of the corporation -- a business's building is owned by the
   corporation's owners, and rented to the corporation.
 
  This is actually illegal in some states and considered a breach of
  Fiduciary everywhere.

 May be, but I know at least 3 owners of private corporations who are
 doing it, and their auditors seem fine with it.  I think that it
 matters whether the corporation is public or not...

 Cheers,
 -- jra
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Re: [asterisk-users] Zapata/DAHDI Disable Hardware echo canceler based on SDA number / displan

2008-06-17 Thread benoit plessis
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 10:56:06AM -0500, Kevin P. Fleming wrote:
 Benoit Plessis wrote:
  Is it possible on a TE220p to deactivate the hardware echo canceler at 
  will ? (With a function in the dialpan for example)
  example for fax SDA ,beeing able to shutdown the echo canceler could 
  give better results don't you think ?
 
 All echo cancelers using Zaptel/DAHDI already disable themselves when
 FAX or modem communications are used, based on reception and detection
 of the CED tone that FAX machines and modems generate to make that
 happen. You can tell this happened by looking at the channel in Asterisk
 using 'zap show channel' or 'dahdi show channel' as it will show you
 that the echo canceler was disabled automatically.
 

Karamba !

It mean than that my last option is to put all three digium cards in one box 
and hope,
that it'll fit and that it'll work better :(

(actually i'm using one server with two cards (TE220, B410) which is linked 
with an (slinear)
IAX peer to another server with one TDM800 to talk to the fax machine.

-- 
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Re: [asterisk-users] World Cheapest Predictive Dialer!

2008-06-17 Thread Mark Hamilton
Yeah, but what do you get billed as? I understand if your callerID and the
called party is from within a state, it's interstate routing. If between
states, then it's intrastate, etc

The billing depends on the callerID you send.
So, if you send a 000-000- clid to a 917 area code, what would the call
be routed/billed as?


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Totaro
Sent: June 17, 2008 4:55 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] World Cheapest Predictive Dialer!

I can set to anything on my Qwest circuit.  All zeros or whatever,
just has to be ten digits.  I have seen some that will send less than
ten like a four digit extension number on a misconfigured system.

Thanks,
Steve T

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Matt Florell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,

 If you have a PRI-T1 in the USA, then you can set outgoing CallerID
 with just about any carrier.

 MATT---

 On 6/17/08, Mark Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 How can they even set such 1234567890 callerIDs anyway?
  For example, our inter/intra state calling depends a lot on the
callerIDs.


  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
Florell
  Sent: June 13, 2008 8:20 AM
  To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
  Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] World Cheapest Predictive Dialer!

  Hello,

  I am not suggesting that the USA's laws exist outside of the USA, I
  can imagine the horrible problems that would cause in the rest of
  world. I wanted to point out that if you are using this service and
  doing business in the USA that you could face penalties for not
  following the law. According to the FTC, both companies(the scrubber
  and the client) are guilty of breaking the laws of the USA.

  If you are calling the USA and need to use this company's FTC DNC list
  filtering services then you may have USA-based operations of some
  kind. In such cases it is important to note that companies have been
  fined millions of dollars and have been shut down in the USA for
  violating these regulations.

  I am well aware of the fact that companies based outside of the USA
  routinely call-blast the USA with auto-dialers that send out callerIDs
  such as 1234567890 and do no filtering against the USA FTC DNC lists.
  A large portion of these companies are doing lead-generation for
  USA-based companies, and over the years a lot of those USA-based
  companies have been shut down for the activities of their lead
  suppliers.

  MATT---

  On 6/13/08, Dean Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Yep it's funny how few people on this list realize that the usa's
borders and laws stop 50 miles off the coast.
  
It's also surprising how few Americans realize that a company
incorporated internationally (Pakistan in this instance) even if
owned
as a subsidiary of a USA parent doesn't have to follow the laws of
the
USA but actually falls under the jurisdiction of the laws they are
incorporated under.
  
I'm not saying this is good or bad, 'm just saying that as 'asterisk'
people we should be smart enough to play the laws that suit us to our
advantage, if you think that the Global 1000 companies don't then you
are kidding yourself.
  
Besides we have the advantage in that almost everything we do can be
virtual in most instances.
  
  
Cheers,
  
   Dean
  
  
  
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve
Totaro
Sent: Friday, 13 June 2008 7:06 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] World Cheapest Predictive Dialer!
  
My guess is that they are outside of the FTC's jurisdiction.
  
Thanks,
Steve T
  
On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 6:15 AM, Matt Florell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

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Re: [asterisk-users] World Cheapest Predictive Dialer!

2008-06-17 Thread C F
If it shows up as the BTN on the CDRs then technically you should be
billed at the highest possible tariff. Whether your provider will do
that or not depends what they are charged. In general the provider/s
shouldn't use CID as the BTN and therefore you shouldn't be over or
under charged. Even in cases where the CID is actually passed along as
the BTN, the provider should still keep track of you by circuit ID
rather than CID, however when they have to pay their tariffs I am
assuming they will be charged based on BTN which they based on CID
that you set, which will in turn make them lose money IF they are
charged at highest possible tariff.

In conclusion, I don't know what you are charged because I haven't
seen your bills. I don't know if the providers actually have the
capabilities to do BTN different than CID (I am assuming they could),
and if they do have the capablity they should actually make sure that
the BTN is always set to what it is and not CID. If they don't they
should pass on any high tariffs resulting from that to you.


On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 5:30 PM, Mark Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yeah, but what do you get billed as? I understand if your callerID and the
 called party is from within a state, it's interstate routing. If between
 states, then it's intrastate, etc

 The billing depends on the callerID you send.
 So, if you send a 000-000- clid to a 917 area code, what would the call
 be routed/billed as?


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Totaro
 Sent: June 17, 2008 4:55 PM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] World Cheapest Predictive Dialer!

 I can set to anything on my Qwest circuit.  All zeros or whatever,
 just has to be ten digits.  I have seen some that will send less than
 ten like a four digit extension number on a misconfigured system.

 Thanks,
 Steve T

 On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Matt Florell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,

 If you have a PRI-T1 in the USA, then you can set outgoing CallerID
 with just about any carrier.

 MATT---

 On 6/17/08, Mark Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 How can they even set such 1234567890 callerIDs anyway?
  For example, our inter/intra state calling depends a lot on the
 callerIDs.


  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
 Florell
  Sent: June 13, 2008 8:20 AM
  To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
  Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] World Cheapest Predictive Dialer!

  Hello,

  I am not suggesting that the USA's laws exist outside of the USA, I
  can imagine the horrible problems that would cause in the rest of
  world. I wanted to point out that if you are using this service and
  doing business in the USA that you could face penalties for not
  following the law. According to the FTC, both companies(the scrubber
  and the client) are guilty of breaking the laws of the USA.

  If you are calling the USA and need to use this company's FTC DNC list
  filtering services then you may have USA-based operations of some
  kind. In such cases it is important to note that companies have been
  fined millions of dollars and have been shut down in the USA for
  violating these regulations.

  I am well aware of the fact that companies based outside of the USA
  routinely call-blast the USA with auto-dialers that send out callerIDs
  such as 1234567890 and do no filtering against the USA FTC DNC lists.
  A large portion of these companies are doing lead-generation for
  USA-based companies, and over the years a lot of those USA-based
  companies have been shut down for the activities of their lead
  suppliers.

  MATT---

  On 6/13/08, Dean Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Yep it's funny how few people on this list realize that the usa's
borders and laws stop 50 miles off the coast.
  
It's also surprising how few Americans realize that a company
incorporated internationally (Pakistan in this instance) even if
 owned
as a subsidiary of a USA parent doesn't have to follow the laws of
 the
USA but actually falls under the jurisdiction of the laws they are
incorporated under.
  
I'm not saying this is good or bad, 'm just saying that as 'asterisk'
people we should be smart enough to play the laws that suit us to our
advantage, if you think that the Global 1000 companies don't then you
are kidding yourself.
  
Besides we have the advantage in that almost everything we do can be
virtual in most instances.
  
  
Cheers,
  
   Dean
  
  
  
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve
Totaro
Sent: Friday, 13 June 2008 7:06 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] World Cheapest Predictive Dialer!
  
My guess is that they are outside of the FTC's 

[asterisk-users] GXW 4108 asterisk configuration

2008-06-17 Thread Nelson Granados

Dear,

I'm having problems with the configuration of this gateway(GrandStream GXW
4108), I used the instructions from GrandStream but it doesn't work. Someone
has a good configuration for this gateway?


Thanks in advance,


Nelson 

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[asterisk-users] Zaptel 1.4.10.1 and OSLEC on Ubuntu 8.04

2008-06-17 Thread Guillermo Salas M.
Hi,

I'm installing zaptel-source_1.4.10.1~dfsg-1_all.deb (from Debian SID)
into my ubuntu 8.04 box with:

dpkg -i zaptel-source_1.4.10.1~dfsg-1_all.deb
ECHO_CAN_NAME=OSLEC m-a -t a-i zaptel

Loading the wcfxo module and/or zaptel:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# modprobe wcfxo 
WARNING: Error inserting zaptel
(/lib/modules/2.6.24-16-server/misc/zaptel.ko): Unknown symbol in
module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
FATAL: Error inserting wcfxo
(/lib/modules/2.6.24-16-server/misc/wcfxo.ko): Unknown symbol in module,
or unknown parameter (see dmesg)

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# modprobe zaptel
FATAL: Error inserting zaptel
(/lib/modules/2.6.24-16-server/misc/zaptel.ko): Unknown symbol in
module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)

When the build is finished and the box restarted, I'm getting this
dmesg output:

[   46.160498] zaptel: Unknown symbol oslec_echo_can_identify
[   46.180909] ztdummy: Unknown symbol zt_receive
[   46.181054] ztdummy: Unknown symbol zt_transmit
[   46.181126] ztdummy: Unknown symbol zt_unregister
[   46.181221] ztdummy: Unknown symbol zt_register
[  830.118287] zaptel: Unknown symbol oslec_echo_can_identify
[  830.122738] wcfxo: Unknown symbol zt_receive
[  830.122890] wcfxo: Unknown symbol zt_ec_chunk
[  830.123037] wcfxo: Unknown symbol zt_transmit
[  830.123112] wcfxo: Unknown symbol zt_unregister
[  830.123212] wcfxo: Unknown symbol zt_hooksig
[  830.123301] wcfxo: Unknown symbol zt_register
[  830.123377] wcfxo: Unknown symbol zt_alarm_notify
[  858.887084] zaptel: Unknown symbol oslec_echo_can_identify
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# 


This is the modinfo output:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# modinfo zaptel
filename:   /lib/modules/2.6.24-16-server/misc/zaptel.ko
version:1.4.10.1
license:GPL
description:Zapata Telephony Interface
author: Mark Spencer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
srcversion: 927BA7DCB504C0BA7C0CDED
depends:oslec,crc-ccitt
vermagic:   2.6.24-16-server SMP mod_unload 686 
parm:   debug:int
parm:   deftaps:int


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# modinfo wcfxo
filename:   /lib/modules/2.6.24-16-server/misc/wcfxo.ko
license:GPL
author: Mark Spencer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
description:Wildcard X100P Zaptel Driver
srcversion: 194D48A51D46F480234E26A
alias:  pci:v1057d5608sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:vE159d0001sv8087sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:vE159d0001sv8086sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:vE159d0001sv8085sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:vE159d0001sv8084sd*bc*sc*i*
depends:zaptel
vermagic:   2.6.24-16-server SMP mod_unload 686 
parm:   debug:int
parm:   quiet:int
parm:   boost:int
parm:   monitor:int
parm:   opermode:int


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# modinfo oslec
filename:   /lib/modules/2.6.24-16-server/oslec.ko
description:Open Source Line Echo Canceller Zaptel Wrapper
author: David Rowe
license:GPL
srcversion: 9C9E87427F162644A61A1CB
depends:
vermagic:   2.6.24-16-server SMP mod_unload 686 


I've the same trouble installing from sources and patching the zaptel
sources with oslec. I've installed before on debian sarge/etch and
ubuntu 7.10 without problems.

What can be wrong?


Best regards,

-- 
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Telconet S.A.
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Telefono : +593 5 262 8071
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Re: [asterisk-users] Zaptel 1.4.10.1 and OSLEC on Ubuntu 8.04

2008-06-17 Thread Ade Vickers
Guillermo Salas M. wrote:

 [  830.118287] zaptel: Unknown symbol oslec_echo_can_identify 

Make sure you get the latest version of OSLEC from SVN - the downloadable
tarball has a bug in it which prevents it from compiling properly (although
it acts like it worked just fine); which then prevents zaptel from loading.

If it all still fails, try going back to a slightly earlier version of
Zaptel (1.4.9.2).

Basically, follow the instructions here:
http://www.rowetel.com/ucasterisk/oslec.html

(the  HowTo - Run OSLEC with Asterisk/Zaptel section)

HTH!

Cheers,
Ade.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Zaptel 1.4.10.1 and OSLEC on Ubuntu 8.04

2008-06-17 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
Hi,

See comments in-line

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 04:56:53PM -0500, Guillermo Salas M. wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm installing zaptel-source_1.4.10.1~dfsg-1_all.deb (from Debian SID)
 into my ubuntu 8.04 box with:
 
 dpkg -i zaptel-source_1.4.10.1~dfsg-1_all.deb
 ECHO_CAN_NAME=OSLEC m-a -t a-i zaptel

Actually if you look at the changelog entry for that version you'll see:

'* Set OSLEC as the default echo canceller.'

The default build is now with OSLEC.

 
 Loading the wcfxo module and/or zaptel:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# modprobe wcfxo 
 WARNING: Error inserting zaptel
 (/lib/modules/2.6.24-16-server/misc/zaptel.ko): Unknown symbol in
 module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
 FATAL: Error inserting wcfxo
 (/lib/modules/2.6.24-16-server/misc/wcfxo.ko): Unknown symbol in module,
 or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# modprobe zaptel
 FATAL: Error inserting zaptel
 (/lib/modules/2.6.24-16-server/misc/zaptel.ko): Unknown symbol in
 module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
 
 When the build is finished and the box restarted, I'm getting this
 dmesg output:
 
 [   46.160498] zaptel: Unknown symbol oslec_echo_can_identify
 [   46.180909] ztdummy: Unknown symbol zt_receive
 [   46.181054] ztdummy: Unknown symbol zt_transmit
 [   46.181126] ztdummy: Unknown symbol zt_unregister
 [   46.181221] ztdummy: Unknown symbol zt_register

That's odd. zaptel should depend on oslec and pull it on modprobe.



 [  830.118287] zaptel: Unknown symbol oslec_echo_can_identify
 [  830.122738] wcfxo: Unknown symbol zt_receive
 [  830.122890] wcfxo: Unknown symbol zt_ec_chunk
 [  830.123037] wcfxo: Unknown symbol zt_transmit
 [  830.123112] wcfxo: Unknown symbol zt_unregister
 [  830.123212] wcfxo: Unknown symbol zt_hooksig
 [  830.123301] wcfxo: Unknown symbol zt_register
 [  830.123377] wcfxo: Unknown symbol zt_alarm_notify
 [  858.887084] zaptel: Unknown symbol oslec_echo_can_identify
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# 
 
 
 This is the modinfo output:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# modinfo zaptel
 filename:   /lib/modules/2.6.24-16-server/misc/zaptel.ko
 version:1.4.10.1
 license:GPL
 description:Zapata Telephony Interface
 author: Mark Spencer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 srcversion: 927BA7DCB504C0BA7C0CDED
 depends:oslec,crc-ccitt

zaptel does depend on oslec...

So what can it be?

 vermagic:   2.6.24-16-server SMP mod_unload 686 
 parm:   debug:int
 parm:   deftaps:int
 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# modinfo wcfxo
 filename:   /lib/modules/2.6.24-16-server/misc/wcfxo.ko
 license:GPL
 author: Mark Spencer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 description:Wildcard X100P Zaptel Driver
 srcversion: 194D48A51D46F480234E26A
 alias:  pci:v1057d5608sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
 alias:  pci:vE159d0001sv8087sd*bc*sc*i*
 alias:  pci:vE159d0001sv8086sd*bc*sc*i*
 alias:  pci:vE159d0001sv8085sd*bc*sc*i*
 alias:  pci:vE159d0001sv8084sd*bc*sc*i*
 depends:zaptel
 vermagic:   2.6.24-16-server SMP mod_unload 686 
 parm:   debug:int
 parm:   quiet:int
 parm:   boost:int
 parm:   monitor:int
 parm:   opermode:int
 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# modinfo oslec
 filename:   /lib/modules/2.6.24-16-server/oslec.ko
 description:Open Source Line Echo Canceller Zaptel Wrapper
 author: David Rowe
 license:GPL
 srcversion: 9C9E87427F162644A61A1CB
 depends:
 vermagic:   2.6.24-16-server SMP mod_unload 686 

That's a strange place. Is there
/lib/modules/2.6.24-16-server/misc/oslec/oslec.ko ?

  find /lib/modules/2.6.24-16-server/ -name oslec.ko

I suspect there's an older and incompatible copy of oslec.ko around.

 
 
 I've the same trouble installing from sources and patching the zaptel
 sources with oslec. I've installed before on debian sarge/etch and
 ubuntu 7.10 without problems.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Call Center

2008-06-17 Thread Sherwood McGowan
Syed Nasruddin wrote:
 Dear Sherwood,

 Thanks.

 Just three questions:

 1. Will I be needing Apache or Asterk-stat will handle itself?
 2. Are there How-tos for integerating asterisk-stat with asterisk?
 3. My Recordings are being saved in the default folder i.e:
 /var/spool/asterisk/monitor/  in .gsm format. When I wish to listen to a
 particular recording I first convert it with SOX utility into .wav
 format and then listen it. Will this also be automated so that when I
 select a recording and try to listen it will be in right format.

 Thanks again.

 Syed Nasruddin 
   
Apache/PHP and the appropriate database plugin will be needed :)
Asterisk-Stat comes with installation information
Yes, but only if you modify the Asterisk-Stat's pages as I have done, by 
creating a listen/download link in the system and having it link to 
the recording in question. You can also make the link call a shell 
script that transcodes the file before offering it up.

-- 
Sherwood McGowan
VoIP / Telecom Solutions
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Re: [asterisk-users] Anyone have pricing on the Color Polycom Phone?

2008-06-17 Thread Matt Darnell
IP670 was just released...about 30% more than the IP650.

http://polycom.com/usa/en/products/voice/desktop/soundpoint_ip/soundpoint_ip670.html

-Matt

On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 1:02 AM, Patrick
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, 2008-04-28 at 14:49 -1000, Matt Darnell wrote:
 Anyone seen anything on the IP670  the Color Expansion?

 Great timing. Yesterday I was looking at the IP650 and wondered when the
 successor to the IP650 would arrive. Do you have a link or more info
 about the IP670?

 Thanks,
 Patrick


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Re: [asterisk-users] Zaptel 1.4.10.1 and OSLEC on Ubuntu 8.04

2008-06-17 Thread Guillermo Salas M.
El mié, 18-06-2008 a las 01:37 +0300, Tzafrir Cohen escribió:
 
 That's a strange place. Is there
 /lib/modules/2.6.24-16-server/misc/oslec/oslec.ko ?
 
   find /lib/modules/2.6.24-16-server/ -name oslec.ko
 
 I suspect there's an older and incompatible copy of oslec.ko around.


You are right:

find /lib/modules/2.6.24-16-server/ -name oslec.ko
/lib/modules/2.6.24-16-server/oslec.ko
/lib/modules/2.6.24-16-server/misc/oslec/oslec.ko

I will be deleting all oslec.ko references, modules/zaptel directory and
start again.

Regards,

-- 
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Telconet S.A.
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Edificio Barre #2 Primer Piso
Telefono : +593 5 262 8071
Celular  : +593 9 985 5138
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Re: [asterisk-users] Zaptel 1.4.10.1 and OSLEC on Ubuntu 8.04

2008-06-17 Thread Guillermo Salas M.
El mar, 17-06-2008 a las 18:01 -0500, Guillermo Salas M. escribió:
 find /lib/modules/2.6.24-16-server/ -name oslec.ko
 /lib/modules/2.6.24-16-server/oslec.ko
 /lib/modules/2.6.24-16-server/misc/oslec/oslec.ko
 
 I will be deleting all oslec.ko references, modules/zaptel directory
 and
 start again.
 

It works :)

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# lsmod | grep oslec
oslec  10396  1 zaptel
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# lsmod | grep zaptel
zaptel195588  6 wcfxo,wcopenpci
oslec  10396  1 zaptel
crc_ccitt   3072  2 zaptel,hisax

Thank you very much for your help.

Best regards,


-- 
Guillermo Salas M.
Telconet S.A.
Calle 15 y Avenida 24 Esq
Edificio Barre #2 Primer Piso
Telefono : +593 5 262 8071
Celular  : +593 9 985 5138
e-mail   : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
www  : http://www.manta.telconet.net
   http://www.telcocarrier.net
SIP  : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FWD  : 558563
USA  : 1 360 968 1701

Linux User: 255902

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Re: [asterisk-users] Help! - Double NAT issue

2008-06-17 Thread sean darcy
Try this. It WFM:


localnet=10.0.0.0/255.255.255.0
nat = yes
stunaddr = stun.ekiga.net  ; or some other stun server, e.g.: foo.stun.com:3478
externrefresh = 15

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Re: [asterisk-users] adding funcionatlity to asterisk?! is it possible?!

2008-06-17 Thread Andrew Joakimsen
Right now the issue I see is you are using overlapping extensions
so maybe that's not working as expected?

you have in context sipura line exten 201, exten 201 included from
context spa and also exten 2xx included from context spa.

What you want to do with sending calls elsewhere if they are not
completed look at DIALSTATUS, e,g,:


[macro-stdexten]
;
; Standard extension macro:
;   ${ARG1} - SIP DEVICE
;   ${ARG2} - ringing seconds
;   ${ARG3} - vm-box-Nr.
;

exten = s,1,Macro(docid)
exten = s,2,Dial(SIP/${ARG1},${ARG2},r); Ring
the ${ARG1} interface, ${ARG3} seconds maximum
exten = s,3,Goto(s-${DIALSTATUS},1); Jump based on status
(NOANSWER,BUSY,CHANUNAVAIL,CONGESTION,ANSWER)

exten = s-NOANSWER,1,Playback(silence/1)
exten = s-NOANSWER,2,Voicemail(${ARG3},u)  ; If unavailable, send
to voicemail w/ unavail announce
exten = s-NOANSWER,3,Goto(s-${VMSTATUS},1)

exten = s-USEREXIT,1,Playback(cancelled)
exten = s-USEREXIT,2,Playback(goodbye)
exten = s-USEREXIT,3,Hangup

exten = s-SUCCESS,1,Playback(goodbye)
exten = s-SUCCESS,2,Hangup

exten = s-FAILED,1,Playback(sorry-youre-having-problems)
exten = s-FAILED,2,Playback(please-try-again-later)
exten = s-FAILED,3,Playback(goodbye)
exten = s-FAILED,4,Hangup

exten = o-CHANUNAVAIL,1,Goto(o-BUSY,1)

exten = s-BUSY,1,Playback(silence/1)
exten = s-BUSY,2,Voicemail(${ARG3},b)  ; If busy, send to
voicemail w/ busy announce
exten = s-BUSY,3,Playback(goodbye) ; If they press #,
return to start
exten = s-BUSY,4,Hangup

exten = o,1,Goto(o-${DIALSTATUS},1)

exten = _o-.,1,Goto(o-NOANSWER,1)

exten = o-BUSY,1,Goto(s,2)

exten = o-NOANSWER,1,Playback(please-try-again)
exten = o-NOANSWER,2,GoTo(s-NOANSWER,2)

exten = _s-.,1,Goto(s-NOANSWER,1)  ; Treat anything else
as no answer

exten = a,1,Playback(this-is-the-voice-mail-system)
exten = a,2,VoicemailMain(${ARG3}) ; If they press *,
send the user into VoicemailMain

For the directory, there's a directory application built into the
voicemail system. You might want to check that out, if it fits your
needs then it's probably the simplest solution.

On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 5:56 AM, RoLaNd RoLaNd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 hello all,

 im looking for a way to do the following:

 when a SPECIFIC call comes through to asterisk through sip, i want it to b
 directed to a pool of specific sip extensions (9 extensions) where asterisk
 tries one after the other till lhe finds one of them thats actually on.
 i want to add a step for asterisk to follow which is, when a sip extension
 doesn't answer or its offline, instead of immediately transferring to voice
 mail, i want it to dial that sip holder's number so it transfers the call to
 his cellphone for example. and if he didn't answer his cellphone its then
 that i want it to direct it to voice mail.
 i want to add another item to the operator menu, instead of just receiving
 the call and telling the caller to either dial extension or 100 for
 operator, i want asterisk to offer the caller an additional option like for
 example pressing 2, would direct you to a list of key personnels with their
 respective extensions.

 please find below my extensions.conf:


 [sipura-line]
 exten = 201,1,Answer() ; Answer inbound calls
 exten = 201,2,Playback(silence/1)
 exten = 201,3,Background(simzy1) ; input an extension
 exten = 201,4,Wait(8)
 include = spa
 exten = 201,n,Hangup()

 [spa]
 exten =_201,1,GoTo(sipura-line,${EXTEN},1)
 exten = _1XX,1,Dial(SIP/${EXTEN},15) ;each ring equals to 5 seconds, so it
 will ring 3 times
 exten = _1XX,2,VoiceMail([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 exten = _1XX,3,HangUp()
 exten = _2XX,1,Dial(SIP/${EXTEN},15) ;each ring equals to 5 seconds, so it
 will ring 3 times
 exten = _2XX,2,VoiceMail([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 exten = _2XX,3,HangUp()
 exten =_01,1,Dial(SIP/200)
 exten = 203,1,VoicemailMain
 exten = _2XX,1,Dial(SIP/${EXTEN},15)


 
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Re: [asterisk-users] strange SIP-SIP delay

2008-06-17 Thread Raj Jain
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Julian Lyndon-Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've got the following setup:

 PhoneA -
  router -
   vpn -
router-
 asterisk (SIP / ISDN)

 PhoneB -
  asterisk (SIP / ISDN)

 If phone A is connected to phone B (sip-sip), there is a noticable delay
 (up to 2-3 seconds) between me speaking and the other end hearing.

 If phone A calls out via the ISDN and back in  to the DDI of phone B (ie
 SIP-ISDN-ISDN-SIP) then there is no delay at all !

 Any clues on where I might start looking for this ?


Are you using canreinvite=yes setting (i.e. is the RTP media expected
to flow directly between the phones as opposed to hair-pining through
Asterisk)? If so, some of the delay could be attributed to the time
spent in RE-INVITEs that happen after the call set up.

--
Raj Jain

P.S. There is the directrtpsetup= flag that can eliminate this latency
(if you're indeed using canreinvite=yes), but I believe that feature
is considered experimental. Actually, if that feature is still
experimental, I'd like to change that and fix any associated bugs
because it seems like a pretty useful feature to me for people who
want to use Asterisk as a call controller (a.k.a. soft-switch) that
does not need to participate in the media path.

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Re: [asterisk-users] World Cheapest Predictive Dialer!

2008-06-17 Thread Dean Collins
Bzzzt I'm not an accountant, and don't play one on tv but you are wrong.

This only relates to the classification of the income as passive and has
nothing to do with can a director of a business shield himself.

Go pay someone $250 an hour and they'll tell you how it affects you and
stop wasting electrons on this sill email chain.


Cheers,

Dean



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of C F
Sent: Tuesday, 17 June 2008 5:23 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] World Cheapest Predictive Dialer!

My questions was to the fact that JRA mentioned he knows at least 3
owners. to which I asked if it was LLCs or other type of
corporations, since LLCs have different rules. What I mentioned about
it being illegal is for non LLC type of corporations, but for most of
the other types of corporations, while it's possible that it is
illegal for LLCs as well in some states I could understand that the
rules could be relaxed for LLCs as well. As far as the IRS goes i'm
quite positive that it's illegal for tax purposes, in other words it
cannot be counted as a business expense.
The way I understand this:
http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/article/0,,id=146835,00.html
towards the bottom of the page, it cannot always be used as a business
expense. Correct me if I'm wrong.

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 12:21 PM, Steve Totaro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You are probably confusing corporate tactics to pay less taxes vs
 corporate tactics to protect assets.  The first does provide some
 asset protection but is mainly to pay less taxes.  The second is to
 basically hide assets through totally legal LLCs.

 Thanks,
 Steve Totaro

 On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 12:00 PM, C F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 LLCs?

 On 6/16/08, Jay R. Ashworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 11:13:31PM -0400, C F wrote:
   Happens in the commercial world all the time; it's a common way
to get
   cash out of the corporation -- a business's building is owned
by the
   corporation's owners, and rented to the corporation.
 
  This is actually illegal in some states and considered a breach of
  Fiduciary everywhere.

 May be, but I know at least 3 owners of private corporations who are
 doing it, and their auditors seem fine with it.  I think that it
 matters whether the corporation is public or not...

 Cheers,
 -- jra
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[asterisk-users] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn

2008-06-17 Thread Vinicius Bossle Fagundes
LinkedIn



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--

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[asterisk-users] Canadian Whitepage Listing Capability

2008-06-17 Thread Joseph L. Casale
So my SIP Provider states they do not offer the service to list my numbers w/ 
the Whitepages.
We phoned the Whitepages and they said we can't do it, the SIP Provider must?

Either one/both of them is/are useless or I must switch SIP providers to one 
that can get this done.

Anyone familiar with this fiasco and can help steer me in the right direction? 
Any suggestions
would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks,
jlc

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Re: [asterisk-users] World Cheapest Predictive Dialer!

2008-06-17 Thread C F
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 7:57 PM, Dean Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Bzzzt I'm not an accountant, and don't play one on tv but you are wrong.

 This only relates to the classification of the income as passive and has
 nothing to do with can a director of a business shield himself.

 Go pay someone $250 an hour and they'll tell you how it affects you and
 stop wasting electrons on this sill email chain.

Like I said in the last email, I misread it and it has nothing to do
with if a director of a business may rent his property to his
business.



 Cheers,

 Dean



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of C F
 Sent: Tuesday, 17 June 2008 5:23 PM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] World Cheapest Predictive Dialer!

 My questions was to the fact that JRA mentioned he knows at least 3
 owners. to which I asked if it was LLCs or other type of
 corporations, since LLCs have different rules. What I mentioned about
 it being illegal is for non LLC type of corporations, but for most of
 the other types of corporations, while it's possible that it is
 illegal for LLCs as well in some states I could understand that the
 rules could be relaxed for LLCs as well. As far as the IRS goes i'm
 quite positive that it's illegal for tax purposes, in other words it
 cannot be counted as a business expense.
 The way I understand this:
 http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/article/0,,id=146835,00.html
 towards the bottom of the page, it cannot always be used as a business
 expense. Correct me if I'm wrong.

 On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 12:21 PM, Steve Totaro
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You are probably confusing corporate tactics to pay less taxes vs
 corporate tactics to protect assets.  The first does provide some
 asset protection but is mainly to pay less taxes.  The second is to
 basically hide assets through totally legal LLCs.

 Thanks,
 Steve Totaro

 On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 12:00 PM, C F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 LLCs?

 On 6/16/08, Jay R. Ashworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 11:13:31PM -0400, C F wrote:
   Happens in the commercial world all the time; it's a common way
 to get
   cash out of the corporation -- a business's building is owned
 by the
   corporation's owners, and rented to the corporation.
 
  This is actually illegal in some states and considered a breach of
  Fiduciary everywhere.

 May be, but I know at least 3 owners of private corporations who are
 doing it, and their auditors seem fine with it.  I think that it
 matters whether the corporation is public or not...

 Cheers,
 -- jra
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Re: [asterisk-users] Canadian Whitepage Listing Capability

2008-06-17 Thread Eric ManxPower Wieling

Joseph L. Casale wrote:
 So my SIP Provider states they do not offer the service to list my numbers w/ 
 the Whitepages.
 We phoned the Whitepages and they said we can't do it, the SIP Provider must?
 
 Either one/both of them is/are useless or I must switch SIP providers to one 
 that can get this done.
 
 Anyone familiar with this fiasco and can help steer me in the right 
 direction? Any suggestions
 would be greatly appreciated!

I am not aware of any ITSPs (Internet phone companies) that provide 
white pages listings.  They could exist, but I doubt it.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Canadian Whitepage Listing Capability

2008-06-17 Thread Trevor Peirce
Joseph L. Casale wrote:
 So my SIP Provider states they do not offer the service to list my numbers w/ 
 the Whitepages.
 We phoned the Whitepages and they said we can't do it, the SIP Provider must?
 
 Either one/both of them is/are useless or I must switch SIP providers to one 
 that can get this done.
 
 Anyone familiar with this fiasco and can help steer me in the right 
 direction? Any suggestions
 would be greatly appreciated!

In BC I've been able to get listings added by calling Superpages and 
asking them for an Additional listing.  Last time I checked they 
billed something like $3.35/month *plus* an insertion fee.  Even though 
I dealt with Superpages directly to generate the listing, my bills came 
from Telus (I don't have any Telus services).

I'm not sure what province you're in, but maybe those clues will help 
point you in the right direction.

Trevor

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