Re: [asterisk-users] SOLVED: No reply to our critical packet

2009-03-16 Thread Roman Odaisky
Hi,

 Next Step would be to check/update the firmware on your phones or router.

I dismissed this advice at first, but it was the one that worked in the end. 
The D-Link DSL-2500U ADSL router was to blame, it must have been interfering 
with SIP packets (maybe an outdated version of the SIP conntrack module or 
something like that). The 1.50 firmware version solved the problem and also 
gave the impression of working faster overall than 1.20.

Thanks a lot.

Roman.


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Re: [asterisk-users] BRI cards; JUNGHANNS AND B410P

2009-03-16 Thread Rayed Bs
Thank you for your attention;
I have successfully installed junghanns (With BRIstuff) under a kernel 2.6
fc6 and asterisk 1.2, but i can't do it with B410P in the same
environnement(Problem with the kernel);but my real problem is in the
configuration of extentions.conf because i don't have a ISDN line to test
it.
THANKS A LOT.

2009/3/14 Olivier oza-4...@myamail.com



 2009/3/14 Rayed Bs rayed.i...@gmail.com

 hi every body,
 can anyone give me the right configuration of BRI cards; zapata.conf ,
 zaptel.conf ans extensions.conf;
 please help


 which config do you target ? b410p or junghanns ?
 which asterisk version ?



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[asterisk-users] trying asterfax

2009-03-16 Thread Nhadie
Hi,

Has anyone able to make asterfax work on asterisk, specifically asterisk 
1.4. reading the documentation it prefers asterisk 1.2, unfortunately 
i've already setup my asterisk and it's working ok at that version.

TIA.

regards,
nha

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[asterisk-users] t38 iax trunk

2009-03-16 Thread dubravko caric
Hi all,

I have a question regarding using T38 for fax sending and here is my scenario:

fax - SIP ATA (T38 enabled) - Asterisk #1 - IAX TRUNK - Asterisk #2 - SIP 
ATA (T38 enabled) - fax

My question is, how can I know if I'm really using T38? is T38 information 
coming to the other side (because of SIP to IAX conversion) or just plain g711a 
data?

I'm using Linksys SPA2102, Asterisk 1.4.22 (configured with t38pt_udptl = yes) 
and I have a pretty good link so faxes are going through even if T38 is 
switched off. Interesting thing  is that faxes are going through even when one 
ATA is T38 enabled and the other isn't...


Thanks for help

/dubravko



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Re: [asterisk-users] BRI cards; JUNGHANNS AND B410P

2009-03-16 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 09:14:48AM +0100, Rayed Bs wrote:
 Thank you for your attention;
 I have successfully installed junghanns (With BRIstuff) under a kernel 2.6
 fc6 and asterisk 1.2, but i can't do it with B410P in the same
 environnement(Problem with the kernel);but my real problem is in the
 configuration of extentions.conf because i don't have a ISDN line to test
 it.
 THANKS A LOT.

AFAIK the B410P can work with a slightly modified version of qozap, but
the hardware echo canceller will not be supported. I suppose that also
implies that the LEDs won't work.

There is a DAHDI driver for it as part of the standard DAHDI
distribution. This means that you can use it with Asterisk 1.4 ( =
1.4.22) with bristuffed Asterisk and libpri and with Asterisk 1.6.x with
standard Asterisk and libpri.

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[asterisk-users] url in dial command: how does it work?

2009-03-16 Thread Giorgio Incantalupo
Hi,

Does anybody knows where I can find some docs about how to make the URL 
parameter inside the Dial command work? I tried to make some tests with 
a sip phone without success: the sip debug shows no URL inside sip 
packets. :(
Any hint appreciated. :)

Thank you

Giorgio

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[asterisk-users] SIMPLE

2009-03-16 Thread Nhadie
Hi All,

Is this available on asterisk:

http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/simple-charter.html

what do i need to enable to support this. thanks

Regards,
Nhadie

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[asterisk-users] ANI with Pickup application

2009-03-16 Thread Christophorus Laube
Hi,

does anyone of you have made it to get the ANI also picked up? I mean:
if I fetch a foreign call to me by using the pickup application I want
to see the callerID/ANI of the caller to the foreign extension. Is that
possible and if yes - how do I achieve that?
Regards, Christophorus



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Re: [asterisk-users] url in dial command: how does it work?

2009-03-16 Thread Tim Panton

Use IAX :-)

In principle chan_skype could also support it.

T.

On 16 Mar 2009, at 10:51, Giorgio Incantalupo wrote:


Hi,

Does anybody knows where I can find some docs about how to make the  
URL
parameter inside the Dial command work? I tried to make some tests  
with

a sip phone without success: the sip debug shows no URL inside sip
packets. :(
Any hint appreciated. :)

Thank you

Giorgio

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.6 ReceiveFAX problem

2009-03-16 Thread Steve Underwood

MaxGao wrote:

hi,all
i have just set up asterisk 1.6.0.7 rc1 with spandsp 0.0.5 pre4 to 
ReceiveFAX, link to a E1 (DE410P) using dahdi
this can receive the fax from E1 successfully, but i see many error 
message in the log like this:


[Mar 16 09:24:38] ERROR[23540] channel.c: ast_read() called with no 
recorded file descriptor.
when i receive a 5 pages fax, i will see this error message over 200 
lines.
it seems the channel.c try to call ast_read(), read some bytes from 
the channel but there is nothing ...

whether it's a loop to check data on the channel ?
and many times when reciving tax , the E1 card will down , all the 
channel get red alarm...
[Mar 16 09:49:19] DEBUG[20928] chan_dahdi.c: Monitor doohicky got 
event Alarm on channel 2
[Mar 16 09:49:19] WARNING[20928] chan_dahdi.c: Detected alarm on 
channel 2: Recovering
i then try asterisk 1.4.23.2 and agx-ast-addon , when using spandsp 
0.0.5 and spandsp 0.0.6, like above , sometimes all E1 channel get red 
alarm when reciving fax

but use spandsp 0.0.4 get no error...
some one can tell me what version of asterisk and spandsp is the best 
version for fax???

thanks a lot.
Red alarms have nothing whatsoever to do with FAXing, or even Asterisk. 
They only relate to the state of the line, the card, and the 
dahdi/zaptel drivers. You'd better sort that out before expecting any 
application to work.


Regards,
Steve


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Re: [asterisk-users] t38 iax trunk

2009-03-16 Thread Steve Underwood
dubravko caric wrote:
 Hi all,

 I have a question regarding using T38 for fax sending and here is my 
 scenario:

 fax - SIP ATA (T38 enabled) - Asterisk #1 - IAX TRUNK - Asterisk 
 #2 - SIP ATA (T38 enabled) - fax

 My question is, how can I know if I'm really using T38? is T38 
 information coming to the other side (because of SIP to IAX 
 conversion) or just plain g711a data?

 I'm using Linksys SPA2102, Asterisk 1.4.22 (configured with 
 t38pt_udptl = yes) and I have a pretty good link so faxes are going 
 through even if T38 is switched off. Interesting thing  is that faxes 
 are going through even when one ATA is T38 enabled and the other isn't...
There is no definition for how T.38 messages would be handled in an IAX 
stream, so I doubt you are sending T.38 data between those two Asterisk 
boxes.

Regards,
Steve


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Re: [asterisk-users] ANI with Pickup application

2009-03-16 Thread Olivier
2009/3/16 Christophorus Laube christophorus.la...@semanticedge.de

 Hi,

 does anyone of you have made it to get the ANI also picked up? I mean:
 if I fetch a foreign call to me by using the pickup application I want
 to see the callerID/ANI of the caller to the foreign extension. Is that
 possible and if yes - how do I achieve that?


using SIP P-asserted ids and asterisk 1.6.1, this shoulld be possible to get
CallerID (I've never tried it yet).


 Regards, Christophorus



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[asterisk-users] Transfers on an inter-PBX PRI link

2009-03-16 Thread Vieri

Hi,

I am trying to understand why some of my call transfers fail.

My scenario is as follows:

Legacy PBX1 ---PRI (EuroISDN) Zaptel--- Asterisk PBX2

Step1: PBX1 extension 101 calls PBX2 extension 102

Step2: PBX2 extension 102 answers the call and transfers it to PBX1 extension 
103

Step3: PBX1 extension 103 answers the call and transfers it to PBX2 extension 
104

Step3 fails and extension 103 is reconnected to 101.

Why is Step3 failing and how could I change my setup so the transfer succeeds?

As a side question, I'd like to know if I could free the unnecessary zap 
channels created in Steps 1 and 2.
On analog channels I could SendDTMF(${EXTEN}). I don't know how to do that on a 
digital pri line and if it requires that the legacy PBX be compatible.

Anyway, I'm not too worried about freeing the PRI channels. I just want Step3 
to work.

Is it possible, somehow?

Thanks in advance,

Vieri



  

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Re: [asterisk-users] url in dial command: how does it work?

2009-03-16 Thread Giorgio Incantalupo
Hi Tim,

ok, but I think the big question is...what is the URL for? It seems I 
need a special device...but which? What kind of device do you use?

Thanks.

Giorgio

Tim Panton wrote:
 Use IAX :-)

 In principle chan_skype could also support it.

 T.

 On 16 Mar 2009, at 10:51, Giorgio Incantalupo wrote:

 Hi,

 Does anybody knows where I can find some docs about how to make the URL
 parameter inside the Dial command work? I tried to make some tests with
 a sip phone without success: the sip debug shows no URL inside sip
 packets. :(
 Any hint appreciated. :)

 Thank you

 Giorgio

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[asterisk-users] Ignore switch to REVERSED Polarity on channel 1, state 4

2009-03-16 Thread Steve Howes
Hi,

Trying to trace an asterisk hang on a production (it had to be didn't  
it) system. The last thing before it crashed was

[Mar 16 12:32:42] DEBUG[7754] chan_zap.c: Ignore switch to REVERSED  
Polarity on channel 1, state 4
[Mar 16 12:54:34] DEBUG[7754] chan_zap.c: Ignore switch to REVERSED  
Polarity on channel 2, state 4
[Mar 16 12:54:35] DEBUG[7754] chan_zap.c: Ignore switch to REVERSED  
Polarity on channel 2, state 4
[Mar 16 12:55:09] DEBUG[7754] chan_zap.c: Ignore switch to REVERSED  
Polarity on channel 2, state 4

Whilst i am aware polarity reversal is normal (clid stuff etc) the  
'state 4' is not... see this grep for 'REVERSED' in full log:

[Mar 16 08:01:22] DEBUG[11561] chan_zap.c: Ignore switch to REVERSED  
Polarity on channel 1, state 6
[Mar 16 08:05:02] DEBUG[11576] chan_zap.c: Ignore switch to REVERSED  
Polarity on channel 1, state 6
[Mar 16 08:43:43] DEBUG[11737] chan_zap.c: Ignore switch to REVERSED  
Polarity on channel 1, state 6
[Mar 16 08:45:16] DEBUG[11747] chan_zap.c: Ignore switch to REVERSED  
Polarity on channel 1, state 6
[Mar 16 08:50:22] DEBUG[11767] chan_zap.c: Ignore switch to REVERSED  
Polarity on channel 1, state 6
[Mar 16 08:51:02] DEBUG[11771] chan_zap.c: Ignore switch to REVERSED  
Polarity on channel 1, state 6
[Mar 16 08:51:40] DEBUG[11776] chan_zap.c: Ignore switch to REVERSED  
Polarity on channel 1, state 6
[Mar 16 08:52:05] DEBUG[11780] chan_zap.c: Ignore switch to REVERSED  
Polarity on channel 2, state 6
[Mar 16 08:53:41] DEBUG[11786] chan_zap.c: Ignore switch to REVERSED  
Polarity on channel 1, state 6
[Mar 16 08:58:14] DEBUG[11798] chan_zap.c: Ignore switch to REVERSED  
Polarity on channel 1, state 6
[Mar 16 08:59:55] DEBUG[11803] chan_zap.c: Ignore switch to REVERSED  
Polarity on channel 1, state 6
[Mar 16 09:11:49] DEBUG[11828] chan_zap.c: Ignore switch to REVERSED  
Polarity on channel 1, state 6
[Mar 16 09:14:23] DEBUG[11836] chan_zap.c: Ignore switch to REVERSED  
Polarity on channel 1, state 6
[Mar 16 09:20:47] DEBUG[11851] chan_zap.c: Ignore switch to REVERSED  
Polarity on channel 1, state 6
[Mar 16 09:26:08] DEBUG[11949] chan_zap.c: Ignore switch to REVERSED  
Polarity on channel 1, state 6
[Mar 16 09:26:48] DEBUG[11958] chan_zap.c: Ignore switch to REVERSED  
Polarity on channel 2, state 6
[Mar 16 09:27:34] DEBUG[11968] chan_zap.c: Ignore switch to REVERSED  
Polarity on channel 1, state 6
[Mar 16 09:39:19] DEBUG[11999] chan_zap.c: Ignore switch to REVERSED  
Polarity on channel 1, state 6
[Mar 16 09:45:22] DEBUG[12015] chan_zap.c: Ignore switch to REVERSED  
Polarity on channel 1, state 6
[Mar 16 09:48:59] DEBUG[12033] chan_zap.c: Ignore switch to REVERSED  
Polarity on channel 2, state 4
[Mar 16 09:49:35] DEBUG[12038] chan_zap.c: Ignore switch to REVERSED  
Polarity on channel 1, state 6
[Mar 16 09:52:00] DEBUG[12046] chan_zap.c: Ignore switch to REVERSED  
Polarity on channel 2, state 6
[Mar 16 09:52:02] DEBUG[12045] chan_zap.c: Ignore switch to REVERSED  
Polarity on channel 1, state 6
[Mar 16 09:53:37] DEBUG[12054] chan_zap.c: Ignore switch to REVERSED  
Polarity on channel 1, state 6
[Mar 16 09:53:57] DEBUG[12058] chan_zap.c: Ignore switch to REVERSED  
Polarity on channel 2, state 6
[Mar 16 09:55:50] DEBUG[12073] chan_zap.c: Ignore switch to REVERSED  
Polarity on channel 1, state 6
[Mar 16 09:56:01] DEBUG[12076] chan_zap.c: Ignore switch to REVERSED  
Polarity on channel 2, state 6
[Mar 16 09:57:26] DEBUG[12081] chan_zap.c: Ignore switch to REVERSED  
Polarity on channel 1, state 6
[Mar 16 09:58:21] DEBUG[12086] chan_zap.c: Ignore switch to REVERSED  
Polarity on channel 1, state 6
[Mar 16 10:04:59] DEBUG[12101] chan_zap.c: Ignore switch to REVERSED  
Polarity on channel 1, state 6
[Mar 16 10:12:43] DEBUG[12117] chan_zap.c: Ignore switch to REVERSED  
Polarity on channel 1, state 6
[Mar 16 10:17:34] DEBUG[12141] chan_zap.c: Ignore switch to REVERSED  
Polarity on channel 1, state 6
[Mar 16 10:17:46] DEBUG[12145] chan_zap.c: Ignore switch to REVERSED  
Polarity on channel 3, state 6
[Mar 16 10:18:27] DEBUG[12150] chan_zap.c: Ignore switch to REVERSED  
Polarity on channel 1, state 6
[Mar 16 10:21:42] DEBUG[12164] chan_zap.c: Ignore switch to REVERSED  
Polarity on channel 2, state 4
[Mar 16 10:23:10] DEBUG[12172] chan_zap.c: Ignore switch to REVERSED  
Polarity on channel 1, state 6
[Mar 16 10:39:19] DEBUG[12282] chan_zap.c: Ignore switch to REVERSED  
Polarity on channel 1, state 6
[Mar 16 10:45:24] DEBUG[12298] chan_zap.c: Ignore switch to REVERSED  
Polarity on channel 1, state 6
[Mar 16 10:46:15] DEBUG[12303] chan_zap.c: Ignore switch to REVERSED  
Polarity on channel 1, state 6
[Mar 16 10:50:24] DEBUG[12316] chan_zap.c: Ignore switch to REVERSED  
Polarity on channel 1, state 6
[Mar 16 10:57:21] DEBUG[12331] chan_zap.c: Ignore switch to REVERSED  
Polarity on channel 1, state 6
[Mar 16 10:58:57] DEBUG[12338] chan_zap.c: Ignore switch to REVERSED  
Polarity on channel 1, state 6
[Mar 16 10:59:43] DEBUG[12342] chan_zap.c: Ignore 

Re: [asterisk-users] url in dial command: how does it work?

2009-03-16 Thread Giorgio Incantalupo
Hi Tim,

it seems that using trunks is the right wayis this what you meant?

Tim Panton wrote:
 Use IAX :-)

 In principle chan_skype could also support it.

 T.

 On 16 Mar 2009, at 10:51, Giorgio Incantalupo wrote:

 Hi,

 Does anybody knows where I can find some docs about how to make the URL
 parameter inside the Dial command work? I tried to make some tests with
 a sip phone without success: the sip debug shows no URL inside sip
 packets. :(
 Any hint appreciated. :)

 Thank you

 Giorgio

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Re: [asterisk-users] Transfers on an inter-PBX PRI link

2009-03-16 Thread Steve Totaro
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 8:49 AM, Vieri rentor...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I am trying to understand why some of my call transfers fail.

 My scenario is as follows:

 Legacy PBX1 ---PRI (EuroISDN) Zaptel--- Asterisk PBX2

 Step1: PBX1 extension 101 calls PBX2 extension 102

 Step2: PBX2 extension 102 answers the call and transfers it to PBX1 extension 
 103

 Step3: PBX1 extension 103 answers the call and transfers it to PBX2 extension 
 104

 Step3 fails and extension 103 is reconnected to 101.

 Why is Step3 failing and how could I change my setup so the transfer succeeds?

 As a side question, I'd like to know if I could free the unnecessary zap 
 channels created in Steps 1 and 2.
 On analog channels I could SendDTMF(${EXTEN}). I don't know how to do that on 
 a digital pri line and if it requires that the legacy PBX be compatible.

 Anyway, I'm not too worried about freeing the PRI channels. I just want 
 Step3 to work.

 Is it possible, somehow?

 Thanks in advance,

 Vieri



Relevant parts of your dialplan, tech.conf, and debug info is probably
the only way to really help you besides making wild guesses.

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Re: [asterisk-users] ANI with Pickup application

2009-03-16 Thread Christophorus Laube
Hallo Ralf,

das ist die Antwort von der Liste. Klingt etwas vage und nicht absolut
erfolgversprechend... Derzeit ist kein Upgrade auf Asterisk 1.6 geplant
und nach allem, was ich darüber bisher gelesen habe, kann die Umstellung
auch etwas größer werden (Wählplansyntax etc.). Beronet empfiehlt
derzeit auch nach wie vor 1.4, von 1.6 auf Produktivsystemen wird
abgeraten.
Gruß, Christophorus

 
 
 2009/3/16 Christophorus Laube christophorus.la...@semanticedge.de
 Hi,
 
 does anyone of you have made it to get the ANI also picked up?
 I mean:
 if I fetch a foreign call to me by using the pickup
 application I want
 to see the callerID/ANI of the caller to the foreign
 extension. Is that
 possible and if yes - how do I achieve that?
 
 using SIP P-asserted ids and asterisk 1.6.1, this shoulld be possible
 to get CallerID (I've never tried it yet).
 
 
 
 Regards, Christophorus
 
 
 
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[asterisk-users] Problems on default Attended Transfer

2009-03-16 Thread derwditel derwditel
Hi,
I'm currently using Asterisk 1.4.23.1, and I have a problem (also on
previous version).
Sometimes, when I try to do an attended transfer to another internal with
default feature *2, Asterisk doesn't make it (it doesn't play
'pbx-transfer'). Sometimes on second time, Asterisk make transfer correctly.
I have this problem on variuos type of SIP phones (GrandStream, Aastra,
OKI).

My sip.conf is like the following account:

===
[intphones](!)
type=friend
qualify=yes
host=dynamic
callgroup=1
pickupgroup=1
dtmfmode=sip

[1](intphones)
context=IntPhones
username=1
secret=1234
amaflags=documentation
accountcode=11
subscribecontext=IntPhones
callerid=phone 11 11
limitonpeers=yes
call-limit=100

[2](intphones)
context=IntPhones
username=2
secret=1234
amaflags=documentation
accountcode=12
subscribecontext=IntPhones
callerid=phone 12 12
limitonpeers=yes
call-limit=100
===

and on extensions.conf my dial lines are like:

===
exten = _1X,1,Dial(SIP/${EXTEN:1},,tTr)
exten = _1X,n,Hangup()
===



Can anyone help me? I don't underwstand where I make the mistake!

Thanks to everyone

Marco
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Re: [asterisk-users] Are .call files working with extensions.ael ? bristuff problem

2009-03-16 Thread Olivier
Hi,

As soon as I removed back line 266 as suggested by Peer Oliver, it worked.


Lines changed in /usr/src/bristuff-0.4.0-RC4-xr6/asterisk/pbx/pbx_spool.c :
/* Olivier
if (ast_strlen_zero(o-tech) || ast_strlen_zero(o-dest) ||
(ast_strlen_zero(o-app)  ast_strlen_zero(o-exten)) ||
(ast_strlen_zero(o-message)  ast_strlen_zero(o-pdu))) {
*/
if (ast_strlen_zero(o-tech) || ast_strlen_zero(o-dest) ||
(ast_strlen_zero(o-app)  ast_strlen_zero(o-exten))) {


Procedure used to update:
cd /usr/src/bristuff-0.4.0-RC4-xr6/asterisk/
make all
make install

File astup.call :
Channel: Sip/700
Context: mylocal
Extension: 00123457530
Priority: 1



Now, looking at removed line, it would say if both message and pdu are
empty, then print error message.
Question is now, is this a feature (ie you must either add a pdu or a
message (or both) in call files) or a bug ?

Regards

PS: I'll post the answer to Bristuff mailinglist as this must of interest
there ...
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Re: [asterisk-users] url in dial command: how does it work?

2009-03-16 Thread Tim Panton

Oh sorry, I wasn't clear.
The IAX protocol has a frame type for sending this URL info.
Skype has an attribute for it.

The intention is (I think) to be able to forward the URL for
the customer (in the corporate CRM system)  to the agent
answering a call on a softphone.

Some of the IAX softphones support this.

What were you planning to do with it.


Tim.

On 16 Mar 2009, at 13:04, Giorgio Incantalupo wrote:


Hi Tim,

ok, but I think the big question is...what is the URL for? It seems I
need a special device...but which? What kind of device do you use?

Thanks.

Giorgio

Tim Panton wrote:

Use IAX :-)

In principle chan_skype could also support it.

T.

On 16 Mar 2009, at 10:51, Giorgio Incantalupo wrote:


Hi,

Does anybody knows where I can find some docs about how to make  
the URL
parameter inside the Dial command work? I tried to make some tests  
with

a sip phone without success: the sip debug shows no URL inside sip
packets. :(
Any hint appreciated. :)

Thank you

Giorgio

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Re: [asterisk-users] 428 Loop Detected

2009-03-16 Thread Asif Iqbal
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:10 AM, Steve Totaro
stot...@totarotechnologies.com wrote:
 Again, if I am interpreting this correctly, he is not using SIP.  A
 four port card 2fxo/2fxs means to me that he is not using SIP at all.

You are correct. I was confused. It is Zap (zaptel) channel


 If by card, you mean some kind of SIP gateway, then I misunderstood
 and the problem, but seeing DAHDI channels leads me to believe that
 SIP is not required and actually causing your problems.

 SIP is a protocol for VoIP, DAHDI/Zaptel is TDM (analog POTS in this
 case)...  If you had a SIP device, it would be connected to the data
 network, not a phone line.  Can you just plug your phone into a
 regular landline jack and get dialtone?  If so, forget SIP for now.

 Comment out or delete all your sip.conf peers since you are not using SIP.

 Change your dialplan to not (Dial/SIP but (Dial/DAHDI/1,10) and the
 correct channel to your FXS port that the phone is connected to.

Dial(Zap/1) worked like a charm.

Thanks all for your help


 Thanks,
 Steve Totaro

 On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 9:20 PM, Marco Mouta marco.mo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 problem is that you are saying that phone in sip.conf is at the same
 ip address of your asterisk box so you are dialing into a loop to your
 self asterisk box

 [phone]
 type=friend
 context=phone1
 secret=g00dpazzwerd
 bindport=5060
 host=192.168.1.106
 dtmfmode=rfc2833

 what you need is:

 [phone]
 type=friend
 context=phone1
 secret=g00dpazzwerd
 dtmfmode=rfc2833
 host=dynamic
 ;configuring your codecs (i don't know what else you have configured,
 just preventing audio for you)
 disallow=all
 allow=ulaw
 allow=alaw
 allow=gsm


 Dial sip/phone is enough too..

 [from-pstn]
 ;include = default
 exten = s,1,Dial(SIP/phone,10)
 exten = s,2,Voicemail(line)
 exten = s,3,Hangup


 hope it helps.

 don't forget to asterisk reload on cli.

 Looking forward to hearing from you.

 cheers

 --
 Marco Mouta



 On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 10:28 PM, Asif Iqbal vad...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi I looked at few emails related to this subject. And still not sure
 how to solve the loop detect problem for my case

 iqb...@improvise:/etc/asterisk$ cat sip.conf

 [general]
 context=line1

 [phone]
 type=friend
 context=phone1
 secret=g00dpazzwerd
 bindport=5060
 host=192.168.1.106
 dtmfmode=rfc2833

 [line]
 type=friend
 context=line1
 secret=anothers33cret
 bindport=5061
 host=192.168.1.106
 dtmfmode=rfc2833

 iqb...@improvise:/etc/asterisk$ cat extensions.conf
 [default]
 exten = s,1,Answer
 exten = s,2,Wait(2)
 exten = s,3,Playback(tt-monkeys)
 exten = s,4,Hangup

 [from-internal]
 include = default

 [phone1]

 [from-pstn]
 ;include = default
 exten = s,1,Dial(SIP/ph...@phone,10)
 exten = s,2,Voicemail(line)
 exten = s,3,Hangup

 [line1]


 So my home land line is going to the FXO port and my home phone is
 hanging off of FXS port.

 Here are the contexts for my fxo/fxs card


 improvise*CLI dahdi show channels
   Chan Extension  Context         Language   MOH Interpret
  pseudo            default                    default
      1            from-internal              default
      2            from-internal              default
      3            from-pstn                  default
      4            from-pstn                  default


 I want to call from my cell and make my home phone ring and if I dont
 pickup in 10 secs I want the call
 go to my voicemail. But I am getting a loop detect. The debug output
 is attached.

 What am I doing wrong?

 --
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 PGP Key: 0xE62693C5 KeyServer: pgp.mit.edu
 A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
 Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?



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 +18887771888 (Toll Free)
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A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?

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Re: [asterisk-users] t38 iax trunk

2009-03-16 Thread David Backeberg
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 6:05 AM, dubravko caric
dubravko_ca...@yahoo.com wrote:
 fax - SIP ATA (T38 enabled) - Asterisk #1 - IAX TRUNK - Asterisk #2 -
 SIP ATA (T38 enabled) - fax

 My question is, how can I know if I'm really using T38? is T38 information
 coming to the other side (because of SIP to IAX conversion) or just plain
 g711a data?

You don't give dialplan samples, but if you're using Asterisk SendFax
and ReceiveFax from app_fax...

You can answer this directly in your dialplan:

exten = s,1,Answer
exten = s,n,Set(LOCALSTATIONID=faxmodem01)
exten = s,n,Set(LOCALPATH=/var/spool/fax/recvq/${LOCALSTATIONID}/)
exten = s,n,Set(MYLOCALDATE=${STRFTIME(${EPOCH},,%C%y-%m-%d-%H%M)})
exten = s,n,Set(MYFILENAME=${LOCALSTATIONID}-${MYLOCALDATE}-${CDR(uniqueid)})
exten = s,n,Set(MYFULLPATH=${LOCALPATH}${MYFILENAME})
exten = s,n,ReceiveFax(${MYFULLPATH}.tif)

exten = h,1,System(/bin/echo
${MYFULLPATH},${CALLERID(num)},${CALLERID(name)},${FAXSTATUS},${FAXERROR},${FAXMODE},${FAXPAGES},${REMOTESTATIONID}
 ${LOCALPATH}fax.log)
exten = h,n,Hangup

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[asterisk-users] A400P + Intel D201GLY2(A) motherboard?

2009-03-16 Thread Gilles
Hello

I'd like to build myself an Asterisk server for SOHO use. Intel's 
D201GLY2 motherboard (http://tinyurl.com/ddarzp) looks like a very 
good deal, but I'm concerned about two things:

1. Will an A400P (from OpenVox, but supposed to be Digium-compatible 
http://tinyurl.com/ck6nfu) fit with a PCI riser, or will the CPU 
heatsink/fan be in the way? I downloaded the PDF from OpenVox's site, 
but didn't find the size of each PCI card

2. Performance, especially if there's the need for software echo cancelling

If someone here has used this motherboard to build an Asterisk 
server, could you answer the questions, at least the first one?

Thank you.


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Re: [asterisk-users] No hardware timing source found in /proc/dahdi

2009-03-16 Thread Shaun Ruffell
John Millican wrote:
 Well,
 lsmod | grep hisax returns nothing
 
 plain lsmod:
 Module  Size  Used by
 dahdi_dummy22472  0
 dahdi 215776  1 dahdi_dummy
 crc_ccitt  18944  1 dahdi
 af_packet  57100  2
 snd_pcm_oss67456  0
 snd_mixer_oss  34176  1 snd_pcm_oss
 snd_seq74992  0
 snd_seq_device 25620  1 snd_seq
 vmnet  72992  3
 parport_pc 58456  0
 parport56588  1 parport_pc
 vmmon 158908  0
 sunrpc198600  1
 iptable_filter 19840  0
 ip_tables  37848  1 iptable_filter
 ip6table_filter19584  0
 ip6_tables 31944  1 ip6table_filter
 x_tables   37000  2 ip_tables,ip6_tables
 ipv6  372344  29
 cpufreq_conservative24968  0
 cpufreq_userspace  23680  0
 cpufreq_powersave  18560  0
 powernow_k831504  0
 apparmor   58672  0
 loop   36356  0
 dm_mod 77152  0
 ohci1394   51272  0
 ieee1394  115800  1 ohci1394
 i2c_nforce222784  0
 snd_hda_intel 368804  0
 i2c_core   43648  1 i2c_nforce2
 snd_pcm   108680  2 snd_pcm_oss,snd_hda_intel
 snd_timer  42632  2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
 snd84984  7
 snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm,snd_timer
 k8temp 22656  0
 hwmon  20232  1 k8temp
 button 26400  0
 usblp  30976  0
 forcedeth  65416  0
 rtc_cmos   25016  0
 rtc_core   38156  1 rtc_cmos
 rtc_lib19968  1 rtc_core
 sr_mod 33444  0
 cdrom  52392  1 sr_mod
 usb_storage   102816  0
 soundcore  25360  1 snd
 snd_page_alloc 27280  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
 ide_core  165648  1 usb_storage
 sg 53304  0
 usbhid 58160  0
 hid43776  1 usbhid
 ff_memless 22536  1 usbhid
 sd_mod 45824  6
 ohci_hcd   38020  0
 ehci_hcd   50572  0
 usbcore   155560  6 usblp,usb_storage,usbhid,ohci_hcd,ehci_hcd
 edd26760  0
 ext3  156688  3
 mbcache26248  1 ext3
 jbd89192  1 ext3
 fan22792  0
 sata_nv38404  4
 pata_amd   31876  0
 libata164096  2 sata_nv,pata_amd
 scsi_mod  176536  5 sr_mod,usb_storage,sg,sd_mod,libata
 thermal34576  0
 processor  59592  2 powernow_k8,thermal


Looking at the lsmod output, it appears that the wctdm module is not 
loaded.  So either the /etc/dahdi/modules has the wctdm module commented 
out, or something is wrong with the /etc/init.d/dahdi that it isn't 
viewing that file.

If you unload all the drivers ('/etc/init.d/dahdi stop') and make sure 
they are unloaded ('lsmod | grep dahdi' should not show any output) then 
just load the wctdm driver ('modprobe wctdm'), and then what does dmesg 
show?

-- 
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Digium, Inc. | Linux Kernel Developer
445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - USA
Check us out at: www.digium.com  www.asterisk.org


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Re: [asterisk-users] Ast/Hyla/IAX Scalability?

2009-03-16 Thread Brent Davidson

David Backeberg wrote:

On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 12:00 AM, Steve Underwood ste...@coppice.org wrote:
  

Fully open-to-the-public FAX servers tend to get just get a lot of bad
calls, many of them wrong numbers, or voice users. FAX servers for



I've definitely seen that, and have been able to either identify the
validity of a caller by CID or by calling the number and confirming a
blast of fax tones.

  

clue what kind of failure rate might be expected. You can find a bit
more about these issues and our results at
http://www.soft-switch.org/spandsp-soft-fax-performance.html



After reading that, it occurred to me that I'm running SpanDSP 0.0.5
and 0.0.6 seems to have enhancements that may solve the problems I've
been seeing. I'm convinced that it's worth upgrading and seeing if I
can reduce my failure rate.

  

Your differing failure rates between using ReceiveFAX and using iaxmodem
seem to indicate your results relate to issues in your own system,



I think I wasn't very good at setting it up, as I had no experience
with IAX. Likely my fault rather than anything inherently wrong with
the software. There were more moving parts than I was able to get a
handle on, and when I switched to 1.6 and app_fax things 'just
worked'. This is why I keep recommending the 1.6 approach over the 1.4
+ IAX + IAXModem + Hylafax.

  

LANs don't loose packets), will have a true failure rate (i.e. a rate of
calls failing which had the potential to succeed) well below 1%. The



That's consistent with my testing before I set it live.

You mentioned recording faxes. I know how to do that with IAXModem,
but are you familiar with a method for 1.6 and app_fax? I read through
app_fax.c and didn't see any way to send a flag. Is the recording
built into SpanDSP, or is is something IAXModem added on themselves?

  
For what it's worth, the company I work for switched from WinFax to 
HylaFax last spring.  We only have 4 analog phone lines coming in to a 
4-port modem card, but the Hylafax system runs on the same server as our 
main Asterisk PBX.  So far Hylafax is performing much better than WinFax 
ever did.  When we have errors either sending or receiving, it is always 
either line problems or the wrong number being dialed resulting in a 
voice call to the fax line.


I would estimate that our overall success rate is around 95% if you 
disregard faxes to wrong numbers or incoming voice calls to the fax 
lines.  Load testing a large-scale fax system under real-world 
conditions is difficult if not impossible without having access to a 
variety of hardware and software fax devices scattered all over your 
prospective send or receive area.  If you load test from your own 
location by attaching a bunch of fax machines or a fax sending server to 
your outgoing lines and have them dial back in, then you're only looping 
through your local telco's switching center.  You might get very 
different results from sending faxes from out of state, or even across 
town.  It's been my experience that telephone line quality varies 
greatly from place to place and even from time to time.


A perfect example is from back in my days as a systems admin for a 
dial-up ISP.  We were operating in a small town where PRI or channelized 
T1's weren't available so we had a bank of about 100 US Robotics 
external modems connected with serial cables to 2 Livingston PortMaster 
terminal servers.  Everything would run fine (or as fine as it ever got 
with dial-up) until it decided to rain.  Everytime we'd get more than a 
tenth of an inch of rain a large group of the modems would go haywire 
and start dropping calls.  A couple of the modems would burn out 
completely.  We had the telco out repeatedly and they always gave us 
some answer that didn't make any sense.  After about the 6th time this 
happened they sent out a technician with a brand new line analyzer that 
happened to include a TDR.  The vast majority of the lines we were 
having trouble with showed to have a partial short about 100 feet from 
our building which just happened to be right under the middle of the 
road in front of our building.  They dug the section of line up and 
found that the cable had been partially cut at some point in the past 
and the wires were spliced with electrical tape and the whole bundle had 
then been wrapped with tape.  Every time it rained, the water would seep 
into the shoddy splice and short all the lines together.  When the water 
dried out, the shorts would go away and the lines would go back to normal.


I've seen situation like that enough to know that until everybody has a 
purely digital phone line, there will always be line quality problems 
that will be out of the end user's control.  Even though the company I 
work for now is a small company is a very rural area where technology is 
somewhat limited, we're beginning to realize just how antiquated Fax is 
becoming.  E-mail and web services are rapidly replacing fax to the 
point that 90% of 

Re: [asterisk-users] t38 iax trunk

2009-03-16 Thread David Backeberg
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 11:29 AM, David Backeberg dbackeb...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 6:05 AM, dubravko caric
 dubravko_ca...@yahoo.com wrote:
 fax - SIP ATA (T38 enabled) - Asterisk #1 - IAX TRUNK - Asterisk #2 -
 SIP ATA (T38 enabled) - fax

 My question is, how can I know if I'm really using T38? is T38 information
 coming to the other side (because of SIP to IAX conversion) or just plain
 g711a data?

${MYFULLPATH},${CALLERID(num)},${CALLERID(name)},${FAXSTATUS},${FAXERROR},${FAXMODE},${FAXPAGES},${REMOTESTATIONID}
 ${LOCALPATH}fax.log)
 exten = h,n,Hangup

Once you put that in place, the FAXMODE variable will tell you whether
the fax came through as T38 or voice.

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Re: [asterisk-users] A400P + Intel D201GLY2(A) motherboard?

2009-03-16 Thread Gordon Henderson
On Mon, 16 Mar 2009, Gilles wrote:

 Hello

 I'd like to build myself an Asterisk server for SOHO use. Intel's
 D201GLY2 motherboard (http://tinyurl.com/ddarzp) looks like a very
 good deal, but I'm concerned about two things:

 1. Will an A400P (from OpenVox, but supposed to be Digium-compatible
 http://tinyurl.com/ck6nfu) fit with a PCI riser, or will the CPU
 heatsink/fan be in the way? I downloaded the PDF from OpenVox's site,
 but didn't find the size of each PCI card

It depends on the riser and the case you use - if it extends out away from 
the board, you'll not have any issues, (pizza box type case) but if it 
doubles-back over the board (shuttle/cube type case) then there may not be 
enough headroom. (The fan/heatsink looks high, but can't really tell from 
the photos)

 2. Performance, especially if there's the need for software echo cancelling

Zero issues with it's performance for SOHO use IMO. I don't use that 
processor/board, but do use 1GHz VIA processors. Oslec works great on 
openvox cards.

Gordon


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Re: [asterisk-users] A400P + Intel D201GLY2(A) motherboard?

2009-03-16 Thread Paulo Santos
Gilles wrote:
 Hello
 
 I'd like to build myself an Asterisk server for SOHO use. Intel's 
 D201GLY2 motherboard (http://tinyurl.com/ddarzp) looks like a very 
 good deal, but I'm concerned about two things:
 
 1. Will an A400P (from OpenVox, but supposed to be Digium-compatible 
 http://tinyurl.com/ck6nfu) fit with a PCI riser, or will the CPU 
 heatsink/fan be in the way? I downloaded the PDF from OpenVox's site, 
 but didn't find the size of each PCI card
 
The card goes the other way, it doesn't go on top of the board. Well, at 
least there are risers going away from the board, I don't know if there 
are any going on top of it.

 2. Performance, especially if there's the need for software echo cancelling
 
I did some tests on it, not many. Without going higher than 2.0 load 
average I managed to do 10 calls per second, lasting 5 seconds each. 
During those 5 seconds, 2 sound files were played (sln). MySQL CDR was 
enabled, so that's also 10 DB writes/second.

I don't know exactly what board it was, but the processor was a Atom 
=2,2GHz. It had fan.

Two cards were used at the same time, one B400P and one A800, both Openvox.

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[asterisk-users] Busy on SIP

2009-03-16 Thread Marco Sambo
Hi,
I have a question. How can I configure my sip.conf to make a SIP phone busy
on incoming and outcoming calls? I explain my problem.
When SIP phone receive a call and then I try to call that phone, I find it
busy.
When SIP phone make a call and I try to call that phone, I find it avaible
and it rings but I want to find it busy.

I configure sip.conf like following:

[10]
type=friend
qualify=yes
host=dynamic
callgroup=0
pickupgroup=0
context=office
username=10
secret=1234
subscribecontext=BLF_group
limitonpeers=yes
call-limit=1
notifyringing=yes
dtmfmode=info


Someone can help me? I can't understand why I find it avaible when it makes
an outgoing call.

Thanks all

Marco
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Re: [asterisk-users] No hardware timing source found in /proc/dahdi

2009-03-16 Thread John Millican
Shaun Ruffell wrote:
 John Millican wrote:
 Well,
 lsmod | grep hisax returns nothing

 plain lsmod:
 Module  Size  Used by
 dahdi_dummy22472  0
 dahdi 215776  1 dahdi_dummy
 crc_ccitt  18944  1 dahdi
 af_packet  57100  2
 snd_pcm_oss67456  0
 snd_mixer_oss  34176  1 snd_pcm_oss
 snd_seq74992  0
 snd_seq_device 25620  1 snd_seq
 vmnet  72992  3
 parport_pc 58456  0
 parport56588  1 parport_pc
 vmmon 158908  0
 sunrpc198600  1
 iptable_filter 19840  0
 ip_tables  37848  1 iptable_filter
 ip6table_filter19584  0
 ip6_tables 31944  1 ip6table_filter
 x_tables   37000  2 ip_tables,ip6_tables
 ipv6  372344  29
 cpufreq_conservative24968  0
 cpufreq_userspace  23680  0
 cpufreq_powersave  18560  0
 powernow_k831504  0
 apparmor   58672  0
 loop   36356  0
 dm_mod 77152  0
 ohci1394   51272  0
 ieee1394  115800  1 ohci1394
 i2c_nforce222784  0
 snd_hda_intel 368804  0
 i2c_core   43648  1 i2c_nforce2
 snd_pcm   108680  2 snd_pcm_oss,snd_hda_intel
 snd_timer  42632  2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
 snd84984  7
 snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm,snd_timer
 k8temp 22656  0
 hwmon  20232  1 k8temp
 button 26400  0
 usblp  30976  0
 forcedeth  65416  0
 rtc_cmos   25016  0
 rtc_core   38156  1 rtc_cmos
 rtc_lib19968  1 rtc_core
 sr_mod 33444  0
 cdrom  52392  1 sr_mod
 usb_storage   102816  0
 soundcore  25360  1 snd
 snd_page_alloc 27280  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
 ide_core  165648  1 usb_storage
 sg 53304  0
 usbhid 58160  0
 hid43776  1 usbhid
 ff_memless 22536  1 usbhid
 sd_mod 45824  6
 ohci_hcd   38020  0
 ehci_hcd   50572  0
 usbcore   155560  6 usblp,usb_storage,usbhid,ohci_hcd,ehci_hcd
 edd26760  0
 ext3  156688  3
 mbcache26248  1 ext3
 jbd89192  1 ext3
 fan22792  0
 sata_nv38404  4
 pata_amd   31876  0
 libata164096  2 sata_nv,pata_amd
 scsi_mod  176536  5 sr_mod,usb_storage,sg,sd_mod,libata
 thermal34576  0
 processor  59592  2 powernow_k8,thermal
 
 
 Looking at the lsmod output, it appears that the wctdm module is not 
 loaded.  So either the /etc/dahdi/modules has the wctdm module commented 
 out, or something is wrong with the /etc/init.d/dahdi that it isn't 
 viewing that file.
 
 If you unload all the drivers ('/etc/init.d/dahdi stop') and make sure 
 they are unloaded ('lsmod | grep dahdi' should not show any output) then 
 just load the wctdm driver ('modprobe wctdm'), and then what does dmesg 
 show?
 
Well that did it.  I guess I will have to modify /etc/init.d/dahdi to
only modprobe wctdm for now and run with it.  wctdm was the only module
that was not commented out in /etc/dahdi/modules so it must be as you
said the /etc/init.d/dahdi was not reading the file as ity should.  I
will look into what is happening there.

dmessg output:
dahdi: Telephony Interface Unloaded
dahdi: Telephony Interface Registered on major 196
dahdi: Version: 2.1.0.4
Freshmaker version: 71
Freshmaker passed register test
Module 0: Installed -- AUTO FXS/DPO
Module 1: Installed -- AUTO FXS/DPO
Module 2: Installed -- AUTO FXO (FCC mode)
Module 3: Installed -- AUTO FXO (FCC mode)
Found a Wildcard TDM: Wildcard TDM400P REV E/F (4 modules)
dahdi_echocan_mg2: Registered echo canceler 'MG2'
dahdi: Registered tone zone 0 (United States / North America)

dahdi_cfg output:
DAHDI Tools Version - 2.1.0.2

DAHDI Version: 2.1.0.4
Echo Canceller(s): MG2
Configuration
==


Channel map:

Channel 01: FXO Kewlstart (Default) (Echo Canceler: mg2) (Slaves: 01)
Channel 02: FXO Kewlstart (Default) (Echo Canceler: mg2) (Slaves: 02)
Channel 03: FXS Kewlstart (Default) (Echo Canceler: mg2) (Slaves: 03)
Channel 04: FXS Kewlstart (Default) (Echo Canceler: mg2) (Slaves: 04)

4 channels to configure.

Changing signalling on channel 1 from Unused to FXO Kewlstart
Setting echocan for channel 1 to mg2
Changing signalling on channel 2 from Unused to FXO Kewlstart
Setting echocan for channel 2 to mg2
Changing signalling on channel 3 from Unused to FXS Kewlstart
Setting echocan for channel 3 to mg2
Changing signalling on channel 4 from Unused to FXS Kewlstart
Setting echocan for channel 4 to mg2

Thank you very much for your 

Re: [asterisk-users] Busy on SIP

2009-03-16 Thread Gordon Henderson
On Mon, 16 Mar 2009, Marco Sambo wrote:

 Hi,
 I have a question. How can I configure my sip.conf to make a SIP phone busy
 on incoming and outcoming calls? I explain my problem.
 When SIP phone receive a call and then I try to call that phone, I find it
 busy.
 When SIP phone make a call and I try to call that phone, I find it avaible
 and it rings but I want to find it busy.

Disable call-waiting inside the phone.

Gordon

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Re: [asterisk-users] A400P + Intel D201GLY2(A) motherboard?

2009-03-16 Thread Paulo Santos
Paulo Santos wrote:
 I managed to do 10 calls per second, lasting 5 seconds each. 

10 or 5, I can't remember...

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[asterisk-users] Aastra 9133i programmable buttons (* 4.1.23)

2009-03-16 Thread David Ruggles
Is it possible to control the light on a programmable button without the blf
option? I'm using a programmable button to turn call recording on and off
and I would like the light to indicate the status.

Thanks,

David Ruggles
CCNA MCSE (NT) CNA A+
Network EngineerSafe Data, Inc.
(910) 285-7200  da...@safedatausa.com



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[asterisk-users] SIP audio delay after call transfer?

2009-03-16 Thread Tony Mountifield
I have a customer with an Asterisk 1.4 system (r144238 - between 1.4.22-rc5
and 1.4.22 released). It uses SIP to connect to the PSTN via a provider who
is on the same LAN as the box (it is co-located at the provider). They also
have about 20 SIP phones as extensions that connect to the box over the
internet. sip show peers indicates that most phones have a latency of
90ms-100ms. The provider is at 1ms. All links use the digium G.729 codec.

They have reported that while call quality is normally very good, if a call
is transferred from one extension to another, the transferred call starts
to experience considerable audio latency. Transferring the call again also
increases this latency even more, such that the call is unusable.

My suspicion is that while performing the transfer, audio frames are building
up somewhere and not being flushed (lack of autoservice somewhere in the code?).

Has anyone else observed this behaviour? Even better, has anyone got a fix,
or knows of such an issue having been fixed in a later version?

This is a production system, so I can't easily try different versions to
experiment, but could justify the downtime to install a known solution.

Cheers
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Re: [asterisk-users] Busy on SIP

2009-03-16 Thread Olivier
2009/3/16 Gordon Henderson
gordon+aster...@drogon.netgordon%2baster...@drogon.net


 On Mon, 16 Mar 2009, Marco Sambo wrote:

  Hi,
  I have a question. How can I configure my sip.conf to make a SIP phone
 busy
  on incoming and outcoming calls? I explain my problem.
  When SIP phone receive a call and then I try to call that phone, I find
 it
  busy.
  When SIP phone make a call and I try to call that phone, I find it
 avaible
  and it rings but I want to find it busy.

 Disable call-waiting inside the phone.


Doesn't call-limit=1 force the same behaviour ?



 Gordon

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Re: [asterisk-users] url in dial command: how does it work?

2009-03-16 Thread Giorgio Incantalupo
Hi Tim,

I've made a test with 2 Asterisks and the 2 consoles showed me an HTML 
packet sent and one received. This does not work with the SIP protocol.
The idea was to understand what was it for (I suppose someone did it for 
some purpose...), then how to use it to improve our solution (es: open 
pop ups) but we use SIP phones which do not support that URL parameter. 
I know queuemetrics use it but I cannot undestand how since tha URL 
parameter is passed to the called party while queuemetrics reads the 
queues.log file.

BTW thanks for your time.

Giorgio

Tim Panton wrote:
 Oh sorry, I wasn't clear.
 The IAX protocol has a frame type for sending this URL info.
 Skype has an attribute for it.

 The intention is (I think) to be able to forward the URL for
 the customer (in the corporate CRM system)  to the agent
 answering a call on a softphone.

 Some of the IAX softphones support this.

 What were you planning to do with it.


 Tim.

 On 16 Mar 2009, at 13:04, Giorgio Incantalupo wrote:

 Hi Tim,

 ok, but I think the big question is...what is the URL for? It seems I
 need a special device...but which? What kind of device do you use?

 Thanks.

 Giorgio

 Tim Panton wrote:
 Use IAX :-)

 In principle chan_skype could also support it.

 T.

 On 16 Mar 2009, at 10:51, Giorgio Incantalupo wrote:

 Hi,

 Does anybody knows where I can find some docs about how to make the 
 URL
 parameter inside the Dial command work? I tried to make some tests 
 with
 a sip phone without success: the sip debug shows no URL inside sip
 packets. :(
 Any hint appreciated. :)

 Thank you

 Giorgio

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[asterisk-users] Could Asterisk be rewriting an incoming invite?

2009-03-16 Thread Chris Garrigues
I'm not getting inbound audio from bandwidth.com.  Their engineer said the
invite that they're sending me looks like this:

INVITE sip:+15129616...@67.198.16.18:5060;transport=udp SIP/2.0.
Record-Route: sip:216.82.224.202;lr;ftag=VPSF506071629460.
Record-Route: sip:4.79.212.229;lr;ftag=VPSF506071629460.
Via: SIP/2.0/UDP 216.82.224.202;branch=z9hG4bK6314.4f7b5d05.0.
Via: SIP/2.0/UDP 4.79.212.229;branch=z9hG4bK6314.15486fb6.0.
Via: SIP/2.0/UDP 4.68.250.148:5060;branch=z9hG4bK506071629460-1207516720501.
From: BANDWIDTH COM
sip:+19192282...@4.68.250.148sip%3a%2b19192282...@4.68.250.148
;tag=VPSF506071629460.
To: sip:+15129616...@4.79.212.229:5060.
Call-ID: houmgc0520090316161653037...@209.244.63.35.
CSeq: 1 INVITE.
Contact: sip:+19192282...@4.68.250.148:5060;transport=udp.
Max-Forwards: 67.
Content-Type: application/sdp.
Content-Length: 177.
Remote-Party-ID: BANDWIDTH COM
sip:+19192282...@4.68.250.148sip%3a%2b19192282...@4.68.250.148;party=calling
;screen=no;privacy=off.
.
v=0.
o=- 1237220213 1237220214 IN IP4 209.244.187.176.
s=-.
c=IN IP4 209.244.187.176.
t=0 0.
m=audio 60458 RTP/AVP 0 18 101.
a=rtpmap:101 telephone-event/8000.

but asterisk is reporting it like this:

INVITE sip:+15129616...@216.82.224.202:5060;transport=udp SIP/2.0
Record-Route: sip:216.82.224.202;lr;ftag=VPSF506071629460
Record-Route: sip:4.79.212.229;lr;ftag=VPSF506071629460
Via: SIP/2.0/UDP 216.82.224.202;branch=z9hG4bK6314.4f7b5d05.0
Via: SIP/2.0/UDP 4.79.212.229;branch=z9hG4bK6314.15486fb6.0
Via: SIP/2.0/UDP 4.68.250.148:5060;branch=z9hG4bK506071629460-1207516720501
From: BANDWIDTH COM
sip:+19192282...@4.68.250.148sip%3a%2b19192282...@4.68.250.148
;tag=VPSF506071629460
To: sip:+15129616...@4.79.212.229:5060
Call-ID: houmgc0520090316161653037...@209.244.63.35
CSeq: 1 INVITE
Contact: sip:+19192282...@4.68.250.148:5060;transport=udp
Max-Forwards: 67
Content-Type: application/sdp
Content-Length: 175
Remote-Party-ID: BANDWIDTH COM
sip:+19192282...@4.68.250.148sip%3a%2b19192282...@4.68.250.148
;party=calling;screen=no;privacy=off

v=0
o=- 1237220213 1237220214 IN IP4 216.82.224.202
s=-
c=IN IP4 216.82.224.202
t=0 0
m=audio 60458 RTP/AVP 0 18 101
a=rtpmap:101 telephone-event/8000
a=fmtp:101 0-15

as a result, I don't get incoming audio for obvious reasons.  Is there any
possibility that it's my asterisk configuration?  I'm having a bear of a
time getting to someone useful at my ISP, so I'm hoping to find that it's my
problem.
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Re: [asterisk-users] Aastra 9133i programmable buttons (* 4.1.23)

2009-03-16 Thread Steve Davies
2009/3/16 David Ruggles da...@safedatausa.com:
 Is it possible to control the light on a programmable button without the blf
 option? I'm using a programmable button to turn call recording on and off
 and I would like the light to indicate the status.

 Thanks,


9133i phones are pretty much obsolete, and are not getting firmware
updates, so I do not know whether Aastra ever put any of their XML
application control code into that model. If they did, then it should
be possible to respond with button status using XML updates from the
server, otherwise you'd need to upgrade to one of their currently
supported phones, which are almost certainly capable of this sort of
thing.

PS. I have never personally used the XML facility of Aastra phones,
but I hear quite good things about it.

Regards,
Steve

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Re: [asterisk-users] Could Asterisk be rewriting an incoming invite?

2009-03-16 Thread Chris Garrigues
I've just determined that it IS happening on my box, but why?
I did a packet capture using tcpdump on this very same box and it shows the
correct invite while sip debug shows the wrong values.  here's what I see in
wireshark:

No. TimeSourceDestination   Protocol
Info
  1 0.00216.82.224.20267.198.16.18  SIP/SDP
Request: INVITE sip:+15129616...@67.198.16.18:5060;transport=udp, with
session description

Frame 1 (1043 bytes on wire, 1043 bytes captured)
Ethernet II, Src: EciTelec_00:a0:41 (00:02:0e:00:a0:41), Dst: Intel_92:3b:be
(00:0c:f1:92:3b:be)
Internet Protocol, Src: 216.82.224.202 (216.82.224.202), Dst: 67.198.16.18
(67.198.16.18)
User Datagram Protocol, Src Port: sip (5060), Dst Port: sip (5060)
Session Initiation Protocol
Request-Line: INVITE sip:+15129616...@67.198.16.18:5060;transport=udp
SIP/2.0
Message Header
Message Body
Session Description Protocol
Session Description Protocol Version (v): 0
Owner/Creator, Session Id (o): - 1237225281 1237225282 IN IP4
209.244.187.171
Session Name (s): -
Connection Information (c): IN IP4 209.244.187.171
Time Description, active time (t): 0 0
Media Description, name and address (m): audio 60570 RTP/AVP 0
18 101
Media Attribute (a): rtpmap:101 telephone-event/8000
Media Attribute (a): fmtp:101 0-15

and here's what I see in sip debug:

INVITE sip:+15129616...@67.198.16.18:5060;transport=udp SIP/2.0
Record-Route: sip:216.82.224.202;lr;ftag=VPSF506071629460
Record-Route: sip:4.79.212.229;lr;ftag=VPSF506071629460
Via: SIP/2.0/UDP 216.82.224.202:5060;branch=z9hG4bK525.4ab0348.0
Via: SIP/2.0/UDP 4.79.212.229;branch=z9hG4bK525.3b6e7ab3.0
Via: SIP/2.0/UDP 4.68.250.148:5060;branch=z9hG4bK506071629460-1207517079314
From: GARRIGUES,CHRIS
sip:+15124990...@4.68.250.148sip%3a%2b15124990...@4.68.250.148
;isup-oli=0;tag=VPSF506071629460
To: sip:+15129616...@4.79.212.229:5060
Call-ID: houmgc0520090316174121064...@209.244.63.35
CSeq: 1 INVITE
Contact: sip:+15124990...@216.82.224.202:5060;transport=udp
Max-Forwards: 67
Content-Type: application/sdp
Content-Length: 175
Remote-Party-ID: GARRIGUES,CHRIS
sip:+15124990...@4.68.250.148sip%3a%2b15124990...@4.68.250.148
;party=calling;screen=yes;privacy=off

v=0
o=- 1237225281 1237225282 IN IP4 216.82.224.202
s=-
c=IN IP4 216.82.224.202
t=0 0
m=audio 60570 RTP/AVP 0 18 101
a=rtpmap:101 telephone-event/8000
a=fmtp:101 0-15


What is rewriting my o= and c=


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[asterisk-users] Help Inbound number

2009-03-16 Thread Bayardo Sanchez
i create inbound number but i calling and send this error:

[Mar 16 11:41:12] NOTICE[30847]: chan_sip.c:14383 handle_request_invite:
Call from '101396_procall' to extension '246463' rejected because
extension not found.

but the extensin existed

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Re: [asterisk-users] Help Inbound number

2009-03-16 Thread Pascal Bruno
Do you have an extension set for 246463 in your extensions.conf?





On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Bayardo Sanchez
bayardo.sanc...@gmail.comwrote:

 i create inbound number but i calling and send this error:

 [Mar 16 11:41:12] NOTICE[30847]: chan_sip.c:14383 handle_request_invite:
 Call from '101396_procall' to extension '246463' rejected because
 extension not found.

 but the extensin existed

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[asterisk-users] asterisk and ericsson e1 connection how to??

2009-03-16 Thread Oguzhan Kayhan
Hello,
I am trying to install my E1 card to make a conection with an Ericsson
MD-110 PBX.
I installed dahdi drivers as:
dahdi_hardware
pci::04:08.0 wcte12xp-d161:8000 Wildcard TE121
ran dahdi_genconf and it created all my e1 ports.
On the other side i also configured the pbx to communicate with TE121.
On ericsson side, i have no error messages.
On asterisk side, no error messages.
But when i try to create a dahdi trunk, and dial it from asterisk , no
call can be made.
and also, when i try to call from ericsson side, i get line busy message
as soon as i dial the number.

Is there any guide that can help me in installing that card?

PS: Whatever i made in SPAN config, everytime the only thing i see was
Internal clock on dahdi_tool .  How can i make my e1 card master (or slave
whatever) instead of internal clock??

and other thing i wonder,
if i create a span like span=1,0,0,ccs,hdb3  is it zap/g1 in
zaptel(dahdi) conf menu in asteriskgui???(or freepbx)




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[asterisk-users] Contact id protocol problem

2009-03-16 Thread Imanol Pardavila
Hi,
I'm using an Asterisk box with zap channel as a gateway between PSTN and 
an alarm receiver system. The alarm system uses Contact ID protocol.
My problem is that the negotiation fails and I think that the problem is 
that kissoff tone is cut and the transmitter doesn't recognize it. 
Maybe the asterisk tone duration isn't long enough.
I'm thinking about increasing the toneduration value in zapata.conf. 
or changind DTMF tone frecuency.
Does anyone deal with a similar problem? What are the optimal values?
Thanks
Regards


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Re: [asterisk-users] Help Inbound number

2009-03-16 Thread Bayardo Sanchez
in my extension.conf  i set :

[default]
exten = 1246463,1,Answer(SIP/8003)


On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Pascal Bruno tipas...@gmail.com wrote:

 Do you have an extension set for 246463 in your extensions.conf?





 On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Bayardo Sanchez 
 bayardo.sanc...@gmail.com wrote:

 i create inbound number but i calling and send this error:

 [Mar 16 11:41:12] NOTICE[30847]: chan_sip.c:14383 handle_request_invite:
 Call from '101396_procall' to extension '246463' rejected because
 extension not found.

 but the extensin existed

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Re: [asterisk-users] asterisk and ericsson e1 connection how to??

2009-03-16 Thread Tim Panton

You should be able to get support from the people who sold you the card.

You need to configure 2 files (I'm looking at an old system, so they  
have

the zaptel style names).

My files are below - the thing to note is the span 1,1,0,
the second 1 tells you that the span is a timing source, externally  
clocked.


Depending on the mode that your Ericsson is in, you may need to
change signalling=pri_cpe to signalling=pri_net

/etc/asterisk/zapata.conf:

; Configuration file
[channels]
;
; Default language
;
language=en
context=ntl
switchtype=euroisdn
pridialplan=unknown
prilocaldialplan=unknown
signalling=pri_cpe
usecallerid=yes
hidecallerid=no
usecallingpres=yes
callwaitingcallerid=yes
threewaycalling=yes
transfer=yes
cancallforward=yes
callreturn=yes
group=1
callgroup=1
pickupgroup=1
;echocancel=256
;channel = 1-6
channel = 1-15,17-31

and /etc/zaptel.conf :

span=1,1,0,ccs,hdb3
bchan=1-15
dchan=16
bchan=17-31
loadzone = uk


On 16 Mar 2009, at 18:11, Oguzhan Kayhan wrote:


Hello,
I am trying to install my E1 card to make a conection with an Ericsson
MD-110 PBX.
I installed dahdi drivers as:
dahdi_hardware
pci::04:08.0 wcte12xp-d161:8000 Wildcard TE121
ran dahdi_genconf and it created all my e1 ports.
On the other side i also configured the pbx to communicate with TE121.
On ericsson side, i have no error messages.
On asterisk side, no error messages.
But when i try to create a dahdi trunk, and dial it from asterisk , no
call can be made.
and also, when i try to call from ericsson side, i get line busy  
message

as soon as i dial the number.

Is there any guide that can help me in installing that card?

PS: Whatever i made in SPAN config, everytime the only thing i see was
Internal clock on dahdi_tool .  How can i make my e1 card master (or  
slave

whatever) instead of internal clock??

and other thing i wonder,
if i create a span like span=1,0,0,ccs,hdb3  is it zap/g1 in
zaptel(dahdi) conf menu in asteriskgui???(or freepbx)




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Re: [asterisk-users] Help Inbound number

2009-03-16 Thread Steve Edwards
On Mon, 16 Mar 2009, Bayardo Sanchez wrote:

 [Mar 16 11:41:12] NOTICE[30847]: chan_sip.c:14383 handle_request_invite: 
 Call from '101396_procall' to extension '246463' rejected because 
 extension not found.

 but the extensin existed

I run 1.2 so the command syntax may be different...

1) Enter sip show users to list your users.

2) Note the Def.Context for the user you are receiving this call from.

3) Enter show dialplan context where context is the context from the 
preceding step.

Thanks in advance,

Steve Edwards  sedwa...@sedwards.com  Voice: +1-760-468-3867 PST
Newline Fax: +1-760-731-3000

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Re: [asterisk-users] Busy on SIP

2009-03-16 Thread Gordon Henderson
On Mon, 16 Mar 2009, Olivier wrote:

 2009/3/16 Gordon Henderson
 gordon+aster...@drogon.netgordon%2baster...@drogon.net


 On Mon, 16 Mar 2009, Marco Sambo wrote:

 Hi,
 I have a question. How can I configure my sip.conf to make a SIP phone
 busy
 on incoming and outcoming calls? I explain my problem.
 When SIP phone receive a call and then I try to call that phone, I find
 it
 busy.
 When SIP phone make a call and I try to call that phone, I find it
 avaible
 and it rings but I want to find it busy.

 Disable call-waiting inside the phone.

 Doesn't call-limit=1 force the same behaviour ?

It appears to limmit the number of outgoing calls from that phone and 
independantly the number of inoming calls.

So a phone can make an outgoing call, and still take an incoming call, and 
vice-versa, with call-limit=1

I also found early versions of this buggy in that it didn't seem to 
properly decrement the counter on hang-up, so is call-limit was set to 3, 
then that phone could only take 3 calls, one after the other, before it 
would be premenantly busyd, but this was a long time back, and it might 
have been something I was foing, but since then I always turned 
call-waiting off on the phones when users didn't want multiple call 
features.

Gordon


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Re: [asterisk-users] Help Inbound number

2009-03-16 Thread Steve Edwards
 On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Bayardo Sanchez 
 bayardo.sanc...@gmail.com wrote:

 [Mar 16 11:41:12] NOTICE[30847]: chan_sip.c:14383 handle_request_invite:
 Call from '101396_procall' to extension '246463' rejected because
 extension not found.

On Mon, 16 Mar 2009, Bayardo Sanchez wrote:

 [default]
 exten = 1246463,1,Answer(SIP/8003)

246463 != 1246463

Thanks in advance,

Steve Edwards  sedwa...@sedwards.com  Voice: +1-760-468-3867 PST
Newline Fax: +1-760-731-3000

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Re: [asterisk-users] Help Inbound number

2009-03-16 Thread Brent Davidson

1246463 is not the same as 246463.  Note the missing 1

If you want to match what is being dialed then your extensions.conf 
should look like this:


[default]
exten = 246463,1,Answer(SIP/8003)


Bayardo Sanchez wrote:

in my extension.conf  i set :

[default]
exten = 1246463,1,Answer(SIP/8003)


On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Pascal Bruno tipas...@gmail.com 
mailto:tipas...@gmail.com wrote:


Do you have an extension set for 246463 in your extensions.conf?
 
 



 
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Bayardo Sanchez

bayardo.sanc...@gmail.com mailto:bayardo.sanc...@gmail.com wrote:

i create inbound number but i calling and send this error:

[Mar 16 11:41:12] NOTICE[30847]: chan_sip.c:14383
handle_request_invite: Call from '101396_procall' to extension
'246463' rejected because extension not found.

but the extensin existed

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[asterisk-users] ATA react to phone but unresponsive to fax modem

2009-03-16 Thread Olivier
Hi,

I'm rather new to this domain so I may be doing stupid things without being
concious of that.

I've got a Patton MATA I'm trying to setup as T.38 fax adapter.
Whenever I connect a fax machine (Dell MFP1815dn) or a phone to it, I can
successfully send a fax or talk to the other end.

Whenever I connect a fax modem (Dell Inspiron 6400 laptop), I keep getting
No signal. Line is busy or disconnect from Windows XP fax application.
Whatching SIP trafic from this Patton MATA, I can see no single SIP is
leaving the box so I'm certain issue relates to analog line settings but I'm
mostly lost with things like Ring Polarity, Ring settings and so on.

I tried to mimic settings from an SPA3102 with which I can either fax from
fax machine or fax application but I'm unsuccessful at the moment.


1. Can you explain what is going on ?
2 What would you say reading this :
Ring waveform:  trapezoid
Ring frequency: 20
Ring voltage: 85
FXS input gain: -6
FXS output gain: -6
(I copied those values from SPA3102 into MATA)

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Re: [asterisk-users] Help Inbound number

2009-03-16 Thread Geraint Lee
are you sure calls from this provider are going to context 'default' ?

sip.conf
[procall]
type=peer
username=XX
secret=XX
context=default

2009/3/16 Bayardo Sanchez bayardo.sanc...@gmail.com

 i create inbound number but i calling and send this error:

 [Mar 16 11:41:12] NOTICE[30847]: chan_sip.c:14383 handle_request_invite:
 Call from '101396_procall' to extension '246463' rejected because
 extension not found.

 but the extensin existed

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 Support - Proxi Support
 E-mail: bayardo.sanc...@gmail.com
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Re: [asterisk-users] Help Inbound number

2009-03-16 Thread Doug Lytle
Bayardo Sanchez wrote:
 in my extension.conf  i set :

 [default]
 exten = 1246463,1,Answer(SIP/8003)

This should be:

exten = 246463,1,Dial(SIP/8003)


Doug


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Re: [asterisk-users] Ast/Hyla/IAX Scalability?

2009-03-16 Thread VB
If you using cisco why don't you use fax on/off ramp it works quite well.
Then you can do with the fax file whatever you want.

From other point of view I did connected 1.6.0.6 with spandsp-0.0.5 to PRI
and receivefax seems to be working ok. The connect speed is low somewhere
between 2400-9600 but it seems to be working.
Actually I was able to receive international fax. Of course with some
failures :-)

If you want to use T38 in asterisk over ip with ata I didn't have too much
luck with it. May be it would worked better on LAN. I switched to cisco or
other hardware and it worked ok.

Vladimir
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Underwood
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 10:00 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Ast/Hyla/IAX Scalability?

David Backeberg wrote:
 On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 2:30 PM, Marshall Henderson
 marshall...@gmail.com wrote:
   
 On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 11:07 AM, David Backeberg dbackeb...@gmail.com
wrote:
 
 Again, you'll find people arguing that their voip solution has as low
 of a failure rate as a hardware solution. I'm jealous. My voip fax
 solution does not yet have that low of a failure rate, but I'm
 hopefully getting closer to working out the last bugs.

   
 Do you have any specifics to share about the problems you're finding?
 

 Sure. I can't disagree with the poster who said that problems they've
 seen are really the other side's fault. But assigning blame doesn't
 make me any happier. I have fax receiving problems I can't reproduce.
 When I load test it, I don't have problems. When I send 'real' inbound
 faxes from outside the network, over the real phone system, I don't
 have problems.

 I'm in New Haven, CT. One sender that messes up the most is in Kansas
 City, KS. They are a legitimate client, really sending a fax. I get
 occasional fax receipts that say:

 'The call dropped prematurely'

 There will sometimes be a cluster of these, followed by a successful
receipt.

 When I load tested, and send from real fax machines out and back in on
 POTS, I get 100% success. I've successfully load-tested around 175
 simultaneous inbound faxes. I slowed down the simulation to about 5
 simultaneous faxes, and left that running over a long weekend,
 generating something like 30,000 faxes and something like 1GB of
 received fax files. Again, the success rate was 100%. A problem with
 my simulation was that I used sending faxes that speak the protocol
 correctly. Does anybody have some faxes that send garbage?

 Then I put it into production with a limited amount of real fax
 traffic for our clients. I'm talking fewer than 10 calls per day most
 days. But it seems like the reality of the speed of light over
 continental long-distance, combined with the reality of crappy fax
 machines that don't speak protocols correctly result in occasional
 failures. I've made some adjustments that I think anecdotally have
 solved the silly problems, but that one with the faxes dropping early
 is the one that (maybe) hasn't gone away.

 I'd like a success rate around 99%. I'm getting around 63% if you
 count individual failed calls that eventually result in a success. I
 can't tell if I'm having bad luck with this phase of my pilot or if my
 failure rate is going to remain constant as I add clients. I need more
 data points to get statistical significance. What I really need is a
 failing fax I can control, then tune parameters on my side, and see if
 the failure rate gets worse or better. Seriously considering breaking
 down and asking for the cooperation of the client in that endeavor.

 People who have been following my posts on this topic know that I'm using:
 PRI(s) - Cisco voip gateway hardware - T.38 / SIP / g711 -
 Asterisk-1.6 with ReceiveFax (depends on SpanDSP, but does NOT use IAX
 or IAXmodem)

 What I've been 'tuning' most recently have been arguments to the Cisco
 setup fax and SIP translation.

 I did try out IAXModem with Hylafax and 1.4 and had lots of problems
 that all went away when I switched to using the approach I use now. I
 never tried 1.6 with IAXModem and Hylafax, so I can't tell you how
 well they work together.
   
Fully open-to-the-public FAX servers tend to get just get a lot of bad 
calls, many of them wrong numbers, or voice users. FAX servers for 
closed user groups tend to get few bad calls, unless the phone number 
gets included on some unfortunate list. This is one of the things which 
made early real world testing of spandsp and iaxmodem tough. We have to 
capture every failure, and analyse them by hand whether it was our fault 
or the far end's. Without knowing the nature of your system I have no 
clue what kind of failure rate might be expected. You can find a bit 
more about these issues and our results at 
http://www.soft-switch.org/spandsp-soft-fax-performance.html

Your differing failure 

Re: [asterisk-users] work around the 64 pickupgroups limit

2009-03-16 Thread Doug
At 22:22 3/13/2009, Matt Riddell wrote:
 On 14/03/2009 10:29 a.m., Doug wrote:
  At 16:10 3/10/2009, Matt Riddell wrote:
On 7/03/2009 4:58 a.m., Klaus Darilion wrote:
  Hi!

  What are the typical ways to work around the 64 groups limit?

What we actually do is store a pickup group with a caller id.

So the AsteriskDB has ${DB/pickup/${CALLERID(num)}} and we set
pickupmark to the same.

That way when someone dials 29 (what we use for pickup) it just checks
that group - no limitations on number of groups that way.
 
  Hey Matt,
 
  Would share some config file code with us?


Hi Matt,

This looks great!  A few questions...
 
 in the standard extension macro we add a line:

Is this in extensions.conf?

 
 exten = s,n,Set(_PICKUPMARK=${DB(pickupgroup/${ARG1})})
 
 Where ARG1 is the extension about to be called (i.e. 201)
 
 When someone dials 29 to pickup:
 
 exten = 29,1,Pickup(${DB(pickupgroup/${CALLERID(number)})}...@pickupmark)

Would this also be in extensions.conf?

 
 So to make extension 201 in pickup group 1 just do:
 
 asterisk -rx 'database put pickupgroup 201 1'

So this is a command line argument.  Can this
be automated?  Whenever we do a reload, can
this be stored?




 
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[asterisk-users] Asterisk is not designed for University with large user base?

2009-03-16 Thread Vincent Li

Hello,

I just had a meeting about a pilot project going on in our University, The 
project manager has done some research in the past year and concluded that 
Asterisk can not scale well to large user base like 10,000 users, thus
Asterisk is not fit for large University environment.

The project manager instead choosed sipX and said it scales well for large user 
base.

I had an Asterisk running in my office for small user base, I don't 
have experience with large scale Asterisk implementation. I know little 
about sipX.

Does anyone in the community has any input about this?

Vincent Li
System Administrator
BRC,UBC
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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk is not designed for University with largeuser base?

2009-03-16 Thread Danny Nicholas
Sounds like a personal preference to me.  Here is the Wiki for SipX.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SipX

Reading this, it's just another flavor of the same medicine.  Both are
open-source with Commercial support available.

In the 3 month's I've been reading this forum, there have been discussions
of installations that are at least equivalent to a 10K user university.

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To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk is not designed for University with
largeuser base?


Hello,

I just had a meeting about a pilot project going on in our University, The 
project manager has done some research in the past year and concluded that 
Asterisk can not scale well to large user base like 10,000 users, thus
Asterisk is not fit for large University environment.

The project manager instead choosed sipX and said it scales well for large
user base.

I had an Asterisk running in my office for small user base, I don't 
have experience with large scale Asterisk implementation. I know little 
about sipX.

Does anyone in the community has any input about this?

Vincent Li
System Administrator
BRC,UBC
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-e'print\131e\164\040\101n\157t\150e\162\040\114i\156u\170\040\107e\145k\01
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Re: [asterisk-users] Help Inbound number

2009-03-16 Thread Bayardo Sanchez
nothing the problem persitem

On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Geraint Lee gera...@gmail.com wrote:

 are you sure calls from this provider are going to context 'default' ?

 sip.conf
 [procall]
 type=peer
 username=XX
 secret=XX
 context=default

 2009/3/16 Bayardo Sanchez bayardo.sanc...@gmail.com

 i create inbound number but i calling and send this error:

 [Mar 16 11:41:12] NOTICE[30847]: chan_sip.c:14383 handle_request_invite:
 Call from '101396_procall' to extension '246463' rejected because
 extension not found.

 but the extensin existed

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Re: [asterisk-users] Help Inbound number

2009-03-16 Thread Danny Nicholas
Just to read this right – you are trying to take an inbound call from
888xxx and transfer it to your sip extension 8003?

 

If so, 

Are you able to make internal calls to 8003?

Can you transfer other calls to 8003 (exten = s,1,Dial(SIP/8003)  )
?

 

  _  

From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Bayardo
Sanchez
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 4:38 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Help Inbound number

 

nothing the problem persitem

On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Geraint Lee gera...@gmail.com wrote:

are you sure calls from this provider are going to context 'default' ?

sip.conf
[procall]
type=peer
username=XX
secret=XX
context=default

2009/3/16 Bayardo Sanchez bayardo.sanc...@gmail.com

i create inbound number but i calling and send this error:

[Mar 16 11:41:12] NOTICE[30847]: chan_sip.c:14383 handle_request_invite:
Call from '101396_procall' to extension '246463' rejected because
extension not found.

but the extensin existed

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[asterisk-users] T.38 - Which endpoint shall reINVITE ? caller or callee ?

2009-03-16 Thread Olivier
Hi,

I've been playing with T.38.

I observed that mostly but not always, it's the calling endpoint that
reINVITE the other party to drop current SIP/G711 session and start a new
T.38.
But sometimes, it's also the callee party that reINVITE the calling party.

Which is the standardized or most common, way to start a T.38 session ?
Shall it come from callee or from caller ?

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Re: [asterisk-users] Help Inbound number

2009-03-16 Thread Bayardo Sanchez
The inbound was working well suddenly stopped working I want all calls made
to the number  should answer the extension 8003

On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Danny Nicholas da...@debsinc.com wrote:

  Just to read this right – you are trying to take an inbound call from
 888xxx and transfer it to your sip extension 8003?



 If so,

 Are you able to make internal calls to 8003?

 Can you transfer other calls to 8003 (exten = s,1,Dial(SIP/8003)
 ) ?


  --

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 asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] *On Behalf Of *Bayardo Sanchez
 *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2009 4:38 PM
 *To:* Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 *Subject:* Re: [asterisk-users] Help Inbound number



 nothing the problem persitem

 On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Geraint Lee gera...@gmail.com wrote:

 are you sure calls from this provider are going to context 'default' ?

 sip.conf
 [procall]
 type=peer
 username=XX
 secret=XX
 context=default

 2009/3/16 Bayardo Sanchez bayardo.sanc...@gmail.com

 i create inbound number but i calling and send this error:

 [Mar 16 11:41:12] NOTICE[30847]: chan_sip.c:14383 handle_request_invite:
 Call from '101396_procall' to extension '246463' rejected because
 extension not found.

 but the extensin existed

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 Support - Proxi Support
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[asterisk-users] Good phone near $125

2009-03-16 Thread David Ruggles
I was looking at the aastra 9133i, however I was informed that this phone is
no longer supported. What are good phones around the $100 - $125 price
point? (Need POE)

Thanks,

David Ruggles
CCNA MCSE (NT) CNA A+
Network EngineerSafe Data, Inc.
(910) 285-7200  da...@safedatausa.com



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Re: [asterisk-users] Good phone near $125

2009-03-16 Thread Singer XJ Wang

Mmm, $100-$125 What? USD? CAD? AUD?

If you're willing to a little bit more, I'll strongly recommend Polycom 
IP 430. We're using them and they
are absolutely painless (well, except the initial package of 100 of 
those which were heavy and caused

some back pain ;p)


Singer

David Ruggles wrote:

I was looking at the aastra 9133i, however I was informed that this phone is
no longer supported. What are good phones around the $100 - $125 price
point? (Need POE)

Thanks,

David Ruggles
CCNA MCSE (NT) CNA A+
Network EngineerSafe Data, Inc.
(910) 285-7200  da...@safedatausa.com



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Re: [asterisk-users] Help Inbound number

2009-03-16 Thread Pascal Bruno
Your sip.conf should look like this
sip.conf
[procall]
type=peer
username=XX
secret=XX
context=default

and extensions.conf

[default]
exten = 246463,1,Dial(SIP/8003)

you must also have a sip user for 8003 in your sip.conf like
[8003]
type=friend
username=XX
secret=XX
context=outgoing

And dont forget to do a sip reload and dialplan reload



On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 6:23 PM, Bayardo Sanchez
bayardo.sanc...@gmail.comwrote:

 The inbound was working well suddenly stopped working I want all calls made
 to the number  should answer the extension 8003


 On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Danny Nicholas da...@debsinc.com wrote:

  Just to read this right – you are trying to take an inbound call from
 888xxx and transfer it to your sip extension 8003?



 If so,

 Are you able to make internal calls to 8003?

 Can you transfer other calls to 8003 (exten = s,1,Dial(SIP/8003)
 ) ?


  --

 *From:* asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:
 asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] *On Behalf Of *Bayardo Sanchez
 *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2009 4:38 PM
 *To:* Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 *Subject:* Re: [asterisk-users] Help Inbound number



 nothing the problem persitem

 On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Geraint Lee gera...@gmail.com wrote:

 are you sure calls from this provider are going to context 'default' ?

 sip.conf
 [procall]
 type=peer
 username=XX
 secret=XX
 context=default

 2009/3/16 Bayardo Sanchez bayardo.sanc...@gmail.com

 i create inbound number but i calling and send this error:

 [Mar 16 11:41:12] NOTICE[30847]: chan_sip.c:14383 handle_request_invite:
 Call from '101396_procall' to extension '246463' rejected because
 extension not found.

 but the extensin existed

 --
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 Web Developer - Internet Portals - Asterisk Support - Windows Server
 Support - Proxi Support
 E-mail: bayardo.sanc...@gmail.com
 Linux User: #418392
 America Central - Managua, NI (505) 249-2853 -  4886876
 IM msn messenger: bjsanch...@hotmail.com
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Re: [asterisk-users] Good phone near $125

2009-03-16 Thread Cary Fitch
We have used SNOM 360s, @ about $200, but just tried some Grandstream
GXP2000.  I like the 360s but the Grandstream is only $79.00, has four
lines, good speaker phone,  and will use a $10 cell headset.

YMMV.  But it works, and the price is right.

Cary Fitch





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[mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of David Ruggles
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 5:25 PM
To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'
Subject: [asterisk-users] Good phone near $125

I was looking at the aastra 9133i, however I was informed that this phone is
no longer supported. What are good phones around the $100 - $125 price
point? (Need POE)

Thanks,

David Ruggles
CCNA MCSE (NT) CNA A+
Network EngineerSafe Data, Inc.
(910) 285-7200  da...@safedatausa.com



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[asterisk-users] T1 problem (call using a .call file)

2009-03-16 Thread Pascal Bruno
I have a weird problem with call using my T1 card.  I can make calls fine
using my analog and IP phones, but when I try to initiate a call using a
.call file, I get the following error
 -- Attempting call on DAHDI/g1/1XX for s...@test:1 (Retry 1)
-- Requested transfer capability: 0x00 - SPEECH
-- PROGRESS with cause code 127 received

it happens on certain numbers I dial, but if I dial that same number with an
ip or analog phone that use the T1 channel, the call is going through
normally.

Anybody knows why?

My call file looks like this:

Channel: DAHDI/g1/1XX
Callerid: XX
MaxRetries: 1
RetryTime: 5
WaitTime: 60
Context: test
Extension: s
Priority: 1
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[asterisk-users] Uptime for documentation only

2009-03-16 Thread C F
I know there has been better uptime than this reported, but I figured
I'll share it anyhow:
@pbx:~# uptime
 18:39:07 up 621 days,  9:40,  2 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00

pbx:~# cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor   : 0
vendor_id   : CentaurHauls
cpu family  : 6
model   : 10
model name  : VIA Esther processor 1200MHz
stepping: 9
cpu MHz : 1197.305
cache size  : 128 KB
fdiv_bug: no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug: no
coma_bug: no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge
cmov pat clflush acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 tm pni est tm2 rng rng_en ace
ace_en
bogomips: 2398.50

pbx:~# cat /proc/meminfo
MemTotal:   905744 kB
MemFree:447660 kB
Buffers: 3 kB
Cached: 201616 kB
SwapCached:  0 kB
Active: 259584 kB
Inactive:   101876 kB
HighTotal:   0 kB
HighFree:0 kB
LowTotal:   905744 kB
LowFree:447660 kB
SwapTotal:   0 kB
SwapFree:0 kB
Dirty: 128 kB
Writeback:   0 kB
Mapped: 137844 kB
Slab:94404 kB
CommitLimit:452872 kB
Committed_AS:   153068 kB
PageTables:536 kB
VmallocTotal:   122840 kB
VmallocUsed:   320 kB
VmallocChunk:   122176 kB


In addition it has a 4GB Flash IDE HDD and a Digium Single Span T1
Card connected to an Adit 600.
Running around 15 extensions a mix of Polycom 501s 3 Linksys SPA-94x
and one Aastra 480i (I hate that last one).

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[asterisk-users] Asterisk 1.4.24 Now Available!

2009-03-16 Thread Asterisk Development Team
The Asterisk Development Team is proud to announce release of Asterisk 1.4.24,
and is available for immediate download at http://downloads.digium.com/

In addition to other bug fixes, this release candidate fixes several crash
issues, and resolved some remaining issues related to call pickup and call
parking that were discovered after the release of Asterisk 1.4.23. In addition,
issues related to chan_iax2, and regressions introduced to the 'h' extension
have been resolved.

This release marks the first inclusion of the release summary files which will
be included in all future releases. The purpose is to give a clearer overview
of the changes that have taken place between the current and previous release,
which issues have been closed, and which community members were involved with
issue submission, code commits, and issue testing. Additionally, a diffstat at
the end of the file shows at a brief glance the number of changes made to
files between the previous and current releases.

For a summary of the changes in this release, please see the release summary:

http://svn.digium.com/view/asterisk/tags/1.4.24/asterisk-1.4.24-summary.html?view=co

For a full list of changes in this release, please see the ChangeLog:

http://svn.digium.com/view/asterisk/tags/1.4.24/ChangeLog?view=co

The following list of bugs were resolved with the participation of the
community, and this release would not have been possible without your help!

* Paging application crashes asterisk
- Closes issue #14308. Submitted by bluefox. Tested by kc0bvu. Patched by
   seanbright.

* Crash in VoiceMailMain if hangup occurs before a valid mailbox number is
   entered (IMAP only)
- Closes issue #14473. Submitted by, and patch provided by dwpaul.

* Incoming Gtalk calls fail
- Closes issue #13984. Submitted by, tested, and patched by jcovert.

* Realtime peers are never qualified after 'sip reload'
- Closes issue #14196. Submitted by, tested, and patched by pdf.

* SIP Attended Transfer fails
- Closes issue 14611. Submitted by, tested, and patched by klaus3000.


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Re: [asterisk-users] Good phone near $125

2009-03-16 Thread C F
Polycom

On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 6:24 PM, David Ruggles da...@safedatausa.com wrote:
 I was looking at the aastra 9133i, however I was informed that this phone is
 no longer supported. What are good phones around the $100 - $125 price
 point? (Need POE)

 Thanks,

 David Ruggles
 CCNA MCSE (NT) CNA A+
 Network EngineerSafe Data, Inc.
 (910) 285-7200  da...@safedatausa.com



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Re: [asterisk-users] Best way to get 60+ analogue extensions.

2009-03-16 Thread C F
Channel Banks would be the way I would do it.

On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 3:12 AM, Duncan Turnbull dun...@e-simple.co.nz wrote:
 Hi All

 I am looking at a replacement for a hotel PBX which requires at least 60
 analogue extensions.

 I tend to use Sangoma equipment but haven't tried this many analogue
 extensions before. I am interested in anyone's experience of which
 server platform literally fits and copes well with multiple cards, and
 the choice of Digium vs Sangoma or something else.

 I can see the Digium AEX2400 with 24 lines, physically they are all very
 deep, if I had 3 of these in a server it would seem straight forward
 assuming the motherboard doesn't haven't anything get in the way
 Equally the Digium TDM2400P supports 24 lines and physically requires
 similar space

 The Sangoma A400 provides 24 ports but uses two slots, having 3 of these
 in a server looks like I need to pick the server carefully.

 I may need an ISDN PRA inbound but am working hard to have the inbound
 lines via SIP, but if I do that means at least 4 slots on this plan.

 I am just interested in any recommendations for server hardware and card
 combinations that are currently in use.

 Also if anyone has provided call data out to the RMS system (
 http://www.rms-global.com/Our-Products/RMS-Hotel/ ) I would be keen to
 hear how it worked.

 Thanks very much

 Cheers Duncan

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Re: [asterisk-users] Good phone near $125

2009-03-16 Thread SIP
David Ruggles wrote:
 I was looking at the aastra 9133i, however I was informed that this phone is
 no longer supported. What are good phones around the $100 - $125 price
 point? (Need POE)

 Thanks,

 David Ruggles
 CCNA MCSE (NT) CNA A+
 Network Engineer  Safe Data, Inc.
 (910) 285-7200da...@safedatausa.com


   

I believe SNOM 300s do PoE (might have to check that, though) and are 
around $100. We've little experience with them, but we use an office 
full of Snom 320s, and we're nothing but pleased with them. Good 
speaker, good handset, lots of excellent options. And reasonably priced.

N.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Best way to get 60+ analogue extensions.

2009-03-16 Thread Alex Balashov

I'll second that.

On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 18:48:10 -0400, C F shma...@gmail.com wrote:
 Channel Banks would be the way I would do it.
 
 On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 3:12 AM, Duncan Turnbull dun...@e-simple.co.nz
 wrote:
 Hi All

 I am looking at a replacement for a hotel PBX which requires at least 60
 analogue extensions.

 I tend to use Sangoma equipment but haven't tried this many analogue
 extensions before. I am interested in anyone's experience of which
 server platform literally fits and copes well with multiple cards, and
 the choice of Digium vs Sangoma or something else.

 I can see the Digium AEX2400 with 24 lines, physically they are all very
 deep, if I had 3 of these in a server it would seem straight forward
 assuming the motherboard doesn't haven't anything get in the way
 Equally the Digium TDM2400P supports 24 lines and physically requires
 similar space

 The Sangoma A400 provides 24 ports but uses two slots, having 3 of these
 in a server looks like I need to pick the server carefully.

 I may need an ISDN PRA inbound but am working hard to have the inbound
 lines via SIP, but if I do that means at least 4 slots on this plan.

 I am just interested in any recommendations for server hardware and card
 combinations that are currently in use.

 Also if anyone has provided call data out to the RMS system (
 http://www.rms-global.com/Our-Products/RMS-Hotel/ ) I would be keen to
 hear how it worked.

 Thanks very much

 Cheers Duncan

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Re: [asterisk-users] Best way to get 60+ analogue extensions.

2009-03-16 Thread Alex Balashov

I don't know how good Asterisk's GR.303 support, but you could use DLCs as
well.  However, that's a lot of complexity and (seemingly) immature
functionality liability to achieve the same end you'd get with a channel
bank.  The only benefit is that DLCs are specifically for oversubscription,
whereas on PRIs you'd be doing one timeslot per one POTS line on the trunk
side.

On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 18:48:10 -0400, C F shma...@gmail.com wrote:
 Channel Banks would be the way I would do it.
 
 On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 3:12 AM, Duncan Turnbull dun...@e-simple.co.nz
 wrote:
 Hi All

 I am looking at a replacement for a hotel PBX which requires at least 60
 analogue extensions.

 I tend to use Sangoma equipment but haven't tried this many analogue
 extensions before. I am interested in anyone's experience of which
 server platform literally fits and copes well with multiple cards, and
 the choice of Digium vs Sangoma or something else.

 I can see the Digium AEX2400 with 24 lines, physically they are all very
 deep, if I had 3 of these in a server it would seem straight forward
 assuming the motherboard doesn't haven't anything get in the way
 Equally the Digium TDM2400P supports 24 lines and physically requires
 similar space

 The Sangoma A400 provides 24 ports but uses two slots, having 3 of these
 in a server looks like I need to pick the server carefully.

 I may need an ISDN PRA inbound but am working hard to have the inbound
 lines via SIP, but if I do that means at least 4 slots on this plan.

 I am just interested in any recommendations for server hardware and card
 combinations that are currently in use.

 Also if anyone has provided call data out to the RMS system (
 http://www.rms-global.com/Our-Products/RMS-Hotel/ ) I would be keen to
 hear how it worked.

 Thanks very much

 Cheers Duncan

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk is not designed for University with largeuser base?

2009-03-16 Thread Jay Milk
Danny Nicholas wrote:
 Sounds like a personal preference to me.  Here is the Wiki for SipX.
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SipX

 Reading this, it's just another flavor of the same medicine.  Both are
 open-source with Commercial support available.
   
I'd contend that the business model says very little about 
implementation, reliability, scalability.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Good phone near $125

2009-03-16 Thread Daniel Hazelbaker
On Mar 16, 2009, at 3:53 PM, SIP wrote:

 David Ruggles wrote:
 I was looking at the aastra 9133i, however I was informed that this  
 phone is
 no longer supported. What are good phones around the $100 - $125  
 price
 point? (Need POE)

 Thanks,

 David Ruggles
 CCNA MCSE (NT) CNA A+
 Network Engineer Safe Data, Inc.
 (910) 285-7200   da...@safedatausa.com




 I believe SNOM 300s do PoE (might have to check that, though) and are
 around $100. We've little experience with them, but we use an office
 full of Snom 320s, and we're nothing but pleased with them. Good
 speaker, good handset, lots of excellent options. And reasonably  
 priced.

They do, we have a bunch of 300's (and 320's) deployed as PoE.

Daniel




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Re: [asterisk-users] ATA react to phone but unresponsive to fax modem

2009-03-16 Thread Olivier
2009/3/16 Olivier oza-4...@myamail.com

 Hi,

 I'm rather new to this domain so I may be doing stupid things without being
 concious of that.

 I've got a Patton MATA I'm trying to setup as T.38 fax adapter.
 Whenever I connect a fax machine (Dell MFP1815dn) or a phone to it, I can
 successfully send a fax or talk to the other end.

 Whenever I connect a fax modem (Dell Inspiron 6400 laptop), I keep getting
 No signal. Line is busy or disconnect from Windows XP fax application.
 Whatching SIP trafic from this Patton MATA, I can see no single SIP is
 leaving the box so I'm certain issue relates to analog line settings but I'm
 mostly lost with things like Ring Polarity, Ring settings and so on.

 I tried to mimic settings from an SPA3102 with which I can either fax from
 fax machine or fax application but I'm unsuccessful at the moment.


 1. Can you explain what is going on ?
 2 What would you say reading this :
 Ring waveform:  trapezoid
 Ring frequency: 20
 Ring voltage: 85
 FXS input gain: -6
 FXS output gain: -6
 (I copied those values from SPA3102 into MATA)



 Best regards



Changing FXS input gain and FXS output gain from -6 to -12 improved things
as I could fax out in T.38 with both ATAs and fax endpoints !

But for incoming faxes, modem connected to M-ATA remains silent and idle
whenever the M-ATA receives a fax call : I can see incoming SIP signal
arriving into the ATA but it seems no analog signal is going out from it.
(using SPA3102, faxes are correctly received).


How is called the signal an ATA uses when it wants to wake an analog phone
or a fax machine up ?
Is it correct to think the same electrical signal is sent whatever the
analog endpoint is ?
What could explain a phone is ringing at one and a fax modem remains idle ?

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Re: [asterisk-users] Good phone near $125

2009-03-16 Thread Paul Hales
SIP wrote:
 I believe SNOM 300s do PoE (might have to check that, though) and are 
 around $100. We've little experience with them, but we use an office 
 full of Snom 320s, and we're nothing but pleased with them. Good 
 speaker, good handset, lots of excellent options. And reasonably priced.

 N.
   

The first generation of Snom 300's did _not_ support POE - but later
models did.

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[asterisk-users] Multi-tenant with receptionist features for managed service

2009-03-16 Thread Gavin Henry
Dear all,

I'm currently researching options for a MT asterisk gui/system for a
small business centre that will have 12 units in it. Each unit will be
configured for one extension.

The system there will have a max of 12 concurrent calls to PSTN
provided via an ADSL/SDSL link to our VoIP provider in the UK, using
g.711, maybe g.729 dependant on networking costs. Fallback will
be to 4 analogue lines should this go down.

What is key is billing information and the ability for a receptionist
to see all active calls and do transfers etc. Much like the Flash
Operator Panel. Desktop Software may also be needed for this purpose
or can be done via a traditional bank of lines on an IP phone
accessory module.

If anyone has any ideas on the best way to put this together, I'm all ears ;-)

I was going to use an OpenVOX card and Dell T100 box, with 12 Aastra
53i phones. There's a £4k budget for this (still waiting for more into)which
will include the networking connection and equipment. If I can afford it I
normally go Sangoma with Echo cancellation, but as it's a fallback service,
so I'm not bothered.

I think I've covered everything. There will be many more business
centres to come as this first project will be the blueprint one. The
end goal is to also move this to a data centre and not have it on site
with the pstn fallback options, but use redundant links to our DC.
Like a mini-ITSP for our area. I haven't figured the receptionist part
for that bit yet though ;-)

Thanks,

Gavin.

P.S. I have thought about pbxinaflash and a2billing, but I'm not sure
if it would not be clunky for a novice to handle (receptionist). I may
go down that route and hire the FreePBX team to fill in the mixing pieces
of Multi-tenant if they are interested.

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[asterisk-users] Problem with Verizon Wireless

2009-03-16 Thread drew einhorn
Hi,

I'm having a problem with Verizon Wireless,
I'm hoping someone here knows the right way
to phrase the trouble report so it gets to someone
at Verizon who can solve the problem.

We have DIDs that simultaneously ring on
voip lines, and Cell numbers.

Verizon voicemail is turned off.

Every thing works the way it's supposed to,
UNLESS one of the cellphones is turned off,
or in a remote location where it is too far away
from a cell tower.  Verizon searches their network
and if they cannot find the cell phone, they pick
up the call and generate a voice error message.

Or if the cell lines are busy they generate busy
signal.

I need to know the right incantation to use with
Verizon to get them to just let the cell lines
ring until either some picks up a voip line,
or the voip voicemail picks up the call.

-- 
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[asterisk-users] Bristuff bug or feature ? (Was: Are .call files working with extensions.ael ? bristuff problem)

2009-03-16 Thread Olivier
Hi,

Is the following behaviour a bug or a feature ?

Using bristuff-0.4.0-RC3d.tar.gz, the call file thereafter produces :

[Mar 16 15:39:36] WARNING[25547]: pbx_spool.c:267 apply_outgoing: At least
one of app or extension (or keyword message/pdu) must be specified, along
with tech and dest in file /var/spool/asterisk/outgoing/astup.call

[Mar 16 15:39:36] WARNING[25547]: pbx_spool.c:457 scan_service: Invalid file
contents in /var/spool/asterisk/outgoing/astup.call, deleting

[Mar 16 15:39:36] WARNING[25547]: pbx_spool.c:505 scan_thread: Failed to
scan service '/var/spool/asterisk/outgoing/astup.call'

Reverting Bristuff's patch on lines 266 in asterisk/pbx/pbx_spool.c such as
correct this and call file can be played :
/* Original code

if (ast_strlen_zero(o-tech) || ast_strlen_zero(o-dest) ||
(ast_strlen_zero(o-app)  ast_strlen_zero(o-exten)) ||
(ast_strlen_zero(o-message)  ast_strlen_zero(o-pdu))) {
*/
if (ast_strlen_zero(o-tech) || ast_strlen_zero(o-dest) ||
(ast_strlen_zero(o-app)  ast_strlen_zero(o-exten))) {

Is this a feature or a bug (ie do you have to either add a pdu or a message
(or both) in call files when using Bristuff) ?

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Re: [asterisk-users] Problem with Verizon Wireless

2009-03-16 Thread Jason Aarons (US)
Nextel does that, pickups up after x rings and says 'The Nextel subscriber you 
are trying to reach is unavailable, please try your call again later.
 
I'm not sure what Verizon or Nextel called this feature or what advantage is 
it for the carrier to play it versus just letting it ring forever...
 
In general I've had similar issues, customers want voicemail and single number 
reach delivers the call to the device that answers, be it a home answering 
machine, cell phone voicemail, etc.  I haven't had a customer keep single 
number reach as one call in can burn 4 or more channels out to each device.  
Doesn't scale real well.



From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com on behalf of drew einhorn
Sent: Mon 3/16/2009 7:27 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: [asterisk-users] Problem with Verizon Wireless



Hi,

I'm having a problem with Verizon Wireless,
I'm hoping someone here knows the right way
to phrase the trouble report so it gets to someone
at Verizon who can solve the problem.

We have DIDs that simultaneously ring on
voip lines, and Cell numbers.

Verizon voicemail is turned off.

Every thing works the way it's supposed to,
UNLESS one of the cellphones is turned off,
or in a remote location where it is too far away
from a cell tower.  Verizon searches their network
and if they cannot find the cell phone, they pick
up the call and generate a voice error message.

Or if the cell lines are busy they generate busy
signal.

I need to know the right incantation to use with
Verizon to get them to just let the cell lines
ring until either some picks up a voip line,
or the voip voicemail picks up the call.

--
Drew Einhorn

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Re: [asterisk-users] Good phone near $125

2009-03-16 Thread Marc Charbonneau
 I was looking at the aastra 9133i, however I was informed that this phone is
 no longer supported. What are good phones around the $100 - $125 price
 point? (Need POE)

I like the Polycom IP-330. 2 lines, nice speakerphone, dual ethernet,
support PoE and works with 2.5mm headset.
$110 at voipsupply

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Re: [asterisk-users] Ast/Hyla/IAX Scalability?

2009-03-16 Thread Steve Underwood
VB wrote:
 If you using cisco why don't you use fax on/off ramp it works quite well.
 Then you can do with the fax file whatever you want.

 From other point of view I did connected 1.6.0.6 with spandsp-0.0.5 to PRI
 and receivefax seems to be working ok. The connect speed is low somewhere
 between 2400-9600 but it seems to be working.
   
Why do people love to just make stuff up when they post? The range is 
4800 to 14400, and that's the full range of most FAX machines. Some go 
up to 33600, but there are lots of problems, and the required modem is 
encumbered, so a free solution isn't possible.
 Actually I was able to receive international fax. Of course with some
 failures :-)
   
Why of course?
 If you want to use T38 in asterisk over ip with ata I didn't have too much
 luck with it. May be it would worked better on LAN. I switched to cisco or
 other hardware and it worked ok.
   
A *lot* of ATAs have very buggy T.38, if they have it at all. Gateways 
aren't much better. You'll find if you try a few Cisco firmware 
revisions that T.38 peformance varies considerably.

Regards,
Steve


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Re: [asterisk-users] Problem with Verizon Wireless

2009-03-16 Thread C F
Good luck having Verizon change that.
In the meantime why don't you try implementing a call screen feature
so that the call is not considered answered until a key is pressed by
the one answering? That way the caller will still hear ringing until
the one answering presses that key.

On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 7:27 PM, drew einhorn drew.einh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm having a problem with Verizon Wireless,
 I'm hoping someone here knows the right way
 to phrase the trouble report so it gets to someone
 at Verizon who can solve the problem.

 We have DIDs that simultaneously ring on
 voip lines, and Cell numbers.

 Verizon voicemail is turned off.

 Every thing works the way it's supposed to,
 UNLESS one of the cellphones is turned off,
 or in a remote location where it is too far away
 from a cell tower.  Verizon searches their network
 and if they cannot find the cell phone, they pick
 up the call and generate a voice error message.

 Or if the cell lines are busy they generate busy
 signal.

 I need to know the right incantation to use with
 Verizon to get them to just let the cell lines
 ring until either some picks up a voip line,
 or the voip voicemail picks up the call.

 --
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Re: [asterisk-users] Problem with Verizon Wireless

2009-03-16 Thread drew einhorn
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Jason Aarons (US)
jason.aar...@us.didata.com wrote:
 Nextel does that, pickups up after x rings and says 'The Nextel subscriber
 you are trying to reach is unavailable, please try your call again later.

 I'm not sure what Verizon or Nextel called this feature or what advantage
 is it for the carrier to play it versus just letting it ring forever...

 In general I've had similar issues, customers want voicemail and single
 number reach delivers the call to the device that answers, be it a home
 answering machine, cell phone voicemail, etc.  I haven't had a customer keep
 single number reach as one call in can burn 4 or more channels out to each
 device.  Doesn't scale real well.


4 channels?  Could you count them for me please?

I'm just getting started and working my way up from the simplest configurations.
I may not have the jargon right right.

I was expecting that I could eventually configure things so that I
could hand off
the calls so that once the Asterisk box got a connection between the
DID provider
originating the call and whatever/whoever is terminating the call (SIP
device, or SIP
service provider) the Asterisk box could then drop out of the connection and let
the originator talk directly to the terminator.

Is this an unrealistic assumption.

Ah,  I see one disconnect.  I think you are assuming T1 or better connections to
the PSTN where you are originating  and terminating the calls yourself
and I'm using
SIP service providers to do all the origination and termination.

I'm connecting a bunch of home offices scattered around the country and do not
have enough lines in any city to justify originating or terminating my own PSTN
calls.

Maybe just one PSTN line per DSL connection to avoid paying a sip provider to
terminate some local calls, and supporting some backup functionality, if the
Asterix box has crashed, but it will be a while before things get that
complicated.



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 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: [asterisk-users] Problem with Verizon Wireless

 Hi,

 I'm having a problem with Verizon Wireless,
 I'm hoping someone here knows the right way
 to phrase the trouble report so it gets to someone
 at Verizon who can solve the problem.

 We have DIDs that simultaneously ring on
 voip lines, and Cell numbers.

 Verizon voicemail is turned off.

 Every thing works the way it's supposed to,
 UNLESS one of the cellphones is turned off,
 or in a remote location where it is too far away
 from a cell tower.  Verizon searches their network
 and if they cannot find the cell phone, they pick
 up the call and generate a voice error message.

 Or if the cell lines are busy they generate busy
 signal.

 I need to know the right incantation to use with
 Verizon to get them to just let the cell lines
 ring until either some picks up a voip line,
 or the voip voicemail picks up the call.

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[asterisk-users] system sizing

2009-03-16 Thread Eric Fort
I'm looking to install a basic asterisk system for my church with:

8 inbound sip channels
8 sip handsets
basic voicemail
room to grow (maybe doubling each of the above)


What would be a recomended system as to needed processor and memory?

Thanks,

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Re: [asterisk-users] Problem with Verizon Wireless

2009-03-16 Thread drew einhorn
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 6:47 PM, C F shma...@gmail.com wrote:
 Good luck having Verizon change that.
 In the meantime why don't you try implementing a call screen feature
 so that the call is not considered answered until a key is pressed by
 the one answering? That way the caller will still hear ringing until
 the one answering presses that key.


Maybe I don't understand this suggestion.

I think your suggestion applys to my sip phones/atas,
but they are not the problem.

The problem is that when Verizon's network notices the the cell phone
is currently not on their network, they pick up the call and answer with a
voice error message (sometimes after only one ring), before anybody
has a chance to answer on a sip device.

Or, am I misunderstanding you suggestion.


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Re: [asterisk-users] system sizing

2009-03-16 Thread Doug
At 19:57 3/16/2009, Eric Fort wrote:
 I'm looking to install a basic asterisk system for my church with:
 
 8 inbound sip channels
 8 sip handsets
 basic voicemail
 room to grow (maybe doubling each of the above)
 
 
 What would be a recomended system as to needed processor and memory?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Eric

Most new hardware is severe overkill for
Asterisk--it's just not that resource
intensive.

This would work:
~~
Codegen case:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811182566

Thermaltake power supply:
http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec_v2.asp?scriteria=BA23480

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-M61PME-S2
http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=enq=M61PME-S2cid=8677888669212799391scoring=mrd#ps-sellers

AMD CPU- Athlon X2 5050E AM2 2.6GHZ 1MB 65NM 45W 2000MHZ Pib:
http://www.mwave.com/mwave/skusearch.hmx?scriteria=BA25671

2GB Crucial Memory:
http://www.mwave.com/mwave/skusearch.hmx?scriteria=BA24642

Seagate Harddrive 500 GB:
http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec_v2.asp?scriteria=AA72270

Pioneer CD/DVD:
http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec_v2.asp?scriteria=AA73666

Floppy Drive:
http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec_v2.asp?scriteria=AA00693

Extra case fans:
http://store4pc.stores.yahoo.net/80ulquietcas1.html
~~

Right now it's important to support AMD.  If they
go under, Intel will just slack off.


If you want to keep it *very* simple:
http://PBXinaFlash.net/


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Re: [asterisk-users] Problem with Verizon Wireless

2009-03-16 Thread John covici
I have a possible suggestion  -- don't consider the call answered
unless someone types a 1 or something -- makes the dial plan more
complex, but it should work pretty well.

on Monday 03/16/2009 drew einhorn(drew.einh...@gmail.com) wrote
  On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 6:47 PM, C F shma...@gmail.com wrote:
   Good luck having Verizon change that.
   In the meantime why don't you try implementing a call screen feature
   so that the call is not considered answered until a key is pressed by
   the one answering? That way the caller will still hear ringing until
   the one answering presses that key.
  
  
  Maybe I don't understand this suggestion.
  
  I think your suggestion applys to my sip phones/atas,
  but they are not the problem.
  
  The problem is that when Verizon's network notices the the cell phone
  is currently not on their network, they pick up the call and answer with a
  voice error message (sometimes after only one ring), before anybody
  has a chance to answer on a sip device.
  
  Or, am I misunderstanding you suggestion.
  
  
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Re: [asterisk-users] system sizing

2009-03-16 Thread Eric Fort
I may not need a 1 to 1 ratio of phones to sip channels Mostly I'm
trying to be a bit conservative on my estimates to leave plenty of
room for expansion and growth.  I'm hoping that I won't need to do
much transcoding (but I shouldn't as long as the phones and the ITSP
use the same codec).  a few of the inbound channels would be for
access to voicemail and calls on them would likely never reach a
phone.

Eric

On 3/16/09, clemen...@gmail.com clemen...@gmail.com wrote:
 3GHz P4 with a gig will do that just admirably... Disk space required for 
 voice mail, would vary on your config.

  Do you really need a 1:1 ratio of SIP channels to phones (assuming you mean 
 inbound from a SIP provider)

  ~Max

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  Sent: Mar 16, 2009 17:57

  I'm looking to install a basic asterisk system for my church with:

  8 inbound sip channels
  8 sip handsets
  basic voicemail
  room to grow (maybe doubling each of the above)


  What would be a recomended system as to needed processor and memory?

  Thanks,

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Re: [asterisk-users] Problem with Verizon Wireless

2009-03-16 Thread John Novack


drew einhorn wrote:
snip
 Maybe I don't understand this suggestion.

 I think your suggestion applys to my sip phones/atas,
 but they are not the problem.

 The problem is that when Verizon's network notices the the cell phone
 is currently not on their network, they pick up the call and answer with a
 voice error message (sometimes after only one ring), before anybody
 has a chance to answer on a sip device.

   
On T-mobile, a subscriber can choose to forward to another number in the 
PSTN if the phone cannot be found, they call unavailable, and even a 
different number if the cell doesn't answer in a number of rings ( AFAIK 
not adjustable by the subscriber )
This can all be done a the mobile phone, so no customer service help 
required.
Unknown if VeriZon can do the same.
Questionable if customer service can answer either, if they are as good 
as most!

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Re: [asterisk-users] Problem with Verizon Wireless

2009-03-16 Thread C F
Which if you follow my solution will still ring to the other phones/devices.
http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+cmd+Dial
Use the M option to accomplish this (I'm 1.2 here) if you use 1.4/1.6
then there might be an easier solution, not sure.

On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 8:58 PM, drew einhorn drew.einh...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 6:47 PM, C F shma...@gmail.com wrote:
 Good luck having Verizon change that.
 In the meantime why don't you try implementing a call screen feature
 so that the call is not considered answered until a key is pressed by
 the one answering? That way the caller will still hear ringing until
 the one answering presses that key.


 Maybe I don't understand this suggestion.

 I think your suggestion applys to my sip phones/atas,
 but they are not the problem.

 The problem is that when Verizon's network notices the the cell phone
 is currently not on their network, they pick up the call and answer with a
 voice error message (sometimes after only one ring), before anybody
 has a chance to answer on a sip device.

 Or, am I misunderstanding you suggestion.


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Re: [asterisk-users] Problem with Verizon Wireless

2009-03-16 Thread John Novack


John Novack wrote:
 drew einhorn wrote:
 snip
   
 Maybe I don't understand this suggestion.

 I think your suggestion applys to my sip phones/atas,
 but they are not the problem.

 The problem is that when Verizon's network notices the the cell phone
 is currently not on their network, they pick up the call and answer with a
 voice error message (sometimes after only one ring), before anybody
 has a chance to answer on a sip device.

   
 
 On T-mobile, a subscriber can choose to forward to another number in the 
 PSTN if the phone cannot be found, they call unavailable, and even a 
 different number if the cell doesn't answer in a number of rings ( AFAIK 
 not adjustable by the subscriber )
 This can all be done a the mobile phone, so no customer service help 
 required.
 Unknown if VeriZon can do the same.
 Questionable if customer service can answer either, if they are as good 
 as most!

 John Novack

   
I just spoke with a VeriZon wireless tech who maintains cell sites.
VeriZon wireless network can have calls forwarded on no answer  or 
immediate to other than their voice mail, but there seems to be no way 
to escape the network recording if the phone can't be found.
You may want to try forwarding to another PSTN number either on now 
answer or immediate and see if he is mistaken


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Re: [asterisk-users] Problem with Verizon Wireless

2009-03-16 Thread Jason Aarons (US)
Is the feature you are implementing Single Number Reach? 

They dial a number and you call another number (Verizon Cell Phone) trying to 
connect them to the user? But the problem is Verizon answers with the silly out 
of reach message?  I've never seen where the PSTN carrier lets you re-direct 
the call to the cell phone without your Single Number Reach PBX 
holding/hairpinning the call. I'm more old school PBX than SIP expert and 
suspect this can be done in the SIP cloud. I suspect services like Vonage Ring 
Lists don't hairpin calls!

-Original Message-
From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com 
[mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of drew einhorn
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 8:52 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Problem with Verizon Wireless

On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Jason Aarons (US)
jason.aar...@us.didata.com wrote:
 Nextel does that, pickups up after x rings and says 'The Nextel subscriber
 you are trying to reach is unavailable, please try your call again later.

 I'm not sure what Verizon or Nextel called this feature or what advantage
 is it for the carrier to play it versus just letting it ring forever...

 In general I've had similar issues, customers want voicemail and single
 number reach delivers the call to the device that answers, be it a home
 answering machine, cell phone voicemail, etc.  I haven't had a customer keep
 single number reach as one call in can burn 4 or more channels out to each
 device.  Doesn't scale real well.


4 channels?  Could you count them for me please?

I'm just getting started and working my way up from the simplest configurations.
I may not have the jargon right right.

I was expecting that I could eventually configure things so that I
could hand off
the calls so that once the Asterisk box got a connection between the
DID provider
originating the call and whatever/whoever is terminating the call (SIP
device, or SIP
service provider) the Asterisk box could then drop out of the connection and let
the originator talk directly to the terminator.

Is this an unrealistic assumption.

Ah,  I see one disconnect.  I think you are assuming T1 or better connections to
the PSTN where you are originating  and terminating the calls yourself
and I'm using
SIP service providers to do all the origination and termination.

I'm connecting a bunch of home offices scattered around the country and do not
have enough lines in any city to justify originating or terminating my own PSTN
calls.

Maybe just one PSTN line per DSL connection to avoid paying a sip provider to
terminate some local calls, and supporting some backup functionality, if the
Asterix box has crashed, but it will be a while before things get that
complicated.



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 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: [asterisk-users] Problem with Verizon Wireless

 Hi,

 I'm having a problem with Verizon Wireless,
 I'm hoping someone here knows the right way
 to phrase the trouble report so it gets to someone
 at Verizon who can solve the problem.

 We have DIDs that simultaneously ring on
 voip lines, and Cell numbers.

 Verizon voicemail is turned off.

 Every thing works the way it's supposed to,
 UNLESS one of the cellphones is turned off,
 or in a remote location where it is too far away
 from a cell tower.  Verizon searches their network
 and if they cannot find the cell phone, they pick
 up the call and generate a voice error message.

 Or if the cell lines are busy they generate busy
 signal.

 I need to know the right incantation to use with
 Verizon to get them to just let the cell lines
 ring until either some picks up a voip line,
 or the voip voicemail picks up the call.

 --
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[asterisk-users] Plastic Water Bottles

2009-03-16 Thread drew einhorn
The plastics industry says polycarbonate bottles are safe.
http://www.bisphenol-a.org/about/faq.html#g

I'm sure Maggie and here friends would say ALL plastic bottles are
very dangerous.

This lady seems to be at a reasonable middle ground.
http://trusted.md/blog/vreni_gurd/2007/03/29/plastic_water_bottles

Polycarbonate plastics the kind of bottle you bought contains BPA.
In 2006 Europe banned all products made for children under age 3
containing BPA, and as of Dec. 2006 the city of San Franscisco
followed suit. In March 2007 a billion-dollar class action suit was
commenced against Gerber, Playtex, Evenflo, Avent, and Dr. Brown's in
Los Angeles superior court for harm done to babies caused by drinking
out of baby bottles and sippy cups containing BPA. So, to be certain
that your baby is not exposed, use glass bottles

She suggests that if you really want a plastic bottle, get ones made
from a different kind of plastic.
http://www.nalgene-outdoor.com/store/SearchResult.aspx?CategoryID=10

But she really recommeds storing water in glass, brass, or ceramic bottles.

She does not discuss aluminum.

Here's another author on aluminum.

The problem with aluminum is.  What is the inside of the water bottle
lined with?

Sigg water bottle from Switzerland are the highly recommended, but expensive.
Here's a Sigg clone for $12.00
http://www.everythingyoga.com/colored-water-bottle-18oz.htm

Here's a really ugly link to google ads for non bpa water bottles.

http://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/pagead/ads?client=ca-pub-0918706375590523dt=1237256368148lmt=1237255974format=fp_al_lpoutput=htmlcorrelator=1237256368148channel=1097421959url=http%3A%2F%2Ftrusted.md%2Fblog%2Fvreni_gurd%2F2007%2F03%2F29%2Fplastic_water_bottlesad_type=text_imageea=0ref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dpolycarbonate%2Bleach%2BBPA%26ie%3Dutf-8%26oe%3Dutf-8%26aq%3Dt%26rls%3Dcom.ubuntu%3Aen-US%3Aunofficial%26client%3Dfirefox-afrm=0ga_vid=1194625357321842000.1237255497ga_sid=1237255497ga_hid=600499628ga_fc=trueflash=10.0.22u_h=1200u_w=1600u_ah=1200u_aw=1600u_cd=24u_tz=-360u_his=13u_java=trueu_nplug=15u_nmime=155dtd=16kw_type=radlinkprev_fmts=728x15_0ads_alrt=ChBJvwi1AAQc7AqDJwTq9m-vEhZCUEEgRnJlZSBXYXRlciBCb3R0bGVzGgjBPl5rQmDuSygBUhMI8aH_lPOomQIVBE6DCh2MHDrkhl=enkw0=BPA+Free+Water+Bottleskw1=Plastic+Water+Bottles+7kw2=Bisphenol+a+Bottleskw3=Plastic+Sippy+Cupsokw=BPA+Free+Water+Bottles

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Re: [asterisk-users] Plastic Water Bottles

2009-03-16 Thread Tilghman Lesher
On Monday 16 March 2009 21:49:53 drew einhorn wrote:

snip

What does this have to do with Asterisk?

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Re: [asterisk-users] Problem with Verizon Wireless

2009-03-16 Thread drew einhorn
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 8:45 PM, Jason Aarons (US)
jason.aar...@us.didata.com wrote:
 Is the feature you are implementing Single Number Reach?

 They dial a number and you call another number (Verizon Cell Phone) trying to 
 connect them to the user? But the problem is Verizon answers with the silly 
 out of reach message?  I've never seen where the PSTN carrier lets you 
 re-direct the call to the cell phone without your Single Number Reach PBX 
 holding/hairpinning the call. I'm more old school PBX than SIP expert and 
 suspect this can be done in the SIP cloud. I suspect services like Vonage 
 Ring Lists don't hairpin calls!


I'm just getting started in this are and learning the jargon (had to
google, Single Number Reach, and hairpinning).

Yes, I am trying to implement Single Number Reach.

I'm really not ready to deal with hairpinning.  I think that means the
call comes into my system from the originator,
the makes a sharp U-turn sort of like a hairpin shape an goes out to
wherever the call is terminated.

I believe, but I could easily be wrong, that with sip I can let go of
the hairpin and let the sip originator talk directly
to the sip terminator and get the asterisk box out of the picture once
the call is properly connected.  But I'm
not yet ready to work on that part.

My problem is that the Verizon network grabs the call and effectively
says: it's mine, and I can't handle it.  When
Verizon should just ignore the calls they can handle, and let those
who can handle the call, handle it.

I've got to go take a closer look at some earlier comments that I did
not quite understand on first reading.

I may have to make the process of answering a call more complicated
for the users.
They have to answer the phone and press a key on the keypad to prove
they are a human and not a stupid
Verizon robot that had no business answering the phone.  Arghhh!!!
That's really ugly from a human interface
stand point.  And I've got to figure out how to implement it.

 -Original Message-
 From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com 
 [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of drew einhorn
 Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 8:52 PM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Problem with Verizon Wireless

 On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Jason Aarons (US)
 jason.aar...@us.didata.com wrote:
 Nextel does that, pickups up after x rings and says 'The Nextel subscriber
 you are trying to reach is unavailable, please try your call again later.

 I'm not sure what Verizon or Nextel called this feature or what advantage
 is it for the carrier to play it versus just letting it ring forever...

 In general I've had similar issues, customers want voicemail and single
 number reach delivers the call to the device that answers, be it a home
 answering machine, cell phone voicemail, etc.  I haven't had a customer keep
 single number reach as one call in can burn 4 or more channels out to each
 device.  Doesn't scale real well.


 4 channels?  Could you count them for me please?

 I'm just getting started and working my way up from the simplest 
 configurations.
 I may not have the jargon right right.

 I was expecting that I could eventually configure things so that I
 could hand off
 the calls so that once the Asterisk box got a connection between the
 DID provider
 originating the call and whatever/whoever is terminating the call (SIP
 device, or SIP
 service provider) the Asterisk box could then drop out of the connection and 
 let
 the originator talk directly to the terminator.

 Is this an unrealistic assumption.

 Ah,  I see one disconnect.  I think you are assuming T1 or better connections 
 to
 the PSTN where you are originating  and terminating the calls yourself
 and I'm using
 SIP service providers to do all the origination and termination.

 I'm connecting a bunch of home offices scattered around the country and do not
 have enough lines in any city to justify originating or terminating my own 
 PSTN
 calls.

 Maybe just one PSTN line per DSL connection to avoid paying a sip provider to
 terminate some local calls, and supporting some backup functionality, if the
 Asterix box has crashed, but it will be a while before things get that
 complicated.



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 Sent: Mon 3/16/2009 7:27 PM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: [asterisk-users] Problem with Verizon Wireless

 Hi,

 I'm having a problem with Verizon Wireless,
 I'm hoping someone here knows the right way
 to phrase the trouble report so it gets to someone
 at Verizon who can solve the problem.

 We have DIDs that simultaneously ring on
 voip lines, and Cell numbers.

 Verizon voicemail is turned off.

 Every thing works the way it's supposed to,
 UNLESS one of the cellphones is turned off,
 or in a remote location where it is too far away
 from a cell tower.  

Re: [asterisk-users] Plastic Water Bottles

2009-03-16 Thread Jon Pounder
Tilghman Lesher wrote:
 On Monday 16 March 2009 21:49:53 drew einhorn wrote:
   
 snip

 What does this have to do with Asterisk?

   
I was thinking plastic bottles are just todays version of cups on a string.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Plastic Water Bottles

2009-03-16 Thread drew einhorn
Sorry,  It has absolutely nothing to do with this list.  It was
intended for my wife
and was accidentally sent to the wrong address.  I really hope I have not
offended folks that I really want to answer the on topic questions I am asking
on this list.

I'm very, very sorry.

On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 9:20 PM, Tilghman Lesher
tilgh...@mail.jeffandtilghman.com wrote:
 On Monday 16 March 2009 21:49:53 drew einhorn wrote:

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 What does this have to do with Asterisk?

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Re: [asterisk-users] Plastic Water Bottles

2009-03-16 Thread Alex Balashov
Dear Sir,

I am intrigued by your ideas and would like to subscribe to your  
quarterly newsletter as well as your annual seminar and leadership  
conference.

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On Mar 16, 2009, at 10:49 PM, drew einhorn drew.einh...@gmail.com  
wrote:

 The plastics industry says polycarbonate bottles are safe.
 http://www.bisphenol-a.org/about/faq.html#g

 I'm sure Maggie and here friends would say ALL plastic bottles are
 very dangerous.

 This lady seems to be at a reasonable middle ground.
 http://trusted.md/blog/vreni_gurd/2007/03/29/plastic_water_bottles

 Polycarbonate plastics the kind of bottle you bought contains BPA.
 In 2006 Europe banned all products made for children under age 3
 containing BPA, and as of Dec. 2006 the city of San Franscisco
 followed suit. In March 2007 a billion-dollar class action suit was
 commenced against Gerber, Playtex, Evenflo, Avent, and Dr. Brown's in
 Los Angeles superior court for harm done to babies caused by drinking
 out of baby bottles and sippy cups containing BPA. So, to be certain
 that your baby is not exposed, use glass bottles

 She suggests that if you really want a plastic bottle, get ones made
 from a different kind of plastic.
 http://www.nalgene-outdoor.com/store/SearchResult.aspx?CategoryID=10

 But she really recommeds storing water in glass, brass, or ceramic  
 bottles.

 She does not discuss aluminum.

 Here's another author on aluminum.

 The problem with aluminum is.  What is the inside of the water bottle
 lined with?

 Sigg water bottle from Switzerland are the highly recommended, but  
 expensive.
 Here's a Sigg clone for $12.00
 http://www.everythingyoga.com/colored-water-bottle-18oz.htm

 Here's a really ugly link to google ads for non bpa water bottles.

 http://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/pagead/ads?client=ca-pub-0918706375590523dt=1237256368148lmt=1237255974format=fp_al_lpoutput=htmlcorrelator=1237256368148channel=1097421959url=http%3A%2F%2Ftrusted.md%2Fblog%2Fvreni_gurd%2F2007%2F03%2F29%2Fplastic_water_bottlesad_type=text_imageea=0ref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dpolycarbonate%2Bleach%2BBPA%26ie%3Dutf-8%26oe%3Dutf-8%26aq%3Dt%26rls%3Dcom.ubuntu%3Aen-US%3Aunofficial%26client%3Dfirefox-afrm=0ga_vid=1194625357321842000.1237255497ga_sid=1237255497ga_hid=600499628ga_fc=trueflash=10.0.22u_h=1200u_w=1600u_ah=1200u_aw=1600u_cd=24u_tz=-360u_his=13u_java=trueu_nplug=15u_nmime=155dtd=16kw_type=radlinkprev_fmts=728x15_0ads_alrt=ChBJvwi1AAQc7AqDJwTq9m-vEhZCUEEgRnJlZSBXYXRlciBCb3R0bGVzGgjBPl5rQmDuSygBUhMI8aH_lPOomQIVBE6DCh2MHDrkhl=enkw0=BPA+Free+Water+Bottleskw1=Plastic+Water+Bottles+7kw2=Bisphenol+a+Bottleskw3=Plastic+Sippy+Cupsokw=BPA+Free+Water+Bottles

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