Re: [asterisk-users] Dell Server suggestion
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 4:21 PM, Sascha Ferley sascha.fer...@infineon.net wrote: Hi, I am in need of ordering a new server here for our asterisk solution. Since the corporate standard is Dell we need to stick to a dell server. We used to deploy 2900III without any issues, however now they are almost not available any more and are looking at a new solution. Has anyone tried any of the new Dell R (series) servers with Asterisk, utilizing Digium PRI cards? I am also required to buy Dell per company standards. I have two R805s, which is one of the rare times where Dell is selling servers with the six-core Opterons. I have a Digium TE-420 (PCI Express) in each. No problems so far, but they've only been live a few weeks. The R805 has 16x dimm slots which you can populate with a total of 128GB of ram. Our other R805 is NOT used for asterisk, but it's hammered with heavy Oracle loads, has an attached Dell sata drive box, and has had no problems other than early deployment problems with the driver / firmware / crashes with the external Dell sata card. Once we upgraded everything and fully replaced the card the problems were resolved. It's been up solid for at least six months. ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[asterisk-users] Dell Server suggestion
Hi, I am in need of ordering a new server here for our asterisk solution. Since the corporate standard is Dell we need to stick to a dell server. We used to deploy 2900III without any issues, however now they are almost not available any more and are looking at a new solution. Has anyone tried any of the new Dell R (series) servers with Asterisk, utilizing Digium PRI cards? The biggest issue I can see is that in the future we may want to get a transcoder card, however none of the new servers have a standard PCI slot available any more as with the new Nathelem chips having gotten rid of the basic bridge I guess. Any suggestions? Thanks S. ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Dell Server suggestion
Sascha Ferley wrote: Hi, I am in need of ordering a new server here for our asterisk solution. Since the corporate standard is Dell we need to stick to a dell server. We used to deploy 2900III without any issues, however now they are almost not available any more and are looking at a new solution. Has anyone tried any of the new Dell R (series) servers with Asterisk, utilizing Digium PRI cards? The biggest issue I can see is that in the future we may want to get a transcoder card, however none of the new servers have a standard PCI slot available any more as with the new Nathelem chips having gotten rid of the basic bridge I guess. We're using an R200 with a TE220B dual T1 card for 8 months now without issue. As for the PCI problem, Digium makes a PCI Express transcoder card (TCE400B). As long as the server you buy has a built-in disk controller you should have two open PCI Express slots to play with. -Dave ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Dell Server suggestion
Sascha Ferley wrote: The biggest issue I can see is that in the future we may want to get a transcoder card, however none of the new servers have a standard PCI slot available any more as with the new Nathelem chips having gotten rid of the basic bridge I guess. http://www.digium.com/en/products/voice/tce400b.php There is a PCI-Express version of that card available, so there is no need to restrict yourself to servers with PCI slots available. -- Kevin P. Fleming Digium, Inc. | Director of Software Technologies 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - USA skype: kpfleming | jabber: kpflem...@digium.com Check us out at www.digium.com www.asterisk.org ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Dell Server suggestion
On Dec 23, 2009, at 4:21 PM, Sascha Ferley wrote: Hi, I am in need of ordering a new server here for our asterisk solution. Since the corporate standard is Dell we need to stick to a dell server. We used to deploy 2900III without any issues, however now they are almost not available any more and are looking at a new solution. Has anyone tried any of the new Dell R (series) servers with Asterisk, utilizing Digium PRI cards? The biggest issue I can see is that in the future we may want to get a transcoder card, however none of the new servers have a standard PCI slot available any more as with the new Nathelem chips having gotten rid of the basic bridge I guess. Any suggestions? Thanks S. Personally, not a big fan of Dell Servers. That being said, I've deployed Asterisk in many of the new R series 1 2 U servers with Digium cards. Initial deployments have been without issue. Longterm have had the random drive failure and heat issues I've come to experience with Dell servers. ---fred http://qxork.com ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Dell Server suggestion
On 12/23/2009 03:48 PM, Fred Posner wrote: On Dec 23, 2009, at 4:21 PM, Sascha Ferley wrote: Hi, I am in need of ordering a new server here for our asterisk solution. Since the corporate standard is Dell we need to stick to a dell server. We used to deploy 2900III without any issues, however now they are almost not available any more and are looking at a new solution. Has anyone tried any of the new Dell R (series) servers with Asterisk, utilizing Digium PRI cards? The biggest issue I can see is that in the future we may want to get a transcoder card, however none of the new servers have a standard PCI slot available any more as with the new Nathelem chips having gotten rid of the basic bridge I guess. Any suggestions? Thanks S. Personally, not a big fan of Dell Servers. That being said, I've deployed Asterisk in many of the new R series 1 2 U servers with Digium cards. Initial deployments have been without issue. Longterm have had the random drive failure and heat issues I've come to experience with Dell servers. Fred, To be fair, you see heat issues (and drive failures related to heat issues) in nearly any 1 or 2U server that's not in a properly cooled environment. 1U and 2U servers work well in data centers with 60F cooling. Not so much in your normal office with computers crammed in a closet. Darrick -- Darrick Hartman DJH Solutions, LLC http://www.djhsolutions.com ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Dell Server suggestion
I would recommend the 2U R710 as it has 4 PCI Express slots which should provide plenty of expansion capability. I have a Dell R710 in the testing phase installed with 2 Sangoma A104E cards and a Sangoma A102E card. Everything has been working great and the hardware is solid. It is going to replace an older Asterisk server within the next month, Ryan On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Fred Posner f...@teamforrest.com wrote: On Dec 23, 2009, at 4:21 PM, Sascha Ferley wrote: Hi, I am in need of ordering a new server here for our asterisk solution. Since the corporate standard is Dell we need to stick to a dell server. We used to deploy 2900III without any issues, however now they are almost not available any more and are looking at a new solution. Has anyone tried any of the new Dell R (series) servers with Asterisk, utilizing Digium PRI cards? The biggest issue I can see is that in the future we may want to get a transcoder card, however none of the new servers have a standard PCI slot available any more as with the new Nathelem chips having gotten rid of the basic bridge I guess. Any suggestions? Thanks S. Personally, not a big fan of Dell Servers. That being said, I've deployed Asterisk in many of the new R series 1 2 U servers with Digium cards. Initial deployments have been without issue. Longterm have had the random drive failure and heat issues I've come to experience with Dell servers. ---fred http://qxork.com ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[asterisk-users] Dell Server Question
Hi all, We're planning an Asterisk implementation consisting of two SC1425 Dell Servers using Digium T1 cards and SATA drives. The problem I'm having is the only PCI slot shares an IRQ with the SATA controller. Any altering of one device's IRQ takes the other device's IRQ with it in lockstep. I've disabled all non-essential integrated devices with no change. I'm a little worried about call quality if I can't resolve this IRQ sharing issue. So I'm wondering a few things... 1. Am I missing something with regard to the IRQ configuration? 2. Should I trust in the motherboard's APIC and quit worrying? 3. Assuming there is no solution to (1), is anyone else running a similiar setup with no call quality concerns? Thanks! Nick ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] Dell server
Hi Not exactly a asterisk specific question and what more I'm a newby. I apologize. The story: I was given the task of transitioning my company's PBX (20 people) from a normal old digital PBX to something newer. I chose to use Asterisk. For the project i was given a Dell 850 for the task. My initial intention is to connect asterisk to the current PBX via a T1 connection between them (there is an unused T1 port on the current PBX) and slowly transition extensions from the old PBX to asterisk. The server has the following expansion slots: 1 64bit/133MHz PCI-X and 1 PCI express x8 slot. By all means this isn't my final box for asterisk and final solution, just an interim solution to solve some bottlenecks that we have with the current The questions: 1. Has anyone used a Dell 850 for a small PBX? 2. Will the Digium single span T1 or Sangoma A101 work with these expansion slots? TIA Paolo ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Dell server for asterisk question!
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Dell server for asterisk question!
I second that warning to stay away from the perc raid, I have one that continuously deals me fits. Leo Ann Boon wrote: The TE410P works with the 2650, I had 1 in there for months. One other thing, avoid the PERC RAID. The Linux driver in kernel 2.4 series is not very stable. FYI. Bartosz Jozwiak wrote: I am planning to buy Dell 2650 server with dual Xeon processors. And I would like to buy two TE410P cards for PCI with 3,3v. This is on Dell site about PCI slots for Dell 2650 server: 3 PCI-X (1x64-bit/133MHz, and 2x64-bit/100MHz) Does that mean I will be able to buy two TE410P cards ? Or I need to buy two TE405P cards ? Thanks for help. bartek ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Dell server for asterisk question!
On Thu, 13 May 2004, Jeff Roberts wrote: I second that warning to stay away from the perc raid, I have one that continuously deals me fits. I've got a couple dozen of them and never had any problems. They are running everything from redhat 6.2 to fedora to rhel 3. dave Leo Ann Boon wrote: The TE410P works with the 2650, I had 1 in there for months. One other thing, avoid the PERC RAID. The Linux driver in kernel 2.4 series is not very stable. FYI. Bartosz Jozwiak wrote: I am planning to buy Dell 2650 server with dual Xeon processors. And I would like to buy two TE410P cards for PCI with 3,3v. This is on Dell site about PCI slots for Dell 2650 server: 3 PCI-X (1x64-bit/133MHz, and 2x64-bit/100MHz) Does that mean I will be able to buy two TE410P cards ? Or I need to buy two TE405P cards ? Thanks for help. bartek ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Dave Weis I believe there are more instances of the abridgment [EMAIL PROTECTED] of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations.- James Madison ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Dell server for asterisk question!
I think those warnings are silly. We have a perc control that's been in service for 3+ year without 1 OUNCE of trouble. bkw -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Roberts Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 8:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Dell server for asterisk question! I second that warning to stay away from the perc raid, I have one that continuously deals me fits. Leo Ann Boon wrote: The TE410P works with the 2650, I had 1 in there for months. One other thing, avoid the PERC RAID. The Linux driver in kernel 2.4 series is not very stable. FYI. Bartosz Jozwiak wrote: I am planning to buy Dell 2650 server with dual Xeon processors. And I would like to buy two TE410P cards for PCI with 3,3v. This is on Dell site about PCI slots for Dell 2650 server: 3 PCI-X (1x64-bit/133MHz, and 2x64-bit/100MHz) Does that mean I will be able to buy two TE410P cards ? Or I need to buy two TE405P cards ? Thanks for help. bartek ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Dell server for asterisk question!
On Thu, 2004-05-13 at 08:55, Jeff Roberts wrote: I second that warning to stay away from the perc raid, I have one that continuously deals me fits. Please take this to the actual PERC mailing list and see where you get. Dell is nice enough to host the list to try and fix the problem. Last I cared to look at it, it was just some 2650's and 1750's that had problems, and that was limited sometimes to certain firmwares on the drives. I think I've said it before on this list or another, but I've have not experienced any problems with the PERC3 or PERC4 controllers on our Dell PowerEdge 1650, 1750, 2600, and 2650 machines. All but three of our servers are running RHEL 3 including ten 1750 servers. Previously these same machines ran RHEL 2.1. Aside from the fact that RHEL 2.1 did not support the PERC out of the box (needed to use a driver disk from Red Hat during install) everything has been fine. -- Tony Kava Senior Network Administrator Pottawattamie County, Iowa ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] Dell server for asterisk question!
I am planning to buy Dell 2650 server with dual Xeon processors. And I would like to buy two TE410P cards for PCI with 3,3v. This is on Dell site about PCI slots for Dell 2650 server: 3 PCI-X (1x64-bit/133MHz, and 2x64-bit/100MHz) Does that mean I will be able to buy two TE410P cards ? Or I need to buy two TE405P cards ? Thanks for help. bartek ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Dell server for asterisk question!
Bartek- It looks like the TE405P 5V cards will work in two of the slots, but I can't find the technical spec's for the motherboard on the Dell site to be sure. (Dell site is weak on technical specifics.) But the big question in my mind is whether you can really support two TE410P's or two TE405P's in one system. I went down this road based on advice I got here on the forum, and found that it wasn't even close - a dual-Xeon could only support one TE410P maximum, and just barely. (also confirmed later on a TE405P) But my environment is heavy IVR with lots of call volume. If you're running VoIP, then I think the maximum depends on how much transcoding you are doing in your system. Be kind to yourself - use two chassis/motherboards - one for each 4-span board! Just my advice and experience - your's may be different! Cheers Scott Scott M. Stingel President, Emerging Voice Technology, Inc. Palo Alto California London England www.evtmedia.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bartosz Jozwiak Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 12:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Dell server for asterisk question! I am planning to buy Dell 2650 server with dual Xeon processors. And I would like to buy two TE410P cards for PCI with 3,3v. This is on Dell site about PCI slots for Dell 2650 server: 3 PCI-X (1x64-bit/133MHz, and 2x64-bit/100MHz) Does that mean I will be able to buy two TE410P cards ? Or I need to buy two TE405P cards ? Thanks for help. bartek ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Dell server for asterisk question!
Thanks very much for your reply. Well this system is going to work in HOTEL enviroment. So still doual Xeon 2.8 Ghz for two TE405P is not enough ? yes i could not find any information on Dell's site too. Even could not find any sales' e-mail address :( So what do you suggest for HOTEL enviroment ? Still I should use two separate asterisk servers for each card ? Quoting Scott Stingel [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Bartek- It looks like the TE405P 5V cards will work in two of the slots, but I can't find the technical spec's for the motherboard on the Dell site to be sure. (Dell site is weak on technical specifics.) But the big question in my mind is whether you can really support two TE410P's or two TE405P's in one system. I went down this road based on advice I got here on the forum, and found that it wasn't even close - a dual-Xeon could only support one TE410P maximum, and just barely. (also confirmed later on a TE405P) But my environment is heavy IVR with lots of call volume. If you're running VoIP, then I think the maximum depends on how much transcoding you are doing in your system. Be kind to yourself - use two chassis/motherboards - one for each 4-span board! Just my advice and experience - your's may be different! Cheers Scott Scott M. Stingel President, Emerging Voice Technology, Inc. Palo Alto California London England www.evtmedia.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bartosz Jozwiak Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 12:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Dell server for asterisk question! I am planning to buy Dell 2650 server with dual Xeon processors. And I would like to buy two TE410P cards for PCI with 3,3v. This is on Dell site about PCI slots for Dell 2650 server: 3 PCI-X (1x64-bit/133MHz, and 2x64-bit/100MHz) Does that mean I will be able to buy two TE410P cards ? Or I need to buy two TE405P cards ? Thanks for help. bartek ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Dell server for asterisk question!
On Wed, 2004-05-12 at 16:35, Bartosz Jozwiak wrote: Thanks very much for your reply. Well this system is going to work in HOTEL enviroment. So still doual Xeon 2.8 Ghz for two TE405P is not enough ? yes i could not find any information on Dell's site too. Even could not find any sales' e-mail address :( So what do you suggest for HOTEL enviroment ? Still I should use two separate asterisk servers for each card ? Assuming you are meaning stock normal telephony and no VoIP on a HOTEL environment, you might be just fine as you will just be doing native brides most of the time. What size HOTELs are you planning on rolling out to? 2 TE405P cards gets you 192 channels using T1 or 240 channels under E1. I'm not sure I have seen hotels that have much over a quarter of the phone lines per extensions. So my guess is that the majority of the time the channels sit idle. At that case, you are probably well within what you need to get this done. What you may consider for wiring needs is to put a server near each wiring closet and link back to a central machine with IAX2. Think about a hotel that has a couple of buildings that are close, but not connected. This allows you to put a server in each building and only run a data connection back to a centralized PSTN gateway. There are many options, and I think you may learn that you want to spec each job out individually then build for it. -- Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Dell server for asterisk question!
Quoting Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, 2004-05-12 at 16:35, Bartosz Jozwiak wrote: Thanks very much for your reply. Well this system is going to work in HOTEL enviroment. So still doual Xeon 2.8 Ghz for two TE405P is not enough ? yes i could not find any information on Dell's site too. Even could not find any sales' e-mail address :( So what do you suggest for HOTEL enviroment ? Still I should use two separate asterisk servers for each card ? Assuming you are meaning stock normal telephony and no VoIP on a HOTEL environment, you might be just fine as you will just be doing native brides most of the time. What size HOTELs are you planning on rolling out to? 2 TE405P cards gets you 192 channels using T1 or 240 channels under E1. I'm not sure I have seen hotels that have much over a quarter of the phone lines per extensions. So my guess is that the majority of the time the channels sit idle. At that case, you are probably well within what you need to get this done. That Hotel need about 96 extensions. I will use 4 channel banks and connect them with T1 and I will use 3 E1 lines for connection to TelcoProvider. I will create also about 5 extensions for SIP IP PHONES. So I am happy to hear that Dell 2650 with dual 2.8Ghz processor will handle it. Of course I would like to run some small IVR system with AutoAttendent. What you may consider for wiring needs is to put a server near each wiring closet and link back to a central machine with IAX2. Think about a hotel that has a couple of buildings that are close, but not connected. This allows you to put a server in each building and only run a data connection back to a centralized PSTN gateway. There are many options, and I think you may learn that you want to spec each job out individually then build for it. -- Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for your help. - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Dell server for asterisk question!
It would depend on how many conversations would be occurring at once, and what type of codecs will be used. There is a page on the Wiki which discusses maximum sizing: http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk+dimensioning But it seems clear from the Wiki that 240 channels (8 E1's) is NOT likely to work if lots of transcoding will occur. So you need to consider your architecture. Regards Scott Stingel Scott M. Stingel President, Emerging Voice Technology, Inc. Palo Alto California London England www.evtmedia.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bartosz Jozwiak Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 2:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Dell server for asterisk question! Thanks very much for your reply. Well this system is going to work in HOTEL enviroment. So still doual Xeon 2.8 Ghz for two TE405P is not enough ? yes i could not find any information on Dell's site too. Even could not find any sales' e-mail address :( So what do you suggest for HOTEL enviroment ? Still I should use two separate asterisk servers for each card ? Quoting Scott Stingel [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Bartek- It looks like the TE405P 5V cards will work in two of the slots, but I can't find the technical spec's for the motherboard on the Dell site to be sure. (Dell site is weak on technical specifics.) But the big question in my mind is whether you can really support two TE410P's or two TE405P's in one system. I went down this road based on advice I got here on the forum, and found that it wasn't even close - a dual-Xeon could only support one TE410P maximum, and just barely. (also confirmed later on a TE405P) But my environment is heavy IVR with lots of call volume. If you're running VoIP, then I think the maximum depends on how much transcoding you are doing in your system. Be kind to yourself - use two chassis/motherboards - one for each 4-span board! Just my advice and experience - your's may be different! Cheers Scott Scott M. Stingel President, Emerging Voice Technology, Inc. Palo Alto California London England www.evtmedia.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bartosz Jozwiak Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 12:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Dell server for asterisk question! I am planning to buy Dell 2650 server with dual Xeon processors. And I would like to buy two TE410P cards for PCI with 3,3v. This is on Dell site about PCI slots for Dell 2650 server: 3 PCI-X (1x64-bit/133MHz, and 2x64-bit/100MHz) Does that mean I will be able to buy two TE410P cards ? Or I need to buy two TE405P cards ? Thanks for help. bartek ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Dell server for asterisk question!
On Wed, 2004-05-12 at 17:08, Bartosz Jozwiak wrote: Quoting Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, 2004-05-12 at 16:35, Bartosz Jozwiak wrote: Thanks very much for your reply. Well this system is going to work in HOTEL enviroment. So still doual Xeon 2.8 Ghz for two TE405P is not enough ? yes i could not find any information on Dell's site too. Even could not find any sales' e-mail address :( So what do you suggest for HOTEL enviroment ? Still I should use two separate asterisk servers for each card ? Assuming you are meaning stock normal telephony and no VoIP on a HOTEL environment, you might be just fine as you will just be doing native brides most of the time. What size HOTELs are you planning on rolling out to? 2 TE405P cards gets you 192 channels using T1 or 240 channels under E1. I'm not sure I have seen hotels that have much over a quarter of the phone lines per extensions. So my guess is that the majority of the time the channels sit idle. At that case, you are probably well within what you need to get this done. That Hotel need about 96 extensions. I will use 4 channel banks and connect them with T1 and I will use 3 E1 lines for connection to TelcoProvider. I will create also about 5 extensions for SIP IP PHONES. Are you sure you want that kind of incoming lines? 3 E1's of PSTN is 90 channels, you would then have the capacity for nearly every phone in the hotel to be active at once. This is not ideal. Ideally, you probably only need half to a quarter of the number of extensions in lines. 96 Extensions should need no more than 2 E1's, and probably wouldn't be too crowded with just a single E1. Think about what your fill rate is in the hotel. If you are only full rarely, you especially don't want to order that much capacity. If you are regularly only 75% full, I would venture you could get away with a single E1 without getting anyone annoyed with the outbound wait if any. Considering that 75% of 96 extensions is 72, and if half of your extensions that are occupied by clients wanted to use the phone, thats 36 channels. A quarter of the 72 is just 18 lines. So the question comes down to one that you need to study usage. If your hotel is rarely 100% full, don't go for the capacity for your peak, it is wasteful and at least in the US, when you are at 100% full, the type of people filling the hotel aren't there for talking on the phone. Look up some of the information about erlang tables by Agner Erlang for a good idea of why I am saying you can get away with much fewer phone lines. So I am happy to hear that Dell 2650 with dual 2.8Ghz processor will handle it. Of course I would like to run some small IVR system with AutoAttendent. Please understand that I say it should work. I do not make a warranty on my statement. I also have not experienced that size of a system yet. But from your description, the most taxing problem you are going to have is keeping 2 cards happy, and large amounts of VoIP, you should be fine. -- Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Dell server for asterisk question!
The TE410P works with the 2650, I had 1 in there for months. One other thing, avoid the PERC RAID. The Linux driver in kernel 2.4 series is not very stable. FYI. Bartosz Jozwiak wrote: I am planning to buy Dell 2650 server with dual Xeon processors. And I would like to buy two TE410P cards for PCI with 3,3v. This is on Dell site about PCI slots for Dell 2650 server: 3 PCI-X (1x64-bit/133MHz, and 2x64-bit/100MHz) Does that mean I will be able to buy two TE410P cards ? Or I need to buy two TE405P cards ? Thanks for help. bartek ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Dell server for asterisk question!
On Wed, 2004-05-12 at 18:16, Leo Ann Boon wrote: The TE410P works with the 2650, I had 1 in there for months. One other thing, avoid the PERC RAID. The Linux driver in kernel 2.4 series is not very stable. The driver is stable, the hardware is suspect. I have PERC raid controllers with 2.4 kernels pushing out to a year of uptime in demanding roles. The difference is they are the older 2450 based machines. Bartosz Jozwiak wrote: I am planning to buy Dell 2650 server with dual Xeon processors. And I would like to buy two TE410P cards for PCI with 3,3v. This is on Dell site about PCI slots for Dell 2650 server: 3 PCI-X (1x64-bit/133MHz, and 2x64-bit/100MHz) Does that mean I will be able to buy two TE410P cards ? Or I need to buy two TE405P cards ? Thanks for help. bartek ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Dell server for asterisk question!
IIRC, they'd a change in the hardware when I got my 2650 - nearly a year ago. Steven Critchfield wrote: On Wed, 2004-05-12 at 18:16, Leo Ann Boon wrote: The TE410P works with the 2650, I had 1 in there for months. One other thing, avoid the PERC RAID. The Linux driver in kernel 2.4 series is not very stable. The driver is stable, the hardware is suspect. I have PERC raid controllers with 2.4 kernels pushing out to a year of uptime in demanding roles. The difference is they are the older 2450 based machines. Bartosz Jozwiak wrote: I am planning to buy Dell 2650 server with dual Xeon processors. And I would like to buy two TE410P cards for PCI with 3,3v. This is on Dell site about PCI slots for Dell 2650 server: 3 PCI-X (1x64-bit/133MHz, and 2x64-bit/100MHz) Does that mean I will be able to buy two TE410P cards ? Or I need to buy two TE405P cards ? Thanks for help. bartek ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Dell server for asterisk question!
I had a problem with ext3 and the aacraid driver specifically on 2650's when running RHEL 3 with the stock 2.4.21-9 kernel; boxes would hang with ext3 faults every day or two. The RedHat bugzilla info is as follows: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=92129 It seems that this is related to the ext3 code, and possibly that of all journaling filesystems, in the 2.4.21 series kernels, there's a post to this end in the Bugzilla thread. I pulled and recompiled the default 2.4.22 Fedora kernel SRPM for RHEL 3 and have had no problems since. Your milage may vary... -Curt From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Leo Ann Boon Sent: Wed 5/12/2004 10:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Dell server for asterisk question! IIRC, they'd a change in the hardware when I got my 2650 - nearly a year ago. Steven Critchfield wrote: On Wed, 2004-05-12 at 18:16, Leo Ann Boon wrote: The TE410P works with the 2650, I had 1 in there for months. One other thing, avoid the PERC RAID. The Linux driver in kernel 2.4 series is not very stable. The driver is stable, the hardware is suspect. I have PERC raid controllers with 2.4 kernels pushing out to a year of uptime in demanding roles. The difference is they are the older 2450 based machines. Bartosz Jozwiak wrote: I am planning to buy Dell 2650 server with dual Xeon processors. And I would like to buy two TE410P cards for PCI with 3,3v. This is on Dell site about PCI slots for Dell 2650 server: 3 PCI-X (1x64-bit/133MHz, and 2x64-bit/100MHz) Does that mean I will be able to buy two TE410P cards ? Or I need to buy two TE405P cards ? Thanks for help. bartek _ Getting married? Find tips, tools and the latest trends at MSN Life Events. http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=married ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
