[Asterisk-Users] Digium cards just for timing
Hi, I've found that neither Michael Manousos patch nor ztdummy driver do not fix musiconhold sound interruption problem up to acceptable quality level. Sound is choppy here anyway. It is my understanding (please correct me if I'm wrong) that if I have a Digium card in my asterisk machine, these problems should be gone 'cause those cards provide some reliable timing. So I have no choice and wish to buy a cheapest Digium card just for timing. I have no PSTN ports, it's pure voip environment here. So my question is whether any Digium card would be ok or I have to buy some specific card? I'm looking at X100P card as it is the cheapest one. Would it be enough? Thank you. Michael ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards just for timing
With the musiconhold and SIP-SIP call it turnes out that you need to disable silence supporesion on your phones/gateways since the timing is taken from the coming stream (but only for musiconhold AFAIK) regards Martin On Tue, 14 Oct 2003, Michael Ulitskiy wrote: Hi, I've found that neither Michael Manousos patch nor ztdummy driver do not fix musiconhold sound interruption problem up to acceptable quality level. Sound is choppy here anyway. It is my understanding (please correct me if I'm wrong) that if I have a Digium card in my asterisk machine, these problems should be gone 'cause those cards provide some reliable timing. So I have no choice and wish to buy a cheapest Digium card just for timing. I have no PSTN ports, it's pure voip environment here. So my question is whether any Digium card would be ok or I have to buy some specific card? I'm looking at X100P card as it is the cheapest one. Would it be enough? Thank you. Michael ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards just for timing
No. I also run machines with pure VoIP and there is not a single problem with music on hold. I don't think an X100P card will help. Anything you gain from the ztdummy driver will be the same as what you can gain from an X100P, FWIW the card is just a $10 winmodem. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Ulitskiy Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 4:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards just for timing Hi, I've found that neither Michael Manousos patch nor ztdummy driver do not fix musiconhold sound interruption problem up to acceptable quality level. Sound is choppy here anyway. It is my understanding (please correct me if I'm wrong) that if I have a Digium card in my asterisk machine, these problems should be gone 'cause those cards provide some reliable timing. So I have no choice and wish to buy a cheapest Digium card just for timing. I have no PSTN ports, it's pure voip environment here. So my question is whether any Digium card would be ok or I have to buy some specific card? I'm looking at X100P card as it is the cheapest one. Would it be enough? Thank you. Michael ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards just for timing
- Hi, I've found that neither Michael Manousos patch nor ztdummy driver do not fix musiconhold sound interruption problem up to acceptable quality level. Sound is choppy here anyway. It is my understanding (please correct me if I'm wrong) that if I have a Digium card in my asterisk machine, these problems should be gone 'cause those cards provide some reliable timing. So I have no choice and wish to buy a cheapest Digium card just for timing. I have no PSTN ports, it's pure voip environment here. So my question is whether any Digium card would be ok or I have to buy some specific card? I'm looking at X100P card as it is the cheapest one. Would it be enough? Thank you. Michael - Michael, Have you tried zaprtc from http://www.junghanns.net/asterisk ? It seems to be working here on a 'SIP only' configuration without any problems. Music on hold sounds perfect. -Nathan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards just for timing
Martin, Thanks a lot. The problem was a turned on silence suppression on cisco ata 186. Now it seems to work perfectly. Thanks to everybody else too. Michael On Tuesday 14 October 2003 05:04 pm, Martin Pycko wrote: With the musiconhold and SIP-SIP call it turnes out that you need to disable silence supporesion on your phones/gateways since the timing is taken from the coming stream (but only for musiconhold AFAIK) regards Martin On Tue, 14 Oct 2003, Michael Ulitskiy wrote: Hi, I've found that neither Michael Manousos patch nor ztdummy driver do not fix musiconhold sound interruption problem up to acceptable quality level. Sound is choppy here anyway. It is my understanding (please correct me if I'm wrong) that if I have a Digium card in my asterisk machine, these problems should be gone 'cause those cards provide some reliable timing. So I have no choice and wish to buy a cheapest Digium card just for timing. I have no PSTN ports, it's pure voip environment here. So my question is whether any Digium card would be ok or I have to buy some specific card? I'm looking at X100P card as it is the cheapest one. Would it be enough? Thank you. Michael ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards just for timing - moden cards?
Two comments: 1) just a $10 winmodem? is this literally true? then what $10 card is known to work? Have you tried one? Yes it is pretty clear that a Winmodem card could work for this application 2) I've always though a real DSP based modem card could be re-programmed to a much more interesting use. Those on-board TI DSP chips are quite powerfull computers. Easly enough to compute any audio codec or even the front end for speech understanding. they are flash reprogramable too. I don't think an X100P card will help. Anything you gain from the ztdummy driver will be the same as what you can gain from an X100P, FWIW the card is just a $10 winmodem. = Chris Albertson Home: 310-376-1029 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 310-990-7550 Office: 310-336-5189 [EMAIL PROTECTED] KG6OMK __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards just for timing - moden cards?
At 06:56 PM 10/14/2003, you wrote: Two comments: 1) just a $10 winmodem? is this literally true? then what $10 card is known to work? Have you tried one? Yes it is pretty clear that a Winmodem card could work for this application yes its literally true. The cards are out of production now afaik, but were based on a motorola dsp. (And yes they were available for under $10USD, and tested and worked fine) 2) I've always though a real DSP based modem card could be re-programmed to a much more interesting use. Those on-board TI DSP chips are quite powerfull computers. Easly enough to compute any audio codec or even the front end for speech understanding. they are flash reprogramable too. The lindsl opensource project is attempting to do this, and reprogram a winmodem to do much higher DSL like speeds in a point to point twisted pair network than a conventional modem would do. Last I knew interest by the author had fell off though. I don't think an X100P card will help. Anything you gain from the ztdummy driver will be the same as what you can gain from an X100P, FWIW the card is just a $10 winmodem. = Chris Albertson Home: 310-376-1029 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 310-990-7550 Office: 310-336-5189 [EMAIL PROTECTED] KG6OMK __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards just for timing - moden cards?
Is that why there is an X100P and an X101P? What design is the X101P based on? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jon Pounder Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 7:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards just for timing - moden cards? pamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) At 06:56 PM 10/14/2003, you wrote: Two comments: 1) just a $10 winmodem? is this literally true? then what $10 card is known to work? Have you tried one? Yes it is pretty clear that a Winmodem card could work for this application yes its literally true. The cards are out of production now afaik, but were based on a motorola dsp. (And yes they were available for under $10USD, and tested and worked fine) 2) I've always though a real DSP based modem card could be re-programmed to a much more interesting use. Those on-board TI DSP chips are quite powerfull computers. Easly enough to compute any audio codec or even the front end for speech understanding. they are flash reprogramable too. The lindsl opensource project is attempting to do this, and reprogram a winmodem to do much higher DSL like speeds in a point to point twisted pair network than a conventional modem would do. Last I knew interest by the author had fell off though. I don't think an X100P card will help. Anything you gain from the ztdummy driver will be the same as what you can gain from an X100P, FWIW the card is just a $10 winmodem. = Chris Albertson Home: 310-376-1029 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 310-990-7550 Office: 310-336-5189 [EMAIL PROTECTED] KG6OMK __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Joakimsen;Andrew FN:Andrew Joakimsen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ORG:Envision Studio TEL;WORK;VOICE:(888) 210-8063 TEL;CELL;VOICE:(305) 776-0334 TEL;WORK;FAX:(305) 669-6720 EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] REV:20030819T050904Z END:VCARD
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards just for timing - moden cards?
Is that why there is an X100P and an X101P? What design is the X101P based on? AFAIK the current design uses a Tiger 320 chip which is essentially a PCI gateway -- it provides a serial port and an 8-bit parallel interface to anything. The single FXO card uses the serial interface, and the single T1 card uses the 8-bit parallel interface to a standard Dallas Semiconductor T1/E1/J1 framer IC. Regards, Andrew ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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2) I've always though a real DSP based modem card could be re-programmed to a much more interesting use. Those on-board TI DSP chips are quite powerfull computers. Easly enough to compute any audio codec or even the front end for speech understanding. they are flash reprogramable too. That and without blasting the PC with interrupts... I wonder if the codec conversion costs would be better (not sure how well SSE fares against a good DSP) Regards, Andrew ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards just for timing - moden cards?
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:06:42 -0400, Jon Pounder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 06:56 PM 10/14/2003, you wrote: Two comments: 1) just a $10 winmodem? is this literally true? then what $10 card is known to work? Have you tried one? Yes it is pretty clear that a Winmodem card could work for this application yes its literally true. The cards are out of production now afaik, but were based on a motorola dsp. (And yes they were available for under $10USD, and tested and worked fine) Does a list exist that has all the winmodems that can supply timing? All I would like to do is get rid of the echo in meetme. 2) I've always though a real DSP based modem card could be re-programmed to a much more interesting use. Those on-board TI DSP chips are quite powerfull computers. Easly enough to compute any audio codec or even the front end for speech understanding. they are flash reprogramable too. The lindsl opensource project is attempting to do this, and reprogram a winmodem to do much higher DSL like speeds in a point to point twisted pair network than a conventional modem would do. Last I knew interest by the author had fell off though. I don't think an X100P card will help. Anything you gain from the ztdummy driver will be the same as what you can gain from an X100P, FWIW the card is just a $10 winmodem. = Chris Albertson Home: 310-376-1029 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 310-990-7550 Office: 310-336-5189 [EMAIL PROTECTED] KG6OMK __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards just for timing - moden cards?
I think the X101P uses an Ambient/Intel HAM 56K modem chip. The older X100 is based on Motorola. Any authoritative answers? Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: Is that why there is an X100P and an X101P? What design is the X101P based on? AFAIK the current design uses a Tiger 320 chip which is essentially a PCI gateway -- it provides a serial port and an 8-bit parallel interface to anything. The single FXO card uses the serial interface, and the single T1 card uses the 8-bit parallel interface to a standard Dallas Semiconductor T1/E1/J1 framer IC. Regards, Andrew ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards just for timing - moden cards?
most probably use tjnetworks chips, www.tjnet.com to be specific: http://www.tjnet.com/chips/tiger320.htm I am not sure though:) - Original Message - From: Leo Ann Boon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 6:09 AM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium cards just for timing - moden cards? I think the X101P uses an Ambient/Intel HAM 56K modem chip. The older X100 is based on Motorola. Any authoritative answers? Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: Is that why there is an X100P and an X101P? What design is the X101P based on? AFAIK the current design uses a Tiger 320 chip which is essentially a PCI gateway -- it provides a serial port and an 8-bit parallel interface to anything. The single FXO card uses the serial interface, and the single T1 card uses the 8-bit parallel interface to a standard Dallas Semiconductor T1/E1/J1 framer IC. Regards, Andrew ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users