Re: [Asterisk-Users] How does the g.729 registration program work?

2005-02-28 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 12:35:29AM -0330, Paul Fielding wrote:
 You misunderstand. Ofcourse I need to run the register program on the
 machine itself. The point is I build them from images and every now and
 then I roll out a new image. My question is, what do I need to preserve
 from the previous image to keep the licences. Obviously reformatting
 the disk and reregistering is not going to work.
 
 I could be mistaken, but doesn't the license tie itself to the nics on the 
 server?  I believe the Digium server will allow you to reregister as much 
 as you want as long as it's still got the same nics...

It does, but if you're only upgrading asterisk but not changing any
hardware, there's no need to reregister anything. In my case I just
wanted to make sure that the registration wasn't going to write
somewhere read-only (say /usr/lib) or in a ram-disk (in my case /etc).
It's in /var/lib/asterisk which I have as a real disk...

Even if you can reregister each time, it easier to remember the actual
licence than it is to remember the key and reenter manually each time.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] How does the g.729 registration program work?

2005-02-28 Thread Paul Fielding
I thought that it was 3 different times with different nics, but with the 
same nic didn't count.*shrug*.  No matter - if we can just copy the 
license keys that's much easier... :)

Paul
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Paul Fielding wrote:
I could be mistaken, but doesn't the license tie itself to the nics on 
the server?  I believe the Digium server will allow you to reregister as 
much as you want as long as it's still got the same nics...

Paul
You do not need to re-register a key if the NICS have not changed.  Just 
make a copy of the files in /var/lib/asterisk/licenses (I think that's 
where they are).

Digium will allow you to re-register the same G729 license key three 
different times without having them reset your license key.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] How does the g.729 registration program work?

2005-02-28 Thread Kristian Kielhofner
Paul Fielding wrote:
I thought that it was 3 different times with different nics, but with 
the same nic didn't count.*shrug*.  No matter - if we can just copy 
the license keys that's much easier... :)

Paul
Yes, that is the case.  But on the same hardware why not just copy the 
license files?

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] How does the g.729 registration program work?

2005-02-28 Thread Paul Fielding
- Original Message - 
From: Kristian Kielhofner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Paul Fielding wrote:
I thought that it was 3 different times with different nics, but with the 
same nic didn't count.*shrug*.  No matter - if we can just copy the 
license keys that's much easier... :)
Yes, that is the case.  But on the same hardware why not just copy the 
license files?
Don't get me wrong, I agree with you.  I'm just pointing out that if you 
aren't in a position to copy the license files (ie. you blew up the drive or 
simply forgot) then you're still ok

regards,
Paul 

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] How does the g.729 registration program work?

2005-02-28 Thread Kristian Kielhofner
Paul Fielding wrote:
- Original Message - From: Kristian Kielhofner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Paul Fielding wrote:
I thought that it was 3 different times with different nics, but with 
the same nic didn't count.*shrug*.  No matter - if we can just 
copy the license keys that's much easier... :)

Yes, that is the case.  But on the same hardware why not just copy the 
license files?

Don't get me wrong, I agree with you.  I'm just pointing out that if you 
aren't in a position to copy the license files (ie. you blew up the 
drive or simply forgot) then you're still ok

regards,
Paul
Paul,
	I understood completely!  It just seems like there may have been some 
confusion remaining...

Glad to help.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] How does the g.729 registration program work?

2005-02-27 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 09:15:19PM +0100, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote:
 You misunderstand. Ofcourse I need to run the register program on the
 machine itself. The point is I build them from images and every now and
 then I roll out a new image. My question is, what do I need to preserve
 from the previous image to keep the licences. Obviously reformatting
 the disk and reregistering is not going to work.

To follow up for the rest of the list, the licences appear to be stored
under /var/lib/asterisk/ so as long as you preserve everything in there
when you upgrade you shouldn't lose your licences.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] How does the g.729 registration program work?

2005-02-27 Thread Paul Fielding
You misunderstand. Ofcourse I need to run the register program on the
machine itself. The point is I build them from images and every now and
then I roll out a new image. My question is, what do I need to preserve
from the previous image to keep the licences. Obviously reformatting
the disk and reregistering is not going to work.
I could be mistaken, but doesn't the license tie itself to the nics on the 
server?  I believe the Digium server will allow you to reregister as much as 
you want as long as it's still got the same nics...

Paul
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] How does the g.729 registration program work?

2005-02-27 Thread Kristian Kielhofner
Paul Fielding wrote:
I could be mistaken, but doesn't the license tie itself to the nics on 
the server?  I believe the Digium server will allow you to reregister as 
much as you want as long as it's still got the same nics...

Paul
You do not need to re-register a key if the NICS have not changed.  Just 
make a copy of the files in /var/lib/asterisk/licenses (I think that's 
where they are).

Digium will allow you to re-register the same G729 license key three 
different times without having them reset your license key.

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[Asterisk-Users] How does the g.729 registration program work?

2005-02-25 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
I'm asking because I'm planning to install multiple machines from the
same image and I need to know what file(s) I need to backup/restore to
make sure I don't lose my licences in the process. The only options I
can think of are:

- There's a config file, though I've seen no mention of it
- The actual binary shared library is modified
- The system contacts Digium every time you start asterisk

In the last case nothing is changed at all and I'm fine.

Thanks in advance,
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Ecomtel Pty Ltd
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] How does the g.729 registration program work?

2005-02-25 Thread Steven Critchfield
On Fri, 2005-02-25 at 16:59 +0100, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote:
 I'm asking because I'm planning to install multiple machines from the
 same image and I need to know what file(s) I need to backup/restore to
 make sure I don't lose my licences in the process. The only options I
 can think of are:
 
 - There's a config file, though I've seen no mention of it
 - The actual binary shared library is modified
 - The system contacts Digium every time you start asterisk
 
 In the last case nothing is changed at all and I'm fine.

It is based on a machine unique key created by querying your hardware.
You will not be able to share your licenses between machines. You will
need to buy licenses for each machine you deploy on.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] How does the g.729 registration program work?

2005-02-25 Thread Mik Cheez
There is an open source version of the license:
http://www.readytechnology.co.uk/open/g729/INSTALL-041103.txt
You can view the licensing information at the following:
http://www.intel.com/software/products/ipp/
more details can be found on http://www.voip-info.org
Steven Critchfield wrote:
On Fri, 2005-02-25 at 16:59 +0100, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote:
 

I'm asking because I'm planning to install multiple machines from the
same image and I need to know what file(s) I need to backup/restore to
make sure I don't lose my licences in the process. The only options I
can think of are:
- There's a config file, though I've seen no mention of it
- The actual binary shared library is modified
- The system contacts Digium every time you start asterisk
In the last case nothing is changed at all and I'm fine.
   

It is based on a machine unique key created by querying your hardware.
You will not be able to share your licenses between machines. You will
need to buy licenses for each machine you deploy on.
 

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] How does the g.729 registration program work?

2005-02-25 Thread Steven Critchfield
On Fri, 2005-02-25 at 09:25 -0800, Mik Cheez wrote:
 There is an open source version of the license:
 http://www.readytechnology.co.uk/open/g729/INSTALL-041103.txt
 
 You can view the licensing information at the following:
 http://www.intel.com/software/products/ipp/
 
 more details can be found on http://www.voip-info.org

http://www.intel.com/software/products/ipp/speech_code_lin_eula.htm

And in section 3.E of the license above listed, you still must obtain
licenses from the patent holders. 

Also, arguably, section 8. removes the ability to use in most phone
systems. 

While it MAY be highly unlikely that you get prosecuted for using the
code on your home machine. But if you start to scale up to any
significant port usage, you may find yourself battling to not lose the
company on a simple licensable part.

Not to mention the fact that you will possibly get flamed for not having
gone the legal and community building route of buying from Digium.

 Steven Critchfield wrote:
 
 On Fri, 2005-02-25 at 16:59 +0100, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote:
   
 
 I'm asking because I'm planning to install multiple machines from the
 same image and I need to know what file(s) I need to backup/restore to
 make sure I don't lose my licences in the process. The only options I
 can think of are:
 
 - There's a config file, though I've seen no mention of it
 - The actual binary shared library is modified
 - The system contacts Digium every time you start asterisk
 
 In the last case nothing is changed at all and I'm fine.
 
 
 
 It is based on a machine unique key created by querying your hardware.
 You will not be able to share your licenses between machines. You will
 need to buy licenses for each machine you deploy on.
   
 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] How does the g.729 registration program work?

2005-02-25 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 11:24:21AM -0600, Steven Critchfield wrote:
 It is based on a machine unique key created by querying your hardware.
 You will not be able to share your licenses between machines. You will
 need to buy licenses for each machine you deploy on.

You misunderstand. Ofcourse I need to run the register program on the
machine itself. The point is I build them from images and every now and
then I roll out a new image. My question is, what do I need to preserve
from the previous image to keep the licences. Obviously reformatting
the disk and reregistering is not going to work.

So what will???

Thanks in advance,
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Ecomtel Pty Ltd
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] How does the g.729 registration program work?

2005-02-25 Thread Mik Cheez
Thanks for the clarification.  In that case the following should only be 
considered for development.

Steven Critchfield wrote:
On Fri, 2005-02-25 at 09:25 -0800, Mik Cheez wrote:
 

There is an open source version of the license:
http://www.readytechnology.co.uk/open/g729/INSTALL-041103.txt
You can view the licensing information at the following:
http://www.intel.com/software/products/ipp/
more details can be found on http://www.voip-info.org
   

http://www.intel.com/software/products/ipp/speech_code_lin_eula.htm
And in section 3.E of the license above listed, you still must obtain
licenses from the patent holders. 

Also, arguably, section 8. removes the ability to use in most phone
systems. 

While it MAY be highly unlikely that you get prosecuted for using the
code on your home machine. But if you start to scale up to any
significant port usage, you may find yourself battling to not lose the
company on a simple licensable part.
Not to mention the fact that you will possibly get flamed for not having
gone the legal and community building route of buying from Digium.
 

Steven Critchfield wrote:
   

On Fri, 2005-02-25 at 16:59 +0100, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote:
 

I'm asking because I'm planning to install multiple machines from the
same image and I need to know what file(s) I need to backup/restore to
make sure I don't lose my licences in the process. The only options I
can think of are:
- There's a config file, though I've seen no mention of it
- The actual binary shared library is modified
- The system contacts Digium every time you start asterisk
In the last case nothing is changed at all and I'm fine.
  

   

It is based on a machine unique key created by querying your hardware.
You will not be able to share your licenses between machines. You will
need to buy licenses for each machine you deploy on.
 

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