Re: [Asterisk-Users] Is soekris good?

2005-07-22 Thread Kristian Kielhofner

Juraj Bednar wrote:

Hello,

   I just got my Soekris 4801 box for use with Asterisk, but not as a
primary Asterisk server.



* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Is @home or regular better?)



   If you want to run from CF, I recommend running some distribution
(that does not take much space) and your own Asterisk... I'm not even
sure if it be that easy to install Asterisk on Soekris in the first
place.


It should take less than five minutes:

http://www.astlinux.org


I found documentation not being that good for installs, I found a
wonderful page describing the install process:
http://www.ultradesic.com/index.php?section=22



* Shorwall firewall



Try to get a real firewall, Shorewall has quite high latency. You
should optimize...


	Shorewall is an abstraction layer for iptables.  I don't know what you 
mean by real firewall but iptables does the work here.  It most 
certainly is a real firewall.  Shorewall probably has high latency 
because it adds a lot of frivolous rules (just like every other firewall 
utility of it's kind).



What is the CF size you are using? and how much is still free? What have
you installed?



 For my setup I installed OpenBSD, although I primarily use Debian
GNU/Linux. The OpenBSD choice was because of the vpn card for Soekris,
which is better supported under OpenBSD. I installed the base package
except games and manual pages, about 60MB was still free (I used 256MB
compact flash card).


	You can use the flashboot script to generate a nice trimmed down 
OpenBSD environment...



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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Is soekris good?

2005-07-21 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 09:59:05AM +0800, Ronald_Wiplinger wrote:
 asterisk_on_oelf wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I have a soekris 4801 since some days. I use it with a FritzCard-USB 
 and an
 internal HFC-Card (NT Mode). Everything is working, but I still havn't 
 had time
 for performance test. Only thing I tested, was two ISDN channels via 
 FritzCard
 in a conference room. CPU usage was nearly 70%
 I hope next weekend I'll find more time.
 
 What WiFi phone do you want to use? I tried a ZyXEL P2000W, but voice 
 quality
 was very bad.
 
 Jens,
 
 I am trying to find out what is the best board for us.
 I want to build an asterisk based PBX with one digium TDM422 card.
 A USB wireless adapter should make the entire system with:
 * [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Is @home or regular better?)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] approach is to give you a toolbox for building Asterisk
on your system. This works fine for a PC, but generates an over-inflated
system if you want to generate an embedded-type system.

Now from my point of view: what are your recommendations for building a
CF-based system from based on Debian Sarge?

 * Shorwall firewall

Why shorewall? Why not firewall? I believe that the rules shorewall
creates are not very efficient, latency-wise.

 * QoS
 * Hotspot for wireless phones
 * web server for Asterisk (billing, settings) - maybe thttpd since it 
 also can IPv6
 * IPv6 in the second step (I think @home cannot IPv6)
 * astcc
 * h.323 module
 * wakeup
 * festival  (Maybe the CPU / RAM is too low for that)
 * MOH
 * voice mail
 * ???
 
 What do you think about it? Is the 4801 right for that?

Some of that is CPU intensive. Festival, MOH(?), astcc(?), voip with a
compressed codec. The sokeris box may be enough for a light load,
though.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Is soekris good?

2005-07-21 Thread Kristian Kielhofner

Ronald_Wiplinger wrote:

asterisk_on_oelf wrote:


Hi,

I have a soekris 4801 since some days. I use it with a FritzCard-USB 
and an
internal HFC-Card (NT Mode). Everything is working, but I still havn't 
had time
for performance test. Only thing I tested, was two ISDN channels via 
FritzCard

in a conference room. CPU usage was nearly 70%
I hope next weekend I'll find more time.

What WiFi phone do you want to use? I tried a ZyXEL P2000W, but voice 
quality

was very bad.


Jens,

I am trying to find out what is the best board for us.
I want to build an asterisk based PBX with one digium TDM422 card.
A USB wireless adapter should make the entire system with:
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Is @home or regular better?)
* Shorwall firewall
* QoS
* Hotspot for wireless phones
* web server for Asterisk (billing, settings) - maybe thttpd since it 
also can IPv6

* IPv6 in the second step (I think @home cannot IPv6)
* astcc
* h.323 module
* wakeup
* festival  (Maybe the CPU / RAM is too low for that)
* MOH
* voice mail
* ???

What do you think about it? Is the 4801 right for that?

Some questions about Soekris:
What is in the package? (Power adapter?, CF?, manual? ...)
How to install it?
What is the CF size you are using? and how much is still free? What have 
you installed?


We are in the process to develop a WiFi phone, 


bye

Ronald


Everyone,

	[EMAIL PROTECTED] is a distribution that includes Asterisk.  Asterisk is an 
application.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] cannot be compared to Asterisk, they are not 
the same thing.  With that being said, [EMAIL PROTECTED] is basically CentOS 
that installs Asterisk by default,  Myself and others have pointed this 
out several times on this list.


	Secondly, you would NEVER want to run [EMAIL PROTECTED] on a Soekris or any 
embedded device.  It's WAY too huge, plus running it from flash would be 
a bad idea.


	Third, the Soekris Net4801 will probably not be able to handle the 
TDM422.  Echo cancellation and transcoding will probably bring it to 
it's knees.


	As far as IPv6, Asterisk cannot do IPv6 anyways (I know there were some 
patches at one time, but I don't think they are current).  Use a 
Mini-PCI  wireless card instead.


	Overall, it looks like you are trying to cram WAY TOO MUCH 
functionality into one box, especially something like the Soekris Net4801!



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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Is soekris good?

2005-07-21 Thread asterisk_on_oelf




I am trying to find out what is the best board for us.
I want to build an asterisk based PBX with one digium TDM422 card.
A USB wireless adapter should make the entire system with:
* Asterisk at home (Is @home or regular better?)


I have no experiences with @home. I use a debian. Debian sarge includes 
asterisk

1.0.7.
Debian unstable includes 1.0.9.


* Shorwall firewall
* QoS


I don't know shorwall. I use iptables with stateful inspection and HFSC 
shaping

as described in the wiki pages.


* Hotspot for wireless phones
* web server for Asterisk (billing, settings) - maybe thttpd since it 
also can IPv6

* IPv6 in the second step (I think @home cannot IPv6)
* astcc
* h.323 module
* wakeup
* festival  (Maybe the CPU / RAM is too low for that)
* MOH
* voice mail
* ???

What do you think about it? Is the 4801 right for that?


I'm afraid CPU and RAM is to low for all that things (some test result will
follow in the next days)
The TDM422 could be to large for the case provided by soekris, so you have to
use your own case.



Some questions about Soekris:
What is in the package? (Power adapter?, CF?, manual? ...)


In the package is only the board (in the case if orderd with case). You 
have to

order power adapter too.
The manual you can found on the web page. CF is not included.


How to install it?


http://www.soekris.com/support.htm
I used Running Debian Linux, by Mike Machado
After the initial installation, I updated to standard debian via Internet.

What is the CF size you are using? and how much is still free? What 
have you installed?


First I used a 256MB CF card. It is enought for the installation 
described in my

last mail. Round about 60MB was still free.
But now I added hylafax. That need a lot of space, because it needs 
ghostscript

to convert and ghostscript wanted some x-libraries. :-(
So I have replaced the 256MB CF with a 2GB micro drive (only ~350MB 
used at the

moment) . This has some more advantages. I think smart drive have more
read/write-cycles. Thats better for voicemail and fax.


bye

Jens

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Is soekris good?

2005-07-21 Thread Juraj Bednar
Hello,

   I just got my Soekris 4801 box for use with Asterisk, but not as a
primary Asterisk server.

 * [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Is @home or regular better?)

   If you want to run from CF, I recommend running some distribution
(that does not take much space) and your own Asterisk... I'm not even
sure if it be that easy to install Asterisk on Soekris in the first
place.

I found documentation not being that good for installs, I found a
wonderful page describing the install process:
http://www.ultradesic.com/index.php?section=22

 * Shorwall firewall

Try to get a real firewall, Shorewall has quite high latency. You
should optimize...

 * QoS

This could be quite CPU intensive...

 * astcc
 * h.323 module
 * wakeup
 * festival  (Maybe the CPU / RAM is too low for that)
 * MOH
 * voice mail
 * ???

Some things are quite CPU intensive. Why do you want to use
Soekris BTW? Some more powerful Mini-ITX could do the job better I
believe. Don't take me wrong, I love those Soekris boxes, but it's
266MHz Goede processor, you want far too much from it I believe...
 
 Some questions about Soekris:
 What is in the package? (Power adapter?, CF?, manual? ...)

 Nothing, just box and the board.

 How to install it?

 See the link above.

 What is the CF size you are using? and how much is still free? What have
 you installed?

 For my setup I installed OpenBSD, although I primarily use Debian
GNU/Linux. The OpenBSD choice was because of the vpn card for Soekris,
which is better supported under OpenBSD. I installed the base package
except games and manual pages, about 60MB was still free (I used 256MB
compact flash card).


   Juraj.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Is soekris good?

2005-07-21 Thread Richard Bennett
On Thursday 21 July 2005 23:16, Juraj Bednar wrote:
  * Shorwall firewall

     Try to get a real firewall, Shorewall has quite high latency. You
 should optimize...

Can you explain that?
Shorewall is just a set of scripts to help you setup IPtables for Netfilter.
Once Shorewall has done its configuring, it does not do anything more, so how 
could it cause latency?
By a 'real firewall' you mean a hardware firewall? What better hardware 
firewall than a Linux box?

I'm interested because I send all my VOIP traffic through a Linux firewall 
using Shorewall to configure Netfilter, and wouldn't want to be causing 
latency with it.

Richard.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Is soekris good?

2005-07-20 Thread Ronald_Wiplinger

asterisk_on_oelf wrote:


Hi,

I have a soekris 4801 since some days. I use it with a FritzCard-USB 
and an
internal HFC-Card (NT Mode). Everything is working, but I still havn't 
had time
for performance test. Only thing I tested, was two ISDN channels via 
FritzCard

in a conference room. CPU usage was nearly 70%
I hope next weekend I'll find more time.

What WiFi phone do you want to use? I tried a ZyXEL P2000W, but voice 
quality

was very bad.


Jens,

I am trying to find out what is the best board for us.
I want to build an asterisk based PBX with one digium TDM422 card.
A USB wireless adapter should make the entire system with:
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Is @home or regular better?)
* Shorwall firewall
* QoS
* Hotspot for wireless phones
* web server for Asterisk (billing, settings) - maybe thttpd since it 
also can IPv6

* IPv6 in the second step (I think @home cannot IPv6)
* astcc
* h.323 module
* wakeup
* festival  (Maybe the CPU / RAM is too low for that)
* MOH
* voice mail
* ???

What do you think about it? Is the 4801 right for that?

Some questions about Soekris:
What is in the package? (Power adapter?, CF?, manual? ...)
How to install it?
What is the CF size you are using? and how much is still free? What have 
you installed?


We are in the process to develop a WiFi phone, 


bye

Ronald

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Is soekris good?

2005-07-14 Thread asterisk_on_oelf

Hi,

I have a soekris 4801 since some days. I use it with a FritzCard-USB and an
internal HFC-Card (NT Mode). Everything is working, but I still havn't 
had time

for performance test. Only thing I tested, was two ISDN channels via FritzCard
in a conference room. CPU usage was nearly 70%
I hope next weekend I'll find more time.

What WiFi phone do you want to use? I tried a ZyXEL P2000W, but voice quality
was very bad.

regards
Jens



We found at the wiki a link to soekris and wonder if it is good?

Is anybody using it and can share some experience, please?

We would like to use it as a small PBX including a wireless access
point, so that we can also use WiFi phones.


bye

Ronald

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[Asterisk-Users] Is soekris good?

2005-07-13 Thread Ronald_Wiplinger

We found at the wiki a link to soekris and wonder if it is good?

Is anybody using it and can share some experience, please?

We would like to use it as a small PBX including a wireless access 
point, so that we can also use WiFi phones.



bye

Ronald

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