Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoIP Problems?
On Mon, Mar 07, 2005 at 12:10:48AM +, Mike Dent wrote: BT providing IAX2 and SIP termination? Hmmm, maybe one day. Telstra (BTs equiv in Australia) is trialling a VoIP service. Unfortunatly, it's not quite clear what services they'll be providing... -- Martijn van Oosterhout Ecomtel Pty Ltd ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoIP Problems?
Asterisk guy wrote: www.mutualphone.com This company only accepts CC via PayPal doesn't sound good to me, right up there with shopping on ebay. No published address, service by calling card. Not sure about this one. Lots of red flags. I guess if it sounds too good to be true, it is. My 2cents Greg ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoIP Problems?
Jay Milk wrote: snip and you need rock-solid performance, there are a couple of contenders out there. My most problem-free provider so far has been Vonage -- they're not very flexible, and not very open to work with their customers, but that's probably why their service has the best uptime of all the ones I used so far. Broadvoice -- read thread. Iax.cc started off promising, but it's getting spotty in places. Myphonecompany.com so far (going on three weeks) has a solid track record. Only one issue so far, and that was on my end. Aren't these just Retailers? Greg ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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on 3/4/05 22:18, Tim at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone having problems with LiveVoIP lately? I am seeing failed outgoing calls. Calls that are being routed to wrong numbers. DID's that ring busy. For the pass 2 days I am unable to pass CID. Is anyone else have these problems? Can anyone recommend a Quality VoIP provider? I wonder if LiveVOIP uses Voice Conduits or vice-versa. Voice Conduits has been down since Friday too. :-( -- R.J. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoIP Problems?
As a VOIP provider myself for a quite a while, I can't help but point out that if the current USA market rate for termination wasn't so unrealistic (around one cent), most upcoming telecom providers would be able to give a much better service. No wonder big telcos' market rate is higher than that. Oh well, just very wishful thinking... and my 2 cents C. Savinovich PS: I think LIVEVOIP guys are terrific, and think they have a great future ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoIP Problems?
- Original Message - From: Jay Milk [EMAIL PROTECTED] You won't be able to send caller-id NAME with any PSTN termination. That's just not how that works. Each CLEC looks up the name in some mystical database based on the phone number. How to get that DB, I don't know, but it sure would be nice to integrate something like this into *, wouldn't it? Sure, but wouldn't LiveVoip be using PRI as opposed to PSTN? I dunno about in the US, but here (Canada) we've got switch-based CallerID and user-based CallerID. As long as you're using a PRI based line the user can fire both caller number and caller name to the telco and see the results on the other side (user-based). If this isn't available in the US then that's fine, but otherwise it'd be nice to be able to send caller name along with the number through LiveVoip. regards, Paul ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoIP Problems?
-Original Message- Sure, but wouldn't LiveVoip be using PRI as opposed to PSTN? I dunno about in the US, but here (Canada) we've got switch-based CallerID and user-based CallerID. As long as you're using a PRI based line the user can fire both caller number and caller name to the telco and see the results on the other side (user-based). If this isn't available in the US then that's fine, but otherwise it'd be nice to be able to send caller name along with the number through LiveVoip. it's definitely available in the US... it's usually called setting the outbound ANI W. Kevin Hunt CCIE #11841 MCSE, Linux+ SME www.huntbrothers.com ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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Afaik, caller-id name is not passed on between lecs and clecs (via SS7) -- that's what I remember from a thread I read here in the past. That's why most clecs maintain their own DBs, and that's also why it takes weeks for callerid information to propagate, and why your name may show up in different variations (or not at all) depending where you call. To clarify -- PSTN termination to me means any VOIP service that terminates to PSTN. I have yet to see an IAX or SIP service provider that passes on caller-name via PRI or SS7 to the PSTN. And even if they did, chances of the name arriving at the called number are slim to none. -Original Message- From: Paul Fielding [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 4:21 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoIP Problems? - Original Message - From: Jay Milk [EMAIL PROTECTED] You won't be able to send caller-id NAME with any PSTN termination. That's just not how that works. Each CLEC looks up the name in some mystical database based on the phone number. How to get that DB, I don't know, but it sure would be nice to integrate something like this into *, wouldn't it? Sure, but wouldn't LiveVoip be using PRI as opposed to PSTN? I dunno about in the US, but here (Canada) we've got switch-based CallerID and user-based CallerID. As long as you're using a PRI based line the user can fire both caller number and caller name to the telco and see the results on the other side (user-based). If this isn't available in the US then that's fine, but otherwise it'd be nice to be able to send caller name along with the number through LiveVoip. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoIP Problems?
Makes you wonder how many *really* reliable VoIP providers there are out there? Who would you trust to handle all your incoming/outgoing business calls? Mike On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 21:18:41 -0600, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone having problems with LiveVoIP lately? I am seeing failed outgoing calls. Calls that are being routed to wrong numbers. DID's that ring busy. For the pass 2 days I am unable to pass CID. Is anyone else have these problems? Can anyone recommend a Quality VoIP provider? ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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Mike Dent wrote: Makes you wonder how many *really* reliable VoIP providers there are out there? Who would you trust to handle all your incoming/outgoing business calls? None. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoIP Problems?
So you want it 100% perfect and you want it for peanuts. Makes you wonder how many *really* reliable VoIP providers there are out there? Who would you trust to handle all your incoming/outgoing business calls? Mike On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 21:18:41 -0600, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone having problems with LiveVoIP lately? I am seeing failed outgoing calls. Calls that are being routed to wrong numbers. DID's that ring busy. For the pass 2 days I am unable to pass CID. Is anyone else have these problems? Can anyone recommend a Quality VoIP provider? ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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No. When DID go down for a whole day. Do you think thats okay? Ring busy half time or do nothing at all. Come on! Your DID's are up maybe 50% of the time if that! Why are calls failing again today? On Sun, 2005-03-06 at 17:36, The Phone Guys wrote: So you want it 100% perfect and you want it for peanuts. Makes you wonder how many *really* reliable VoIP providers there are out there? Who would you trust to handle all your incoming/outgoing business calls? Mike On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 21:18:41 -0600, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone having problems with LiveVoIP lately? I am seeing failed outgoing calls. Calls that are being routed to wrong numbers. DID's that ring busy. For the pass 2 days I am unable to pass CID. Is anyone else have these problems? Can anyone recommend a Quality VoIP provider? ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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No, I dont mind paying more for something if I know its going to be reliable. On Sun, 6 Mar 2005 16:36:16 -0700, The Phone Guys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So you want it 100% perfect and you want it for peanuts. Makes you wonder how many *really* reliable VoIP providers there are out there? Who would you trust to handle all your incoming/outgoing business calls? Mike On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 21:18:41 -0600, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone having problems with LiveVoIP lately? I am seeing failed outgoing calls. Calls that are being routed to wrong numbers. DID's that ring busy. For the pass 2 days I am unable to pass CID. Is anyone else have these problems? Can anyone recommend a Quality VoIP provider? ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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The Phone Guys wrote: So you want it 100% perfect and you want it for peanuts. OF COURSE! They all certainly imply and promise that. Would anyone subscribe if they said we have a second rate service ? Makes you wonder how many *really* reliable VoIP providers there are out there? Who would you trust to handle all your incoming/outgoing business calls? Mike On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 21:18:41 -0600, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone having problems with LiveVoIP lately? I am seeing failed outgoing calls. Calls that are being routed to wrong numbers. DID's that ring busy. For the pass 2 days I am unable to pass CID. Is anyone else have these problems? Can anyone recommend a Quality VoIP provider? ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoIP Problems?
What do folks have to say about www.voipjet.com? (IAX, call termination only) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Novack Sent: Montag, 7. März 2005 00:58 To: The Phone Guys; Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoIP Problems? The Phone Guys wrote: So you want it 100% perfect and you want it for peanuts. OF COURSE! They all certainly imply and promise that. Would anyone subscribe if they said we have a second rate service ? Makes you wonder how many *really* reliable VoIP providers there are out there? Who would you trust to handle all your incoming/outgoing business calls? Mike On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 21:18:41 -0600, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone having problems with LiveVoIP lately? I am seeing failed outgoing calls. Calls that are being routed to wrong numbers. DID's that ring busy. For the pass 2 days I am unable to pass CID. Is anyone else have these problems? Can anyone recommend a Quality VoIP provider? ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoIP Problems?
Looks like if you complain. They terminate your account. Or is this just another BUG Mar 6 17:57:56 NOTICE[18108]: chan_iax2.c:6695 socket_read: Registration of 'wdsmn' rejected: Registration Refused Mar 6 17:57:56 NOTICE[18108]: chan_iax2.c:6695 socket_read: Registration of 'tschacher' rejected: Registration Refused Mar 6 17:58:46 NOTICE[18108]: chan_iax2.c:6695 socket_read: Registration of 'wdsmn' rejected: Registration Refused Mar 6 17:58:46 NOTICE[18108]: chan_iax2.c:6695 socket_read: Registration of 'tschacher' rejected: Registration Refused Mar 6 17:59:36 NOTICE[18108]: chan_iax2.c:6695 socket_read: Registration of 'wdsmn' rejected: Registration Refused Mar 6 17:59:36 NOTICE[18108]: chan_iax2.c:6695 socket_read: Registration of 'tschacher' rejected: Registration Refused Mar 6 18:00:26 NOTICE[18108]: chan_iax2.c:6695 socket_read: Registration of 'wdsmn' rejected: Registration Refused Mar 6 18:00:26 NOTICE[18108]: chan_iax2.c:6695 socket_read: Registration of 'tschacher' rejected: Registration Refused Mar 6 18:01:16 NOTICE[18108]: chan_iax2.c:6695 socket_read: Registration of 'wdsmn' rejected: Registration Refused Mar 6 18:01:16 NOTICE[18108]: chan_iax2.c:6695 socket_read: Registration of 'tschacher' rejected: Registration Refused On Sun, 2005-03-06 at 17:57, John Novack wrote: The Phone Guys wrote: So you want it 100% perfect and you want it for peanuts. OF COURSE! They all certainly imply and promise that. Would anyone subscribe if they said we have a second rate service ? Makes you wonder how many *really* reliable VoIP providers there are out there? Who would you trust to handle all your incoming/outgoing business calls? Mike On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 21:18:41 -0600, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone having problems with LiveVoIP lately? I am seeing failed outgoing calls. Calls that are being routed to wrong numbers. DID's that ring busy. For the pass 2 days I am unable to pass CID. Is anyone else have these problems? Can anyone recommend a Quality VoIP provider? ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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Maybe at some stage in the future the big telcos will provide VoIP termination, DID's etc. They may as well make some money from it, I'm sure they could get it right? BT providing IAX2 and SIP termination? Hmmm, maybe one day. Mike ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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*shrug*. Mine's been working flawlessly since I've had it (~month). The only 2 issues I have are the ringback problem, and I can only send callerid number info to them, not name info Guess we'll see how long it lasts regards, Paul - Original Message - From: Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Phone Guys [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 4:45 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoIP Problems? No. When DID go down for a whole day. Do you think thats okay? Ring busy half time or do nothing at all. Come on! Your DID's are up maybe 50% of the time if that! Why are calls failing again today? On Sun, 2005-03-06 at 17:36, The Phone Guys wrote: So you want it 100% perfect and you want it for peanuts. Makes you wonder how many *really* reliable VoIP providers there are out there? Who would you trust to handle all your incoming/outgoing business calls? Mike On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 21:18:41 -0600, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone having problems with LiveVoIP lately? I am seeing failed outgoing calls. Calls that are being routed to wrong numbers. DID's that ring busy. For the pass 2 days I am unable to pass CID. Is anyone else have these problems? Can anyone recommend a Quality VoIP provider? ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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No, I want it to work 50% of the time and pay half your current pricing. Or maybe we can make this really easy for you to understand. Make it work 0% of the time and we pay you nothing. I think that people expect it to work about 99.99% of the time if they are going to use it for production purposes. Get your act together and raise prices if necessary in order to keep it together. The Phone Guys wrote: So you want it 100% perfect and you want it for peanuts. Makes you wonder how many *really* reliable VoIP providers there are out there? Who would you trust to handle all your incoming/outgoing business calls? Mike On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 21:18:41 -0600, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone having problems with LiveVoIP lately? I am seeing failed outgoing calls. Calls that are being routed to wrong numbers. DID's that ring busy. For the pass 2 days I am unable to pass CID. Is anyone else have these problems? Can anyone recommend a Quality VoIP provider? ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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I just got off the phone with LiveVoIP. They have address most if not all of my current issues. These guys are BIG players in the VoIP biz. A long with that comes big problems. They are working on the issues. Let's just give them a break this time around. On Sun, 2005-03-06 at 19:07, Paul wrote: No, I want it to work 50% of the time and pay half your current pricing. Or maybe we can make this really easy for you to understand. Make it work 0% of the time and we pay you nothing. I think that people expect it to work about 99.99% of the time if they are going to use it for production purposes. Get your act together and raise prices if necessary in order to keep it together. The Phone Guys wrote: So you want it 100% perfect and you want it for peanuts. Makes you wonder how many *really* reliable VoIP providers there are out there? Who would you trust to handle all your incoming/outgoing business calls? Mike On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 21:18:41 -0600, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone having problems with LiveVoIP lately? I am seeing failed outgoing calls. Calls that are being routed to wrong numbers. DID's that ring busy. For the pass 2 days I am unable to pass CID. Is anyone else have these problems? Can anyone recommend a Quality VoIP provider? ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoIP Problems?
I have about 10 DIDs, I had an issue that lasted a day or so that was Level 3's issue, it took about 12 seconds before the calls would come in. That was resolved and I haven't had any issues at all. I appreciate the fact that there are reselling Level 3 DIDs since they seem to be in a lot of cities, towns and now some burgs. I have had excellent support response anytime that I have had issues. I have talked to several folks there when the issue of the long wait for the call to complete. I also had a call that advised me that the ringback issue appeared to be with asterisk. I explained to them, like others have, that the issue is only with LiveVOIP not with other providers that I also have like TXLINK, Teliax, NuFone. I am not a programmer, but they advised me that they problem didn't reside in SIP. So, I took a chance to try it. I ordered yet another DID with SIP vs IAX. No ringback issue on the SIP configured DID at all. Just to clarify, the ringback issue I have had (I believe this is what everyone is talking about) is if you answer via IVR and then complete the call you hear no ring back. Or whenever the call has been answered on the asterisk box then you transfer you have no ring back. I know that some of the issues isn't just LiveVOIP it's Level 3. I have talked with some other providers and Level 3 has scared them off. I hope that Level 3 can improve upon their delivery, in turn, I feel that with better support from them, you will see LiveVOIP having less issues. I think LiveVOIP is trying to do a lot for the VOIP community, IMHO, but that's just me. My only complaints I have is that they would port local DIDs and Toll free. I understand they will be porting Toll free soon. Overall, you can get lots of DIDs from lots of areas, IAX or SIP, your choice, they have lots of different rate plans, you can see your calls immediately via their web site, and again, I have absolutely no complaint with them getting back to me (sales or support). As soon as I have sent an email, I get the automated response that they have my issue and then I get a response. Lots of times it has been after business hours and on the week-ends, even though they state that they may not get back to you until the next business day. This is just my opinion and experiences of course. But again, I think Level 3 has their share of issues to get fixed so the then end providers can do their job better. It does appear to me, that the list beats up the providers very quickly. I can't even count the emails you see on a weekly basis on BroadVoice. There is MyPhoneCompany as well, they don't indicate on their website that they do asterisk, but they certainly do. If you are unhappy with your provider, find another. There are more popping up everyday, I don't think the original phone companies will have a whole lot to offer as far as service. Remember Lily Tomlin we are the phone company, we don't have to care, they will give you what they want to give you and if you don't like it, then it's too bad. I try and work with the providers. Maybe if we see what we can do to help them vs. slamming them every time there is a burp. I don't thing anyone is offering 100% uninterrupted service, or maybe I am wrong. Again, my opinion. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Fielding Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 8:03 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoIP Problems? *shrug*. Mine's been working flawlessly since I've had it (~month). The only 2 issues I have are the ringback problem, and I can only send callerid number info to them, not name info Guess we'll see how long it lasts regards, Paul - Original Message - From: Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Phone Guys [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 4:45 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoIP Problems? No. When DID go down for a whole day. Do you think thats okay? Ring busy half time or do nothing at all. Come on! Your DID's are up maybe 50% of the time if that! Why are calls failing again today? On Sun, 2005-03-06 at 17:36, The Phone Guys wrote: So you want it 100% perfect and you want it for peanuts. Makes you wonder how many *really* reliable VoIP providers there are out there? Who would you trust to handle all your incoming/outgoing business calls? Mike On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 21:18:41 -0600, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone having problems with LiveVoIP lately? I am seeing failed outgoing calls. Calls that are being routed to wrong numbers. DID's that ring busy. For the pass 2 days I am unable to pass CID. Is anyone else have these problems? Can anyone recommend a Quality VoIP provider
RE: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoIP Problems?
No downtime yet. Also good experience with simpletelecom -- for IAX termination, there's really no serious cost in using multiple accounts, except for having to check your balances every so often. Get two or three, line them up nicely in your dial-plan, and if one fails, go through the other. The issue is always with DIDs -- if a line is done, you're stuck, unless your provider has a failover arrangement. There doesn't seem to be too much choice for IAX origination, but if you're willing to look into SIP, and you need rock-solid performance, there are a couple of contenders out there. My most problem-free provider so far has been Vonage -- they're not very flexible, and not very open to work with their customers, but that's probably why their service has the best uptime of all the ones I used so far. Broadvoice -- read thread. Iax.cc started off promising, but it's getting spotty in places. Myphonecompany.com so far (going on three weeks) has a solid track record. Only one issue so far, and that was on my end. -Original Message- From: Roman Zhovtulya [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 6:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoIP Problems? What do folks have to say about www.voipjet.com? (IAX, call termination only) ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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You won't be able to send caller-id NAME with any PSTN termination. That's just not how that works. Each CLEC looks up the name in some mystical database based on the phone number. How to get that DB, I don't know, but it sure would be nice to integrate something like this into *, wouldn't it? -Original Message- From: Paul Fielding [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 7:03 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoIP Problems? *shrug*. Mine's been working flawlessly since I've had it (~month). The only 2 issues I have are the ringback problem, and I can only send callerid number info to them, not name info Guess we'll see how long it lasts regards, Paul ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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Near 100% for a resonable price that you have set and the ability for both the provider and consumer to understand how to work together and make sure that companies that providers are buying their service from understands the impact of what out of services means to the consumers. I like the idea too of help us to help you so you can help yourself to help your provider so that we have good dependable service. The company that provides the best service will retain the incoming and the others with the attitudes will lose, somewhere someone once said the customer is always right, I guess that doesn't apply any more. --- The Phone Guys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So you want it 100% perfect and you want it for peanuts. Makes you wonder how many *really* reliable VoIP providers there are out there? Who would you trust to handle all your incoming/outgoing business calls? Mike On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 21:18:41 -0600, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone having problems with LiveVoIP lately? I am seeing failed outgoing calls. Calls that are being routed to wrong numbers. DID's that ring busy. For the pass 2 days I am unable to pass CID. Is anyone else have these problems? Can anyone recommend a Quality VoIP provider? ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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I have used them for 6 months with few issues. Good rates as well. Michael On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 01:05:01 +0100, Roman Zhovtulya wrote: What do folks have to say about www.voipjet.com? (IAX, call termination only) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Novack Sent: Montag, 7. März 2005 00:58 To: The Phone Guys; Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoIP Problems? The Phone Guys wrote: So you want it 100% perfect and you want it for peanuts. OF COURSE! They all certainly imply and promise that. Would anyone subscribe if they said we have a second rate service ? Makes you wonder how many *really* reliable VoIP providers there are out there? Who would you trust to handle all your incoming/outgoing business calls? Mike On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 21:18:41 -0600, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone having problems with LiveVoIP lately? I am seeing failed outgoing calls. Calls that are being routed to wrong numbers. DID's that ring busy. For the pass 2 days I am unable to pass CID. Is anyone else have these problems? Can anyone recommend a Quality VoIP provider? ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Michael Graves [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sr. Product Specialist www.pixelpower.com Pixel Power Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] o713-861-4005 o800-905-6412 c713-201-1262 ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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Jay Milk wrote: You won't be able to send caller-id NAME with any PSTN termination. That's just not how that works. Each CLEC looks up the name in some mystical database based on the phone number. And pays the keeper of the database for each lookup. Also, more than one database exists. How to get that DB, I don't know, Short answer is, you can't AFAIK, it is only available to ILEC and CLEC's John Novack but it sure would be nice to integrate something like this into *, wouldn't it? ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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On Sun, 6 Mar 2005 20:22:48 -0500 Steven Frazier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have about 10 DIDs, I had an issue that lasted a day or so that was Level 3's issue, it took about 12 seconds before the calls would come in. That was resolved and I haven't had any issues at all. I appreciate the fact that there are reselling Level 3 DIDs since they seem to be in a lot of cities, towns and now some burgs. I have had excellent support response anytime that I have had issues. I have talked to several folks there when the issue of the long wait for the call to complete. I also had a call that advised me that the ringback issue appeared to be with asterisk. I explained to them, like others have, that the issue is only with LiveVOIP not with other providers that I also have like TXLINK, Teliax, NuFone. I am not a programmer, but they advised me that they problem didn't reside in SIP. So, I took a chance to try it. I ordered yet another DID with SIP vs IAX. No ringback issue on the SIP configured DID at all. Just to clarify, the ringback issue I have had (I believe this is what everyone is talking about) is if you answer via IVR and then complete the call you hear no ring back. Or whenever the call has been answered on the asterisk box then you transfer you have no ring back. I also have the ring back issue with LiveVoIP... I verified this and it is the issue with the IVR answering first and when ringing an extension, there is no ringback to the caller. However, I cannot fault Level 3 for this problem. I have a second DID through Voicepulse which is also a Level 3 number. Their ringback over IAX works perfect everytime. So for LiveVoIP to be blaming Asterisk for this problem is plain BS. It is obvious they just do not know how to configure their systems. If you cannot get it right, quit blaming everyone else and take responsibility for your issues. I should have known something was up with a company that changed their rates and plans every other day. I know that some of the issues isn't just LiveVOIP it's Level 3. I have talked with some other providers and Level 3 has scared them off. I hope that Level 3 can improve upon their delivery, in turn, I feel that with better support from them, you will see LiveVOIP having less issues. I think LiveVOIP is trying to do a lot for the VOIP community, IMHO, but that's just me. My only complaints I have is that they would port local DIDs and Toll free. I understand they will be porting Toll free soon. Overall, you can get lots of DIDs from lots of areas, IAX or SIP, your choice, they have lots of different rate plans, you can see your calls immediately via their web site, and again, I have absolutely no complaint with them getting back to me (sales or support). As soon as I have sent an email, I get the automated response that they have my issue and then I get a response. Lots of times it has been after business hours and on the week-ends, even though they state that they may not get back to you until the next business day. This is just my opinion and experiences of course. But again, I think Level 3 has their share of issues to get fixed so the then end providers can do their job better. It does appear to me, that the list beats up the providers very quickly. I can't even count the emails you see on a weekly basis on BroadVoice. There is MyPhoneCompany as well, they don't indicate on their website that they do asterisk, but they certainly do. If you are unhappy with your provider, find another. There are more popping up everyday, I don't think the original phone companies will have a whole lot to offer as far as service. Remember Lily Tomlin we are the phone company, we don't have to care, they will give you what they want to give you and if you don't like it, then it's too bad. I try and work with the providers. Maybe if we see what we can do to help them vs. slamming them every time there is a burp. I don't thing anyone is offering 100% uninterrupted service, or maybe I am wrong. Again, my opinion. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Fielding Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 8:03 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoIP Problems? *shrug*. Mine's been working flawlessly since I've had it (~month). The only 2 issues I have are the ringback problem, and I can only send callerid number info to them, not name info Guess we'll see how long it lasts regards, Paul - Original Message - From: Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Phone Guys [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 4:45 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] LiveVoIP Problems? No. When DID go down for a whole day. Do you think thats okay? Ring busy half time or do nothing at all. Come on! Your
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No, I dont mind paying more for something if I know its going to be reliable. Well, now, that's kind of the problem here, isn't it? If VoIP pricing isn't more attractive than LEC line pricing, the slam dunk choice is to go with the traditional LEC service. It's reliable, it's cheap, and it's reliable. Most folks are really not going to want to pay more for VoIP service than what they pay to Ma Bell. This means that you have a small number of choices when pricing out VoIP services. It can be cheap, or it can be cheap, or you can be out of business. ... JG -- Joe Greco - sol.net Network Services - Milwaukee, WI - http://www.sol.net We call it the 'one bite at the apple' rule. Give me one chance [and] then I won't contact you again. - Direct Marketing Ass'n position on e-mail spam(CNN) With 24 million small businesses in the US alone, that's way too many apples. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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Jay Milk wrote: You won't be able to send caller-id NAME with any PSTN termination. That's just not how that works. Each CLEC looks up the name in some mystical database based on the phone number. How to get that DB, I don't know, but it sure would be nice to integrate something like this into *, wouldn't it? SS7 -- Kristian Kielhofner ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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I have to say that I have had excellent service and support from Livevoip as well. Every support issue I have had has been handled inside of 2 hours and that includes weekends. I have had a Sr. VP there call me at midnight on a Saturday night to work out a problem. They have DID's in MANY areas that you won't see elsewhere and buying one is so simple it's childs playjust pick the number you want and click. I have recommended them to others and until they screw up big time, I will continue to use them myself. Of course, all this is moot if you need Asterisk IVR ring-back :) Steven Frazier wrote: I have about 10 DIDs, I had an issue that lasted a day or so that was Level 3's issue, it took about 12 seconds before the calls would come in. That was resolved and I haven't had any issues at all. I appreciate the fact that there are reselling Level 3 DIDs since they seem to be in a lot of cities, towns and now some burgs. I have had excellent support response anytime that I have had issues. I have talked to several folks there when the issue of the long wait for the call to complete. I also had a call that advised me that the ringback issue appeared to be with asterisk. I explained to them, like others have, that the issue is only with LiveVOIP not with other providers that I also have like TXLINK, Teliax, NuFone. I am not a programmer, but they advised me that they problem didn't reside in SIP. So, I took a chance to try it. I ordered yet another DID with SIP vs IAX. No ringback issue on the SIP configured DID at all. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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Anyone having problems with LiveVoIP lately? I am seeing failed outgoing calls. Calls that are being routed to wrong numbers. DID's that ring busy. For the pass 2 days I am unable to pass CID. Is anyone else have these problems? Can anyone recommend a Quality VoIP provider? ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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www.mutualphone.com On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 21:18:41 -0600, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone having problems with LiveVoIP lately? I am seeing failed outgoing calls. Calls that are being routed to wrong numbers. DID's that ring busy. For the pass 2 days I am unable to pass CID. Is anyone else have these problems? Can anyone recommend a Quality VoIP provider? ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
