Re: [Asterisk-Users] New to IP-PBX

2004-07-31 Thread Rich Adamson
 I have been seeing reccomendations for using asterisk as a soft-pbx with
 the reccomendation being to use regular analog phones via FXS rather
 than SIP.
 
 Is this still a big issue? Or is this a left-over from previous bad
 experiences?  I have been doing demos with SIP phones, and some IAXYs to
 whet their apetites, and people are really biting at the feature set I
 can provide, and I have run into no problems yet,  but I would love to
 know at what threshold of SIP phones does the system start to have
 problems.

One of the primary drivers for using FXS rather than SIP is that 
traditional pbx sales people sell their products based primarily 
on least cost. Historically, they use to sell features, least
cost call routing, toll bypass, and other such things as they
use to be popular sales attractions.

Given what has happened to long distance costs, the least cost
call routing kinds of things are not much of a concern on the
part of the buyer any more. As a result, the business oriented
buyer (not technical people) are far more oriented towards initial
cost and features because that's one of the things they can
understand.

If you search the * list you'll find all kinds of postings 
relative to I can configure a cheaper asterisk then you can, 
and if initial cost is a serious factor for the business buyer, 
then FXS is likely the approach.

However, with that said, how you communicate with the business
buyer will make all the difference in the world. If you structure
you sales pitch around cost, you're heading for FXS's. If you
change that pitch, selling solid well-defined sip phones is a
piece of cake.

So, if you understand your customer's actual requirements and
the stability of their network infrastructure, selling sip 
into an account should be easy in most cases.

Rich


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[Asterisk-Users] New to IP-PBX

2004-07-30 Thread Duraid Abbas
Hi,

I'd really appreciate it if you can explain this to me. 

I have a D/41JCT-LS Dialogic board and I want to use it as an IP-PBX.
I'm new to IP Telephony and telephony and general and I researched a lot
but still confused about what I really need.

I know that I can setup an IP-Telephony for my LAN using a SIP server
and SIP compatible software phones. But the challenge is how can I
connect to the PSTN so that I can send and receive calls?

I came through a lot of terms like VoIP gateway and stuff like that but
still don't know what I really need. Can you help?

Thanks in advance

Duraid
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] New to IP-PBX

2004-07-30 Thread Steve Totaro
you need www.voip-info.org


- Original Message - 
From: Duraid Abbas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 2:39 PM
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] New to IP-PBX


Hi,

I'd really appreciate it if you can explain this to me. 

I have a D/41JCT-LS Dialogic board and I want to use it as an IP-PBX.
I'm new to IP Telephony and telephony and general and I researched a lot
but still confused about what I really need.

I know that I can setup an IP-Telephony for my LAN using a SIP server
and SIP compatible software phones. But the challenge is how can I
connect to the PSTN so that I can send and receive calls?

I came through a lot of terms like VoIP gateway and stuff like that but
still don't know what I really need. Can you help?

Thanks in advance

Duraid
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] New to IP-PBX

2004-07-30 Thread Jay Milk
To connect to the PSTN (existing line), you'll need an FXO port.
Easiest way to get one is to put in a Digium X100P card.  Not sure
whether the Dialogic board is compatible with Asterisk, nor even what it
does.

 -Original Message-
 From: Duraid Abbas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 1:39 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Asterisk-Users] New to IP-PBX
 
 
 Hi,
 
 I'd really appreciate it if you can explain this to me. 
 
 I have a D/41JCT-LS Dialogic board and I want to use it as an 
 IP-PBX. I'm new to IP Telephony and telephony and general and 
 I researched a lot but still confused about what I really need.
 
 I know that I can setup an IP-Telephony for my LAN using a 
 SIP server and SIP compatible software phones. But the 
 challenge is how can I connect to the PSTN so that I can send 
 and receive calls?
 
 I came through a lot of terms like VoIP gateway and stuff 
 like that but still don't know what I really need. Can you help?
 
 Thanks in advance
 
 Duraid


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] New to IP-PBX

2004-07-30 Thread Nicolas Gudino
Hello,

On Fri, 2004-07-30 at 15:39, Duraid Abbas wrote:
 I have a D/41JCT-LS Dialogic board and I want to use it as an IP-PBX.
 I'm new to IP Telephony and telephony and general and I researched a lot
 but still confused about what I really need.
 
 I know that I can setup an IP-Telephony for my LAN using a SIP server
 and SIP compatible software phones. But the challenge is how can I
 connect to the PSTN so that I can send and receive calls?

Asterisk will do a wonderfull job as a soft PBX, but my advice is to use
hardware from Digium to connet to the PSTN (FXO or T1/E1) and to connect
regular analog phones (FXS or T1/E1+ChannelBank):

http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=hardware_products

Before purchasing hardware, you can try to set up Asterisk just with SIP
softphones and get it to know the platform. Once you are comfortable you
can jump on buying some hardware. 

If you do not have time to investigate yourself search for Asterisk
consultants on http://www.voip-info.org

Best regards,

-- 
Nicolas Gudino [EMAIL PROTECTED]
House Internet S.R.L.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] New to IP-PBX

2004-07-30 Thread Chris Shaw
The Dialogic boards are intel's version of the wildcard adaptors... I
believe the one he's referring to has like 4 FXO Ports, just like the
TDM400P...

I think I've read that dialogic boards *ARE* compatible with *, but have not
seen any specific examples of such a configuration...


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Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 1:23 PM
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] New to IP-PBX


 To connect to the PSTN (existing line), you'll need an FXO port.
 Easiest way to get one is to put in a Digium X100P card.  Not sure
 whether the Dialogic board is compatible with Asterisk, nor even what it
 does.

  -Original Message-
  From: Duraid Abbas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 1:39 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [Asterisk-Users] New to IP-PBX
 
 
  Hi,
 
  I'd really appreciate it if you can explain this to me.
 
  I have a D/41JCT-LS Dialogic board and I want to use it as an
  IP-PBX. I'm new to IP Telephony and telephony and general and
  I researched a lot but still confused about what I really need.
 
  I know that I can setup an IP-Telephony for my LAN using a
  SIP server and SIP compatible software phones. But the
  challenge is how can I connect to the PSTN so that I can send
  and receive calls?
 
  I came through a lot of terms like VoIP gateway and stuff
  like that but still don't know what I really need. Can you help?
 
  Thanks in advance
 
  Duraid


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] New to IP-PBX

2004-07-30 Thread James Richards
I have been seeing reccomendations for using asterisk as a soft-pbx with
the reccomendation being to use regular analog phones via FXS rather
than SIP.

Is this still a big issue? Or is this a left-over from previous bad
experiences?  I have been doing demos with SIP phones, and some IAXYs to
whet their apetites, and people are really biting at the feature set I
can provide, and I have run into no problems yet,  but I would love to
know at what threshold of SIP phones does the system start to have
problems.

  The assumption in my scenario is a quality ASUS motherboard, running
RedHat/Debian, 512 MB RAM 10/100 Ethernet, P4 2.4 Ghz processor.

  I am trying to hit the small office market, with up to 20 SIP phones,
and up to 8 POTS lines. (These have been my current limits until I see
the system inaction a bit more)

  Is the problem in using dissimilar SIP phones with different codecs?
Thus burdening the processor with conversion on top of all of the other
work it is doing?

PS, I am having a whale of a time with this software,  and I appreciate
the helpfullness of members of the community...

Jim Richards
Kissyfish

On Fri, 2004-07-30 at 15:31, Nicolas Gudino wrote:
 Hello,
 
 On Fri, 2004-07-30 at 15:39, Duraid Abbas wrote:
  I have a D/41JCT-LS Dialogic board and I want to use it as an IP-PBX.
  I'm new to IP Telephony and telephony and general and I researched a lot
  but still confused about what I really need.
  
  I know that I can setup an IP-Telephony for my LAN using a SIP server
  and SIP compatible software phones. But the challenge is how can I
  connect to the PSTN so that I can send and receive calls?
 
 Asterisk will do a wonderfull job as a soft PBX, but my advice is to use
 hardware from Digium to connet to the PSTN (FXO or T1/E1) and to connect
 regular analog phones (FXS or T1/E1+ChannelBank):
 
 http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=hardware_products
 
 Before purchasing hardware, you can try to set up Asterisk just with SIP
 softphones and get it to know the platform. Once you are comfortable you
 can jump on buying some hardware. 
 
 If you do not have time to investigate yourself search for Asterisk
 consultants on http://www.voip-info.org
 
 Best regards,

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] New to IP-PBX

2004-07-30 Thread Jay Milk
If you don't do any transcoding, and turn canreinvite=on for your
sip-clients, there shouldn't be a reason why you couldn't run hundreds
or thousands of extensions on a Celeron 500.  Once you get into
transcoding (or you turn canreinvite=off in order to allow for recording
of conversations), processor speed matters.  AFAIK, the #1 reason for
recommending POTS over SIP is that in an all-IP system, you'll need a
timing source, and that can be tricky on some systems.

 -Original Message-
 From: James Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 4:18 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] New to IP-PBX
 
 
 I have been seeing reccomendations for using asterisk as a 
 soft-pbx with the reccomendation being to use regular analog 
 phones via FXS rather than SIP.
 
 Is this still a big issue? Or is this a left-over from 
 previous bad experiences?  I have been doing demos with SIP 
 phones, and some IAXYs to whet their apetites, and people are 
 really biting at the feature set I can provide, and I have 
 run into no problems yet,  but I would love to know at what 
 threshold of SIP phones does the system start to have problems.
 
   The assumption in my scenario is a quality ASUS 
 motherboard, running RedHat/Debian, 512 MB RAM 10/100 
 Ethernet, P4 2.4 Ghz processor.
 
   I am trying to hit the small office market, with up to 20 
 SIP phones, and up to 8 POTS lines. (These have been my 
 current limits until I see the system inaction a bit more)
 
   Is the problem in using dissimilar SIP phones with 
 different codecs? Thus burdening the processor with 
 conversion on top of all of the other work it is doing?
 
 PS, I am having a whale of a time with this software,  and I 
 appreciate the helpfullness of members of the community...
 
 Jim Richards
 Kissyfish
 
 On Fri, 2004-07-30 at 15:31, Nicolas Gudino wrote:
  Hello,
  
  On Fri, 2004-07-30 at 15:39, Duraid Abbas wrote:
   I have a D/41JCT-LS Dialogic board and I want to use it as an 
   IP-PBX. I'm new to IP Telephony and telephony and general and I 
   researched a lot but still confused about what I really need.
   
   I know that I can setup an IP-Telephony for my LAN using a SIP 
   server and SIP compatible software phones. But the 
 challenge is how 
   can I connect to the PSTN so that I can send and receive calls?
  
  Asterisk will do a wonderfull job as a soft PBX, but my 
 advice is to 
  use hardware from Digium to connet to the PSTN (FXO or 
 T1/E1) and to 
  connect regular analog phones (FXS or T1/E1+ChannelBank):
  
  http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=hardware_products
  
  Before purchasing hardware, you can try to set up Asterisk 
 just with 
  SIP softphones and get it to know the platform. Once you are 
  comfortable you can jump on buying some hardware.
  
  If you do not have time to investigate yourself search for 
 Asterisk 
  consultants on http://www.voip-info.org
  
  Best regards,
 
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] New to IP-PBX

2004-07-30 Thread Brent Franks
 -Original Message-
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jay Milk
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 Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] New to IP-PBX
 
 If you don't do any transcoding, and turn canreinvite=on for your

Not trying to correct you, just putting this in the list so when people
read archived threads on the web or are reading this thread...

The correct syntax for canreinvite=yes not on.

- B

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