Re: [Asterisk-Users] New to IP-PBX
I have been seeing reccomendations for using asterisk as a soft-pbx with the reccomendation being to use regular analog phones via FXS rather than SIP. Is this still a big issue? Or is this a left-over from previous bad experiences? I have been doing demos with SIP phones, and some IAXYs to whet their apetites, and people are really biting at the feature set I can provide, and I have run into no problems yet, but I would love to know at what threshold of SIP phones does the system start to have problems. One of the primary drivers for using FXS rather than SIP is that traditional pbx sales people sell their products based primarily on least cost. Historically, they use to sell features, least cost call routing, toll bypass, and other such things as they use to be popular sales attractions. Given what has happened to long distance costs, the least cost call routing kinds of things are not much of a concern on the part of the buyer any more. As a result, the business oriented buyer (not technical people) are far more oriented towards initial cost and features because that's one of the things they can understand. If you search the * list you'll find all kinds of postings relative to I can configure a cheaper asterisk then you can, and if initial cost is a serious factor for the business buyer, then FXS is likely the approach. However, with that said, how you communicate with the business buyer will make all the difference in the world. If you structure you sales pitch around cost, you're heading for FXS's. If you change that pitch, selling solid well-defined sip phones is a piece of cake. So, if you understand your customer's actual requirements and the stability of their network infrastructure, selling sip into an account should be easy in most cases. Rich ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] New to IP-PBX
Hi, I'd really appreciate it if you can explain this to me. I have a D/41JCT-LS Dialogic board and I want to use it as an IP-PBX. I'm new to IP Telephony and telephony and general and I researched a lot but still confused about what I really need. I know that I can setup an IP-Telephony for my LAN using a SIP server and SIP compatible software phones. But the challenge is how can I connect to the PSTN so that I can send and receive calls? I came through a lot of terms like VoIP gateway and stuff like that but still don't know what I really need. Can you help? Thanks in advance Duraid ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] New to IP-PBX
you need www.voip-info.org - Original Message - From: Duraid Abbas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 2:39 PM Subject: [Asterisk-Users] New to IP-PBX Hi, I'd really appreciate it if you can explain this to me. I have a D/41JCT-LS Dialogic board and I want to use it as an IP-PBX. I'm new to IP Telephony and telephony and general and I researched a lot but still confused about what I really need. I know that I can setup an IP-Telephony for my LAN using a SIP server and SIP compatible software phones. But the challenge is how can I connect to the PSTN so that I can send and receive calls? I came through a lot of terms like VoIP gateway and stuff like that but still don't know what I really need. Can you help? Thanks in advance Duraid ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] New to IP-PBX
To connect to the PSTN (existing line), you'll need an FXO port. Easiest way to get one is to put in a Digium X100P card. Not sure whether the Dialogic board is compatible with Asterisk, nor even what it does. -Original Message- From: Duraid Abbas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 1:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Asterisk-Users] New to IP-PBX Hi, I'd really appreciate it if you can explain this to me. I have a D/41JCT-LS Dialogic board and I want to use it as an IP-PBX. I'm new to IP Telephony and telephony and general and I researched a lot but still confused about what I really need. I know that I can setup an IP-Telephony for my LAN using a SIP server and SIP compatible software phones. But the challenge is how can I connect to the PSTN so that I can send and receive calls? I came through a lot of terms like VoIP gateway and stuff like that but still don't know what I really need. Can you help? Thanks in advance Duraid ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] New to IP-PBX
Hello, On Fri, 2004-07-30 at 15:39, Duraid Abbas wrote: I have a D/41JCT-LS Dialogic board and I want to use it as an IP-PBX. I'm new to IP Telephony and telephony and general and I researched a lot but still confused about what I really need. I know that I can setup an IP-Telephony for my LAN using a SIP server and SIP compatible software phones. But the challenge is how can I connect to the PSTN so that I can send and receive calls? Asterisk will do a wonderfull job as a soft PBX, but my advice is to use hardware from Digium to connet to the PSTN (FXO or T1/E1) and to connect regular analog phones (FXS or T1/E1+ChannelBank): http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=hardware_products Before purchasing hardware, you can try to set up Asterisk just with SIP softphones and get it to know the platform. Once you are comfortable you can jump on buying some hardware. If you do not have time to investigate yourself search for Asterisk consultants on http://www.voip-info.org Best regards, -- Nicolas Gudino [EMAIL PROTECTED] House Internet S.R.L. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] New to IP-PBX
The Dialogic boards are intel's version of the wildcard adaptors... I believe the one he's referring to has like 4 FXO Ports, just like the TDM400P... I think I've read that dialogic boards *ARE* compatible with *, but have not seen any specific examples of such a configuration... - Original Message - From: Jay Milk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 1:23 PM Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] New to IP-PBX To connect to the PSTN (existing line), you'll need an FXO port. Easiest way to get one is to put in a Digium X100P card. Not sure whether the Dialogic board is compatible with Asterisk, nor even what it does. -Original Message- From: Duraid Abbas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 1:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Asterisk-Users] New to IP-PBX Hi, I'd really appreciate it if you can explain this to me. I have a D/41JCT-LS Dialogic board and I want to use it as an IP-PBX. I'm new to IP Telephony and telephony and general and I researched a lot but still confused about what I really need. I know that I can setup an IP-Telephony for my LAN using a SIP server and SIP compatible software phones. But the challenge is how can I connect to the PSTN so that I can send and receive calls? I came through a lot of terms like VoIP gateway and stuff like that but still don't know what I really need. Can you help? Thanks in advance Duraid ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] New to IP-PBX
I have been seeing reccomendations for using asterisk as a soft-pbx with the reccomendation being to use regular analog phones via FXS rather than SIP. Is this still a big issue? Or is this a left-over from previous bad experiences? I have been doing demos with SIP phones, and some IAXYs to whet their apetites, and people are really biting at the feature set I can provide, and I have run into no problems yet, but I would love to know at what threshold of SIP phones does the system start to have problems. The assumption in my scenario is a quality ASUS motherboard, running RedHat/Debian, 512 MB RAM 10/100 Ethernet, P4 2.4 Ghz processor. I am trying to hit the small office market, with up to 20 SIP phones, and up to 8 POTS lines. (These have been my current limits until I see the system inaction a bit more) Is the problem in using dissimilar SIP phones with different codecs? Thus burdening the processor with conversion on top of all of the other work it is doing? PS, I am having a whale of a time with this software, and I appreciate the helpfullness of members of the community... Jim Richards Kissyfish On Fri, 2004-07-30 at 15:31, Nicolas Gudino wrote: Hello, On Fri, 2004-07-30 at 15:39, Duraid Abbas wrote: I have a D/41JCT-LS Dialogic board and I want to use it as an IP-PBX. I'm new to IP Telephony and telephony and general and I researched a lot but still confused about what I really need. I know that I can setup an IP-Telephony for my LAN using a SIP server and SIP compatible software phones. But the challenge is how can I connect to the PSTN so that I can send and receive calls? Asterisk will do a wonderfull job as a soft PBX, but my advice is to use hardware from Digium to connet to the PSTN (FXO or T1/E1) and to connect regular analog phones (FXS or T1/E1+ChannelBank): http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=hardware_products Before purchasing hardware, you can try to set up Asterisk just with SIP softphones and get it to know the platform. Once you are comfortable you can jump on buying some hardware. If you do not have time to investigate yourself search for Asterisk consultants on http://www.voip-info.org Best regards, ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] New to IP-PBX
If you don't do any transcoding, and turn canreinvite=on for your sip-clients, there shouldn't be a reason why you couldn't run hundreds or thousands of extensions on a Celeron 500. Once you get into transcoding (or you turn canreinvite=off in order to allow for recording of conversations), processor speed matters. AFAIK, the #1 reason for recommending POTS over SIP is that in an all-IP system, you'll need a timing source, and that can be tricky on some systems. -Original Message- From: James Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 4:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] New to IP-PBX I have been seeing reccomendations for using asterisk as a soft-pbx with the reccomendation being to use regular analog phones via FXS rather than SIP. Is this still a big issue? Or is this a left-over from previous bad experiences? I have been doing demos with SIP phones, and some IAXYs to whet their apetites, and people are really biting at the feature set I can provide, and I have run into no problems yet, but I would love to know at what threshold of SIP phones does the system start to have problems. The assumption in my scenario is a quality ASUS motherboard, running RedHat/Debian, 512 MB RAM 10/100 Ethernet, P4 2.4 Ghz processor. I am trying to hit the small office market, with up to 20 SIP phones, and up to 8 POTS lines. (These have been my current limits until I see the system inaction a bit more) Is the problem in using dissimilar SIP phones with different codecs? Thus burdening the processor with conversion on top of all of the other work it is doing? PS, I am having a whale of a time with this software, and I appreciate the helpfullness of members of the community... Jim Richards Kissyfish On Fri, 2004-07-30 at 15:31, Nicolas Gudino wrote: Hello, On Fri, 2004-07-30 at 15:39, Duraid Abbas wrote: I have a D/41JCT-LS Dialogic board and I want to use it as an IP-PBX. I'm new to IP Telephony and telephony and general and I researched a lot but still confused about what I really need. I know that I can setup an IP-Telephony for my LAN using a SIP server and SIP compatible software phones. But the challenge is how can I connect to the PSTN so that I can send and receive calls? Asterisk will do a wonderfull job as a soft PBX, but my advice is to use hardware from Digium to connet to the PSTN (FXO or T1/E1) and to connect regular analog phones (FXS or T1/E1+ChannelBank): http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=hardware_products Before purchasing hardware, you can try to set up Asterisk just with SIP softphones and get it to know the platform. Once you are comfortable you can jump on buying some hardware. If you do not have time to investigate yourself search for Asterisk consultants on http://www.voip-info.org Best regards, ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/aster isk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] New to IP-PBX
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jay Milk Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 6:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] New to IP-PBX If you don't do any transcoding, and turn canreinvite=on for your Not trying to correct you, just putting this in the list so when people read archived threads on the web or are reading this thread... The correct syntax for canreinvite=yes not on. - B ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users