Re: [asterisk-users] Overhead paging over IP...
http://www.bogen.com/products/voip/index.html On 9/5/07, Dave Fullerton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Carlos Chavez wrote: I have a customer that has two buildings that are connected with a fiber link. We have a single Asterisk server to cover both buildings. Now the customer went and bought an overhead paging system for the remote building and they want to integrate it with Asterisk. Is there a device that can connect over IP or an ATA that has an audio output port? The buildings are about 500 meters apart so we cannot run a cable from one building to the other just for audio. I have a similar setup where I work. I used a Viking PI-1 unit connected to the amp and a SPA-3000 connected to the viking. This gave me overhead paging and ringing. It did require a little tweaking on the SPA side because the PI-1 only provides 12V instead of the normal 48V to CO port. It's been working fine since it was put in about 8 months ago. I think the Viking unit was about $120. More info in it here: http://www.vikingelectronics.com/products/view_product.php?pid=199# -Dave ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Sign up now for AstriCon 2007! September 25-28th. http://www.astricon.net/ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Overhead paging over IP...
Carlos Chavez wrote: I have a customer that has two buildings that are connected with a fiber link. We have a single Asterisk server to cover both buildings. Now the customer went and bought an overhead paging system for the remote building and they want to integrate it with Asterisk. Is there a device that can connect over IP or an ATA that has an audio output port? The buildings are about 500 meters apart so we cannot run a cable from one building to the other just for audio. I have a similar setup where I work. I used a Viking PI-1 unit connected to the amp and a SPA-3000 connected to the viking. This gave me overhead paging and ringing. It did require a little tweaking on the SPA side because the PI-1 only provides 12V instead of the normal 48V to CO port. It's been working fine since it was put in about 8 months ago. I think the Viking unit was about $120. More info in it here: http://www.vikingelectronics.com/products/view_product.php?pid=199# -Dave ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Overhead paging over IP
I have a customer that has two buildings that are connected with a fiber link. We have a single Asterisk server to cover both buildings. Now the customer went and bought an overhead paging system for the remote building and they want to integrate it with Asterisk. Is there a device that can connect over IP or an ATA that has an audio output port? The buildings are about 500 meters apart so we cannot run a cable from one building to the other just for audio. At one customer site I use a linksys ATA setup with auto answer, connect the tip and ring of the FXS port to the audio input of the overhead paging system, works fine. Also at another customer site, the paging guys installed a audio input device that activates when ring voltage hits the line, http://www.valcom.com/v-9970.htm . Installed an ATA, nothing special, call that extension and device brings the ATA off-hook then bam, your passing audio to the paging system. You can pick these up for ~$200. JR -- JR Richardson Engineering for the Masses ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Overhead paging over IP
The phones you are using might support it already (and not even need the system) the grandstreams I have do, but I can't speak for any others. Quoting JR Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have a customer that has two buildings that are connected with a fiber link. We have a single Asterisk server to cover both buildings. Now the customer went and bought an overhead paging system for the remote building and they want to integrate it with Asterisk. Is there a device that can connect over IP or an ATA that has an audio output port? The buildings are about 500 meters apart so we cannot run a cable from one building to the other just for audio. At one customer site I use a linksys ATA setup with auto answer, connect the tip and ring of the FXS port to the audio input of the overhead paging system, works fine. Also at another customer site, the paging guys installed a audio input device that activates when ring voltage hits the line, http://www.valcom.com/v-9970.htm . Installed an ATA, nothing special, call that extension and device brings the ATA off-hook then bam, your passing audio to the paging system. You can pick these up for ~$200. JR -- JR Richardson Engineering for the Masses ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users Jon Pounder _/_/_/ _/_/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/ _/_/ _/_/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/ Inline Internet Systems Inc. Thorold, Ontario, Canada Tools to Power Your e-Business Solutions www.inline.net www.ihtml.com www.ihtmlmerchant.com www.opayc.com This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[asterisk-users] Overhead paging over IP...
I have a customer that has two buildings that are connected with a fiber link. We have a single Asterisk server to cover both buildings. Now the customer went and bought an overhead paging system for the remote building and they want to integrate it with Asterisk. Is there a device that can connect over IP or an ATA that has an audio output port? The buildings are about 500 meters apart so we cannot run a cable from one building to the other just for audio. -- Telecomunicaciones Abiertas de México S.A. de C.V. Carlos Chávez Prats Director de Tecnología +52-55-91169161 ext 2001 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Overhead paging over IP...
Carlos Chavez wrote: I have a customer that has two buildings that are connected with a fiber link. We have a single Asterisk server to cover both buildings. Now the customer went and bought an overhead paging system for the remote building and they want to integrate it with Asterisk. Is there a device that can connect over IP or an ATA that has an audio output port? The buildings are about 500 meters apart so we cannot run a cable from one building to the other just for audio. I think there are IP speakers out there but if you already have a Bogen or something you may want to go a different route. Polycom phones have a paging feature which is basically just auto answer on speakerphone. I suppose it would be quite easy to wire up the headphone jack on the Polycom to the Bogen (or whatever). A Polycom 301 should work just fine. If I were you, I would try that (but I have two or three 301s just laying around...) Thanks, Steve Totaro ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Overhead paging over IP...
Something like this should work http://www.voipsupply.com/product_info.php?products_id=3517osCsid=85766c1b3901219249d6fdea9bc7b7c0 On 9/4/07, Carlos Chavez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a customer that has two buildings that are connected with a fiber link. We have a single Asterisk server to cover both buildings. Now the customer went and bought an overhead paging system for the remote building and they want to integrate it with Asterisk. Is there a device that can connect over IP or an ATA that has an audio output port? The buildings are about 500 meters apart so we cannot run a cable from one building to the other just for audio. -- Telecomunicaciones Abiertas de México S.A. de C.V. Carlos Chávez Prats Director de Tecnología +52-55-91169161 ext 2001 ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- /* Andrew Latham LATHAMA (lay-th-ham-eh) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] */ ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Overhead paging over IP...
You can use an inexpensive PC with a sound card. Install Asterisk on it and set an extension that calls /dev/dsp. This will send audio out the speaker port on the sound card. Setup a trunk between this unit and your primary Asterisk server and you should be in business. Bryan M. Johns Shelton | Johns Technology Group Office: 678.248.2637 FindMe: 678.229.1809 http://www.sheltonjohns.com On Sep 4, 2007, at 7:07 PM, Carlos Chavez wrote: I have a customer that has two buildings that are connected with a fiber link. We have a single Asterisk server to cover both buildings. Now the customer went and bought an overhead paging system for the remote building and they want to integrate it with Asterisk. Is there a device that can connect over IP or an ATA that has an audio output port? The buildings are about 500 meters apart so we cannot run a cable from one building to the other just for audio. -- Telecomunicaciones Abiertas de México S.A. de C.V. Carlos Chávez Prats Director de Tecnología +52-55-91169161 ext 2001 ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Overhead paging over IP...
Most of the overhead paging systems I have worked with had an CO input, which worked with the FXO port on an ATA. A couple brands had multiple source options, it is worth checking, I had problems with poor audio quality using the sound card with asterisk. On 9/4/07, Carlos Chavez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a customer that has two buildings that are connected with a fiber link. We have a single Asterisk server to cover both buildings. Now the customer went and bought an overhead paging system for the remote building and they want to integrate it with Asterisk. Is there a device that can connect over IP or an ATA that has an audio output port? The buildings are about 500 meters apart so we cannot run a cable from one building to the other just for audio. -- Telecomunicaciones Abiertas de México S.A. de C.V. Carlos Chávez Prats Director de Tecnología +52-55-91169161 ext 2001 ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Bruce Reeves Nortex Networks ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Overhead paging over IP...
Bruce Reeves wrote: multiple source options, it is worth checking, I had problems with poor audio quality using the sound card with asterisk. I did as well using the built-in sound on the motherboard that I was using, switched to a Sound Blaster Live Value card and that problem went away. Doug -- Ben Franklin quote: Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Overhead Paging Systems...
William Boehlke wrote: Viking makes everything you might need for paging and door control. www.vikingtelecomsolutions.com William Boehlke Signate I have one customer with a nortel meridian pbx and there is viking stuff all over the backboard. I never had to mess with any of it because it all works as intended. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Overhead Paging Systems...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am now looking for a small(?) paging amp, that I could hook 3 or 4 horns to. I would like to just have the * extention be routed to a soundcard and out an output, so I would like an amp that is voice signal activated. The Parasound Zamp Zone amplifier would probably suit your needs. Voice activated and rock solid. However, a lot of PA applications are 100V line, make sure yours is not or you will need a transformer to interface the amplifier. Has anyone found anything like this? This is my first * installation, and I havn't been finding too much on google that helps me. That's because this stuff is normally sold to pro-audio installers, the great unwashed would not know what to do with it. -- Chris Mason NetConcepts (264) 497-5670 Fax: (264) 497-8463 Int: (305) 704-7249 Fax: (815)301-9759 Cell: 264-235-5670 Yahoo IM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] Overhead Paging Systems...
Hey all, I know you all saw the topic and let out a groan. However, I understand how to get an overhead paging system to work with respect *, however I am now looking for a small(?) paging amp, that I could hook 3 or 4 horns to. I would like to just have the * extention be routed to a soundcard and out an output, so I would like an amp that is voice signal activated. Has anyone found anything like this? This is my first * installation, and I havn't been finding too much on google that helps me. ~kurth ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Overhead Paging Systems...
The two most common companies to make paging equipment are Viking and Bogen. Bogen even resells ATAs for paging now. http://www.bogen.com or http://www.vikingelectronics.com Chris Coulthurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 7:33 AM Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Overhead Paging Systems... Hey all, I know you all saw the topic and let out a groan. However, I understand how to get an overhead paging system to work with respect *, however I am now looking for a small(?) paging amp, that I could hook 3 or 4 horns to. I would like to just have the * extention be routed to a soundcard and out an output, so I would like an amp that is voice signal activated. Has anyone found anything like this? This is my first * installation, and I havn't been finding too much on google that helps me. ~kurth ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Overhead Paging Systems...
Viking makes everything you might need for paging and door control. www.vikingtelecomsolutions.com William Boehlke Signate -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 7:34 AM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Overhead Paging Systems... Hey all, I know you all saw the topic and let out a groan. However, I understand how to get an overhead paging system to work with respect *, however I am now looking for a small(?) paging amp, that I could hook 3 or 4 horns to. I would like to just have the * extention be routed to a soundcard and out an output, so I would like an amp that is voice signal activated. Has anyone found anything like this? This is my first * installation, and I havn't been finding too much on google that helps me. ~kurth ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/86 - Release Date: 8/31/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/86 - Release Date: 8/31/2005 ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] Overhead Paging Systems...[More Info]
Thanks to all that have replied thus-far. I have talked to Viking and they recommended the PA-2A paging amp. (http://www.vikingelectronics.com/products/view_product.php?pid=317). It requires a 600ohm input. Before I go beating my head against the wall with this, has anyone else installed something similar? Can you tell me what hardware you used? Any help would be better then none. Thank You! ~kurth ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Overhead Paging
Traditional overhead paging systems are a little more complicated than they first appear. It's not just speakers and a centralized amplifier. They would have too much cable loss if done that way. Instead, they use a centralized power source, and amplifiers at each speaker unit.. The one I just took apart used 3 wires in series to the overhead speakers, and each speaker unit had an independent volume control and an onboard transformer on the unit. One of the wires (black) carried 60V. Green was ground. The last wire (smaller than the rest) was the audio signal. The audio signal ran into the transformer and modulated the 60V signal, and the output went to the speaker. Neat contraptions. Don't hurt yourself. -ejay -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Shaw Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 5:35 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Overhead Paging - Original Message - From: Brian Pavane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chris Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 2:39 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Overhead Paging Chris, What you're talking about is exactly what I'm looking for. I'm interested in the middleware that would sit between the speakers and the IAD. I have found the Bogen TAMB device -- however I was wondering if anyone had any experience with this box. How many speakers can you power off of the unit without needing an external amp, etc... -Brian lol those would be electrical questions... Not sure how to answer those, it would depend on power output of the TAMB device and how much current draw and wattage the speakers require... I know this would work though, as long as the receiver/amplifier has an FXO interface and not an RCA jack like you would find on a stereo system or CD player... ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Overhead Paging
... Instead, they use a centralized power source, and amplifiers at each speaker unit... I've never seen one like that, That would suck nut bigtime... Especially if you had a large building with 100+ speakers, you would have to tune the volume on each one... That's not how the TAMB works, it has a centralised volume control I think he was describing a PA system that has either lots of speakers or very long cable runs. It use to be rather popular in those cases to use an amplifier that produced higher voltage audio (and therefore the need for lower current per speaker) to avoid the loss of power to each speaker due to the cable runs, etc. In that case, a step-down transformer was required at each speaker (or room), and if the customer wanted room volume controls, then an additional control had to be wired to the speaker. I would seriously doubt whether folks see much of that anymore. Lots of other ways to address boat-loads of speakers and long cable runs with current technology. Rich ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Overhead Paging
Yeah, like what? I'm still looking for a reasonably-priced paging/monitoring system I can use with Asterisk. PA systems with distributed speakers/amplifiers can be had for around $50/speaker. IP-based solutions come in at several hundred dollars per station. Considering that disparity, you'll continue to see a lot distributed amplification systems going in. -Original Message- From: Rich Adamson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 11:53 AM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Overhead Paging I would seriously doubt whether folks see much of that anymore. Lots of other ways to address boat-loads of speakers and long cable runs with current technology. Rich ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Overhead Paging
My comment was in reference to the old single large amplifier and high voltage runs with room volume control, etc, as compared to much less expensive amplifier modules with small numbers of overhead speakers per module. Yeah, like what? I'm still looking for a reasonably-priced paging/monitoring system I can use with Asterisk. PA systems with distributed speakers/amplifiers can be had for around $50/speaker. IP-based solutions come in at several hundred dollars per station. Considering that disparity, you'll continue to see a lot distributed amplification systems going in. -Original Message- I would seriously doubt whether folks see much of that anymore. Lots of other ways to address boat-loads of speakers and long cable runs with current technology. Rich ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] Overhead Paging
All, I am currently implementing a VoIP PBX, and need to deal with the paging situation. I would prefer to do paging via overhead speakers. My plan is to connect a Paging Unit to an FXS port of an IAD, and assign an extension to that port. I would then simply be able to call that extension, and have my call patched through to the overhead speakers. Has anyone implemented this type of setup, if so, what type of paging unit did you deploy, did you require an external amplifier or power supply, and how many speakers were you able to connect to the unit? As it stands, I will need between 4 and 8 speakers, and some of the speakers will be 400 feet from the main telco closet. Any thoughts, comments, and suggestions that you can shed on this topic would be much appreciated. If you have other methods of implementing overhead paging, I would also be interested. -Brian ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Overhead Paging
I am currently implementing a VoIP PBX, and need to deal with the paging situation. I would prefer to do paging via overhead speakers. My plan is to connect a Paging Unit to an FXS port of an IAD, and assign an extension to that port. I would then simply be able to call that extension, and have my call patched through to the overhead speakers. Has anyone implemented this type of setup, if so, what type of paging unit did you deploy, did you require an external amplifier or power supply, and how many speakers were you able to connect to the unit? As it stands, I will need between 4 and 8 speakers, and some of the speakers will be 400 feet from the main telco closet. Any thoughts, comments, and suggestions that you can shed on this topic would be much appreciated. If you have other methods of implementing overhead paging, I would also be interested. If you search the archives I think you'll find this discussed several times. One (of many) ways to accomplish it is simply based on using a Cisco 7940/7960 phone configured with paging, and pipe the audio to an amplifier input. If you're planning on deploying the Cisco phones already, then using that approach basically has built-in sparing covered. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Overhead Paging
Valcom makes commerical paging subsystems for PBX's and I see that they have made a VoIP compatible pageing module. Lyle - Original Message - From: Brian Pavane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 7:12 AM Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Overhead Paging All, I am currently implementing a VoIP PBX, and need to deal with the paging situation. I would prefer to do paging via overhead speakers. My plan is to connect a Paging Unit to an FXS port of an IAD, and assign an extension to that port. I would then simply be able to call that extension, and have my call patched through to the overhead speakers. Has anyone implemented this type of setup, if so, what type of paging unit did you deploy, did you require an external amplifier or power supply, and how many speakers were you able to connect to the unit? As it stands, I will need between 4 and 8 speakers, and some of the speakers will be 400 feet from the main telco closet. Any thoughts, comments, and suggestions that you can shed on this topic would be much appreciated. If you have other methods of implementing overhead paging, I would also be interested. -Brian ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Overhead Paging
I am currently implementing a VoIP PBX, and need to deal with the paging situation. I would prefer to do paging via overhead speakers. My plan is to connect a "Paging Unit" to an FXS port of an IAD, and assign an extension to that port. I would then simply be able to call that extension, and have my call patched through to the overhead speakers. Has anyone implemented this type of setup, if so, what type of paging unit did you deploy, did you require an external amplifier or power supply, and how many speakers were you able to connect to the unit? As it stands, I will need between 4 and 8 speakers, and some of the speakers will be 400 feet from the main telco closet. Any thoughts, comments, and suggestions that you can shed on this topic would be much appreciated. If you have other methods of implementing overhead paging, I would also be interested. If you search the archives I think you'll find this discussed several times. One (of many) ways to accomplish it is simply based on using a Cisco 7940/7960 phone configured with paging, and pipe the audio to an amplifier input. If you're planning on deploying the Cisco phones already, then using that approach basically has built-in sparing covered. You can do these with the Grandstream Budgetone. They only cost around $75.00 ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Overhead Paging
- Original Message - From: Brian Pavane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 5:12 AM Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Overhead Paging All, I am currently implementing a VoIP PBX, and need to deal with the paging situation. I would prefer to do paging via overhead speakers. My plan is to connect a Paging Unit to an FXS port of an IAD, and assign an extension to that port. I would then simply be able to call that extension, and have my call patched through to the overhead speakers. Has anyone implemented this type of setup, if so, what type of paging unit did you deploy, did you require an external amplifier or power supply, and how many speakers were you able to connect to the unit? As it stands, I will need between 4 and 8 speakers, and some of the speakers will be 400 feet from the main telco closet. Any thoughts, comments, and suggestions that you can shed on this topic would be much appreciated. If you have other methods of implementing overhead paging, I would also be interested. -Brian The Valcom units don't mention SIP... they must be some proprietary protocol, also says it's Windows based... eww... Anything that you can do to an FXS port on a regular PBX you should be able to do to the FXS port of an IAD (within reason of course). You don't usually connect the speakers directly to the FXS, usually there's a device like an inline power supply that provides voltage and audio to the speakers or bullhorn... The GrandStream HT486 has a nice intercom function which sends a BEEP! before answering. The SPA-2000 also has an intercom but doesn't provide the beep... -Chris ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Overhead Paging
On Thu, 2004-08-26 at 10:19, Rich Adamson wrote: Any thoughts, comments, and suggestions that you can shed on this topic would be much appreciated. If you have other methods of implementing overhead paging, I would also be interested. One (of many) ways to accomplish it is simply based on using a Cisco 7940/7960 phone configured with paging, and pipe the audio to an amplifier input. If you're planning on deploying the Cisco phones already, then using that approach basically has built-in sparing covered. If the Cisco phone is already in use, and a page comes in, how should this be handled? It seems to show like an incoming call, and does not auto answer if you are on the phone already. Then it keeps ringing till you get off the phone. Or am I doing something wrong? This is the setup that I tried: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Cisco+7940-7960+auto-answer+config -- respectfully, Joseph === -= ** = ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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I have several Cisco 7940's laying around, how do I piple the speakerphone through external speakers? I understand the amplifier part, but how do you get RCA/2.5mm outputs from the Cisco? For now, we just configured a line 2 on all our phones with auto answer and, using the trick found in the wiki, when we page, every phone turns on and broadcasts whatever we say. However, there is an antiquated speaker system in the ceiling above that nobody knows anything about, it'd be neat to pipe a dedicated 7940 with Auto-Answer to the above Intercom. Rich Adamson wrote: I am currently implementing a VoIP PBX, and need to deal with the paging situation. I would prefer to do paging via overhead speakers. My plan is to connect a Paging Unit to an FXS port of an IAD, and assign an extension to that port. I would then simply be able to call that extension, and have my call patched through to the overhead speakers. Has anyone implemented this type of setup, if so, what type of paging unit did you deploy, did you require an external amplifier or power supply, and how many speakers were you able to connect to the unit? As it stands, I will need between 4 and 8 speakers, and some of the speakers will be 400 feet from the main telco closet. Any thoughts, comments, and suggestions that you can shed on this topic would be much appreciated. If you have other methods of implementing overhead paging, I would also be interested. If you search the archives I think you'll find this discussed several times. One (of many) ways to accomplish it is simply based on using a Cisco 7940/7960 phone configured with paging, and pipe the audio to an amplifier input. If you're planning on deploying the Cisco phones already, then using that approach basically has built-in sparing covered. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users . ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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I use a $20 soundcard on the asterisk server which is set to auto answer. Then connected to the soundcard is a an amplified horn. Whenever I dial extention 555, the soundcard picks up, plays the intercom tone from Star trek for a second to get everyone's attention, then then I start talkin over the horn. In your case, all you would need is a simple ampifier since you already have the speakers. Good luck, -Tor Roberts Deon Rodden wrote: I have several Cisco 7940's laying around, how do I piple the speakerphone through external speakers? I understand the amplifier part, but how do you get RCA/2.5mm outputs from the Cisco? For now, we just configured a line 2 on all our phones with auto answer and, using the trick found in the wiki, when we page, every phone turns on and broadcasts whatever we say. However, there is an antiquated speaker system in the ceiling above that nobody knows anything about, it'd be neat to pipe a dedicated 7940 with Auto-Answer to the above Intercom. Rich Adamson wrote: I am currently implementing a VoIP PBX, and need to deal with the paging situation. I would prefer to do paging via overhead speakers. My plan is to connect a Paging Unit to an FXS port of an IAD, and assign an extension to that port. I would then simply be able to call that extension, and have my call patched through to the overhead speakers. Has anyone implemented this type of setup, if so, what type of paging unit did you deploy, did you require an external amplifier or power supply, and how many speakers were you able to connect to the unit? As it stands, I will need between 4 and 8 speakers, and some of the speakers will be 400 feet from the main telco closet. Any thoughts, comments, and suggestions that you can shed on this topic would be much appreciated. If you have other methods of implementing overhead paging, I would also be interested. If you search the archives I think you'll find this discussed several times. One (of many) ways to accomplish it is simply based on using a Cisco 7940/7960 phone configured with paging, and pipe the audio to an amplifier input. If you're planning on deploying the Cisco phones already, then using that approach basically has built-in sparing covered. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users . ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Overhead Paging
Tor, could you post the relevant config entries for your paging solution. Thanks in advance. JB -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tor Roberts Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 1:26 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Overhead Paging I use a $20 soundcard on the asterisk server which is set to auto answer. Then connected to the soundcard is a an amplified horn. Whenever I dial extention 555, the soundcard picks up, plays the intercom tone from Star trek for a second to get everyone's attention, then then I start talkin over the horn. In your case, all you would need is a simple ampifier since you already have the speakers. Good luck, -Tor Roberts Deon Rodden wrote: I have several Cisco 7940's laying around, how do I piple the speakerphone through external speakers? I understand the amplifier part, but how do you get RCA/2.5mm outputs from the Cisco? For now, we just configured a line 2 on all our phones with auto answer and, using the trick found in the wiki, when we page, every phone turns on and broadcasts whatever we say. However, there is an antiquated speaker system in the ceiling above that nobody knows anything about, it'd be neat to pipe a dedicated 7940 with Auto-Answer to the above Intercom. Rich Adamson wrote: I am currently implementing a VoIP PBX, and need to deal with the paging situation. I would prefer to do paging via overhead speakers. My plan is to connect a Paging Unit to an FXS port of an IAD, and assign an extension to that port. I would then simply be able to call that extension, and have my call patched through to the overhead speakers. Has anyone implemented this type of setup, if so, what type of paging unit did you deploy, did you require an external amplifier or power supply, and how many speakers were you able to connect to the unit? As it stands, I will need between 4 and 8 speakers, and some of the speakers will be 400 feet from the main telco closet. Any thoughts, comments, and suggestions that you can shed on this topic would be much appreciated. If you have other methods of implementing overhead paging, I would also be interested. If you search the archives I think you'll find this discussed several times. One (of many) ways to accomplish it is simply based on using a Cisco 7940/7960 phone configured with paging, and pipe the audio to an amplifier input. If you're planning on deploying the Cisco phones already, then using that approach basically has built-in sparing covered. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users . ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Overhead Paging
What do you know about the SPA-2000's intercom? I don't think I ever ran across that in the docs? -Original Message- From: Chris Shaw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 11:07 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Overhead Paging The GrandStream HT486 has a nice intercom function which sends a BEEP! before answering. The SPA-2000 also has an intercom but doesn't provide the beep... ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Overhead Paging
John, Below are the impotant parts of my oss.conf and extensions.conf that make the system work. The only problems that I had in getting this to work was finding the right soundcard. I tried serveral of them, some just work and others don't. Be prepared to try a few out. -Tor Roberts This is the oss.conf. I think it is the default: ; ; Open Sound System Console Driver Configuration File ; [general] ; ; Automatically answer incoming calls on the console? Choose yes if ; for example you want to use this as an intercom. ; autoanswer=yes ; ; Default context (is overridden with @context syntax) ; context=default ; ; Default extension to call ; extension=s This is the important part of my extensions.conf: exten = 555,1,Dial(Console/dsp,20,A(trek)) exten = 555,2,Hangup John Bohman wrote: Tor, could you post the relevant config entries for your paging solution. Thanks in advance. JB -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tor Roberts Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 1:26 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Overhead Paging I use a $20 soundcard on the asterisk server which is set to auto answer. Then connected to the soundcard is a an amplified horn. Whenever I dial extention 555, the soundcard picks up, plays the intercom tone from Star trek for a second to get everyone's attention, then then I start talkin over the horn. In your case, all you would need is a simple ampifier since you already have the speakers. Good luck, -Tor Roberts Deon Rodden wrote: I have several Cisco 7940's laying around, how do I piple the speakerphone through external speakers? I understand the amplifier part, but how do you get RCA/2.5mm outputs from the Cisco? For now, we just configured a line 2 on all our phones with auto answer and, using the trick found in the wiki, when we page, every phone turns on and broadcasts whatever we say. However, there is an antiquated speaker system in the ceiling above that nobody knows anything about, it'd be neat to pipe a dedicated 7940 with Auto-Answer to the above Intercom. Rich Adamson wrote: I am currently implementing a VoIP PBX, and need to deal with the paging situation. I would prefer to do paging via overhead speakers. My plan is to connect a Paging Unit to an FXS port of an IAD, and assign an extension to that port. I would then simply be able to call that extension, and have my call patched through to the overhead speakers. Has anyone implemented this type of setup, if so, what type of paging unit did you deploy, did you require an external amplifier or power supply, and how many speakers were you able to connect to the unit? As it stands, I will need between 4 and 8 speakers, and some of the speakers will be 400 feet from the main telco closet. Any thoughts, comments, and suggestions that you can shed on this topic would be much appreciated. If you have other methods of implementing overhead paging, I would also be interested. If you search the archives I think you'll find this discussed several times. One (of many) ways to accomplish it is simply based on using a Cisco 7940/7960 phone configured with paging, and pipe the audio to an amplifier input. If you're planning on deploying the Cisco phones already, then using that approach basically has built-in sparing covered. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users . ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Overhead Paging
Chris, What you're talking about is exactly what I'm looking for. I'm interested in the middleware that would sit between the speakers and the IAD. I have found the Bogen TAMB device -- however I was wondering if anyone had any experience with this box. How many speakers can you power off of the unit without needing an external amp, etc... -Brian Chris Shaw wrote: - Original Message - From: Brian Pavane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 5:12 AM Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Overhead Paging All, I am currently implementing a VoIP PBX, and need to deal with the paging situation. I would prefer to do paging via overhead speakers. My plan is to connect a Paging Unit to an FXS port of an IAD, and assign an extension to that port. I would then simply be able to call that extension, and have my call patched through to the overhead speakers. Has anyone implemented this type of setup, if so, what type of paging unit did you deploy, did you require an external amplifier or power supply, and how many speakers were you able to connect to the unit? As it stands, I will need between 4 and 8 speakers, and some of the speakers will be 400 feet from the main telco closet. Any thoughts, comments, and suggestions that you can shed on this topic would be much appreciated. If you have other methods of implementing overhead paging, I would also be interested. -Brian The Valcom units don't mention SIP... they must be some proprietary protocol, also says it's Windows based... eww... Anything that you can do to an FXS port on a regular PBX you should be able to do to the FXS port of an IAD (within reason of course). You don't usually connect the speakers directly to the FXS, usually there's a device like an inline power supply that provides voltage and audio to the speakers or bullhorn... The GrandStream HT486 has a nice intercom function which sends a BEEP! before answering. The SPA-2000 also has an intercom but doesn't provide the beep... -Chris ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Overhead Paging
- Original Message - From: Brian Pavane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chris Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 2:39 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Overhead Paging Chris, What you're talking about is exactly what I'm looking for. I'm interested in the middleware that would sit between the speakers and the IAD. I have found the Bogen TAMB device -- however I was wondering if anyone had any experience with this box. How many speakers can you power off of the unit without needing an external amp, etc... -Brian lol those would be electrical questions... Not sure how to answer those, it would depend on power output of the TAMB device and how much current draw and wattage the speakers require... I know this would work though, as long as the receiver/amplifier has an FXO interface and not an RCA jack like you would find on a stereo system or CD player... ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Overhead Paging
- Original Message - From: Brian Pavane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chris Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 2:39 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Overhead Paging Chris, What you're talking about is exactly what I'm looking for. I'm interested in the middleware that would sit between the speakers and the IAD. I have found the Bogen TAMB device -- however I was wondering if anyone had any experience with this box. How many speakers can you power off of the unit without needing an external amp, etc... -Brian Also I had mentioned earlier that the SPA-2000 and HTX86 IADs have an auto-answer, that's not true, so the TAMB device must recognize ringing voltage and automatically answer... If it can connect directly to a PABX system it most likely does... -Chris ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Overhead Paging
Well, I've made a little progress with this. In zaptel.conf I set em=11 (11 is the channel). In zapata.conf I set signalling=em_w and usecallerid=no In extensions.conf I set 311,1,Dial(Zap/11,15) In the Adtran, I set the port to FXS DPO. At the beginning of each page, I hear two DTMF 1 tones (the channel number?), but then I am able to page. Does anyone know how to get rid of the DTMF tones? Thanks, Michael Welter Michael Welter wrote: I've a Valcon V-2001A paging controller connected to an Adtran 750 FXS port. The V-2001A looks like an FXS loop start extension. When I call the extension, I can hear ringing tones and CallerID through the speaker, but the paging controller doesn't answer--it continues to ring. I also hear a relay clicking with each ring in the paging controller. Does anyone have experience with configuring these devices for paging? Thank you, Michael Welter ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] Overhead Paging
I've a Valcon V-2001A paging controller connected to an Adtran 750 FXS port. The V-2001A looks like an FXS loop start extension. When I call the extension, I can hear ringing tones and CallerID through the speaker, but the paging controller doesn't answer--it continues to ring. I also hear a relay clicking with each ring in the paging controller. Does anyone have experience with configuring these devices for paging? Thank you, Michael Welter ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Overhead Paging
Title: Message We do the same thing with the Snom phones. They can be set up for auto-answer, and they have a speaker jack in the back that is the same levels as a sound card on a PC. And the Snom phone automaticly hangs up when the caller hang up is detected (the SIP BYE message). Jerry -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bisker, Scott (7805)Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 6:17 PMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Overhead Paging Our setup is to set the OSS device to autoanswer. The output of the soundcard feeds into a bank of overhead speakers. If the channel is in use, then the call gets put in a queue until the OSS device is free. -sb -Original Message-From: Johnson, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 5:34 PMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Overhead Paging Does anyone have any recommendations for overhead paging systems for use with Asterisk? Thanks, Randy Johnson
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Overhead Paging
Title: Message Jerry, Do you have it setup so that multiple phones answer one extension? I tried that setup with two Cisco phones, however, only the quickest responding phone answered. If you have a config that rings multiple phones and all of the phones answer the same call, I'd be interested to see the config. I guess theway to do it would be to setup a meetme conference and then dial all parties into the conference then speak -sb -Original Message-From: Jerry Gibson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 8:52 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Overhead Paging We do the same thing with the Snom phones. They can be set up for auto-answer, and they have a speaker jack in the back that is the same levels as a sound card on a PC. And the Snom phone automaticly hangs up when the caller hang up is detected (the SIP BYE message). Jerry -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bisker, Scott (7805)Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 6:17 PMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Overhead Paging Our setup is to set the OSS device to autoanswer. The output of the soundcard feeds into a bank of overhead speakers. If the channel is in use, then the call gets put in a queue until the OSS device is free. -sb -Original Message-From: Johnson, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 5:34 PMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Overhead Paging Does anyone have any recommendations for overhead paging systems for use with Asterisk? Thanks, Randy Johnson
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Overhead Paging
Title: Message I feel this needs to be a separate application in Asterisk, like app_sipintercom The application would connect to all available auto-answer SIP phones, play a short frequency tone for the intercom alert, only allow one-way streaming to the phones, then disconnect all phones whenever the originator hangs up. Same is true for a paging application, app_sippage The application should work the same as intercom, but allow two-way audio streaming. I was starting the design of these two applications unless anyone else has a better idea or has already begun work? Feedback welcome -Original Message-From: Jerry Gibson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 10:41 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Overhead Paging Scott: The operation you describe with multiple phones set to ring on the same extension is correct. The first one that answers, gets it. However, the meetme setup you describe also works great. I have that set up for a conference bridge where one person sets up a conference with one click on a web page which calls multiple Snom phones into a conference. This is a full conference where everyone can talk to everyone. However, The Snom phone also allows you set it upwith the mic permanently muted, which would work great forpaging. Jerry -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bisker, Scott (7805)Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 9:25 AMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Overhead Paging Jerry, Do you have it setup so that multiple phones answer one extension? I tried that setup with two Cisco phones, however, only the quickest responding phone answered. If you have a config that rings multiple phones and all of the phones answer the same call, I'd be interested to see the config. I guess theway to do it would be to setup a meetme conference and then dial all parties into the conference then speak -sb -Original Message-From: Jerry Gibson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 8:52 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Overhead Paging We do the same thing with the Snom phones. They can be set up for auto-answer, and they have a speaker jack in the back that is the same levels as a sound card on a PC. And the Snom phone automaticly hangs up when the caller hang up is detected (the SIP BYE message). Jerry -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bisker, Scott (7805)Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 6:17 PMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Overhead Paging Our setup is to set the OSS device to autoanswer. The output of the soundcard feeds into a bank of overhead speakers. If the channel is in use, then the call gets put in a queue until the OSS device is free. -sb -Original Message-From: Johnson, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 5:34 PMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Overhead Paging Does anyone have any recommendations for overhead paging systems for use with Asterisk? Thanks, Randy Johnson
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Overhead Paging
I'd hate to see conference bridging use for paging. A lot of wasted CPU and bandwidth. Could you multicast the UDP packets? We assume you don't need to page across multiple Asterisk servers but if you did the software wuld need to be smart enough to know which groups of extensions could be in a multicast and whci need to be bridged. Basically check to see if the SIP phone are on the same subnet. --- DUSTIN WILDES [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I feel this needs to be a separate application in Asterisk, like app_sipintercom The application would connect to all available auto-answer SIP phones, play a short frequency tone for the intercom alert, only allow one-way streaming to the phones, then disconnect all phones whenever the originator hangs up. Same is true for a paging application, app_sippage The application should work the same as intercom, but allow two-way audio streaming. I was starting the design of these two applications unless anyone else has a better idea or has already begun work? Feedback welcome -Original Message- From: Jerry Gibson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 10:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Overhead Paging Scott: The operation you describe with multiple phones set to ring on the same extension is correct. The first one that answers, gets it. However, the meetme setup you describe also works great. I have that set up for a conference bridge where one person sets up a conference with one click on a web page which calls multiple Snom phones into a conference. This is a full conference where everyone can talk to everyone. However, The Snom phone also allows you set it up with the mic permanently muted, which would work great for paging. Jerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bisker, Scott (7805) Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 9:25 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Overhead Paging Jerry, Do you have it setup so that multiple phones answer one extension? I tried that setup with two Cisco phones, however, only the quickest responding phone answered. If you have a config that rings multiple phones and all of the phones answer the same call, I'd be interested to see the config. I guess theway to do it would be to setup a meetme conference and then dial all parties into the conference then speak -sb -Original Message- From: Jerry Gibson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 8:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Overhead Paging We do the same thing with the Snom phones. They can be set up for auto-answer, and they have a speaker jack in the back that is the same levels as a sound card on a PC. And the Snom phone automaticly hangs up when the caller hang up is detected (the SIP BYE message). Jerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bisker, Scott (7805) Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 6:17 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Overhead Paging Our setup is to set the OSS device to autoanswer. The output of the soundcard feeds into a bank of overhead speakers. If the channel is in use, then the call gets put in a queue until the OSS device is free. -sb -Original Message- From: Johnson, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 5:34 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Overhead Paging Does anyone have any recommendations for overhead paging systems for use with Asterisk? Thanks, Randy Johnson = Chris Albertson Home: 310-376-1029 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 310-990-7550 Office: 310-336-5189 [EMAIL PROTECTED] KG6OMK __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Overhead Paging - app notes
[apologies for the -dev cross-post, but I feel this might be worthy of examination by the residents of that less-flooded list] Multicast is very elegant, but usually unworkable, and mostly unsupported for SIP devices, so I would avoid going further down that path. I think that Dustin has the right idea: an application needs to be written for both paging and intercom. The Intercom application is really just an app that does what I've been doing with really ugly call spooling - it creates a semi-dynamic MeetMe room with a bit more control. The pager is a slight modification on the same application. I would suggest, however, that it is written not as a specific solution for SIP but as a solution for all channel types, since limiting ourselves to just SIP seems to be a bit heavy-handed and not in the spirit of Asterisk's multi-channel philosophy. By allowing any channel type, these two apps can support paging over multiple Asterisk platforms by allowing IAX connections to chain the audio streams to multiple remote hosts, thus using a tree approach to localize audio storms across WAN segments. Here are my ideal first-cut manual pages for the two apps... Page(Technology/resource[Technology2/resource2...][|options]) Requests one or more channels and places calls to those channels in a broadcast-only mode. Devices are responsible for ensuring that appropriate methods are used to transmit the audio to a suitable broadcast medium, if desired. All resources are dialed, and as soon as the last resource has answered, a high/low ready one will be played to the caller, indicating that all participants are ready for the page announcement. If at least one channel/resource answers, then if either side hangs up the line the application will exit with -1. Options: 'A(x)' -- Plays an attention-getting file (usually a set of tones) over the pager channel before playing the ready tones to the caller. 'q'-- Do not play tones 'w(x)' -- Wait time, in milliseconds, that the application will wait for the last resource to pick up the line. If w milliseconds expires but at least one resource has answered, then a low/low/high ready tone series will be played for the caller to indicate that not all callers are participating in the bridge. If no resources answer, a low/low/low not ready tone will be played, and the channel will hang up with status 0. Calls that answer after w milliseconds are added to the audio stream as they answer, but will not hear the whole announcement. Intercom(Technology/resource[Technology2/resource2...][|options]) Requests one or more channels and places calls to those channels in a multi-way chat. All resources are dialed simultaneously, and as soon as channels answer, a low/high tone is played in the conference indicating that a new user has joined the conference. Options: 'A(x)' -- Plays an attention-getting file (usually a set of tones) over the pager channel before playing the ready tones to the caller. 'q'-- Do not play tones as callers enter/exit the conference bridge 'w(x)' -- Wait time, in seconds, for at least one resource to answer. If expired, exit with 0. JT At 8:53 AM -0800 11/14/03, Chris Albertson wrote: I'd hate to see conference bridging use for paging. A lot of wasted CPU and bandwidth. Could you multicast the UDP packets? We assume you don't need to page across multiple Asterisk servers but if you did the software wuld need to be smart enough to know which groups of extensions could be in a multicast and whci need to be bridged. Basically check to see if the SIP phone are on the same subnet. --- DUSTIN WILDES [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I feel this needs to be a separate application in Asterisk, like app_sipintercom The application would connect to all available auto-answer SIP phones, play a short frequency tone for the intercom alert, only allow one-way streaming to the phones, then disconnect all phones whenever the originator hangs up. Same is true for a paging application, app_sippage The application should work the same as intercom, but allow two-way audio streaming. I was starting the design of these two applications unless anyone else has a better idea or has already begun work? Feedback welcome -Original Message- From: Jerry Gibson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 10:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Overhead Paging Scott: The operation you describe with multiple phones set to ring on the same extension is correct. The first one that answers, gets it. However, the meetme setup you describe also works great. I have that set up for a conference bridge where one person sets up a conference with one click on a web page which calls multiple Snom phones into a conference. This is a full conference where everyone can talk to everyone. However, The Snom phone also allows you set it up with the mic
[Asterisk-Users] Overhead Paging
Title: Overhead Paging Does anyone have any recommendations for overhead paging systems for use with Asterisk? Thanks, Randy Johnson
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Overhead Paging
Title: Overhead Paging Our setup is to set the OSS device to autoanswer. The output of the soundcard feeds into a bank of overhead speakers. If the channel is in use, then the call gets put in a queue until the OSS device is free. -sb -Original Message-From: Johnson, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 5:34 PMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Overhead Paging Does anyone have any recommendations for overhead paging systems for use with Asterisk? Thanks, Randy Johnson
