Re: [Asterisk-Users] RE: TDM Card loses Dialtone and Battery
You can upgrade to revision E/F for free (other than shipping cost). Just contact Digium sales and tell them you need to swap your TDM cards. Mark On Sun, 28 Dec 2003, Victor Rini wrote: Tilghman, I have a feeling we're getting somewhere. I ordered three cards the very day they went on sale through the digium website. Yes, it's revision C. I guess I'll talk to digium about this. Thanks, Victor ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] RE: TDM Card loses Dialtone and Battery
I'll just throw this out. I've had some MB's in the past with flaky support for APIC. It resulted in weird interrupt problems. Disabling APIC and a kernel recompile solved it. John Breeden Hawaii -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Victor Rini Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 7:37 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: [Asterisk-Users] RE: TDM Card loses Dialtone and Battery Sean, Yes, that IRQ assignment seemed strange to me too. I don't understand why the kernel wanted to assign IRQS this way. I guess it's something to do with this APIC technology. Can anyone fill me in here? By the way, thanks to everyone who has contributed to this thread. It's really helped a lot. Victor CPU0 0: 102777IO-APIC-edge timer 1:471IO-APIC-edge keyboard 2: 0 XT-PIC cascade 8: 4IO-APIC-edge rtc 14: 9159IO-APIC-edge ide0 15: 6IO-APIC-edge ide1 17:1995769 IO-APIC-level wcfxo, wcfxo 18: 341396 IO-APIC-level wcfxs 19: 0 IO-APIC-level EMU10K1 20: 3390 IO-APIC-level eth1 21: 8652 IO-APIC-level eth0 22:788 IO-APIC-level eth2 NMI: 0 LOC: 102728 ERR: 0 MIS: 0 ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] RE: TDM Card loses Dialtone and Battery
Adam Goryachev wrote: I might add that I has similar problems on a very frequant basis, finally I 'accidentally' found a version of asterisk + zaptel modules that was stable for more than 6 weeks. Eventually I asked for (and got) a replacement card from digium with the internal power connector. This worked fine with the same software versions, although it crashed once after about 3 weeks. I've just updated to current CVS of everything, and will see how it goes. I'm not doing anything major out of the ordinary, I have a single X101P, a single TDM400P and a 2 channel (single BRI) i4l ISDN card. I use IAX to connect to a *very* lightly used extension (ie, iax to second asterisk to sip ata186). Regards, Adam Since updating my 2 TDM400P's, with 4 channels each, to REV E/F, I have seen very intermittant loss of dialtone on some channels, one hard lookup that required a power reset and a Power alarm on module 1, resetting!, which oddly occurred in the small hours of the morning, when the phone was not being used, over a +_ 2 month period, where the first card has had regular daily office use and the second card virtually none. The machine is a 2.4GHz P4 on an ASUS Intel chipset MB, running a stripped down Redhat 7.3 with a custom kernel compiled completely with asterisk requirements only. Everything not required for asterisk (USB, serial, parallel, mouse) has been disabled in the BIOS and there is no X or framebuffer installed. Two X101Ps are also in use. /proc/interrupts CPU0 0: 456297846 XT-PIC timer 1: 2 XT-PIC keyboard 2: 0 XT-PIC cascade 5: 267137019 XT-PIC wcfxo 7: 16745155 XT-PIC eth0 8: 1 XT-PIC rtc 9: 267049399 XT-PIC wcfxo 11: 267335750 XT-PIC wcfxs 12: 3313776049 XT-PIC wcfxs 14:1912794 XT-PIC ide0 NMI: 0 LOC: 456293550 ERR: 0 MIS: 0 I would be interested in hearing from anyone else running 2 x X101 and 2 x TDM400 4 channels, who is having no problems at all. Regards, Richard ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] RE: TDM Card loses Dialtone and Battery
Hello again, Thanks for the timely responses. Andrew: Asterisk doesn't dump any messages except when a call comes in and asterisk tries to ring an extension - it leaves a device busy type of message. I checked /proc/interrupts. The fxs card is still there after it dies, but the interrupts counter does not change over time. When the fxs card is working it is usually constantly firing interrupts. I'll check load and report back. Thanks for the suggestion about the sound card. I really don't need it in the server. I'll take it out. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] RE: TDM Card loses Dialtone and Battery
I think what Steve was getting at was interrupt sharing. Is the fxs card on the same interrupt as anything else? Sean -Original Message- From: Victor Rini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 10:21 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: [Asterisk-Users] RE: TDM Card loses Dialtone and Battery Hello again, Thanks for the timely responses. Andrew: Asterisk doesn't dump any messages except when a call comes in and asterisk tries to ring an extension - it leaves a device busy type of message. I checked /proc/interrupts. The fxs card is still there after it dies, but the interrupts counter does not change over time. When the fxs card is working it is usually constantly firing interrupts. I'll check load and report back. Thanks for the suggestion about the sound card. I really don't need it in the server. I'll take it out. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] RE: TDM Card loses Dialtone and Battery
Steve, I have the tdm card on it's own IRQ. That's one of the first things I tried. Both of my fxo cards are on the same IRQ and they seem to hold together. It's interesting that you bring up the timing issue. Why would the tdm card be so sensitive? I can understand a drop in voice quality but dying? Another thought. Downloads are usually big tcp packets? Maybe 1500 bytes a packet? Processing them probably takes more time. I've run 300kbit streaming video through the server which I believe are smaller packets and the tdm card seems to hold up. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] RE: TDM Card loses Dialtone and Battery
- Original Message - From: Victor Rini [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 10:20 PM Subject: [Asterisk-Users] RE: TDM Card loses Dialtone and Battery Hello again, Thanks for the timely responses. Andrew: Asterisk doesn't dump any messages except when a call comes in and asterisk tries to ring an extension - it leaves a device busy type of message. I don't have internal fx devices, so I'm scrambling to find a command to help see what * thinks is up/down. Can you restart asterisk with asterisk -vvvc, convince the card to crash, and see if it generates anything then? (If you've done this already, just say so.) I checked /proc/interrupts. The fxs card is still there after it dies, but the interrupts counter does not change over time. When the fxs card is working it is usually constantly firing interrupts. Sorry, I should have asked explicitly for what I wanted to see. Can you paste the contents of /proc/interrupts in your reply? I'll check load and report back. Thanks for the suggestion about the sound card. I really don't need it in the server. I'll take it out. The notable thing here is, your interrupts may move around when you take this card out. Your other * problems may get better or worse when this happens. There ought to be a better way to manage interrupts, but apart from taking boards out and trying them in varying orders, I don't know what it is. If you do take the sound card out, can you(just for fun) post the /proc/interrupts before and after? Andrew Thompson http://aktzero.com/ ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] RE: TDM Card loses Dialtone and Battery
Tilghman, I have a feeling we're getting somewhere. I ordered three cards the very day they went on sale through the digium website. Yes, it's revision C. I guess I'll talk to digium about this. Thanks, Victor ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] RE: TDM Card loses Dialtone and Battery
On Sunday 28 December 2003 21:53, Victor Rini wrote: I have a feeling we're getting somewhere. I ordered three cards the very day they went on sale through the digium website. Yes, it's revision C. I guess I'll talk to digium about this. In case you're wondering, the problem is the amount of power the TDM cards pull off the PCI bus. When you have another device sucking power, it can momentarily drop the power enough on the TDM card to reset it. The molex connector allows the card to pull power directly from the power supply instead of through the PCI bus, which of course solves that problem. I'm told the TDM Rev. C card is within the PCI spec for power drain, but the stresses it puts on the PCI bus will show how many motherboards are in fact close, but a little deficient The sole reason the TDM card requires so much power is to generate ring voltage for connected telephones. -Tilghman ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] RE: TDM Card loses Dialtone and Battery
Andrew: I tried the asterisk -vvvc suggestion and I didn't get any messages when the card died. Here's /proc/interrupts before I take out the sound card: CPU0 0: 102777IO-APIC-edge timer 1:471IO-APIC-edge keyboard 2: 0 XT-PIC cascade 8: 4IO-APIC-edge rtc 14: 9159IO-APIC-edge ide0 15: 6IO-APIC-edge ide1 17:1995769 IO-APIC-level wcfxo, wcfxo 18: 341396 IO-APIC-level wcfxs 19: 0 IO-APIC-level EMU10K1 20: 3390 IO-APIC-level eth1 21: 8652 IO-APIC-level eth0 22:788 IO-APIC-level eth2 NMI: 0 LOC: 102728 ERR: 0 MIS: 0 and after: CPU0 0: 14903IO-APIC-edge timer 1: 2IO-APIC-edge keyboard 2: 0 XT-PIC cascade 8: 4IO-APIC-edge rtc 14: 7469IO-APIC-edge ide0 15: 6IO-APIC-edge ide1 17: 111534 IO-APIC-level wcfxo 18: 111626 IO-APIC-level wcfxo 19: 104013 IO-APIC-level wcfxs 20:680 IO-APIC-level eth1 21:509 IO-APIC-level eth0 22: 41 IO-APIC-level eth2 NMI: 0 LOC: 14855 ERR: 0 MIS: 0 About load: almost impossible to tell. I was sshed into the server and running top - top was showing the system 100% idle. Then I hit a download link and bang, the card died. This is all pretty academic at this point - I think Tilghman found the problem for me. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] RE: TDM Card loses Dialtone and Battery
now we're getting somewhere! anything above interrupt 15 will be interrupt sharing. bad! If you can get the cards assigned to 10 or 11, you should be in better shape. Sean -Original Message- From: Victor Rini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 12:12 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: [Asterisk-Users] RE: TDM Card loses Dialtone and Battery Andrew: I tried the asterisk -vvvc suggestion and I didn't get any messages when the card died. Here's /proc/interrupts before I take out the sound card: CPU0 0: 102777IO-APIC-edge timer 1:471IO-APIC-edge keyboard 2: 0 XT-PIC cascade 8: 4IO-APIC-edge rtc 14: 9159IO-APIC-edge ide0 15: 6IO-APIC-edge ide1 17:1995769 IO-APIC-level wcfxo, wcfxo 18: 341396 IO-APIC-level wcfxs 19: 0 IO-APIC-level EMU10K1 20: 3390 IO-APIC-level eth1 21: 8652 IO-APIC-level eth0 22:788 IO-APIC-level eth2 NMI: 0 LOC: 102728 ERR: 0 MIS: 0 and after: CPU0 0: 14903IO-APIC-edge timer 1: 2IO-APIC-edge keyboard 2: 0 XT-PIC cascade 8: 4IO-APIC-edge rtc 14: 7469IO-APIC-edge ide0 15: 6IO-APIC-edge ide1 17: 111534 IO-APIC-level wcfxo 18: 111626 IO-APIC-level wcfxo 19: 104013 IO-APIC-level wcfxs 20:680 IO-APIC-level eth1 21:509 IO-APIC-level eth0 22: 41 IO-APIC-level eth2 NMI: 0 LOC: 14855 ERR: 0 MIS: 0 About load: almost impossible to tell. I was sshed into the server and running top - top was showing the system 100% idle. Then I hit a download link and bang, the card died. This is all pretty academic at this point - I think Tilghman found the problem for me. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] RE: TDM Card loses Dialtone and Battery
Sean, Yes, that IRQ assignment seemed strange to me too. I don't understand why the kernel wanted to assign IRQS this way. I guess it's something to do with this APIC technology. Can anyone fill me in here? By the way, thanks to everyone who has contributed to this thread. It's really helped a lot. Victor CPU0 0: 102777IO-APIC-edge timer 1:471IO-APIC-edge keyboard 2: 0 XT-PIC cascade 8: 4IO-APIC-edge rtc 14: 9159IO-APIC-edge ide0 15: 6IO-APIC-edge ide1 17:1995769 IO-APIC-level wcfxo, wcfxo 18: 341396 IO-APIC-level wcfxs 19: 0 IO-APIC-level EMU10K1 20: 3390 IO-APIC-level eth1 21: 8652 IO-APIC-level eth0 22:788 IO-APIC-level eth2 NMI: 0 LOC: 102728 ERR: 0 MIS: 0 ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] RE: TDM Card loses Dialtone and Battery
I might add that I has similar problems on a very frequant basis, finally I 'accidentally' found a version of asterisk + zaptel modules that was stable for more than 6 weeks. Eventually I asked for (and got) a replacement card from digium with the internal power connector. This worked fine with the same software versions, although it crashed once after about 3 weeks. I've just updated to current CVS of everything, and will see how it goes. I'm not doing anything major out of the ordinary, I have a single X101P, a single TDM400P and a 2 channel (single BRI) i4l ISDN card. I use IAX to connect to a *very* lightly used extension (ie, iax to second asterisk to sip ata186). Regards, Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: now we're getting somewhere! anything above interrupt 15 will be interrupt sharing. bad! If you can get the cards assigned to 10 or 11, you should be in better shape. Sean -Original Message- From: Victor Rini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 12:12 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: [Asterisk-Users] RE: TDM Card loses Dialtone and Battery Andrew: I tried the asterisk -vvvc suggestion and I didn't get any messages when the card died. Here's /proc/interrupts before I take out the sound card: CPU0 0: 102777IO-APIC-edge timer 1:471IO-APIC-edge keyboard 2: 0 XT-PIC cascade 8: 4IO-APIC-edge rtc 14: 9159IO-APIC-edge ide0 15: 6IO-APIC-edge ide1 17:1995769 IO-APIC-level wcfxo, wcfxo 18: 341396 IO-APIC-level wcfxs 19: 0 IO-APIC-level EMU10K1 20: 3390 IO-APIC-level eth1 21: 8652 IO-APIC-level eth0 22:788 IO-APIC-level eth2 NMI: 0 LOC: 102728 ERR: 0 MIS: 0 -- Adam Goryachev Website Managers Ph: +61 2 9345 4395[EMAIL PROTECTED] Fax: +61 2 9345 4396www.websitemanagers.com.au ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
