Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: DNS SRV records
On Wed, 9 Jun 2004, Duane wrote: How's it a DNS hack when the SRV record includes the A record Because you're having to create subdoms and use them for your SIP addresses, rather than using the facilities that SIP provides to allow you to use your domain, just as you would for email. Yes you still need an A record, but you do for MXs for mail, and CNAMES for web (etc). The various RFCs has given you a perfectly usable solution, yet you choose to work around it; ergo it is a hack. Everyone will use A records regardless... They make up part of the SRV record so either way things aren't suddenly going to break... Yes, I use an A records to provide a name-address mapping of my hosts. I don't use A records in any of my public-facing services though. This means that in the past I've been able to change ISPs, replace faulty machines almost instantly, and renumber my network as needed by only changing the few definative A records, rather than having to update every DNS entry on every domain (some of which I don't directly control) that points at one of my machines. This is Best Common Practice for DNS administration - using CNAMEs, MXs and (increasingly) SRV RRs. Using just A records will not only mean you have an ugly contact address that doesn't correspond to your email address, but also proove to be completely unmaintainable in anything but the most trivial setups. Unfortunately, it seems from my bugreport that the powers that be are as spit over this as we are, which is a shame - I'd have hoped that RFC compliance was an obvious aim for any piece of software *shrug* -Darren -- Darren Edmundson - Internet 3G Technologist Voice/Video: +447782324636 Fax: +447782799422 MSN:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: DNS SRV records
Darren Edmundson wrote: Unfortunately, it seems from my bugreport that the powers that be are as spit over this as we are, which is a shame - I'd have hoped that RFC compliance was an obvious aim for any piece of software *sigh* I have said time and time again, when it's not disabled in asterisk I will care more about it, so no point you and every other person on this list hassling me over it, it will be the LEAST pragmatic way to make anything occur. For the record about how my VoIP address looks. I highly doubt it will ever look like my email address, sure I could make it look like that but for the most part sip url's are useless to me as I can't dial them on my hardphone, and neither can anyone else I supply hardphones to. These guys don't give two hoots about what an SRV record is, all they care is being able to use their 12 (that's right, only 12, not 101, but 12, twelve...) key keypads to contact fred smith across the road, or jane doe in the next suburb. -- Best regards, Duane http://www.cacert.org - Free Security Certificates http://www.nodedb.com - Think globally, network locally http://www.sydneywireless.com - Telecommunications Freedom http://happysnapper.com.au - Sell your photos over the net! http://e164.org - Using Enum.164 to interconnect asterisk servers In the confrontation between the stream and the rock, the stream always wins; not through strength, but through persistence. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: DNS SRV records
Darren Edmundson wrote: ...until you need to place a call to someone who *has* followed the standard. I'm hedging my bets and advertising the A record, if at a later date I introduce an SRV record the A record will still be valid, and will be identical to the current one, oh look hasn't broken... In any case if you want to receive calls my advice still stands, use an A record, if you want to be compliant to standards and get no calls only use a SRV... I believe SER and I know the grandstream BT 101's have SRV off by default as well... So while you are arguing the merits endlessly of SRV records, those that took 5 seconds to setup and publish an A record were getting calls... As I said, if I have a mail server on the A record of a domain and it's set to accept mail it will still work, regardless of anything else, same with SIP URLs... -- Best regards, Duane http://www.cacert.org - Free Security Certificates http://www.nodedb.com - Think globally, network locally http://www.sydneywireless.com - Telecommunications Freedom http://happysnapper.com.au - Sell your photos over the net! http://e164.org - Using Enum.164 to interconnect asterisk servers In the confrontation between the stream and the rock, the stream always wins; not through strength, but through persistence. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Re: DNS SRV records
Darren Edmundson wrote: On Wed, 9 Jun 2004, Duane wrote: How's it a DNS hack when the SRV record includes the A record Because you're having to create subdoms and use them for your SIP addresses, This is not a hack, this is standard DNS practice. The same is done for a lot of services, including the web, ftp, gopher, ...creating domains with A records and using them for addresses has been standard for quite some time, and I don't think that will change very soon. rather than using the facilities that SIP provides to allow you to use your domain You mean the facilities that DNS provides? SRV records? Hrm...last I checked, STD 1 listed DNS SRV, SIP, and of particular note, the RFC that describes how to use SRV for SIP, as Proposed Standard. With that in mind, I hardly think it wise to shove it in everyone's faces and start a debate on whether or not all should rely on SRV records for SIP. The answer quite is quite obvious -- if you want to be compatible and follow standards, relying of DNS SRV is definitely not the way to go, yet. At this point, any SIP service provider that *relies* on addresses using SRV records should be chastized. The fact is it's probably not even supported (or enabled by default, for reasons mentioned above) in all softphones yet (yet alone all hardphones). Even in Asterisk last I checked, the feature was still experimental. I imagine something very similar happened when MX records were invented. So quite your whining and bashing and deal with what the Internet community has chosen until it changes. If anyone wishes to deploy SRV records, fine. I would encourage it -- it's easy to do while still maintaining backwards compatability. But if you wish to *rely* on them, you're on your own, and don't come back whining because no one else is using them and you suddenly aren't so popular on the phone, because it's not yet a published standard. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: DNS SRV records
Time for Duane to start implementing DNS SRV, since it's from now on is turned on by default in CVS head. Thank you, Mark! /O ;-) ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: DNS SRV records
Olle E. Johansson wrote: Time for Duane to start implementing DNS SRV, since it's from now on is turned on by default in CVS head. Unless you're planning on breaking other standards my A records will keep on working just fine :) -- Best regards, Duane http://www.cacert.org - Free Security Certificates http://www.nodedb.com - Think globally, network locally http://www.sydneywireless.com - Telecommunications Freedom http://happysnapper.com.au - Sell your photos over the net! http://e164.org - Using Enum.164 to interconnect asterisk servers In the confrontation between the stream and the rock, the stream always wins; not through strength, but through persistence. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: DNS SRV records
Duane wrote: If they want a simple method of allowing calls they should use enum, least then it's obvious that it isn't a email address and that they would possibly need to enable a few things to make it work. Enum doesn't replace SRV records at all. Enum records point to a SIP URI. To resolve the SIP URI you *need* DNS SRV support. To disable DNS SRV support when placing SIP calls over Internet is like disabling MX records when sending mails... You will not reach everyone. And yes, we need to fix Asterisks support of multiple SRV records. Any coders out there? /O ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: DNS SRV records
On Wed, 16 Jun 2004, Duane wrote: Olle E. Johansson wrote: [...H]owever sending mail to a host with only an A record will still be delivered if the host is configured to accept mail for the domain just like sip servers will accept the call if it's configured to accept the call... Yes it will, however that doesn't change the fact that the sending MTA is misconfigured, and you're relying on luck to get your mails through. The vast majority of domains will indeed fail. ...using the domain as the hostname and pointing that to a server *WILL* work just like SIP urls will... You're making some very big assumptions about how everyone else in the world will set up their SIP servers, and they're wrong assumptions. I suggest you read RFC 3263, which states, quite unambiguously how, given a URL of form sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED], your SIP server/UA should perform NAPTR lookups, then SRV lookups, and only if the SRV records fail, should it just send and hope, (as you suggest). This is the correct way to do things. This is how asterisk should do them. If you have a problem with the standard, the IETF SIP WG is the correct place to air them, but I suggest the people there will be only too happy to tell you why you're so very wrong too. - Darren -- Darren Edmundson - Internet 3G Technologist Voice/Video: +447782324636 Fax: +447782799422 MSN:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: DNS SRV records
Darren Edmundson wrote: This is the correct way to do things. This is how asterisk should do them. If you have a problem with the standard, the IETF SIP WG is the correct place to air them, but I suggest the people there will be only too happy to tell you why you're so very wrong too. My argument isn't about the standards or other software in general, my argument is how asterisk (and in this case only asterisk) comes, that is with SRV *disabled*, and the fact many people wouldn't understand what it's for, or why they should enable it. The documentation, well what documentation there is, simply isn't coherent enough, or detailed enough to explain these things, and the few lines in the config file certainly doesn't explain anything either... ;srvlookup=yes ; Enable DNS SRV lookups on outbound calls ; Note: Asterisk only uses the first host in SRV records Joe Public stumbles upon asterisk, not a clue what all the features and modules and what not is for, do you think he'll be clued up enough to remove the leading semicolon??? That is what my point is, until asterisk has it enabled by default, and all the current user base use a version of asterisk that supports it properly is there all that much point in promoting it so heavily? Now how many pieces of MTA software out of the box have MX record lookups disabled??? I'd hazard a guess at none... -- Best regards, Duane http://www.cacert.org - Free Security Certificates http://www.nodedb.com - Think globally, network locally http://www.sydneywireless.com - Telecommunications Freedom http://happysnapper.com.au - Sell your photos over the net! http://e164.org - Using Enum.164 to interconnect asterisk servers In the confrontation between the stream and the rock, the stream always wins; not through strength, but through persistence. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: DNS SRV records
On Tue, 8 Jun 2004, Duane wrote: Darren Edmundson wrote: My argument isn't about the standards or other software in general, my argument is how asterisk (and in this case only asterisk) comes, that is with SRV *disabled*, and the fact many people wouldn't understand what it's for, or why they should enable it. I apologise if I misunderstood your aims, however surely it is infinitely better to try and get asterisk standards compliant by default (preferably before the 1.0/1.1 release) rather than resort to promoting DNS hacks to get around what should be an easy enough bug to fix. That is what my point is, until asterisk has it enabled by default, and all the current user base use a version of asterisk that supports it properly is there all that much point in promoting it so heavily? There is a chicken-and-egg situation. If everyone uses only A-records then there will be no impetus for UAs and servers to support SRVs. If servers don't support it, then Admins will either choose to use only A records, or be forced to. Currently the SIP install base is small enough that things can still be fixed. The more people out there with non-compliant setups, the more difficult it will be to make the change. By all means, if you're running business critical services then use the A-record hack... but turn on SRV lookups on your own host. Be liberal in what you accept, strict in what you produce, as the saying goes. Since I can't see any obvious discussion of this on the -dev list archive, or in mantis, I've opened a bug report to see if the powers that be agree... Now how many pieces of MTA software out of the box have MX record lookups disabled??? I'd hazard a guess at none... I remember hearing of one common windoze one which even recently, but that might have been a bulk-mailer, and I think it's probably a desirable feature that a large proportion of spam be undeliverable :) - Darren -- Darren Edmundson - Internet 3G Technologist Voice/Video: +447782324636 Fax: +447782799422 MSN:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: DNS SRV records
Duane wrote: The documentation, well what documentation there is, simply isn't coherent enough, or detailed enough to explain these things, and the few lines in the config file certainly doesn't explain anything either... ;srvlookup=yes ; Enable DNS SRV lookups on outbound calls ; Note: Asterisk only uses the first host in SRV records Seems simple enough to me. If you think people are too stupid to figure it out, feel free to submit a patch that explains the setting in great detail. Joe Public stumbles upon asterisk, not a clue what all the features and modules and what not is for, do you think he'll be clued up enough to remove the leading semicolon??? Well, if he's not, he's pretty screwed anyway. I'm just wondering which MENSA class you entered. After all, everyone but you is an idiot according to you. Just how do you suppose that Joe Public stumbled across Asterisk in the first place? Is he now too stupid to google DNS SVR? Perhaps we should also modify the documentation to remind Joe Public to inhale and exhale, otherwise he'll die of lack of oxygen! That is what my point is, until asterisk has it enabled by default, and all the current user base use a version of asterisk that supports it properly is there all that much point in promoting it so heavily? Just as much point as promoting E164. Actually, MORE: DNS SVR is part of the RFC. Now how many pieces of MTA software out of the box have MX record lookups disabled??? I'd hazard a guess at none... Simple fix. Enable SVR lookups by default. How many people pointing out that you're wrong does it take for it to sink in? ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: DNS SRV records
On 08-06 18:06, Duane wrote: Darren Edmundson wrote: My argument isn't about the standards or other software in general, my argument is how asterisk (and in this case only asterisk) comes, that is with SRV *disabled*, and the fact many people wouldn't understand what it's for, or why they should enable it. The documentation, well what documentation there is, simply isn't coherent enough, or detailed enough to explain these things, and the few lines in the config file certainly doesn't explain anything either... ;srvlookup=yes ; Enable DNS SRV lookups on outbound calls ; Note: Asterisk only uses the first host in SRV records Joe Public stumbles upon asterisk, not a clue what all the features and modules and what not is for, do you think he'll be clued up enough to remove the leading semicolon??? That is what my point is, until asterisk has it enabled by default, and all the current user base use a version of asterisk that supports it properly is there all that much point in promoting it so heavily? Now how many pieces of MTA software out of the box have MX record lookups disabled??? I'd hazard a guess at none... In your own sandbox, feel free to do whatever you want. If the companies you promote asterisk to are going to call only you, feel free to promote whatever you want to them. But if any of them want to be interoperable with the rest of SIP-world, please STOP telling them to use A records instead of SRV. That way you are forcing others to do hacks they do not want to do ! SRV is essential for SIP, whether you like it or not, and there are companies out there that rely on it. Moreover, SIP is not just asterisk. You have absolutely no idea how many other SIP implementations are out there, you have no idea whether they follow RFC3265 or not, you have no idea how many companies rely or SRV. Nobody knows this and it is clear that your arguments are based on what do you *THINK* others do. And this is very bad because it kills interoperability. So, please, stop promoting using of A records instead of SRV, that would make our life a little bit easier, thank you. Jan. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: DNS SRV records
Darren Edmundson wrote: I apologise if I misunderstood your aims, however surely it is infinitely better to try and get asterisk standards compliant by default (preferably before the 1.0/1.1 release) rather than resort to promoting DNS hacks to get around what should be an easy enough bug to fix. How's it a DNS hack when the SRV record includes the A record There is a chicken-and-egg situation. If everyone uses only A-records then there will be no impetus for UAs and servers to support SRVs. If servers don't support it, then Admins will either choose to use only A records, or be forced to. Everyone will use A records regardless... They make up part of the SRV record so either way things aren't suddenly going to break... I remember hearing of one common windoze one which even recently, but that might have been a bulk-mailer, and I think it's probably a desirable feature that a large proportion of spam be undeliverable :) Apparently the infected windows machines are delivering the spam directly to the email client these days... -- Best regards, Duane http://www.cacert.org - Free Security Certificates http://www.nodedb.com - Think globally, network locally http://www.sydneywireless.com - Telecommunications Freedom http://happysnapper.com.au - Sell your photos over the net! http://e164.org - Using Enum.164 to interconnect asterisk servers In the confrontation between the stream and the rock, the stream always wins; not through strength, but through persistence. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: DNS SRV records
Jan Janak wrote: In your own sandbox, feel free to do whatever you want. If the companies you In my own sandbox I'm promoting enum, I can't dial SRV records from my SIP hard phone, I don't want to have a laptop to make calls, I want something small, and can dial a number easily without standing there typing a URL... Typing URLs are a pita from a phone perspective... Typing SMS's are a pita too, which is why I don't bother sending many except from a PC/laptop, and again I don't want to carry a laptop about with me... So, please, stop promoting using of A records instead of SRV, that would make our life a little bit easier, thank you. Everyone will use A records regardless... They make up part of the SRV record so either way things aren't suddenly going to break... In both case they work as well as each other BUT until someone out of the 4 or 5 that has whined about my posts gets it turned on by default OR better still turned on in code and not abled to disabled then I might actually care more about them. Until then it doesn't worry me 1 iota, they both work identically for me, and fine either way... -- Best regards, Duane http://www.cacert.org - Free Security Certificates http://www.nodedb.com - Think globally, network locally http://www.sydneywireless.com - Telecommunications Freedom http://happysnapper.com.au - Sell your photos over the net! http://e164.org - Using Enum.164 to interconnect asterisk servers In the confrontation between the stream and the rock, the stream always wins; not through strength, but through persistence. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: DNS SRV records
Olle E. Johansson wrote: Enum doesn't replace SRV records at all. I'm not suggesting it does, however sending mail to a host with only an A record will still be delivered if the host is configured to accept mail for the domain just like sip servers will accept the call if it's configured to accept the call... In both the case of SRV and MX you still have a hostname which ends up with the connection, all MX was introduced for was to enable things to be split up *IF* the administrator wanted it to be, however using the domain as the hostname and pointing that to a server *WILL* work just like SIP urls will... ENUM on the other hand will work just fine with either method, and my point about utilising enum in this fashion is that it will remove some confusion about what's happening and why it's happening. -- Best regards, Duane http://www.cacert.org - Free Security Certificates http://www.nodedb.com - Think globally, network locally http://www.sydneywireless.com - Telecommunications Freedom http://happysnapper.com.au - Sell your photos over the net! http://e164.org - Using Enum.164 to interconnect asterisk servers In the confrontation between the stream and the rock, the stream always wins; not through strength, but through persistence. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] Re: DNS SRV records
Randy Bush wrote: is this a feature or a bug? It does work AFAIK but why it's commented out by default, I'm guessing it's left over from when the code was being tested and didn't want to force untested code on people. -- Best regards, Duane http://www.cacert.org - Free Security Certificates http://www.nodedb.com - Think globally, network locally http://www.sydneywireless.com - Telecommunications Freedom http://happysnapper.com.au - Sell your photos over the net! http://e164.org - Using Enum.164 to interconnect asterisk servers In the confrontation between the stream and the rock, the stream always wins; not through strength, but through persistence. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: DNS SRV records
On Mon, 2004-06-07 at 13:27, Randy Bush wrote: Exactly my point, by ***DEFAULT*** Asterisk won't use SRV records, is this a feature or a bug? A feature of course, IMHO, nothing should be enabled by default. Let's not do a MS Windows product... In fact, I think it would be nice if all modules/apps/chans/etc were marked noload by default (except the bare minimum required to get asterisk to start with no channels...). Then, any new bug that was discovered, would only affect some small percentage of people who actually were using that part of asterisk. Personally, I've done a large part of this, but it isn't always easy to know which bits are part of the bare minimum and which bits are cheesy extras (like enum and SRV records)... Just my 0.02c worth... Regards, Adam ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: DNS SRV records
Adam Goryachev wrote: In fact, I think it would be nice if all modules/apps/chans/etc were marked noload by default (except the bare minimum required to get asterisk to start with no channels...). Then this goes back to my original point, I will not suggest people use SRV records if they want to receive calls as a large majority of Asterisk users won't be able to call them. If they want a simple method of allowing calls they should use enum, least then it's obvious that it isn't a email address and that they would possibly need to enable a few things to make it work. -- Best regards, Duane http://www.cacert.org - Free Security Certificates http://www.nodedb.com - Think globally, network locally http://www.sydneywireless.com - Telecommunications Freedom http://happysnapper.com.au - Sell your photos over the net! http://e164.org - Using Enum.164 to interconnect asterisk servers In the confrontation between the stream and the rock, the stream always wins; not through strength, but through persistence. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Re: DNS SRV records
Duane wrote: Adam Goryachev wrote: In fact, I think it would be nice if all modules/apps/chans/etc were marked noload by default (except the bare minimum required to get asterisk to start with no channels...). Then this goes back to my original point, I will not suggest people use SRV records if they want to receive calls as a large majority of Asterisk users won't be able to call them. [snip] Is it not possible to use both? ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: DNS SRV records
can enum be used with asterisk? if so how? - Original Message - From: Duane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 07, 2004 6:09 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: DNS SRV records Adam Goryachev wrote: In fact, I think it would be nice if all modules/apps/chans/etc were marked noload by default (except the bare minimum required to get asterisk to start with no channels...). Then this goes back to my original point, I will not suggest people use SRV records if they want to receive calls as a large majority of Asterisk users won't be able to call them. If they want a simple method of allowing calls they should use enum, least then it's obvious that it isn't a email address and that they would possibly need to enable a few things to make it work. -- Best regards, Duane http://www.cacert.org - Free Security Certificates http://www.nodedb.com - Think globally, network locally http://www.sydneywireless.com - Telecommunications Freedom http://happysnapper.com.au - Sell your photos over the net! http://e164.org - Using Enum.164 to interconnect asterisk servers In the confrontation between the stream and the rock, the stream always wins; not through strength, but through persistence. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: DNS SRV records
Aaron J. Angel wrote: Is it not possible to use both? Of course, but publishing an SRV address without SRV lookups enabled for the majority of people would be like giving a post office box address to a courier company, they have a rough idea where it is but can't get to it under normal circumstances unless they have agreements in place with other couriers/the post offices (ie enabling SRV lookups)... -- Best regards, Duane http://www.cacert.org - Free Security Certificates http://www.nodedb.com - Think globally, network locally http://www.sydneywireless.com - Telecommunications Freedom http://happysnapper.com.au - Sell your photos over the net! http://e164.org - Using Enum.164 to interconnect asterisk servers In the confrontation between the stream and the rock, the stream always wins; not through strength, but through persistence. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] Re: DNS SRV records
Exactly my point, by ***DEFAULT*** Asterisk won't use SRV records, is this a feature or a bug? randy ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
