Re: [asterisk-users] SS7 and Asterisk

2010-02-05 Thread ABBAS SHAKEEL
Please some one shed some light on it..

On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 6:48 PM, ABBAS SHAKEEL
shakeel.abbas@gmail.comwrote:

 Hello All,
 Please let me know Answers to the following questions .Backgroud.

 1. Which one is better to use libss7 or chan_ss7. Today first time i come
 to know about it ... little bit i googled but need experts comment on it.
 2. I have perpared my server ie installed Asterisk , Configured TE420P  
 delevired to Telco the Operator. I come to know that ss7 signalling will be
 used. Now can i install SS7 signalling as Asterisk and other things are
 already installed OR i may do the installation from scratch then install in
 sequence.

 Please keep in mind i heard this thing today ... made search for it about 3
 hours..
 It will be really nice if some one shed some light on its configuration

 Please shed some light on it

 Thanks

 Best Regards
 Shakeel Abbas




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Re: [asterisk-users] SS7 and Asterisk

2010-02-05 Thread Tim Nelson
- ABBAS SHAKEEL shakeel.abbas@gmail.com wrote: 
 Please some one shed some light on it.. 
 

Sangoma offers SS7 solutions for Asterisk using their SMG platform: 

http://sangoma.com/products/software_building_blocks/ss7_solutions/ss7_signaling_and_media_gateway.html
 

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[asterisk-users] SS7 and Asterisk

2010-02-04 Thread ABBAS SHAKEEL
Hello All,
Please let me know Answers to the following questions .Backgroud.

1. Which one is better to use libss7 or chan_ss7. Today first time i come to
know about it ... little bit i googled but need experts comment on it.
2. I have perpared my server ie installed Asterisk , Configured TE420P  
delevired to Telco the Operator. I come to know that ss7 signalling will be
used. Now can i install SS7 signalling as Asterisk and other things are
already installed OR i may do the installation from scratch then install in
sequence.

Please keep in mind i heard this thing today ... made search for it about 3
hours..
It will be really nice if some one shed some light on its configuration

Please shed some light on it

Thanks

Best Regards
Shakeel Abbas
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 with Asterisk

2005-10-12 Thread Goran Skular
Name of the company is MULTI-line GmbH

You can contact mr. Zlatko Medibach at +43 1 78932320 or on cellular +43 676
3220262.
Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Their HQ is in Wien..

I can not help you with the details, I just know that they implemented SS7
on * for some telcos there.

Goran

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Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 with Asterisk

Goran,

which company ist this ? Do they use the www.ss7box.com
approach ?

Thanks and best regards

Hans



Goran Skular schrieb:

anyone running SS7 with Asterisk ? Please help me out.
I need to know the hardware used for SS7 with Digium E1 cards...



I can point you to one company in Austria. They deployed SS7 on Asterisk,
but not with Digium cards for one smaller telco.




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[Asterisk-Users] SS7 with Asterisk

2005-10-11 Thread Usman

anyone running SS7 with Asterisk ? Please help me out.
I need to know the hardware used for SS7 with Digium E1 cards...



Thanks,


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RE: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 with Asterisk

2005-10-11 Thread Goran Skular
anyone running SS7 with Asterisk ? Please help me out.
I need to know the hardware used for SS7 with Digium E1 cards...

I can point you to one company in Austria. They deployed SS7 on Asterisk,
but not with Digium cards for one smaller telco.

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 with Asterisk

2005-10-11 Thread harry gaillac
Hello,

I think you have to contact digium for software to
support SS7 with digium cards.

Harry
--- Usman [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :

 
 anyone running SS7 with Asterisk ? Please help me
 out.
 I need to know the hardware used for SS7 with Digium
 E1 cards...
 
 
 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 with Asterisk

2005-10-11 Thread Roger Schreiter

Usman schrieb:

anyone running SS7 with Asterisk ? Please help me out.
I need to know the hardware used for SS7 with Digium E1 cards...



google shows for the words asterisk and ss7 amongst the
top five:

http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk+SS7


This will give you the desired answers.

Roger.

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 with Asterisk

2005-10-11 Thread harry gaillac
Look at http://www.ss7box.com/ too.

Harry
--- Goran Skular [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit
:

 anyone running SS7 with Asterisk ? Please help me
 out.
 I need to know the hardware used for SS7 with
 Digium E1 cards...
 
 I can point you to one company in Austria. They
 deployed SS7 on Asterisk,
 but not with Digium cards for one smaller telco.
 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 with Asterisk

2005-10-11 Thread Johann Steinwendtner

Goran,

which company ist this ? Do they use the www.ss7box.com
approach ?

Thanks and best regards

Hans



Goran Skular schrieb:


anyone running SS7 with Asterisk ? Please help me out.
I need to know the hardware used for SS7 with Digium E1 cards...
   



I can point you to one company in Austria. They deployed SS7 on Asterisk,
but not with Digium cards for one smaller telco.

 



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RE: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 and Asterisk solution

2005-01-17 Thread Michael Baird
Same here, interested in the details of a SS7/Asterisk solution.

Regards
MIKE
 Steve,
 
 I also would be very interested in getting those details. We would very
 much like to move forward with SS7, please feel free to contact me off
 list.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Ben Merrills
 Griffin Internet
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Felix
 Skwarczynski
 Sent: 14 January 2005 09:23
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 and Asterisk solution
 
 Hi Steve,
 
 I also want the commercial details, so if you can send them to me or put
 
 me in touch with somebody who can it would be very helpfull.
 
 Thank you in advance,
 Felix Skwarczynski
 
 Steve Underwood wrote:
 
  Hi Bartosz,
 
  We have a commercial SS7 for Asterisk that is running at a few test 
  sites, and which we are just about ready to supply to a broader range 
  of customers. This actually links into Asterisk, so we need to use a 
  commercially licenced copy of Asterisk. If this sounds interesting to 
  you, I can put you in touch with someone who will give you the 
  commercial details.
 
  Regards,
  Steve
 
  Bartosz Jozwiak wrote:
 
  Hello,
 
  We are looking for commercial solution SS7 with Asterisk.
  It does not need to be build-in with Asterisk.
  Could anybody suggest something?
 
  Thank you in advance.
  Bart
 
 
 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 and Asterisk solution

2005-01-14 Thread Felix Skwarczynski
Hi Steve,
I also want the commercial details, so if you can send them to me or put 
me in touch with somebody who can it would be very helpfull.

Thank you in advance,
Felix Skwarczynski
Steve Underwood wrote:
Hi Bartosz,
We have a commercial SS7 for Asterisk that is running at a few test 
sites, and which we are just about ready to supply to a broader range 
of customers. This actually links into Asterisk, so we need to use a 
commercially licenced copy of Asterisk. If this sounds interesting to 
you, I can put you in touch with someone who will give you the 
commercial details.

Regards,
Steve
Bartosz Jozwiak wrote:
Hello,
We are looking for commercial solution SS7 with Asterisk.
It does not need to be build-in with Asterisk.
Could anybody suggest something?
Thank you in advance.
Bart

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 and Asterisk solution

2005-01-14 Thread Ben Merrills
Steve,

I also would be very interested in getting those details. We would very
much like to move forward with SS7, please feel free to contact me off
list.

Cheers,

Ben Merrills
Griffin Internet



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Felix
Skwarczynski
Sent: 14 January 2005 09:23
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 and Asterisk solution

Hi Steve,

I also want the commercial details, so if you can send them to me or put

me in touch with somebody who can it would be very helpfull.

Thank you in advance,
Felix Skwarczynski

Steve Underwood wrote:

 Hi Bartosz,

 We have a commercial SS7 for Asterisk that is running at a few test 
 sites, and which we are just about ready to supply to a broader range 
 of customers. This actually links into Asterisk, so we need to use a 
 commercially licenced copy of Asterisk. If this sounds interesting to 
 you, I can put you in touch with someone who will give you the 
 commercial details.

 Regards,
 Steve

 Bartosz Jozwiak wrote:

 Hello,

 We are looking for commercial solution SS7 with Asterisk.
 It does not need to be build-in with Asterisk.
 Could anybody suggest something?

 Thank you in advance.
 Bart



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Re: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 and Asterisk solution

2005-01-14 Thread Matthew Boehm
 This actually links into Asterisk, so we need to use a 
 commercially licenced copy of Asterisk.

Why does it have to be commercially licenced?

-Matthew
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 and Asterisk solution

2005-01-14 Thread Sean Lowry
Steve, 

Add another one to your list. The sooner really you can get me information
the better.

Sean Lowry

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From: Ben Merrills [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 14 January 2005 09:33
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 and Asterisk solution

Steve,

I also would be very interested in getting those details. We would very
much like to move forward with SS7, please feel free to contact me off
list.

Cheers,

Ben Merrills
Griffin Internet



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Felix
Skwarczynski
Sent: 14 January 2005 09:23
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 and Asterisk solution

Hi Steve,

I also want the commercial details, so if you can send them to me or put

me in touch with somebody who can it would be very helpfull.

Thank you in advance,
Felix Skwarczynski

Steve Underwood wrote:

 Hi Bartosz,

 We have a commercial SS7 for Asterisk that is running at a few test 
 sites, and which we are just about ready to supply to a broader range 
 of customers. This actually links into Asterisk, so we need to use a 
 commercially licenced copy of Asterisk. If this sounds interesting to 
 you, I can put you in touch with someone who will give you the 
 commercial details.

 Regards,
 Steve

 Bartosz Jozwiak wrote:

 Hello,

 We are looking for commercial solution SS7 with Asterisk.
 It does not need to be build-in with Asterisk.
 Could anybody suggest something?

 Thank you in advance.
 Bart



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Re: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 and Asterisk solution

2005-01-14 Thread Michael B. Murdock
Steve,

Please add me also to your list interested in an SS7 solution... we are
starting a development project of our own and would like to make a buy vs.
build decision soon.

-- Mike Murdock


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 Steve,

 Add another one to your list. The sooner really you can get me information
 the better.

 Sean Lowry

 -Original Message-
 From: Ben Merrills [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 14 January 2005 09:33
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 and Asterisk solution

 Steve,

 I also would be very interested in getting those details. We would very
 much like to move forward with SS7, please feel free to contact me off
 list.

 Cheers,

 Ben Merrills
 Griffin Internet



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Felix
 Skwarczynski
 Sent: 14 January 2005 09:23
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 and Asterisk solution

 Hi Steve,

 I also want the commercial details, so if you can send them to me or put

 me in touch with somebody who can it would be very helpfull.

 Thank you in advance,
 Felix Skwarczynski

 Steve Underwood wrote:

  Hi Bartosz,
 
  We have a commercial SS7 for Asterisk that is running at a few test
  sites, and which we are just about ready to supply to a broader range
  of customers. This actually links into Asterisk, so we need to use a
  commercially licenced copy of Asterisk. If this sounds interesting to
  you, I can put you in touch with someone who will give you the
  commercial details.
 
  Regards,
  Steve
 
  Bartosz Jozwiak wrote:
 
  Hello,
 
  We are looking for commercial solution SS7 with Asterisk.
  It does not need to be build-in with Asterisk.
  Could anybody suggest something?
 
  Thank you in advance.
  Bart
 
 
 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 and Asterisk solution

2005-01-14 Thread izo
On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:01:52 -0600, Matthew Boehm wrote:
 Why does it have to be commercially licenced?

Without it, the SS7 software would be linking to GPL software which
means they would have
to GPL the code too. So the only way to get commercial SS7 is to have
it with commercial
asterisk.

m.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 and Asterisk solution

2005-01-14 Thread Matthew Boehm
So are you telling me that you cannot use other commercial products in
conjunction with asterisk?

Matthew
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 On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:01:52 -0600, Matthew Boehm wrote:
  Why does it have to be commercially licenced?

 Without it, the SS7 software would be linking to GPL software which
 means they would have
 to GPL the code too. So the only way to get commercial SS7 is to have
 it with commercial
 asterisk.

 m.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 and Asterisk solution

2005-01-14 Thread Steven Critchfield
On Fri, 2005-01-14 at 14:09 -0600, Matthew Boehm wrote:
 So are you telling me that you cannot use other commercial products in
 conjunction with asterisk?

Time for you to go learn about the GPL. Time to go learn about proper
trimming of an email. Time to learn how to use the archives for
information already given. Time to go learn a lot of things. Please add
those 3 to your ToDo list though.

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  On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:01:52 -0600, Matthew Boehm wrote:
   Why does it have to be commercially licenced?
 
  Without it, the SS7 software would be linking to GPL software which
  means they would have
  to GPL the code too. So the only way to get commercial SS7 is to have
  it with commercial
  asterisk.
 
-- 
Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 and Asterisk solution

2005-01-14 Thread Eric Wieling aka ManxPower
Matthew Boehm wrote:
So are you telling me that you cannot use other commercial products in
conjunction with asterisk?
You cannot distribute a closed source add-on (except AGI) for Asterisk 
without a commercial license for Asterisk.  This is just standard GPL 
stuff, not Asterisk sprcific.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 and Asterisk solution

2005-01-14 Thread Matthew Boehm
Time for you to learn some maners and not to bitch at/insult people for
something they don't understand. Time for you to stop telling people what to
do. Please add those 2 to you ToDo list.

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Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 and Asterisk solution


 On Fri, 2005-01-14 at 14:09 -0600, Matthew Boehm wrote:
  So are you telling me that you cannot use other commercial products in
  conjunction with asterisk?

 Time for you to go learn about the GPL. Time to go learn about proper
 trimming of an email. Time to learn how to use the archives for
 information already given. Time to go learn a lot of things. Please add
 those 3 to your ToDo list though.

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  asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
  Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 1:32 PM
  Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 and Asterisk solution
 
 
   On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:01:52 -0600, Matthew Boehm wrote:
Why does it have to be commercially licenced?
  
   Without it, the SS7 software would be linking to GPL software which
   means they would have
   to GPL the code too. So the only way to get commercial SS7 is to have
   it with commercial
   asterisk.
  
 -- 
 Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 and Asterisk solution

2005-01-14 Thread Matthew Boehm
Eric,
  Thank you for explaining this to me instead of being rude and bitching at
me about my lack of GPL understanding.

Sincerely,
Matthew
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 Matthew Boehm wrote:
  So are you telling me that you cannot use other commercial products in
  conjunction with asterisk?

 You cannot distribute a closed source add-on (except AGI) for Asterisk
 without a commercial license for Asterisk.  This is just standard GPL
 stuff, not Asterisk sprcific.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 and Asterisk solution

2005-01-14 Thread Eric Wieling aka ManxPower
Matthew Boehm wrote:
Eric,
  Thank you for explaining this to me instead of being rude and bitching at
me about my lack of GPL understanding.
You caught me in an unusally good mood, that's all.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 and Asterisk solution

2005-01-14 Thread Steven Critchfield
On Fri, 2005-01-14 at 14:38 -0600, Matthew Boehm wrote:
 Time for you to learn some maners and not to bitch at/insult people for
 something they don't understand. Time for you to stop telling people what to
 do. Please add those 2 to you ToDo list.

Before your whining gets too out of hand, you need to find anything
specific in my original reply that was a blatant insult.If you don't
like being called for being lazy, then don't act that way. 

The information was put before you to then do the minor amount of
homework necessary to understand. In this case, while Eric Wieling did
you a favor and explained a bit more, it should have been left as an
exercise for the reader as it involves legalities that while most of us
agree with the answer, we are not qualified to give the advice.(you
know, no law degree, not retained counsel and all that fun stuff) It
also is covered in the GPL faq. I'm sure a simple search of the archive
would show a few threads of this exact nature in less than 

 - Original Message - 
 From: Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
 Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 2:19 PM
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 and Asterisk solution
 
 
  On Fri, 2005-01-14 at 14:09 -0600, Matthew Boehm wrote:
   So are you telling me that you cannot use other commercial products in
   conjunction with asterisk?
 
  Time for you to go learn about the GPL. Time to go learn about proper
  trimming of an email. Time to learn how to use the archives for
  information already given. Time to go learn a lot of things. Please add
  those 3 to your ToDo list though.
 
   - Original Message - 
   From: izo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
   asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
   Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 1:32 PM
   Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 and Asterisk solution
  
  
On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:01:52 -0600, Matthew Boehm wrote:
 Why does it have to be commercially licenced?
   
Without it, the SS7 software would be linking to GPL software which
means they would have
to GPL the code too. So the only way to get commercial SS7 is to have
it with commercial
asterisk.
   

-- 
Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 and Asterisk solution

2005-01-12 Thread Steve Underwood
Hi Bartosz,
We have a commercial SS7 for Asterisk that is running at a few test 
sites, and which we are just about ready to supply to a broader range of 
customers. This actually links into Asterisk, so we need to use a 
commercially licenced copy of Asterisk. If this sounds interesting to 
you, I can put you in touch with someone who will give you the 
commercial details.

Regards,
Steve
Bartosz Jozwiak wrote:
Hello,
We are looking for commercial solution SS7 with Asterisk.
It does not need to be build-in with Asterisk.
Could anybody suggest something?
Thank you in advance.
Bart

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 and Asterisk solution

2005-01-12 Thread Matthew Boehm
Isn't the goal to move away from SS7? SS7 is pretty old technology. That is
what we are doing. We are dropping 2 SS7 carriers and will now send traffic
to them directly as SIP.

-Matthew

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To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 7:44 PM
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 and Asterisk solution


 Hello,

 We are looking for commercial solution SS7 with Asterisk.
 It does not need to be build-in with Asterisk.
 Could anybody suggest something?

 Thank you in advance.
 Bart
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 and Asterisk solution

2005-01-12 Thread Steve Underwood
Matthew Boehm wrote:
Isn't the goal to move away from SS7? SS7 is pretty old technology. That is
what we are doing. We are dropping 2 SS7 carriers and will now send traffic
to them directly as SIP.
 

So how do I connect to a PSTN line by SIP? :-)
SS7 is the basis for the entire world's telephone network signalling. 
New forms which run over IP are being deployed. Even if the last 
remaining fragments of the PSTN are shut down, and everything on land 
lines is IP based, SS7 is still the core protocol for the cellular 
networks - GSM-A, for example, is built upon SS7. Of course, its always 
possible WiMAX might shut those down too. :-)

Regards,
Steve
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 and Asterisk solution

2005-01-12 Thread Damon Estep
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Underwood
 Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 7:10 AM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 and Asterisk solution
 
 Matthew Boehm wrote:
 
 Isn't the goal to move away from SS7? SS7 is pretty old technology.
That
 is
 what we are doing. We are dropping 2 SS7 carriers and will now send
 traffic
 to them directly as SIP.
 
 
 So how do I connect to a PSTN line by SIP? :-)
 
 SS7 is the basis for the entire world's telephone network signalling.
 New forms which run over IP are being deployed. Even if the last
 remaining fragments of the PSTN are shut down, and everything on land
 lines is IP based, SS7 is still the core protocol for the cellular
 networks - GSM-A, for example, is built upon SS7. Of course, its
always
 possible WiMAX might shut those down too. :-)
 
 Regards,
 Steve
 

Steve,

So you do not think that SIGTRAN has legs?

Damon
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 and Asterisk solution

2005-01-12 Thread Steve Underwood
Damon Estep wrote:
Steve,
So you do not think that SIGTRAN has legs?
Damon
 

Dunno. If there are a huge proliferation of IP telephony, what part 
would SIGTRAN play? Seems like its superfluous in that scenario. Like I 
said, its being deployed now, but that is mostly within the existing 
PSTN framework - SS7 over IP instead of MTP controlling the good old 
switched circuits. What future role do you see for it?

Regards,
Steve
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 and Asterisk solution

2005-01-12 Thread Damon Estep
 Damon Estep wrote:
 
 Steve,
 
 So you do not think that SIGTRAN has legs?
 
 Damon
 
 
 Dunno. If there are a huge proliferation of IP telephony, what part
 would SIGTRAN play? Seems like its superfluous in that scenario. Like
I
 said, its being deployed now, but that is mostly within the existing
 PSTN framework - SS7 over IP instead of MTP controlling the good old
 switched circuits. What future role do you see for it?
 
 Regards,
 Steve
 

Hard to tell this early on, but is seems like the main goal of a lot of
VoIP service providers (including us) is to bypass the PSTN in every way
possible.

If VoIP ever reaches critical mass, which is likely, it would make sense
for the VoIP providers to bypass SS7 and find a way to exchange
information without it. It seems to me the main reason to go SS7 is to
be able to bill carriers for termination on your network and gain access
to Inter-Machine Trunks.

VoIP providers are not really collecting a lot of termination money
right now; it is usually the upstream provider that running the class 5
switches that receives that revenue. VoIP providers are more concerned
with being able to offer free long distance, which requires toll bypass
via VoIP.

I do not have a great education on the issue, but what I do know
indicates that a lot of the domestic long distance, particularly the
calling card portion, already bypasses large PSTN spans.

Once the value of being able to collect termination fees deteriorates it
is likely that the system that drives it will deteriorate as well.

One thing that I think confuses the issue is local number portability,
since it will be much harder to route calls as the NPA/NXX boundaries
disappear. I am obviously speaking from a USA perspective.

At some point you have to get in front of the SS7 network to know when
you can bypass it, and that will have to come in the form of a public
registry of phone numbers, much like ARIN/APIC/RIPE do now or IP
numbers. Again local number portability really mucks this up.

Who knows? I think we would both agree that for the near future SS7 is
reality and there is a market for an * implementation as long as he US
based RBOCs will certify it.






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Re: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 and Asterisk solution

2005-01-12 Thread Bartosz Jozwiak
Hi Steve,
That would be great.
I am very interested to get in touch as soon as possible with somebody
who could offer such a solution.
Bartosz
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Hi Bartosz,
We have a commercial SS7 for Asterisk that is running at a few test sites, 
and which we are just about ready to supply to a broader range of 
customers. This actually links into Asterisk, so we need to use a 
commercially licenced copy of Asterisk. If this sounds interesting to you, 
I can put you in touch with someone who will give you the commercial 
details.

Regards,
Steve
Bartosz Jozwiak wrote:
Hello,
We are looking for commercial solution SS7 with Asterisk.
It does not need to be build-in with Asterisk.
Could anybody suggest something?
Thank you in advance.
Bart

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 and Asterisk solution

2005-01-12 Thread Matthew Boehm
We terminate local calls over PRI. Everything else goes out VoIP via SIP to
national carriers and they terminate it.
Can't you use a channel bank or an FX card to connect to PSTN? Or PRI..

-Matthew

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Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 and Asterisk solution


 Matthew Boehm wrote:

 Isn't the goal to move away from SS7? SS7 is pretty old technology. That
is
 what we are doing. We are dropping 2 SS7 carriers and will now send
traffic
 to them directly as SIP.
 
 
 So how do I connect to a PSTN line by SIP? :-)

 SS7 is the basis for the entire world's telephone network signalling.
 New forms which run over IP are being deployed. Even if the last
 remaining fragments of the PSTN are shut down, and everything on land
 lines is IP based, SS7 is still the core protocol for the cellular
 networks - GSM-A, for example, is built upon SS7. Of course, its always
 possible WiMAX might shut those down too. :-)

 Regards,
 Steve

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 and Asterisk solution

2005-01-12 Thread Ben Merrills
We have the problem that our telecoms provider deals mainly in SS7 (C7,
and it seems most in the UK do). For us to take EuroISDN off them, with
the same features as SS7, we have to be put through a protocol
converter, now this isn't an issue for us, but it is for them.

Most UK phone companies (i.e. BT or the smaller regional carriers) all
use SS7, everywhere! For the most part they don't accept VoIP
termination (although I think BT might have some facilities for this).
So they very much try and push SS7 on interconnects.

And that's why SS7, for me (and I think for quite a few others taking
PRI style links in the UK) is so important.

Ben


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Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 and Asterisk solution

We terminate local calls over PRI. Everything else goes out VoIP via SIP
to
national carriers and they terminate it.
Can't you use a channel bank or an FX card to connect to PSTN? Or PRI..

-Matthew

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Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 and Asterisk solution


 Matthew Boehm wrote:

 Isn't the goal to move away from SS7? SS7 is pretty old technology.
That
is
 what we are doing. We are dropping 2 SS7 carriers and will now send
traffic
 to them directly as SIP.
 
 
 So how do I connect to a PSTN line by SIP? :-)

 SS7 is the basis for the entire world's telephone network signalling.
 New forms which run over IP are being deployed. Even if the last
 remaining fragments of the PSTN are shut down, and everything on land
 lines is IP based, SS7 is still the core protocol for the cellular
 networks - GSM-A, for example, is built upon SS7. Of course, its
always
 possible WiMAX might shut those down too. :-)

 Regards,
 Steve

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 and Asterisk solution

2005-01-12 Thread Matthew Boehm
ahh..american arrogance. I assumed you were in the US.
We pay $2000 a month for DS3/SS7 to national carrier. We will soon be
dropping the SS7 and turning that voice DS3 into a bandwidth DS3. We will
still use the carrier but all calls will terminate to them VoIP. It will
save us over $2000 a month.

-Matthew
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Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 11:30 AM
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 and Asterisk solution


We have the problem that our telecoms provider deals mainly in SS7 (C7,
and it seems most in the UK do). For us to take EuroISDN off them, with
the same features as SS7, we have to be put through a protocol
converter, now this isn't an issue for us, but it is for them.

Most UK phone companies (i.e. BT or the smaller regional carriers) all
use SS7, everywhere! For the most part they don't accept VoIP
termination (although I think BT might have some facilities for this).
So they very much try and push SS7 on interconnects.

And that's why SS7, for me (and I think for quite a few others taking
PRI style links in the UK) is so important.

Ben


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Boehm
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Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 and Asterisk solution

We terminate local calls over PRI. Everything else goes out VoIP via SIP
to
national carriers and they terminate it.
Can't you use a channel bank or an FX card to connect to PSTN? Or PRI..

-Matthew

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Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 8:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 and Asterisk solution


 Matthew Boehm wrote:

 Isn't the goal to move away from SS7? SS7 is pretty old technology.
That
is
 what we are doing. We are dropping 2 SS7 carriers and will now send
traffic
 to them directly as SIP.
 
 
 So how do I connect to a PSTN line by SIP? :-)

 SS7 is the basis for the entire world's telephone network signalling.
 New forms which run over IP are being deployed. Even if the last
 remaining fragments of the PSTN are shut down, and everything on land
 lines is IP based, SS7 is still the core protocol for the cellular
 networks - GSM-A, for example, is built upon SS7. Of course, its
always
 possible WiMAX might shut those down too. :-)

 Regards,
 Steve

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 and Asterisk solution

2005-01-12 Thread Chris Modesitt
 ahh..american arrogance


Excuse me but I am an American, and while I have rightly been accused of
many things most of us aren't arrogant.  You must have a superiority complex
to be making comments like that to a list of over 800 people.


Chris.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 and Asterisk solution

2005-01-12 Thread Steve Kennedy
On Wed, Jan 12, 2005 at 05:30:31PM -, Ben Merrills wrote:

 We have the problem that our telecoms provider deals mainly in SS7 (C7,
 and it seems most in the UK do). For us to take EuroISDN off them, with
 the same features as SS7, we have to be put through a protocol
 converter, now this isn't an issue for us, but it is for them.
 Most UK phone companies (i.e. BT or the smaller regional carriers) all
 use SS7, everywhere! For the most part they don't accept VoIP
 termination (although I think BT might have some facilities for this).
 So they very much try and push SS7 on interconnects.
 And that's why SS7, for me (and I think for quite a few others taking
 PRI style links in the UK) is so important.

Unfortunately SS7 comes at a cost. In the UK to talk to a telco using
SS7 you generally needed a Telecomms license (which mandates telcos to
interchange traffic with you). Now telco licenses have been scrapped (as
per EU directives and the Communications Act) you're just meant to be
able to ask etc.

However they can demand that your SS7 stack is certified, and BT take
about 6 months to provision/test an SS7 voice interconnect, other telcos
may take longer. If you scr*w up at the SS7 level, they'll disconnect
you as fast as you can shout sorry, and they can refuse to
interconnect with you ever again !!!

You also have to be running the right version of SS7 (I think the latest
is UK8, though a lot of operators are running UK7).

Steve

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 and Asterisk solution

2005-01-12 Thread Steve Kennedy
On Wed, Jan 12, 2005 at 05:30:31PM -, Ben Merrills wrote:

 Most UK phone companies (i.e. BT or the smaller regional carriers) all
 use SS7, everywhere! For the most part they don't accept VoIP
 termination (although I think BT might have some facilities for this).
 So they very much try and push SS7 on interconnects.

[sorry missed this bit]

I wouldn't be suprised if most traditional carriers don't support VoIP
termination within the next few months. I know several working on just
that now.


Steve

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 and Asterisk solution

2005-01-12 Thread dean collins
Ha ha ha you are kidding right Chris? Americans are the most arrogant
people on the face of the planet.

Lets not make this a 'holy war' about nationalities we all have our own
shortcomings (like aussies who would prefer to sink piss (beer) rather
than expend our energies in more significant areas) but this has to be
said.


Cheers,
Dean




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 ahh..american arrogance


Excuse me but I am an American, and while I have rightly been accused of
many things most of us aren't arrogant.  You must have a superiority
complex
to be making comments like that to a list of over 800 people.


Chris.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 and Asterisk solution

2005-01-12 Thread Richard Lyman
Chris Modesitt wrote:
ahh..american arrogance

Excuse me but I am an American, and while I have rightly been accused of
many things most of us aren't arrogant.  You must have a superiority complex
to be making comments like that to a list of over 800 people.
Chris.
800  ??   you drop a zero or something?  (looks around on the floor)
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 and Asterisk solution

2005-01-12 Thread Brian C. Fertig
If you are looking for a SS7 solution right now with out paying anything
more for asterisk you can purchase a solution from Verisign called
SIP-7.  You send your signaling to them and they send the RTP to your
media gateway.  From what I understand its very efficient and offers all
the same features as SS7 does.  They also have an interconnect with
Cable and Wireless in the UK for services there.

 
 
.o---o.
Brian Fertig
Network Engineer
Planet Telecom, Inc.
Tampa, FL Office


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On Wed, Jan 12, 2005 at 05:30:31PM -, Ben Merrills wrote:

 We have the problem that our telecoms provider deals mainly in SS7
(C7,
 and it seems most in the UK do). For us to take EuroISDN off them,
with
 the same features as SS7, we have to be put through a protocol
 converter, now this isn't an issue for us, but it is for them.
 Most UK phone companies (i.e. BT or the smaller regional carriers) all
 use SS7, everywhere! For the most part they don't accept VoIP
 termination (although I think BT might have some facilities for this).
 So they very much try and push SS7 on interconnects.
 And that's why SS7, for me (and I think for quite a few others taking
 PRI style links in the UK) is so important.

Unfortunately SS7 comes at a cost. In the UK to talk to a telco using
SS7 you generally needed a Telecomms license (which mandates telcos to
interchange traffic with you). Now telco licenses have been scrapped (as
per EU directives and the Communications Act) you're just meant to be
able to ask etc.

However they can demand that your SS7 stack is certified, and BT take
about 6 months to provision/test an SS7 voice interconnect, other telcos
may take longer. If you scr*w up at the SS7 level, they'll disconnect
you as fast as you can shout sorry, and they can refuse to
interconnect with you ever again !!!

You also have to be running the right version of SS7 (I think the latest
is UK8, though a lot of operators are running UK7).

Steve

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 and Asterisk solution

2005-01-12 Thread Paul Rodan
Don't mind them Chris, as an American I stand by you, as would most
Americans on this list, and maybe many thousands of American troops too.

I do know that when I went to Australia, a lot of people there had certain
preconceptions of me, being an American, and I can tell you that I surprised
many of them in a good way, a lot of them told me I wasn't like what they
expected. Maybe its their society, or the media, or jealousy or something
else that turns them to think negative things about us, but it's ok. Part of
being the better man is just ignoring them and walking away. This I have
learned on the net, when there are no borders.

Now on with the real topic, SS7 and Asterisk. 


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Ha ha ha you are kidding right Chris? Americans are the most arrogant
people on the face of the planet.

Lets not make this a 'holy war' about nationalities we all have our own
shortcomings (like aussies who would prefer to sink piss (beer) rather
than expend our energies in more significant areas) but this has to be
said.


Cheers,
Dean




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 ahh..american arrogance


Excuse me but I am an American, and while I have rightly been accused of
many things most of us aren't arrogant.  You must have a superiority
complex
to be making comments like that to a list of over 800 people.


Chris.

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 and Asterisk solution

2005-01-12 Thread Chris Modesitt
A little, I just didn't think there was any reason for the comment, whether
it be true or not:) Ben was just trying to be helpful.

Chris.

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Ha ha ha you are kidding right Chris? Americans are the most arrogant
people on the face of the planet.

Lets not make this a 'holy war' about nationalities we all have our own
shortcomings (like aussies who would prefer to sink piss (beer) rather
than expend our energies in more significant areas) but this has to be
said.


Cheers,
Dean




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 ahh..american arrogance


Excuse me but I am an American, and while I have rightly been accused of
many things most of us aren't arrogant.  You must have a superiority
complex
to be making comments like that to a list of over 800 people.


Chris.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 and Asterisk solution

2005-01-12 Thread Peter Svensson
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005, Matthew Boehm wrote:

 ahh..american arrogance. I assumed you were in the US.
 We pay $2000 a month for DS3/SS7 to national carrier. We will soon be
 dropping the SS7 and turning that voice DS3 into a bandwidth DS3. We will
 still use the carrier but all calls will terminate to them VoIP. It will
 save us over $2000 a month.

Interesting. For us in Sweden it is actually cheaper to connect to our 
carrier through PRIs than through VoIP. We have two fibre pairs instead of 
one, and it is still cheaper. Well, they had six pairs since that is the 
minimum cables they install.

Add to that the lower latency etc of a tdm solution. I guess it is a scale
thing - when lots (most?) companies are connected via isdn technology the
cost goes down.

Peter


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[Asterisk-Users] SS7 and Asterisk solution

2005-01-11 Thread Bartosz Jozwiak
Hello,
We are looking for commercial solution SS7 with Asterisk.
It does not need to be build-in with Asterisk.
Could anybody suggest something?
Thank you in advance.
Bart
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 over Asterisk ?

2004-01-20 Thread Alexandru Coseru
Yes , you are right
All I need is an IP cloud to transport some E1's from an PBX to another...

Regards
Alex
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 Alexandru,

 I think the subject line has a tendency to confuse the issue we're
discussing
 here. At least remove SS7 from it and call it, maybe, TDMoIP, TDMoPW
(it's
 actually a pseudo wire you're looking for, i think). You want to transport
E1
 over an IP cloud, right? You don't want the IP cloud to handle the call
routing,
 only to carry the E1 from one PBX to another. But maybe I misunderstand.
In any
 case, I doubt if you need to deal with SS7. And if you want to do TDMoPW,
I
 doubt that asterisk is designed to handle it, since asterisk handles is
call
 oriented. You already have PBXs to handle the calls; all you need is an IP
could
 (or ATM, or MPLS) to carry E1 pipes. But as I said, maybe i misunderstand.

 -- TT

 Alexandru Coseru wrote:
  Maybe , I never tried TDMoE ...
  Where can I found a documentation or at least a sample for doing that ?
 
  Second , there is a small problem...  Their are not on the same subnet,
but
  this can be fixed(i hope) using tunneling..
 
  Regards
  Alex
 
 
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  From: Nicolas Bougues [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 10:05 AM
  Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 over Asterisk ?
 
 
 
 On Sat, Jan 17, 2004 at 04:34:34PM +0200, Alexandru Coseru wrote:
 
  All I'm trying right now is to get raw data from the E1  (from each
  timeslot) , transmit it to another asterisk server and push it to the
 
  other
 
  E1..
 
 
 Doesn't TDMoE do that (provided that you're on the same subnet) ?
 
 -- 
 Nicolas Bougues
 Axialys Interactive

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 over Asterisk ?

2004-01-20 Thread Alexandru Coseru
Now I understood that I can't use Asterisk for what I'm planning to do..
By using TDMoE , all I get is a new span on the destination server...
But from there , I'm stuck... 

Anyway , thanks
 
Regards
Alex
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 Hi!
 
  Maybe , I never tried TDMoE ...
  Where can I found a documentation or at least a sample for doing that ?
 
 http://www.asteriskdocs.org/current/docs-pdf/hgta.pdf
 page 29
 
 Note that this book is still in pre-alpha state...
 Philipp
 
 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 over Asterisk ?

2004-01-19 Thread Nicolas Bougues
On Sat, Jan 17, 2004 at 04:34:34PM +0200, Alexandru Coseru wrote:
 
  All I'm trying right now is to get raw data from the E1  (from each
  timeslot) , transmit it to another asterisk server and push it to the other
  E1..
 

Doesn't TDMoE do that (provided that you're on the same subnet) ?

-- 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 over Asterisk ?

2004-01-19 Thread Alexandru Coseru
Maybe , I never tried TDMoE ...
Where can I found a documentation or at least a sample for doing that ?

Second , there is a small problem...  Their are not on the same subnet, but
this can be fixed(i hope) using tunneling..

Regards
Alex


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 On Sat, Jan 17, 2004 at 04:34:34PM +0200, Alexandru Coseru wrote:
 
   All I'm trying right now is to get raw data from the E1  (from each
   timeslot) , transmit it to another asterisk server and push it to the
other
   E1..
 

 Doesn't TDMoE do that (provided that you're on the same subnet) ?

 -- 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 over Asterisk ?

2004-01-19 Thread Tom Scott
Alexandru,

I think the subject line has a tendency to confuse the issue we're discussing
here. At least remove SS7 from it and call it, maybe, TDMoIP, TDMoPW (it's
actually a pseudo wire you're looking for, i think). You want to transport E1
over an IP cloud, right? You don't want the IP cloud to handle the call routing,
only to carry the E1 from one PBX to another. But maybe I misunderstand. In any
case, I doubt if you need to deal with SS7. And if you want to do TDMoPW, I
doubt that asterisk is designed to handle it, since asterisk handles is call
oriented. You already have PBXs to handle the calls; all you need is an IP could
(or ATM, or MPLS) to carry E1 pipes. But as I said, maybe i misunderstand.
-- TT

Alexandru Coseru wrote:
Maybe , I never tried TDMoE ...
Where can I found a documentation or at least a sample for doing that ?
Second , there is a small problem...  Their are not on the same subnet, but
this can be fixed(i hope) using tunneling..
Regards
Alex
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 10:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 over Asterisk ?



On Sat, Jan 17, 2004 at 04:34:34PM +0200, Alexandru Coseru wrote:

All I'm trying right now is to get raw data from the E1  (from each
timeslot) , transmit it to another asterisk server and push it to the

other

E1..

Doesn't TDMoE do that (provided that you're on the same subnet) ?

--
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Axialys Interactive
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 over Asterisk ?

2004-01-19 Thread CW_ASN - Gus
See http://www.rad.com/ , TDM-over-IP solutions.


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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 6:56 AM
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 over Asterisk ?


 Maybe , I never tried TDMoE ...
 Where can I found a documentation or at least a sample for doing that ?

 Second , there is a small problem...  Their are not on the same subnet,
but
 this can be fixed(i hope) using tunneling..

 Regards
 Alex


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 From: Nicolas Bougues [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 10:05 AM
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 over Asterisk ?


  On Sat, Jan 17, 2004 at 04:34:34PM +0200, Alexandru Coseru wrote:
  
All I'm trying right now is to get raw data from the E1  (from each
timeslot) , transmit it to another asterisk server and push it to the
 other
E1..
  
 
  Doesn't TDMoE do that (provided that you're on the same subnet) ?
 
  --
  Nicolas Bougues
  Axialys Interactive
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 over Asterisk ?

2004-01-19 Thread Philipp von Klitzing
Hi!

 Maybe , I never tried TDMoE ...
 Where can I found a documentation or at least a sample for doing that ?

http://www.asteriskdocs.org/current/docs-pdf/hgta.pdf
page 29

Note that this book is still in pre-alpha state...
Philipp


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 over Asterisk ?

2004-01-19 Thread Andrew Thompson
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 The funny thing I see is

 http://www.tdmoip.com/Home/0,,5,00.html

 Compairs voip to TDMoIP... very funny.  I use voip and I don't loose any
 PBX features(and I sure as hell don't burn 11kbps) very comical.

 bkw

They've got a lot of interesting texts on tdmoip versus voip on their
website. It's all just sales hype for promoting their MUX products.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 over Asterisk ?

2004-01-19 Thread Tom Scott
Andrew Thompson wrote:
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The funny thing I see is

http://www.tdmoip.com/Home/0,,5,00.html

Compairs voip to TDMoIP... very funny.  I use voip and I don't loose any
PBX features(and I sure as hell don't burn 11kbps) very comical.
bkw


They've got a lot of interesting texts on tdmoip versus voip on their
website. It's all just sales hype for promoting their MUX products.
also see the PWE3 WG docs at IETF:

http://ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-pwe3-tdm-requirements-04.txt
http://ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-anavi-tdmoip-06.txt
no hype there. well, at least not from any particular vendor.

but seriously, is this compatible with asterisk mission? if so, is anyone
working on it?
-- TT

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[Asterisk-Users] SS7 over Asterisk ?

2004-01-17 Thread Alexandru Coseru



Hello..

I have a customer who wants to connect 2 PBX's over 
IP..

The setup should look like this:


[PBX] -- SS7 -- [Asterisk] 
--IAX -- [Asterisk] 
-- SS7 -- [PBX]

Since there are no SS7 cards , I was thinking at a 
way of carrying the E1 data as bulk...Can I do that ? How ?

Is possible a scenario like this ? I'm 
thinking of IAX because I don't want to use H323 or SIP...



Thanks a lot
 Alex


Re: [Asterisk-Users] SS7 over Asterisk ?

2004-01-17 Thread Tom Scott
Alexandru Coseru wrote:
I have a customer who wants to connect 2 PBX's over IP..
 
The setup should look like this:
 
 
[PBX]  -- SS7 --  [Asterisk] --   IAX--  [Asterisk]  --  SS7  
--  [PBX]
If you succeed in doing this, i.e., turning asterisk into a softswitch, you'll 
be quite famous, at least to me and a few others. For background on the IPCC
softswitch and related technologies, you can browse this url:

http://vedatel.com/Isdn/eet290_spring_2004.html

Connecting a VoP (VoIP, VoATM, VoFR, VoMPLS) cloud to the PSTN via SS7 is one
of the great challenges, especially if you want to use open-source software from
asterisk and other projects. There are proprietary solutions, of course, but
I assume you're looking for something more cost effective since you're using
asterisk.
Good luck. and plz post your results if you succeed.

-- TT

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