Re: [Asterisk-Users] So you all think VoIP sypply is warm and fuzzy

2005-07-19 Thread Rich Adamson
 I was waiting for everyone to reply so here is mine.. Check out the Mediatrix 
 web site. There are no downloads or lists of resellers who might have this 
 provisioning software that is normally included with purchase.

I'm not interested in your relationship with voipsupply.

Mediatrix does not offer any end user support; all of their products are
supported _only_ through resellers and the majority of their resellers
are more interested in charging for everything including maintenance
releases of the mediatrix firmware. (Been there, done that, not at all
happy with their support structure which had nothing at all to do with
voipsupply in my case.)

Extensively tested their 1204 fxo box and it was one of the more solid
boxes that I've seen in terms of echo and true voice quality. If they
could clean up their support act (and reduce retail cost a little), 
would seem their products would be far more acceptable to asterisk 
users.

 Has anyone used the 2102? Please let me know.

Would be very interested in reading a good 'eval' of the 2102 however.
 

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] So you all think VoIP sypply is warm and fuzzy

2005-07-19 Thread Robert Goodyear


On Jul 18, 2005, at 3:13 PM, Michael D Schelin wrote:


Here is a letter I sent them for my $150 paper weight.


The forum is not a place to post ransom notes. You've added zero 
benefit to any reader here, nor to yourself, since you didn't actually 
ask a question in your email.


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] So you all think VoIP sypply is warm and fuzzy

2005-07-19 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On Monday 18 July 2005 18:13, Michael D Schelin wrote:
 first time, I'm very disappointed that you have removed the
 configuration CD that should have been shipped with the Mediatrix 2102
 just to get a few more bucks. I have contacted mediatrix and they have
 informed me that the CD's is shipped in every 2102.  If I don't here

Wow, someone needs to grow up.

Do you perhaps think that maybe CDs sometimes don't get included from the 
manufacturer?  If VoipSupply wanted a CD from Mediatrix they could very 
likely take the one out of yours (or anyone else's) box, clone it and put the 
original back.  Do you honestly think the $0.30 is gonna break the bank for 
them?

Good lord, step out of the cubicle and get a breath of fresh air once in a 
while.  If you ordered a dozen and none of them had them then I'd think you 
might have a case...  but one instance and you throw this temper tantrum?   
Get over yourself, you're not some little princess.

-A.

... who has never bought ANYTHING from voipsupply and has never dealt with 
them but can't stand the prissy little egos that haunt this list from time to 
time.  These types of people are precisely the ones who make the world a 
darker place.
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] So you all think VoIP sypply is warm and fuzzy

2005-07-19 Thread Wiley Siler








Right, so before resolution can be
attempted or had, you lash out on the forum.

If they had told you to stuff it or had
just ignored you, you might have something to complain about.

You are pissed that the ATA is not web
configurable? How in the hell is that VoipSupplys fault? You bought
it!

You specifically set out to bash
VoipSupply with your comments, most of which seem ill informed and a couple
just asinine.



I personally hope no one answers your
questions. Your complaint was hardly to hear from others about VoipSupply.

That could have been accomplished with a
simple Google search of the list archive.

As it is, this is just really unnecessary
and testament to your lack of patience.



So take a valium and let the vendor try
and fix the problem. Then tell your story here.



W























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you all think VoIP sypply is warm and fuzzy





I was waiting for everyone to reply so here is mine..
Check out the Mediatrix web site. There are no downloads or lists of resellers
who might have this provisioning software that is normally included with purchase.
You may be right that it is a refurb but every indication points that it is
not. I have contacted both companies and I'm waiting for replys. I'm on
the west coast and it took over 7 days to get here. I am a little pissed when
all other ATA's are configurable from their built in web server. And Yes, I'm
self serving as well as mostly everybody I've ran into in this business.
This unit was purchased for testing. Because of the timezone problem, When I
get the product from UPS it's too late to call Canada or FL. when all I need is a
simple download to correct the problem. Is it too much to expect
everything in the box when you purchase it? Or have a web site with these free
included software so if this happens we don't wast our valuable time. By the
way I did get an email from VOip Supply asking me to wait until morning so they
could find the software. This is at 2:30 PST. This complaint was to
hear from others about VoIP Supply and their business practices. I wanted to
get feedback ether way, or maybe a contact name so I can get this paper weight
working and tested. Has anyone used the 2102? Please let me know. 

Michael D. Schelin
Shelltel



JD Austin wrote:





Michael D Schelin wrote: 

Here is a letter I sent them for my $150 paper weight.


Dear Voipsupply, As a small service provider, using you company for the first
time, I'm very disappointed that you have removed the configuration CD that
should have been shipped with the Mediatrix 2102 just to get a few more bucks.
I have contacted mediatrix and they have informed me that the CD's is shipped
in every 2102. If I don't here back from you shortly and receive the
configuration program that should have shipped, I will return it back to you
for a full refund and express my views to the Voip community. As of now I've
herd of nothing but good things about your customer support. I've called and
left messages to your support team. I waited 7 days for this unit and have no
way to configure it. Email me the CD. 

Michael D. Schelin 
Owner 
Shelltel 

Are you sure you didn't buy a refurbished model?

I hear they sell a lot of refurbished equiptment, I've purchased some of
it myself. 
Everything I've purchased from them worked without issue. None however came
with an installation CD. 
A few things had to be reset to clear settings though.
Anything I needed was freely available.
Since you know how to contact Medatrix, perhaps you can download the software
or get a CD from them.

JD



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Re: [Asterisk-Users] So you all think VoIP sypply is warm and fuzzy

2005-07-19 Thread Stewart Nelson
 I am a little pissed when
 all other ATA's are configurable from their built in web server.

The 2102 does have a built in Web server.
See manuals at support.bctgroup.ru/mediatrix/2102/
If you have a refurbished unit, perhaps the web server was disabled,
or the password was changed.  Try reset to factory settings.

It is possible to disable the factory reset, and conceivable that
the previous owner did that.  However, if he did, the SNMP community
string was probably also changed, and the CD that you are complaining
about wouldn't do you any good.

--Stewart

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] So you all think VoIP sypply is warm and fuzzy

2005-07-19 Thread Derek Whitten




from the bottom of http://www.voipsupply.com/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=16products_id=334

...
With the Mediatrix 2102, service providers get the product characteristics allowing them to successfully deploy residential IP telephony applications. The Mediatrix 2102 provides a web interface, giving users a convenient access to the unit for initial set-up. The Mediatrix 2102 can auto-provision by fetching its encrypted configuration file from a TFTP or HTTP server making installation transparent to end-users. To further facilitate deployments, factory loaded configurations are possible. Automatic firmware and configuration file downloads ensure that the 2102 is always up-to-date.



is there a web server actually on that thing ?



On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 17:06, Michael D Schelin wrote:

I was waiting for everyone to reply so here is mine.. Check out the Mediatrix web site. There are no downloads or lists of resellers who might have this provisioning software that is normally included with purchase. You may be right that it is a refurb but every indication points that it is not. I have contacted both companies and I'm waiting for replys. I'm on the west coast and it took over 7 days to get here. I am a little pissed when all other ATA's are configurable from their built in web server. And Yes, I'm self serving as well as mostly everybody I've ran into in this business. This unit was purchased for testing. Because of the timezone problem, When I get the product from UPS it's too late to call Canada or FL. when all I need is a simple download to correct the problem. Is it too much to expect everything in the box when you purchase it? Or have a web site with these free included software so if this happens we don't wast our valuable time. By the way I did get an email from VOip Supply asking me to wait until morning so they could find the software. This is at 2:30 PST. This complaint was to hear from others about VoIP Supply and their business practices. I wanted to get feedback ether way, or maybe a contact name so I can get this paper weight working and tested. Has anyone used the 2102? Please let me know. 

Michael D. Schelin
Shelltel



JD Austin wrote:


Michael D Schelin wrote: 

Here is a letter I sent them for my $150 paper weight. 

Dear Voipsupply, As a small service provider, using you company for the first time, I'm very disappointed that you have removed the configuration CD that should have been shipped with the Mediatrix 2102 just to get a few more bucks. I have contacted mediatrix and they have informed me that the CD's is shipped in every 2102. If I don't here back from you shortly and receive the configuration program that should have shipped, I will return it back to you for a full refund and express my views to the Voip community. As of now I've herd of nothing but good things about your customer support. I've called and left messages to your support team. I waited 7 days for this unit and have no way to configure it. Email me the CD. 

Michael D. Schelin 
Owner 
Shelltel 

Are you sure you didn't buy a refurbished model? 
I hear they sell a lot of refurbished equiptment, I've purchased some of it myself. 
Everything I've purchased from them worked without issue. None however came with an installation CD. 
A few things had to be reset to clear settings though.
Anything I needed was freely available.
Since you know how to contact Medatrix, perhaps you can download the software or get a CD from them.

JD
-- 
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Twin Geckos Technology Services LLC
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.twingeckos.com
phone/fax: 480.288.8195 



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Re: [Asterisk-Users] So you all think VoIP sypply is warm and fuzzy

2005-07-19 Thread Stewart Nelson
The 2102 does have a built in Web server.

If you have a refurbished unit, perhaps the web server was disabled,
or the password was changed.  Try reset to factory settings.

It is possible to disable the factory reset, and conceivable that
the previous owner did that.  However, if he did, the SNMP community
string was probably also changed, and the CD that you are complaining
about wouldn't do you any good.

What happens when you try to access the unit?  Can you at least ping it?

--Stewart

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[Asterisk-Users] So you all think VoIP sypply is warm and fuzzy

2005-07-18 Thread Michael D Schelin

Here is a letter I sent them for my $150 paper weight.

Dear Voipsupply, As a small service provider, using you company for the 
first time, I'm very disappointed that you have removed the 
configuration CD that should have been shipped with the Mediatrix 2102 
just to get a few more bucks. I have contacted mediatrix and they have 
informed me that the CD's is shipped in every 2102.  If I don't here 
back from you shortly and receive the configuration program that should 
have shipped, I will return it back to you for a full refund and express 
my views to the Voip community. As of now I've herd of nothing but good 
things about your customer support. I've called and left messages to 
your support team. I waited 7 days for this unit and have no way to 
configure it.  Email me the CD.


Michael D. Schelin
Owner
Shelltel
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] So you all think VoIP sypply is warm and fuzzy

2005-07-18 Thread JD Austin






Michael D Schelin wrote:
Here is
a letter I sent them for my $150 paper weight.
  
  
Dear Voipsupply, As a small service provider, using you company for the
first time, I'm very disappointed that you have removed the
configuration CD that should have been shipped with the Mediatrix 2102
just to get a few more bucks. I have contacted mediatrix and they have
informed me that the CD's is shipped in every 2102. If I don't here
back from you shortly and receive the configuration program that should
have shipped, I will return it back to you for a full refund and
express my views to the Voip community. As of now I've herd of nothing
but good things about your customer support. I've called and left
messages to your support team. I waited 7 days for this unit and have
no way to configure it. Email me the CD.
  
  
Michael D. Schelin
  
Owner
  
Shelltel
  

Are you sure you didn't buy a refurbished model? 
I hear they sell a lot of refurbished equiptment, I've
purchased some of it myself. 
Everything I've purchased from them worked without issue. None however
came with an installation CD. 
A few things had to be reset to clear settings though.
Anything I needed was freely available.
Since you know how to contact Medatrix, perhaps you can download the
software or get a CD from them.

JD
-- 
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Twin Geckos Technology Services LLC
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.twingeckos.com
phone/fax: 480.288.8195 


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] So you all think VoIP sypply is warm and fuzzy

2005-07-18 Thread Brian Capouch

Michael D Schelin wrote:

Here is a letter I sent them for my $150 paper weight.



I don't know that anyone thinks they're all warm and fuzzy.

I know that it instantly raises all kinds of suspicions about people's 
motives when a mail like this comes in to the group, particularly when 
you seem to be attacking list members already in your subject line.


There are two sides to every story.  We now have one of them.

I'm not positive that a vituperative letter like this sent to the list 
unsolicited is going to win you a lot of support in your crusade.


Time will tell, I guess.  There are already a number of red flags in my 
mind wrt Shelltel because you have so often sent self-promoting mails to 
this list when people ask about a good ITSP.


B.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] So you all think VoIP sypply is warm and fuzzy

2005-07-18 Thread Lists
On Monday 18 July 2005 18:13, Michael D Schelin wrote:
 Here is a letter I sent them for my $150 paper weight.

 Dear Voipsupply, As a small service provider, using you company for the
 first time, I'm very disappointed that you have removed the
 configuration CD that should have been shipped with the Mediatrix 2102
 just to get a few more bucks. I have contacted mediatrix and they have
 informed me that the CD's is shipped in every 2102.  If I don't here
 back from you shortly and receive the configuration program that should
 have shipped, I will return it back to you for a full refund and express
 my views to the Voip community. As of now I've herd of nothing but good
 things about your customer support. I've called and left messages to
 your support team. I waited 7 days for this unit and have no way to
 configure it.  Email me the CD.

 Michael D. Schelin
 Owner
 Shelltel

Mistakes do occur, it's what people do after the mistakes which is important. 
Looking forward to see the outcome.

-- 

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Network Voice Comunications, Inc.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] So you all think VoIP sypply is warm and fuzzy

2005-07-18 Thread trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com
On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 17:38 -0500, Brian Capouch wrote:
 I'm not positive that a vituperative letter like this sent to the list 
 unsolicited is going to win you a lot of support in your crusade.
 
given that he said he would only do this if they didnt give him the CD
(or strongly implied it anyway) that makes me curious as to why it was
sent before any resolution could be had.  Its one thing to try to
resolve issues with the vendor but to publicly try to attack them in a
forum where its unlikely they will respond (based on historical posts
about them and their lack of comments from the company themselves) but
pretending to give them a chance to make it right ...  I dunno.


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] So you all think VoIP sypply is warm and fuzzy

2005-07-18 Thread Michael D Schelin






I was waiting for everyone to reply so here is mine.. Check out the
Mediatrix web site. There are no downloads or lists of resellers who
might have this provisioning software that is normally included with
purchase. You may be right that it is a refurb but every indication
points that it is not. I have contacted both companies and I'm waiting
for replys. I'm on the west coast and it took over 7 days to get here.
I am a little pissed when all other ATA's are configurable from their
built in web server. And Yes, I'm self serving as well as mostly
everybody I've ran into in this business. This unit was purchased for
testing. Because of the timezone problem, When I get the product from
UPS it's too late to call Canada or FL. when all I need is a simple
download to correct the problem. Is it too much to expect everything
in the box when you purchase it? Or have a web site with these free
included software so if this happens we don't wast our valuable time.
By the way I did get an email from VOip Supply asking me to wait until
morning so they could find the software. This is at 2:30 PST. This
complaint was to hear from others about VoIP Supply and
their business practices. I wanted to get feedback ether way, or maybe
a contact name so I can get this paper weight working and tested. Has
anyone used the 2102? Please let me know. 

Michael D. Schelin
Shelltel



JD Austin wrote:

  
  
  
Michael D Schelin wrote:
  Here
is
a letter I sent them for my $150 paper weight. 

Dear Voipsupply, As a small service provider, using you company for the
first time, I'm very disappointed that you have removed the
configuration CD that should have been shipped with the Mediatrix 2102
just to get a few more bucks. I have contacted mediatrix and they have
informed me that the CD's is shipped in every 2102. If I don't here
back from you shortly and receive the configuration program that should
have shipped, I will return it back to you for a full refund and
express my views to the Voip community. As of now I've herd of nothing
but good things about your customer support. I've called and left
messages to your support team. I waited 7 days for this unit and have
no way to configure it. Email me the CD. 

Michael D. Schelin 
Owner 
Shelltel 
  
Are you sure you didn't buy a refurbished model? 
I hear they sell a lot of refurbished equiptment, I've
purchased some of it myself. 
Everything I've purchased from them worked without issue. None however
came with an installation CD. 
A few things had to be reset to clear settings though.
Anything I needed was freely available.
Since you know how to contact Medatrix, perhaps you can download the
software or get a CD from them.
  
JD
  -- 
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Twin Geckos Technology Services LLC
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.twingeckos.com
phone/fax: 480.288.8195 
  
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] So you all think VoIP sypply is warm and fuzzy

2005-07-18 Thread Garrett Smith
All:

First I would like to apologize to all of the list members for having to be
subjected to this. This is not the forum that we would like to use to solve
customer problems. We are here to help and contribute to this community and
do not wish to add clutter to this list.

Mr. Schelin et al:

The Mediatrix 2102 is a carrier grade gateway that *should be plug and
play*. When I contacted Mediatrix distribution, they stated that this unit
DOES NOT ship to VoIPSupply.com with a configuration CD and that it *should
be plug and play*. If it does not ship to us with a CD, then we do not ship
it to the customer with a CD. I will be contacting Mediatrix tomorrow about
this, and will update everyone when I get an answer.

I did manage to receive the configuration manuals for this device. I did not
see any mention within them of a configuration CD. I have forwarded this
information to you, off of the forum. These manuals should be enough to get
this unit configured.

For future reference, if any of you need customer service, then speak with
customer service. They are available from 8am until 7pm est. Technical
support is not customer service. Tech support will not respond to you unless
you have purchased a support contract, or have been directed to them by a
sales executive, or a customer service representative. 

Again if you have a problem with your order, first contact your sales rep.
He should be able to fix the problem, or point you in the direction of the
individual that can. If you ordered online, call 800.398.voip. Speak with
one of our customer service reps, or inbound sales executives. They will be
able to fix your problem, or point you in the direction of someone who will
be able to correct the problem.

If all of this has proven to be unsuccessful (within reason) then contact me
directly, and I will try my best to fix the problem. My details are found
below and the extended version can easily be found by searching the list
archives.

It is our goal at VoIPSupply.com to continue to offer the best prices,
customer service, and technical support. We again thank the community for
their business and support!

Thanks,

GS


P.S. You spelled supply wrong in the header. 

Garrett Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
716-250-3408 Direct
716-903-9495 Cell


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael D
Schelin
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 6:14 PM
To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] So you all think VoIP sypply is warm and fuzzy

Here is a letter I sent them for my $150 paper weight.

Dear Voipsupply, As a small service provider, using you company for the 
first time, I'm very disappointed that you have removed the 
configuration CD that should have been shipped with the Mediatrix 2102 
just to get a few more bucks. I have contacted mediatrix and they have 
informed me that the CD's is shipped in every 2102.  If I don't here 
back from you shortly and receive the configuration program that should 
have shipped, I will return it back to you for a full refund and express 
my views to the Voip community. As of now I've herd of nothing but good 
things about your customer support. I've called and left messages to 
your support team. I waited 7 days for this unit and have no way to 
configure it.  Email me the CD.

Michael D. Schelin
Owner
Shelltel
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] So you all think VoIP sypply is warm and fuzzy

2005-07-18 Thread C F
On 7/18/05, Michael D Schelin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I was waiting for everyone to reply so here is mine.. Check out the
 Mediatrix web site. There are no downloads or lists of resellers who might
 have this provisioning software that is normally included with purchase. 
 You may be right that it is a refurb but every indication points that it is
 not.  I have contacted both companies and I'm waiting for replys. I'm on the
 west coast and it took over 7 days to get here. I am a little pissed when
 all other ATA's are configurable from their built in web server. And Yes,
 I'm self serving as well as mostly everybody I've ran into in this business.
  This unit was purchased for testing. Because of the timezone problem, When
 I get the product from UPS it's too late to call Canada or FL. when all I
 need is a simple download to correct the problem.  Is it too much to expect
 everything in the box when you purchase it? Or have a web site with these
 free included software so if this happens we don't wast our valuable time. 
 By the way I did get an email from VOip Supply asking me to wait until
 morning so they could find the software.  This is at 2:30 PST.  This
 complaint was to hear from others about VoIP Supply and their business
 practices. I wanted to get feedback ether way, or maybe a contact name so I

If all you wanted was feedback about voipsupply, then you should have
checked the archives first.

 can get this paper weight working and tested.  Has anyone used the 2102?
 Please let me know. 
  
  Michael D. Schelin
  Shelltel
  
  
  
  JD Austin wrote:
  
  
  
  Michael D Schelin wrote: 
 Here is a letter I sent them for my $150 paper weight. 
  
  Dear Voipsupply, As a small service provider, using you company for the
 first time, I'm very disappointed that you have removed the configuration CD
 that should have been shipped with the Mediatrix 2102 just to get a few more
 bucks. I have contacted mediatrix and they have informed me that the CD's is
 shipped in every 2102.  If I don't here back from you shortly and receive
 the configuration program that should have shipped, I will return it back to
 you for a full refund and express my views to the Voip community. As of now
 I've herd of nothing but good things about your customer support. I've
 called and left messages to your support team. I waited 7 days for this unit
 and have no way to configure it.  Email me the CD. 
  
  Michael D. Schelin 
  Owner 
  Shelltel 
  Are you sure you didn't buy a refurbished model?  
  I hear they sell a lot of refurbished equiptment, I've purchased some of it
 myself.  
  Everything I've purchased from them worked without issue. None however came
 with an installation CD.  
  A few things had to be reset to clear settings though.
  Anything I needed was freely available.
  Since you know how to contact Medatrix, perhaps you can download the
 software or get a CD from them.
  
  JD
  -- 
 JD Austin
 Twin Geckos Technology Services LLC
 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.twingeckos.com
 phone/fax: 480.288.8195 
  
 
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