RE: [Asterisk-Users] Telephone line installation.
It depends on whether Sprint is the local exchange carrier. If they are, they will install the inside wiring and jacks (probably for a price). If you don't ask, they probably will not install them. It really is phone company dependent; some do, some don't, and some charge if its part of the installation order. Thanks but I am pretty sure they won't do it. So there has to be a better way. -Original Message- From: C F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 6:21 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Telephone line installation. They should have the answer: http://local.sprint.com/home/local/contact/contact_information.html On 4/13/05, Manjit Riat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are going to be doing an asterisk install with 5-7 lines. So we are looking to get two TDM04B cards. Now I believe when you get your telco(Sprint, etc.) to install the lines they basically just leave the wires without jacks. Am I right? If so, then can we ask them to install the jacks or would we have to do them ourselves? ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ---End of Original Message- ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Telephone line installation.
Thanx that was very much appreciated. Who is doing the hunting on your main phone number? Or do you not have a main phone number in this install? I guess hunting is only done by the telco right? (or are there any other options to that) -Original Message- From: Gregory Junker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 7:34 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Telephone line installation. Their repsonsibility ends at the demarc. In a house this is the box where either exists an RJ11 phone jack, or a pair of screw terminals. If you have multiple lines coming into a business, you probably will have a 66- or 110-style punchdown block where they terminate their lines (in some cases they might just hand you a multipair cable and wish you luck), and you can connect whatever you want to your side of the block. The tool for 66 and 110 blocks is very inexpensive and available at any Home Depot in the electrical aisle (data/telecom section), as are the RJ11 telephone jacks and wallplates you might need (or the RJ11 plugs and crimp tool, both also available at Home Depot). Total cost for the tools and materials for 6-7 lines (assuming mounting the lines near the punch block): about $40 (you don't need the top-of-the-line contractors' versions of the tools to do just a few of these). Or, you can pay some guy in a hardhat about $80/hour plus/including whatever minimum charge they have for internal wiring, and then about 120% markup on the parts, something they would be very happy to charge you for. ;) Another option is a fractional T1 and just voice channels (in my area, with TWTC, monthly it's about $38/channel plus $80 for the local loop, which for 6-7 business lines might actually be cheaper than 6-7 POTS business lines), and a single T100P card...and you don't get the myriad problems reported on this list involving the TDM cards. Who is doing the hunting on your main phone number? Or do you not have a main phone number in this install? Greg Manjit Riat wrote: We are going to be doing an asterisk install with 5-7 lines. So we are looking to get two TDM04B cards. Now I believe when you get your telco(Sprint, etc.) to install the lines they basically just leave the wires without jacks. Am I right? If so, then can we ask them to install the jacks or would we have to do them ourselves? ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Telephone line installation.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 13 April 2005 06:13 pm, Manjit Riat wrote: We are going to be doing an asterisk install with 5-7 lines. So we are looking to get two TDM04B cards. Now I believe when you get your telco(Sprint, etc.) to install the lines they basically just leave the wires without jacks. Am I right? If so, then can we ask them to install the jacks or would we have to do them ourselves? The telco usually sets it up to the demarc point (the little white board where all the wires run into; also called a bix board, or a punch down board). After that point, you usually get an interconnect company to come in to run the wires from demarc to jacks in the office. Interconnect companies will usually do both telephone line runs and data runs (ethernet). References: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demarc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCXrsCgYKvkeyp3F4RApW0AJ9JjAvt2nuX0ESlQWAdsIA5SX4DogCggDpk Qe2HnnjyzJD2+uajRenQC1s= =0dt4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Telephone line installation.
Of course, you can have the telco put on rj-11 jacks and just run them to the tdm. Plus consider an analog fxs port for fax, etc. Greg -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel Bruce Lynes Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 2:49 PM To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Telephone line installation. -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 13 April 2005 06:13 pm, Manjit Riat wrote: We are going to be doing an asterisk install with 5-7 lines. So we are looking to get two TDM04B cards. Now I believe when you get your telco(Sprint, etc.) to install the lines they basically just leave the wires without jacks. Am I right? If so, then can we ask them to install the jacks or would we have to do them ourselves? The telco usually sets it up to the demarc point (the little white board where all the wires run into; also called a bix board, or a punch down board). After that point, you usually get an interconnect company to come in to run the wires from demarc to jacks in the office. Interconnect companies will usually do both telephone line runs and data runs (ethernet). References: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demarc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCXrsCgYKvkeyp3F4RApW0AJ9JjAvt2nuX0ESlQWAdsIA5SX4DogCggDpk Qe2HnnjyzJD2+uajRenQC1s= =0dt4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Telephone line installation.
Since you are not setting up an actual PBX in the true sense of the term, the hunting has to be done by the telco if you want to take more than one call at a time on the same number. Cincinnati Bell here locally calls their standard SMB phone service Centrex; Sprint would probably call theirs something else. Greg Manjit Riat wrote: Who is doing the hunting on your main phone number? Or do you not have a main phone number in this install? I guess hunting is only done by the telco right? (or are there any other options to that) ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] Telephone line installation.
We are going to be doing an asterisk install with 5-7 lines. So we are looking to get two TDM04B cards. Now I believe when you get your telco(Sprint, etc.) to install the lines they basically just leave the wires without jacks. Am I right? If so, then can we ask them to install the jacks or would we have to do them ourselves? ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Telephone line installation.
They should have the answer: http://local.sprint.com/home/local/contact/contact_information.html On 4/13/05, Manjit Riat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are going to be doing an asterisk install with 5-7 lines. So we are looking to get two TDM04B cards. Now I believe when you get your telco(Sprint, etc.) to install the lines they basically just leave the wires without jacks. Am I right? If so, then can we ask them to install the jacks or would we have to do them ourselves? ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Telephone line installation.
Thanks but I am pretty sure they won't do it. So there has to be a better way. -Original Message- From: C F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 6:21 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Telephone line installation. They should have the answer: http://local.sprint.com/home/local/contact/contact_information.html On 4/13/05, Manjit Riat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are going to be doing an asterisk install with 5-7 lines. So we are looking to get two TDM04B cards. Now I believe when you get your telco(Sprint, etc.) to install the lines they basically just leave the wires without jacks. Am I right? If so, then can we ask them to install the jacks or would we have to do them ourselves? ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Telephone line installation.
Manjit- I'm not sure what country you are in, but if you're in the USA, the telephone company will typically bring the connections to what they call the demarcation point. This is usually a punch-down block in the telephone closet for your building. They will usually offer to wire up telephone jacks wherever you want (called inside wiring), but usually at quite a high hourly rate. Regards Scott Stingel www.evtmedia.com Manjit Riat wrote: Thanks but I am pretty sure they won't do it. So there has to be a better way. -Original Message- From: C F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 6:21 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Telephone line installation. They should have the answer: http://local.sprint.com/home/local/contact/contact_information.html On 4/13/05, Manjit Riat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are going to be doing an asterisk install with 5-7 lines. So we are looking to get two TDM04B cards. Now I believe when you get your telco(Sprint, etc.) to install the lines they basically just leave the wires without jacks. Am I right? If so, then can we ask them to install the jacks or would we have to do them ourselves? ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users . ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Telephone line installation.
Their repsonsibility ends at the demarc. In a house this is the box where either exists an RJ11 phone jack, or a pair of screw terminals. If you have multiple lines coming into a business, you probably will have a 66- or 110-style punchdown block where they terminate their lines (in some cases they might just hand you a multipair cable and wish you luck), and you can connect whatever you want to your side of the block. The tool for 66 and 110 blocks is very inexpensive and available at any Home Depot in the electrical aisle (data/telecom section), as are the RJ11 telephone jacks and wallplates you might need (or the RJ11 plugs and crimp tool, both also available at Home Depot). Total cost for the tools and materials for 6-7 lines (assuming mounting the lines near the punch block): about $40 (you don't need the top-of-the-line contractors' versions of the tools to do just a few of these). Or, you can pay some guy in a hardhat about $80/hour plus/including whatever minimum charge they have for internal wiring, and then about 120% markup on the parts, something they would be very happy to charge you for. ;) Another option is a fractional T1 and just voice channels (in my area, with TWTC, monthly it's about $38/channel plus $80 for the local loop, which for 6-7 business lines might actually be cheaper than 6-7 POTS business lines), and a single T100P card...and you don't get the myriad problems reported on this list involving the TDM cards. Who is doing the hunting on your main phone number? Or do you not have a main phone number in this install? Greg Manjit Riat wrote: We are going to be doing an asterisk install with 5-7 lines. So we are looking to get two TDM04B cards. Now I believe when you get your telco(Sprint, etc.) to install the lines they basically just leave the wires without jacks. Am I right? If so, then can we ask them to install the jacks or would we have to do them ourselves? ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Telephone line installation.
Every time I've ever dealt with a Telco, the rule has been that they will install it to the "demarc" - the point of demarcation between telco's responsibility and yours. Depending on where the demarc for your building is, they may or may not install jacks - for example, if the demarc is outside, they probably won't, but if they're inside in a protected area, they probably wouldinstall jacks if you requested it. Even so, the telco makes lots of money off of installations, so they will always be happy to install the jacks wherever you want, at your expense. Typically it's part of the overall installation charge, billed in 1/4 hour increments, with a minimum of something like 1 hour. When you call to order the lines, they'll probably ask if you want them to install the jacks. Then they'll make even more money if they cansell you the inside wire maintenance plan... Brian Leyton IT Manager Commercial Petroleum Equipment -Original Message-From: Manjit Riat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 6:13 PMTo: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Telephone line installation. We are going to be doing an asterisk install with 5-7 lines. So we are looking to get two TDM04B cards. Now I believe when you get your telco(Sprint, etc.) to install the lines they basically just leave the wires without jacks. Am I right? If so, then can we ask them to install the jacks or would we have to do them ourselves? ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
