Re: [Asterisk-Users] What is the best Dell Machine for Asterisk?
Zoa ha scritto: Something is using up way too much memory, are you sure asterisk is using 800mb of ram ? it should be ten times less. Zoa You're right, I forgot there are also huge mysql tables on the same machine (with no agi and transcoding) 80 alaw concurrent calls , cdr_mysql, terminating on one TE410 Mem: 3105772k total, 733928k used, 2371844k free,8k buffers Cpu(s): 5.0% user, 5.5% system, 0.0% nice, 89.5% idle load average: 0.37, 0.39, 0.41 So that is ~80 calls per GB of ram which is 20% of 400 users so that should be 5 or 6GB to handle 100% usage. The load avg is the most important here. You want to keep it under 1.00 or you have processes waiting which increases jitter. Your system will be at 80% usage with 160 calls, assuming linear scaling. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] What is the best Dell Machine for Asterisk?
Kerry Garrison wrote: The SC430 will experience unusable call quality with a TDM400P due to IRQ Sharing problems. If you have some magic to get around this, please share because everyone I know that has tried using an SC430 has given up and switched to other platforms. -Kerry I experience call quality issues (clicks/stutters) with my SC430 as well. I am booting with: kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.11.11 root=/dev/md0 ro acpi=off noapic server1:~# cat /proc/interrupts CPU0 0: 1922293175 XT-PIC timer 2: 0 XT-PIC cascade 4: 1921907054 XT-PIC wcte11xp 10:3553554 XT-PIC libata 11: 22924955 XT-PIC eth0 14: 12 XT-PIC ide0 NMI: 0 LOC: 1922424210 ERR: 0 MIS: 0 server1:/usr/src/zaptel# ./zttest -v --- Results after 200 passes --- Best: 100.00 -- Worst: 99.987793 (hit this number 9 times out of 200 the rest were all 100%) I am about to switch platforms if I can't figure this out. I've been playing around with so many settings over the last 3 months that I feel I've tried everything. Thanks, Geoff ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] What is the best Dell Machine for Asterisk?
Mike Fedyk ha scritto: Hiu Yen Onn wrote: How big of RAM for Asterisk server? My production environment will be about 400 users in the office. In one server? 4GB. And more if you can. I'd suggest you use several servers for 400 users unless the percentage of active phones is ~10%. Mike (with no agi and transcoding) 80 alaw concurrent calls , cdr_mysql, terminating on one TE410 Mem: 3105772k total, 733928k used, 2371844k free,8k buffers Cpu(s): 5.0% user, 5.5% system, 0.0% nice, 89.5% idle load average: 0.37, 0.39, 0.41 ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] What is the best Dell Machine for Asterisk?
Simone Cittadini wrote: Mike Fedyk ha scritto: Hiu Yen Onn wrote: How big of RAM for Asterisk server? My production environment will be about 400 users in the office. In one server? 4GB. And more if you can. I'd suggest you use several servers for 400 users unless the percentage of active phones is ~10%. Mike (with no agi and transcoding) 80 alaw concurrent calls , cdr_mysql, terminating on one TE410 Mem: 3105772k total, 733928k used, 2371844k free,8k buffers Cpu(s): 5.0% user, 5.5% system, 0.0% nice, 89.5% idle load average: 0.37, 0.39, 0.41 So that is ~80 calls per GB of ram which is 20% of 400 users so that should be 5 or 6GB to handle 100% usage. The load avg is the most important here. You want to keep it under 1.00 or you have processes waiting which increases jitter. Your system will be at 80% usage with 160 calls, assuming linear scaling. What are the specs for processor, memory and chipset that you pulled this stat from? ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] What is the best Dell Machine for Asterisk?
Something is using up way too much memory, are you sure asterisk is using 800mb of ram ? it should be ten times less. Zoa Mike Fedyk wrote: Simone Cittadini wrote: Mike Fedyk ha scritto: Hiu Yen Onn wrote: How big of RAM for Asterisk server? My production environment will be about 400 users in the office. In one server? 4GB. And more if you can. I'd suggest you use several servers for 400 users unless the percentage of active phones is ~10%. Mike (with no agi and transcoding) 80 alaw concurrent calls , cdr_mysql, terminating on one TE410 Mem: 3105772k total, 733928k used, 2371844k free,8k buffers Cpu(s): 5.0% user, 5.5% system, 0.0% nice, 89.5% idle load average: 0.37, 0.39, 0.41 So that is ~80 calls per GB of ram which is 20% of 400 users so that should be 5 or 6GB to handle 100% usage. The load avg is the most important here. You want to keep it under 1.00 or you have processes waiting which increases jitter. Your system will be at 80% usage with 160 calls, assuming linear scaling. What are the specs for processor, memory and chipset that you pulled this stat from? ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] What is the best Dell Machine for Asterisk?
That mem line didn't show the amount of memory cached, which is subtracted from used memory to get an approximate count of application memory. It is more complicated to get an exact count since part of that cached memory is mmapped executable code and data. Not to mention shared memory because of libraries and other details. You're right, asterisk isn't using that much memory and I didn't think about that enough. Sorry, today is a sick day for me. Mike Zoa wrote: Something is using up way too much memory, are you sure asterisk is using 800mb of ram ? it should be ten times less. Zoa Mike Fedyk wrote: Simone Cittadini wrote: (with no agi and transcoding) 80 alaw concurrent calls , cdr_mysql, terminating on one TE410 Mem: 3105772k total, 733928k used, 2371844k free,8k buffers Cpu(s): 5.0% user, 5.5% system, 0.0% nice, 89.5% idle load average: 0.37, 0.39, 0.41 ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] What is the best Dell Machine for Asterisk?
Hiu Yen Onn wrote: How big of RAM for Asterisk server? My production environment will be about 400 users in the office. In one server? 4GB. And more if you can. I'd suggest you use several servers for 400 users unless the percentage of active phones is ~10%. Mike ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] What is the best Dell Machine for Asterisk?
On 29 Dec 2005, at 01:02, William Boehlke wrote: The 830s are nice but limited because they do RAID on a card and have but one suitable PCI slot. So you can have an interface card or RAID, but not both. That's not true. I just built a system on a Dell 830 with the RAID card. There are three PCI slots in total and one of them fit the Eicon DIVA Server card I'm using. I've been using Dell rackmounts at work for years now and never had any issues. This is the first time I went for a tower server, there is no rack at home... The box isn't entirely noise-free, but compared to the equivalent rackmount models it is very quiet, you could call it pantry-friendly as opposed to living room-friendly. The machine runs CentOS 4.2 (RHEL 4.2 with the VIN numbers scraped off) and Asterisk 1.2.1 with chan_capi. Granted, I'm not a heavy user, but I like the voice quality I'm getting. jens ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] What is the best Dell Machine for Asterisk?
i could not recommend dell more. and also to say, there is loads of support for 2.4 and 2.6 kernels for most if not all of there hardware. "times are a changing!" the best bang for buck(only a few months ago) is the poweredge sc430..(extremely quiet, without a load) works perfectly, everything! with regard to irq problems, you will get that with any machine/hardware. not just dell. when i build or commission a new server, i always run hardware tests. like ram, hard drive, processor and motherboard. checking motherboard for interrupt conflicts etc.(with all cards installed) the best all round tool for this is the UBCD. universal boot cd ( goggle ) there are a few versions, ie. a small(about 35meg) and a large one( abit over 100meg)...for memory. i have a lot of dell machines, including some very old ones.. that still go hard... the engineering in these machines is the reason why i use them. i have pulled a lot of machines/servers apart, and there one of the best.. there my bit! hope it helps... Phil William Boehlke wrote: We have more than a hundred Dell servers in production at customers. We use them because we can have them serviced easily, just about anywhere. They are principally 1850s and 2850s, or their predecessors, in T1 and larger applications. The reported IRQ problems are easily avoided if, for example, you don't use more than one card in a server or, better yet, don't use cards at all. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of C F Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 5:22 PM To: Walt Reed; Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] What is the best Dell Machine for Asterisk? Last time I checked Dell does support Linux. http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=uscs=04kc=6W300l=en oc=pe2850-maxs=bsd Scroll down to the OS chose and you'll see out of 26 choices only 4 are M$, the rest minus one are for a total of 21 linux choices. On 12/19/05, Walt Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why oh why would you want to install *, which runs on Linux, on a machine made by a company that does NOT support Linux? Both IBM and HP do a pretty good job of supporting Linux. So do other Linux oriented companies like PenguinComputing.com Digium cards have historically been a little finicky in regards to which machines they work in, but Sangoma cards should work in virtually any modern machine that has the right type of slots (careful with some modern servers that ONLY have PCI Express slots.) Hopefully someone can comment about modern digium cards in regards to compatability. Have they gotten better? On Mon, Dec 19, 2005 at 08:44:38AM +0800, Hiu Yen Onn said: Then, how about Acer? Does it work well with asterisk? Simone Cittadini wrote: Matt Florell ha scritto: The best Dell for a production environment Asterisk server is no Dell at all. They make some great workstations, but I've had many problems with their servers(as have many others on this list) when trying to use them in production for Asterisk. Take a look at the Digium compatibility list: http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=compatibility *I've installed a PowerEdge 2850 - Xeon 3.0GHz/2MB, 800FSB with two TE410P in it, the cards didn't worked out of the box, but they worked after a couple of hours googling around, and it is in production since 3 months, never gone down. * *(I'm not advocating dell, actually I don't even like dell as a society, only sharing my experience) ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] What is the best Dell Machine for Asterisk?
The SC430 will experience unusable call quality with a TDM400P due to IRQ Sharing problems. If you have some magic to get around this, please share because everyone I know that has tried using an SC430 has given up and switched to other platforms. -Kerry From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Phil PritchardSent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 1:30 PMTo: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial DiscussionSubject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] What is the best Dell Machine for Asterisk? i could not recommend dell more.and also to say, there is loads of support for 2.4 and 2.6 kernels for most if not all of there hardware."times are a changing!"the best bang for buck(only a few months ago) is the poweredge sc430..(extremely quiet, without a load)works perfectly, everything!with regard to irq problems, you will get that with any machine/hardware. not just dell.when i build or commission a new server, i always run hardware tests. like ram, hard drive, processor and motherboard.checking motherboard for interrupt conflicts etc.(with all cards installed)the best all round tool for this is the UBCD. universal boot cd ( goggle )there are a few versions, ie. a small(about 35meg) and a large one( abit over 100meg)...for memory.i have a lot of dell machines, including some very old ones.. that still go hard...the engineering in these machines is the reason why i use them.i have pulled a lot of machines/servers apart, and there one of the best..there my bit! hope it helps...PhilWilliam Boehlke wrote: We have more than a hundred Dell servers in production at customers. We use them because we can have them serviced easily, just about anywhere. They are principally 1850s and 2850s, or their predecessors, in T1 and larger applications. The reported IRQ problems are easily avoided if, for example, you don't use more than one card in a server or, better yet, don't use cards at all. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of C F Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 5:22 PM To: Walt Reed; Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] What is the best Dell Machine for Asterisk? Last time I checked Dell does support Linux. http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=uscs=04kc=6W300l=en oc=pe2850-maxs=bsd Scroll down to the OS chose and you'll see out of 26 choices only 4 are M$, the rest minus one are for a total of 21 linux choices. On 12/19/05, Walt Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why oh why would you want to install *, which runs on Linux, on a machine made by a company that does NOT support Linux? Both IBM and HP do a pretty good job of supporting Linux. So do other Linux oriented companies like PenguinComputing.com Digium cards have historically been a little finicky in regards to which machines they work in, but Sangoma cards should work in virtually any modern machine that has the right type of slots (careful with some modern servers that ONLY have PCI Express slots.) Hopefully someone can comment about modern digium cards in regards to compatability. Have they gotten better? On Mon, Dec 19, 2005 at 08:44:38AM +0800, Hiu Yen Onn said: Then, how about Acer? Does it work well with asterisk? Simone Cittadini wrote: Matt Florell ha scritto: The best Dell for a production environment Asterisk server is no Dell at all. They make some great workstations, but I've had many problems with their servers(as have many others on this list) when trying to use them in production for Asterisk. Take a look at the Digium compatibility list: http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=compatibility *I've installed a PowerEdge 2850 - Xeon 3.0GHz/2MB, 800FSB with two TE410P in it, the cards didn't worked out of the box, but they worked after a couple of hours googling around, and it is in production since 3 months, never gone down. * *(I'm not advocating dell, actually I don't even like dell as a society, only sharing my experience) ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailma
Re: [Asterisk-Users] What is the best Dell Machine for Asterisk?
Kerry Garrison wrote: The SC430 will experience unusable call quality with a TDM400P due to IRQ Sharing problems. If you have some magic to get around this, please share because everyone I know that has tried using an SC430 has given up and switched to other platforms. -Kerry All recent Dell systems support APIC. However, most kernels (at least from RedHat, probably others) do not enable APIC on single processor machines. If this is the case, try rebuilding the kernel to support APIC on uniprocessor machines. This should resolve any IRQ sharing problems. -- Kristian Kielhofner ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] What is the best Dell Machine for Asterisk?
I am looking at the 830 systems now. I have heard good reports from other users and the price point for a loaded system is still dirt cheap. Any comments on this particular model? -Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kristian Kielhofner Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 3:27 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] What is the best Dell Machine for Asterisk? Kerry Garrison wrote: The SC430 will experience unusable call quality with a TDM400P due to IRQ Sharing problems. If you have some magic to get around this, please share because everyone I know that has tried using an SC430 has given up and switched to other platforms. -Kerry All recent Dell systems support APIC. However, most kernels (at least from RedHat, probably others) do not enable APIC on single processor machines. If this is the case, try rebuilding the kernel to support APIC on uniprocessor machines. This should resolve any IRQ sharing problems. -- Kristian Kielhofner ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] What is the best Dell Machine for Asterisk?
The 830s are nice but limited because they do RAID on a card and have but one suitable PCI slot. So you can have an interface card or RAID, but not both. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kerry Garrison Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 3:42 PM To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] What is the best Dell Machine for Asterisk? I am looking at the 830 systems now. I have heard good reports from other users and the price point for a loaded system is still dirt cheap. Any comments on this particular model? -Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kristian Kielhofner Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 3:27 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] What is the best Dell Machine for Asterisk? Kerry Garrison wrote: The SC430 will experience unusable call quality with a TDM400P due to IRQ Sharing problems. If you have some magic to get around this, please share because everyone I know that has tried using an SC430 has given up and switched to other platforms. -Kerry All recent Dell systems support APIC. However, most kernels (at least from RedHat, probably others) do not enable APIC on single processor machines. If this is the case, try rebuilding the kernel to support APIC on uniprocessor machines. This should resolve any IRQ sharing problems. -- Kristian Kielhofner ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] What is the best Dell Machine for Asterisk?
I thought they had several available PCI slots. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Boehlke Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 4:02 PM To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] What is the best Dell Machine for Asterisk? The 830s are nice but limited because they do RAID on a card and have but one suitable PCI slot. So you can have an interface card or RAID, but not both. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kerry Garrison Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 3:42 PM To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] What is the best Dell Machine for Asterisk? I am looking at the 830 systems now. I have heard good reports from other users and the price point for a loaded system is still dirt cheap. Any comments on this particular model? -Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kristian Kielhofner Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 3:27 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] What is the best Dell Machine for Asterisk? Kerry Garrison wrote: The SC430 will experience unusable call quality with a TDM400P due to IRQ Sharing problems. If you have some magic to get around this, please share because everyone I know that has tried using an SC430 has given up and switched to other platforms. -Kerry All recent Dell systems support APIC. However, most kernels (at least from RedHat, probably others) do not enable APIC on single processor machines. If this is the case, try rebuilding the kernel to support APIC on uniprocessor machines. This should resolve any IRQ sharing problems. -- Kristian Kielhofner ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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Read the original post too fast. The 850 has only one useable slot. The 830 appears to have a couple. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kerry Garrison Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 4:34 PM To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] What is the best Dell Machine for Asterisk? I thought they had several available PCI slots. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Boehlke Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 4:02 PM To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] What is the best Dell Machine for Asterisk? The 830s are nice but limited because they do RAID on a card and have but one suitable PCI slot. So you can have an interface card or RAID, but not both. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kerry Garrison Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 3:42 PM To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] What is the best Dell Machine for Asterisk? I am looking at the 830 systems now. I have heard good reports from other users and the price point for a loaded system is still dirt cheap. Any comments on this particular model? -Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kristian Kielhofner Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 3:27 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] What is the best Dell Machine for Asterisk? Kerry Garrison wrote: The SC430 will experience unusable call quality with a TDM400P due to IRQ Sharing problems. If you have some magic to get around this, please share because everyone I know that has tried using an SC430 has given up and switched to other platforms. -Kerry All recent Dell systems support APIC. However, most kernels (at least from RedHat, probably others) do not enable APIC on single processor machines. If this is the case, try rebuilding the kernel to support APIC on uniprocessor machines. This should resolve any IRQ sharing problems. -- Kristian Kielhofner ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] What is the best Dell Machine for Asterisk?
Last time I checked Dell does support Linux. http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=uscs=04kc=6W300l=enoc=pe2850-maxs=bsd Scroll down to the OS chose and you'll see out of 26 choices only 4 are M$, the rest minus one are for a total of 21 linux choices. On 12/19/05, Walt Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why oh why would you want to install *, which runs on Linux, on a machine made by a company that does NOT support Linux? Both IBM and HP do a pretty good job of supporting Linux. So do other Linux oriented companies like PenguinComputing.com Digium cards have historically been a little finicky in regards to which machines they work in, but Sangoma cards should work in virtually any modern machine that has the right type of slots (careful with some modern servers that ONLY have PCI Express slots.) Hopefully someone can comment about modern digium cards in regards to compatability. Have they gotten better? On Mon, Dec 19, 2005 at 08:44:38AM +0800, Hiu Yen Onn said: Then, how about Acer? Does it work well with asterisk? Simone Cittadini wrote: Matt Florell ha scritto: The best Dell for a production environment Asterisk server is no Dell at all. They make some great workstations, but I've had many problems with their servers(as have many others on this list) when trying to use them in production for Asterisk. Take a look at the Digium compatibility list: http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=compatibility *I've installed a PowerEdge 2850 - Xeon 3.0GHz/2MB, 800FSB with two TE410P in it, the cards didn't worked out of the box, but they worked after a couple of hours googling around, and it is in production since 3 months, never gone down. * *(I'm not advocating dell, actually I don't even like dell as a society, only sharing my experience) ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] What is the best Dell Machine for Asterisk?
On 12/18/05, Hiu Yen Onn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi all, What is the best Asterisk-compliant for Dell machine is recommended? I will have roughly 400 users in a production office. thanks!! ___ We turned up a T/E411P card with the hardware echo can on a fairly beefy Dell 2850 machine for a client today and had no problems doing so at all. It worked flawlessly. -- Bird's The Word Technologies, Inc. http://www.btwtech.com/ ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] What is the best Dell Machine for Asterisk?
We have more than a hundred Dell servers in production at customers. We use them because we can have them serviced easily, just about anywhere. They are principally 1850s and 2850s, or their predecessors, in T1 and larger applications. The reported IRQ problems are easily avoided if, for example, you don't use more than one card in a server or, better yet, don't use cards at all. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of C F Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 5:22 PM To: Walt Reed; Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] What is the best Dell Machine for Asterisk? Last time I checked Dell does support Linux. http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=uscs=04kc=6W300l=en; oc=pe2850-maxs=bsd Scroll down to the OS chose and you'll see out of 26 choices only 4 are M$, the rest minus one are for a total of 21 linux choices. On 12/19/05, Walt Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why oh why would you want to install *, which runs on Linux, on a machine made by a company that does NOT support Linux? Both IBM and HP do a pretty good job of supporting Linux. So do other Linux oriented companies like PenguinComputing.com Digium cards have historically been a little finicky in regards to which machines they work in, but Sangoma cards should work in virtually any modern machine that has the right type of slots (careful with some modern servers that ONLY have PCI Express slots.) Hopefully someone can comment about modern digium cards in regards to compatability. Have they gotten better? On Mon, Dec 19, 2005 at 08:44:38AM +0800, Hiu Yen Onn said: Then, how about Acer? Does it work well with asterisk? Simone Cittadini wrote: Matt Florell ha scritto: The best Dell for a production environment Asterisk server is no Dell at all. They make some great workstations, but I've had many problems with their servers(as have many others on this list) when trying to use them in production for Asterisk. Take a look at the Digium compatibility list: http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=compatibility *I've installed a PowerEdge 2850 - Xeon 3.0GHz/2MB, 800FSB with two TE410P in it, the cards didn't worked out of the box, but they worked after a couple of hours googling around, and it is in production since 3 months, never gone down. * *(I'm not advocating dell, actually I don't even like dell as a society, only sharing my experience) ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] What is the best Dell Machine for Asterisk?
Why oh why would you want to install *, which runs on Linux, on a machine made by a company that does NOT support Linux? Both IBM and HP do a pretty good job of supporting Linux. So do other Linux oriented companies like PenguinComputing.com Digium cards have historically been a little finicky in regards to which machines they work in, but Sangoma cards should work in virtually any modern machine that has the right type of slots (careful with some modern servers that ONLY have PCI Express slots.) Hopefully someone can comment about modern digium cards in regards to compatability. Have they gotten better? On Mon, Dec 19, 2005 at 08:44:38AM +0800, Hiu Yen Onn said: Then, how about Acer? Does it work well with asterisk? Simone Cittadini wrote: Matt Florell ha scritto: The best Dell for a production environment Asterisk server is no Dell at all. They make some great workstations, but I've had many problems with their servers(as have many others on this list) when trying to use them in production for Asterisk. Take a look at the Digium compatibility list: http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=compatibility *I've installed a PowerEdge 2850 - Xeon 3.0GHz/2MB, 800FSB with two TE410P in it, the cards didn't worked out of the box, but they worked after a couple of hours googling around, and it is in production since 3 months, never gone down. * *(I'm not advocating dell, actually I don't even like dell as a society, only sharing my experience) ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] What is the best Dell Machine for Asterisk?
Then, how about Acer? Does it work well with asterisk? Simone Cittadini wrote: Matt Florell ha scritto: The best Dell for a production environment Asterisk server is no Dell at all. They make some great workstations, but I've had many problems with their servers(as have many others on this list) when trying to use them in production for Asterisk. Take a look at the Digium compatibility list: http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=compatibility *I've installed a PowerEdge 2850 - Xeon 3.0GHz/2MB, 800FSB with two TE410P in it, the cards didn't worked out of the box, but they worked after a couple of hours googling around, and it is in production since 3 months, never gone down. * *(I'm not advocating dell, actually I don't even like dell as a society, only sharing my experience) * ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] What is the best Dell Machine for Asterisk?
How big of RAM for Asterisk server? My production environment will be about 400 users in the office. Matt Florell wrote: The best Dell for a production environment Asterisk server is no Dell at all. They make some great workstations, but I've had many problems with their servers(as have many others on this list) when trying to use them in production for Asterisk. Take a look at the Digium compatibility list: http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=compatibility You will notice that there are several Dells on there as well. The best solution is to build your own server with an Asus or SuperMicro Motherboard in it or buy a SuperMicro system from one of the many vendors that assemble systems with SuperMicro boards in them(just do a google search for supermicro servers). Hope that helps, MATT--- On 12/16/05, Hiu Yen Onn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi all, What is the best Asterisk-compliant for Dell machine is recommended? I will have roughly 400 users in a production office. thanks!! ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] What is the best Dell Machine for Asterisk?
Matt Florell ha scritto: The best Dell for a production environment Asterisk server is no Dell at all. They make some great workstations, but I've had many problems with their servers(as have many others on this list) when trying to use them in production for Asterisk. Take a look at the Digium compatibility list: http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=compatibility *I've installed a PowerEdge 2850 - Xeon 3.0GHz/2MB, 800FSB with two TE410P in it, the cards didn't worked out of the box, but they worked after a couple of hours googling around, and it is in production since 3 months, never gone down. * *(I'm not advocating dell, actually I don't even like dell as a society, only sharing my experience) * ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] What is the best Dell Machine for Asterisk?
hi all, What is the best Asterisk-compliant for Dell machine is recommended? I will have roughly 400 users in a production office. thanks!! ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] What is the best Dell Machine for Asterisk?
The best Dell for a production environment Asterisk server is no Dell at all. They make some great workstations, but I've had many problems with their servers(as have many others on this list) when trying to use them in production for Asterisk. Take a look at the Digium compatibility list: http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=compatibility You will notice that there are several Dells on there as well. The best solution is to build your own server with an Asus or SuperMicro Motherboard in it or buy a SuperMicro system from one of the many vendors that assemble systems with SuperMicro boards in them(just do a google search for supermicro servers). Hope that helps, MATT--- On 12/16/05, Hiu Yen Onn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi all, What is the best Asterisk-compliant for Dell machine is recommended? I will have roughly 400 users in a production office. thanks!! ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
