Re: [Asterisk-Users] X100P delayed ring on incoming calls?
Joseph Gutowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] I wasn't suggesting Asterisk should magically be able to pick up the call before it rings at all, just that if my old roommate could manage to dive across the room and pick up half way through the first ring 99% of the time, surely a computer could do it (if it wasn't waiting for caller ID or distinctive ring determination). This tangential thread was referring to the UK. Your roommate would have to be very alert and fit to be able to realise the phone is ringing and answer it within 400ms :) With a 20Hz ringing current, that's just eight cycles of AC per ring. A piece of kit that tries to detect ringing without just leaving it to finish ringing is likely to suffer from false positives. And the 1 ring wasn't constant -- sometimes it's one ring, sometimes it's 3 -- with no apparent reason (test server with nothing to do except answer one X100P and play an IVR menu). Well, the X100P (or at least a clone) is an unreliable piece of junk anyway, so this doesn't surprise me. Mine has now taken to randomly answering the line even when there's no inbound call, and has now been relegated to being just a Zaptel timing source. -- PGP key ID E85DC776 - finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for full key Please contribute to the beer fund and a tidier house: http://search.ebay.co.uk/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQfrppZ25QQsassZpndc ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] X100P delayed ring on incoming calls?
I have setup an asterisk box with 3off X100P cards and hooked them up to the PSTN. So far so good, everything does what it is supposed to do for the msot part. Incoming calls seem to ring three or four times before asterisk then skips to do what it is supposed to do. If the caller drops the call before the extensions have started ringing asterisk seems not to pick this up and carries on regardless. Anyone got any ideas? This was built from CVS. == Spawn extension (BT_PSTN, s, 1) exited non-zero on 'Zap/3-1' -- Hungup 'Zap/3-1' -- Starting simple switch on 'Zap/3-1' Apr 22 09:20:11 NOTICE[20851]: chan_zap.c:5585 ss_thread: Got event 2 (Ring/Answered)... Apr 22 09:20:13 NOTICE[20851]: chan_zap.c:5585 ss_thread: Got event 2 (Ring/Answered)... Apr 22 09:20:14 NOTICE[20851]: chan_zap.c:5585 ss_thread: Got event 2 (Ring/Answered)... Apr 22 09:20:16 NOTICE[20851]: chan_zap.c:5585 ss_thread: Got event 2 (Ring/Answered)... -- Executing Dial(Zap/3-1, SIP/110SIP/112|20|tr) in new stack -- Called 110 -- Called 112 -- SIP/110-ff2f is ringing -- SIP/112-4713 is ringing -- SIP/110-ff2f answered Zap/3-1 extensions.conf [BT_PSTN] exten = s,1,Answer exten = s,2,Dial(SIP/110SIP/112,20,tr) exten = s,3,Voicemail(u000) zapata.conf context=BT_PSTN callerid=Inbound Call 01774987987 signalling = fxs_ks channel=1-3 group = 1 ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] X100P delayed ring on incoming calls?
On Fri, 2005-04-22 at 10:22 +0100, bam wrote: I have setup an asterisk box with 3off X100P cards and hooked them up to the PSTN. So far so good, everything does what it is supposed to do for the msot part. Incoming calls seem to ring three or four times before asterisk then skips to do what it is supposed to do. If the caller drops the call before the extensions have started ringing asterisk seems not to pick this up and carries on regardless. Anyone got any ideas? This sounds like the CallerID problem. * is trying to get the ID, but the UK's method is different to the default, so it does not get an ID it finally gives up and processes the call. Look for UKCaller ID settings in the archives or Wiki. (I left the UK 12 years ago so I've never looked at it). -- Dave Cotton [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] X100P delayed ring on incoming calls?
On Friday 22 April 2005 10:45, Dave Cotton wrote: On Fri, 2005-04-22 at 10:22 +0100, bam wrote: Incoming calls seem to ring three or four times before asterisk then skips to do what it is supposed to do. If the caller drops the call before the extensions have started ringing asterisk seems not to pick this up and carries on regardless. I had this problem, and I think I tracked the problem down to the order I had the commands in my zapata.conf. Here is my working one which passes CallerID and causes * to pickup the call immediately: [channels] signalling=fxs_ks usecallerid=yes cidsignalling=v23 cidstart=usehist language=en context=from-landline echotraining=yes echocancelwhenbridged=yes echocancel=yes rxgain=1.0 txgain=-6.0 channel=1 immediate=no Previously I had the three CallerID directives *AFTER* the 'channel=1' and this seemed to confuse it.. Cheers, Gavin. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] X100P delayed ring on incoming calls?
3-4 rings seems kind of long, I usually see 1.5-2 (enough to grab the caller ID here in the States). The only way I know of to speed it up is to turn off all of the features like distinctive ring detection, caller ID, etc. -- depending on your usage, that may help some. I haven't confirmed that this actually does anything myself, but it seems logical that Asterisk could pick up quicker if it wasn't waiting for caller ID. This is what people suggest if you Google the list. Either way, the best I've ever managed on the X100P's was 1 ring before Asterisk picks up and starts doing its thing. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] X100P delayed ring on incoming calls?
On Fri, 2005-04-22 at 10:45, Dave Cotton wrote: On Fri, 2005-04-22 at 10:22 +0100, bam wrote: I have setup an asterisk box with 3off X100P cards and hooked them up to the PSTN. So far so good, everything does what it is supposed to do for the most part. Incoming calls seem to ring three or four times before asterisk then skips to do what it is supposed to do. If the caller drops the call before the extensions have started ringing asterisk seems not to pick this up and carries on regardless. Anyone got any ideas? This sounds like the CallerID problem. * is trying to get the ID, but the UK's method is different to the default, so it does not get an ID it finally gives up and processes the call. Look for UKCaller ID settings in the archives or Wiki. (I left the UK 12 years ago so I've never looked at it). What a hero, problem solved. ;-) zapata.conf usecallerid=no ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] X100P delayed ring on incoming calls?
Joseph Gutowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Either way, the best I've ever managed on the X100P's was 1 ring before Asterisk picks up and starts doing its thing. Well, when you think about it, it's hardly going to pick up after zero rings, is it? :) -- Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. - Benjamin Franklin ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] X100P delayed ring on incoming calls?
On Friday 22 April 2005 12:07, Peter Corlett wrote: Joseph Gutowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Either way, the best I've ever managed on the X100P's was 1 ring before Asterisk picks up and starts doing its thing. Well, when you think about it, it's hardly going to pick up after zero rings, is it? :) In the UK it's entirely possible - the CallerID info comes through as encoded data before the first ring has taken place :) Polarity change, a burst of V23 data, then the normal rings Cheers, Gavin. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] X100P delayed ring on incoming calls?
3-4 rings seems kind of long, I usually see 1.5-2 (enough to grab the caller ID here in the States). The only way I know of to speed it up is to turn off all of the features like distinctive ring detection, caller ID, etc. -- depending on your usage, that may help some. I haven't confirmed that this actually does anything myself, but it seems logical that Asterisk could pick up quicker if it wasn't waiting for caller ID. This is what people suggest if you Google the list. Either way, the best I've ever managed on the X100P's was 1 ring before Asterisk picks up and starts doing its thing. Or, try immediate=yes in zapata.conf ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] X100P delayed ring on incoming calls?
Joseph Gutowski wrote: The only way I know of to speed it up is to turn off all of the features like distinctive ring detection, caller ID, etc. -- depending on your usage, that may help some. I haven't confirmed that this actually does anything myself, but it seems logical that Asterisk could pick up quicker if it wasn't waiting for caller ID. This is what people suggest if you Google the list. Either way, the best I've ever managed on the X100P's was 1 ring before Asterisk picks up and starts doing its thing. We came across this exact problem in testing, and the more we thought about it, the more we realised it's actually a non-problem. Think about it from the point of view of the person ringing. What do they hear, if there's that delay? ring ring ring ring ring ring Thank you for calling XYZ. Please press 1 for this, 2 for that hold music Hello, XYZ, Dave speaking, how can I help? Now remove the ring ring - they've barely finished dialling before they're into the Thank you for calling. I don't know about you, but I tend to use the ringing time as a bit of an opportunity to get my brain in gear. It actually *throws* me slightly if I don't hear a ring or three. If somebody's using an all-in-one type of phone, perhaps a landline with the buttons in the same physical bit you hold to your head, or a mobile, they'll probably miss the first ring or so as they move the phone from in front of them to their ear. Which is better - they miss a ring ring or they miss the initial announcement and have to go through the IVR again, or just plain get a bit flustered? Don't forget - not all callers are us. A lot of people out there still have techno-fear with things as complex as telephones. -- Adrian Chapman Director Trivas Ltd Business on the Move Mobility - Messaging - Infrastructure - Security - Remote Access 07796 690210 - 01582 626552 ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] X100P delayed ring on incoming calls?
Gavin Hamill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 22 April 2005 12:07, Peter Corlett wrote: [...] In the UK it's entirely possible - the CallerID info comes through as encoded data before the first ring has taken place :) Polarity change, a burst of V23 data, then the normal rings A good point, but I gather the X100P can't detect a line inversion, so it's pretty much still got to wait until it sees loads of RICH, CHUNKY VOLTS to know there's an incoming call. -- PGP key ID E85DC776 - finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for full key Please contribute to the beer fund and a tidier house: http://search.ebay.co.uk/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQfrppZ25QQsassZpndc ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] X100P delayed ring on incoming calls?
I wasn't suggesting Asterisk should magically be able to pick up the call before it rings at all, just that if my old roommate could manage to dive across the room and pick up half way through the first ring 99% of the time, surely a computer could do it (if it wasn't waiting for caller ID or distinctive ring determination). And the 1 ring wasn't constant -- sometimes it's one ring, sometimes it's 3 -- with no apparent reason (test server with nothing to do except answer one X100P and play an IVR menu). ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
