[asterisk-users] Fax-to-Email - Legal Issues
Hello everyone, Some months ago there were news about J2 filing lawsuits against companies using fax-to-email technology, as they claimed it was their patent. They had also won some cases, until someone filed a counter lawsuit against them based some other grounds but again related to fax-to-email. Anybody knows what is latest in this regard? Can now fax-to-email be used without fear of being sued. -- Zeeshan A Zakaria ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Fax-to-Email - Legal Issues
Zeeshan Zakaria wrote: Hello everyone, Some months ago there were news about J2 filing lawsuits against companies using fax-to-email technology, as they claimed it was their patent. They had also won some cases, until someone filed a counter lawsuit against them based some other grounds but again related to fax-to-email. Anybody knows what is latest in this regard? Can now fax-to-email be used without fear of being sued. -- Zeeshan A Zakaria The key site to look at it www.catchcurve.com. This is the name under which J2 troll their patents. If you look at the list of companies who paid up, you'll see most of the big names in telecoms. The patents actually suck, though. I didn't find a single patent of any substance. It remains to be seem whether things change in light of the recent SCOTUS ruling on obviousness. Steve ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] Fax to Email issue with Spandsp tif not correctly sized
Hello, I've google to trouble shoot my issue but i was not able to find a solution, I've install asterisk all the libraries to receive faxes:Spandsp 0.0.2 pre 25 tiff lib.I'make it work i can receive faxes on an extension but the issue is that i m in France an we are sending faxes in A4 format so i set that up in the perl script /var/lib/asterisk/bin/fax- process.pl by passing the good option to the tiff2pdf.still not good output then i check the .tif and here i could see that the tif itself is not well formatted.It is looking like larger is bigger and height is smaller. How can i set the rx_fax.c that i well receiving the Fax's tif.Thank you Regards,-- -= Nicolas Finetin =-[EMAIL PROTECTED] +33 689 20 90 72 ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] Fax to Email with Asterisk and Lucent TNT
Hello, I have a Lucent MAX TNT, (DS-3, 672 modem ports, 28 PRIs). I'd like to be able to direct an inbound fax call into my TNT, have it answer the fax and send the image file over to Asterisk, or some other system to deliver to an e-mail address(s). I'm not sure if I need Asterisk to any of the call control or not. I'd also like to setup a print queue and have outbound faxes go to the print queue and eventually out the MAX TNT PRIs. Has anyone setup such a system? What would you recommend? -Matt -- Matthew S. Crocker Vice President Crocker Communications, Inc. Internet Division PO BOX 710 Greenfield, MA 01302-0710 http://www.crocker.com ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax to Email with Asterisk and Lucent TNT
On Tue, 2006-02-14 at 14:53 -0500, Matthew Crocker wrote: Hello, I have a Lucent MAX TNT, (DS-3, 672 modem ports, 28 PRIs). I'd like to be able to direct an inbound fax call into my TNT, have it answer the fax and send the image file over to Asterisk, or some other system to deliver to an e-mail address(s). I'm not sure if I need Asterisk to any of the call control or not. I'd also like to setup a print queue and have outbound faxes go to the print queue and eventually out the MAX TNT PRIs. Has anyone setup such a system? What would you recommend? -Matt Be careful with this there is a company (J2 iirc) that owns a patent on doing this, and they have charged people patent usage fees if they resell this service. Yeah its a bogus patent (prior art at the very least), but no one wants to pay the $2M in lawyer fees to fight it, its cheaper to pay the $1/customer or whatever their license fee is. -- Trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com Bret McDanel UK +44 870 340 4605 Germany +49 801 777 555 3402 US +1 360 207 0479 or +1 516 687 5200 FreeWorldDialup: 635378 http://www.sacaug.org/ Sacramento Asterisk Users Group signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Fax to Email with Asterisk and Lucent TNT
We've setup automatic printing of faxes from asterisk (spool to a net queue or direct to local printer), use the sendmail capability of emailing to an executable (alias). Why send an image over to asterisk from the TNT? MD -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Crocker Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 2:53 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Fax to Email with Asterisk and Lucent TNT Hello, I have a Lucent MAX TNT, (DS-3, 672 modem ports, 28 PRIs). I'd like to be able to direct an inbound fax call into my TNT, have it answer the fax and send the image file over to Asterisk, or some other system to deliver to an e-mail address(s). I'm not sure if I need Asterisk to any of the call control or not. I'd also like to setup a print queue and have outbound faxes go to the print queue and eventually out the MAX TNT PRIs. Has anyone setup such a system? What would you recommend? -Matt -- Matthew S. Crocker Vice President Crocker Communications, Inc. Internet Division PO BOX 710 Greenfield, MA 01302-0710 http://www.crocker.com ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax to Email with Asterisk and Lucent TNT
On Tue, 14 Feb 2006, Matthew Crocker wrote: I have a Lucent MAX TNT, (DS-3, 672 modem ports, 28 PRIs). I'd like to be able to direct an inbound fax call into my TNT, have it answer the fax and send the image file over to Asterisk, or some other system to deliver to an e-mail address(s). I'm not sure if I need Asterisk to any of the call control or not. I'd also like to setup a print queue and have outbound faxes go to the print queue and eventually out the MAX TNT PRIs. Has anyone setup such a system? What would you recommend? nvfaxdetect / nvbackgrounddetect, along with spandsp+rxfax/txfax is your answer. http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-NVFaxDetect -Dan ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax to Email with Asterisk and Lucent TNT
On Feb 14, 2006, at 4:33 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 14 Feb 2006, Matthew Crocker wrote: I have a Lucent MAX TNT, (DS-3, 672 modem ports, 28 PRIs). I'd like to be able to direct an inbound fax call into my TNT, have it answer the fax and send the image file over to Asterisk, or some other system to deliver to an e-mail address(s). I'm not sure if I need Asterisk to any of the call control or not. I'd also like to setup a print queue and have outbound faxes go to the print queue and eventually out the MAX TNT PRIs. Has anyone setup such a system? What would you recommend? nvfaxdetect / nvbackgrounddetect, along with spandsp+rxfax/txfax is your answer. http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-NVFaxDetect I didn't think this was scalable to a PRI full of fax calls. I'm trying to build a higher end fax server, all fax. My VoIP is handled by my Tekelec t6000 softswitch. I was hoping I could utilize the DSPs in the MAX TNT which are currently sitting idle. PRIs are free for me once I buy the switch ports. I think I'm going to go with a HyldaFAX enterprise solution with Brooktrout cards if I can't get the TNT to do its thing. -Matt -- Matthew S. Crocker Vice President Crocker Communications, Inc. Internet Division PO BOX 710 Greenfield, MA 01302-0710 http://www.crocker.com ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax to Email with Asterisk and Lucent TNT
On Tue, 2006-02-14 at 17:26 -0500, Matthew Crocker wrote: On Feb 14, 2006, at 4:33 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 14 Feb 2006, Matthew Crocker wrote: I have a Lucent MAX TNT, (DS-3, 672 modem ports, 28 PRIs). I'd like to be able to direct an inbound fax call into my TNT, have it answer the fax and send the image file over to Asterisk, or some other system to deliver to an e-mail address(s). I'm not sure if I need Asterisk to any of the call control or not. I'd also like to setup a print queue and have outbound faxes go to the print queue and eventually out the MAX TNT PRIs. Has anyone setup such a system? What would you recommend? nvfaxdetect / nvbackgrounddetect, along with spandsp+rxfax/txfax is your answer. http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-NVFaxDetect I also believe that rxfax if it ever gets an error it dumps the call, I may be wrong. some have used http://sf.net/projects/iaxmodem (which uses spandsp) and hylafax so that hylafax can do some error control. -- Trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com Bret McDanel UK +44 870 340 4605 Germany +49 801 777 555 3402 US +1 360 207 0479 or +1 516 687 5200 FreeWorldDialup: 635378 http://www.sacaug.org/ Sacramento Asterisk Users Group signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax to Email with Asterisk and Lucent TNT
On Tue, 14 Feb 2006, Matthew Crocker wrote: On Feb 14, 2006, at 4:33 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nvfaxdetect / nvbackgrounddetect, along with spandsp+rxfax/txfax is your answer. http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-NVFaxDetect I didn't think this was scalable to a PRI full of fax calls. I'm trying to build a higher end fax server, all fax. My VoIP is handled by my Tekelec t6000 softswitch. I was hoping I could utilize the DSPs in the MAX TNT which are currently sitting idle. PRIs are free for me once I buy the switch ports. I think I'm going to go with a HyldaFAX enterprise solution with Brooktrout cards if I can't get the TNT to do its thing. you can use nvfaxdetect to redirect fax calls to your tnt. -Dan ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] Fax to email using mime-contruct
I have followed and succesfully receive incoming faxes to email with Scott Laird's faxing with asterisk guide. http://scottstuff.net/blog/articles/2004/03/28/faxing-with-asterisk But, I'm receiving the email from [EMAIL PROTECTED] I would prefer it to receive from [EMAIL PROTECTED] How do I achive this? Please advice. I'm using postfix. Thanks. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
SV: [Asterisk-Users] Fax to email using mime-contruct
I also want to try that asterisk guide. But i'm not sure if i understood it correctly. What exactly do i need to do? Do i need to compile Asterisk with the spanDSP plugin or just configure extensions.conf? The URL to spanDSP in the guide wasn't working. I also use a traditional internet line to recieve calls and hopefully i will get Fax working soon. This is so confusing. Thanks, Arne Morten -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] På vegne av Eddie Sendt: 24. august 2005 08:42 Til: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Emne: [Asterisk-Users] Fax to email using mime-contruct I have followed and succesfully receive incoming faxes to email with Scott Laird's faxing with asterisk guide. http://scottstuff.net/blog/articles/2004/03/28/faxing-with-asterisk But, I'm receiving the email from [EMAIL PROTECTED] I would prefer it to receive from [EMAIL PROTECTED] How do I achive this? Please advice. I'm using postfix. Thanks. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax to email using mime-contruct
Hi Arne, Spandsp is available from www.soft-switch.org where you will also find instructions on how to compile and install it. You will then need to configure extensions.conf to receive your faxes and email them to you. Craig - Original Message - From: Arne Morten Johansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 3:38 PM Subject: SV: [Asterisk-Users] Fax to email using mime-contruct I also want to try that asterisk guide. But i'm not sure if i understood it correctly. What exactly do i need to do? Do i need to compile Asterisk with the spanDSP plugin or just configure extensions.conf? The URL to spanDSP in the guide wasn't working. I also use a traditional internet line to recieve calls and hopefully i will get Fax working soon. This is so confusing. Thanks, Arne Morten -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] På vegne av Eddie Sendt: 24. august 2005 08:42 Til: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Emne: [Asterisk-Users] Fax to email using mime-contruct I have followed and succesfully receive incoming faxes to email with Scott Laird's faxing with asterisk guide. http://scottstuff.net/blog/articles/2004/03/28/faxing-with-asterisk But, I'm receiving the email from [EMAIL PROTECTED] I would prefer it to receive from [EMAIL PROTECTED] How do I achive this? Please advice. I'm using postfix. Thanks. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax to email using mime-contruct
Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] På vegne av Eddie Sendt: 24. august 2005 08:42 Til: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Emne: [Asterisk-Users] Fax to email using mime-contruct I have followed and succesfully receive incoming faxes to email with Scott Laird's faxing with asterisk guide. http://scottstuff.net/blog/articles/2004/03/28/faxing-with-asterisk But, I'm receiving the email from [EMAIL PROTECTED] I would prefer it to receive from [EMAIL PROTECTED] How do I achive this? Please advice. I'm using postfix. Thanks. mime-construct is handing off to sendmail (in your case, postfix is impersonating sendmail) and is not specifying a from address to the MTA. If you want to change the behavior of mime-construct to do this, you apply the following patch to mime-construct and then adjust the mailfax script to include the --from option with the email address you want the emailed faxes to appear to come from. 60d59 --from address specify the sending address (will default to the user the script is run as) 281c280 @output, $multipart, $multipart_encoding, @recip, $prelude, $fromaddr); --- @output, $multipart, $multipart_encoding, @recip, $prelude); 289c288 $fromaddr = ''; --- 369,371c368 elsif ($switch eq '--from') { $fromaddr = $arg; } --- 446d442 push @output, cont From: , $fromaddr, \n if $fromaddr ne ; 502,503c498,499 exec qw(sendmail -oi), @recip or xdie can't run sendmail:; --- exec qw(sendmail -oi), @recip or xdie can't run sendmail:; ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] Fax to Email
This has already been answered...but I can't find it... Has anyone set up multiple fax lines in asterisk... Fax Extension #1 goes to email1 Fax Extension #2 goes to email2 ETC... In other words, I want to be able to give numerous users each a virtual fax machine.. Bill ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax to email problem
On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 20:23, Craig Guy wrote: As an initial troubleshoot, can you preserve the original .tiff file from rxfax and see if it is being received correctly or corrupted to determine if the issue is in related to asteriks or somewhere downstream in the fax processing to email part. Howdy Craig, thanks for the reply, When viewed directly from /var/spool/asterisk/fax, the file is corrupted, both in .pdf and .tif format, which tells me the problem is in the receive process somewhere. Hence my thinking that perhaps it has something to do with the receive bitrate ? Regards -- Chris Blake Cell: 082 775 1492 Work: +27 11 782 0840 Fax : +27 11 782 0841 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yo, Mike! Yeah, Gabe? We got a problem down on Earth. In Utah. I thought you fixed that last century! No, no, not that. Someone's found a security problem in the physics program. They're getting energy out of nowhere. Blessit! Lemme look... Hey, it's there all right! OK, just a sec... There, that ought to patch it. Dist it out, wouldja? -- Cold Fusion, 1989 ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax to email problem
On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 17:50, Guy Decarpentrie wrote: Le jeudi 7 Avril 2005 16:43, Chris Blake a écrit : Greetings *`s, I am trying to get faxes rec`d by * to be passed over to an email address, and although the fax is being rec`d, it is not being transmitted to the email address : Apr 7 18:07:24 WARNING[2078]: Unable to execute 'mime-construct --to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --subject Fax from 0 --attachment 0.pdf --type application/pdf --file /var/spool/asterisk/fax/1112889947.49.tif.pdf' --- Are you sure that you've installed the mime-construct package ? Hi Guy, thanks for the reply, 'rpm -qa | grep mime' brings up no result... So I downloaded/installed the package and its working now...many thanks for that suggestion :) However, that only solves half my problem, the fax is still badly corrupted. The following is from the log file : Apr 8 11:15:29 DEBUG[2078]: == Apr 8 11:15:29 DEBUG[2078]: Pages transferred: 1 Apr 8 11:15:29 DEBUG[2078]: Image size: 1728 x 368 Apr 8 11:15:29 DEBUG[2078]: Image resolution7700 x 3850 Apr 8 11:15:29 DEBUG[2078]: Transfer Rate: 9600 Apr 8 11:15:29 DEBUG[2078]: Bad rows82 Apr 8 11:15:29 DEBUG[2078]: Longest bad row run 50 Apr 8 11:15:29 DEBUG[2078]: Compression type1 Apr 8 11:15:29 DEBUG[2078]: Image size (bytes) 0 Apr 8 11:15:29 DEBUG[2078]: == Apr 8 11:15:31 DEBUG[2078]: == Apr 8 11:15:31 DEBUG[2078]: Fax successfully received. Apr 8 11:15:31 DEBUG[2078]: Remote station id: Apr 8 11:15:31 DEBUG[2078]: Local station id: Apr 8 11:15:31 DEBUG[2078]: Pages transferred: 1 Apr 8 11:15:31 DEBUG[2078]: Image resolution: 7700 x 3850 Apr 8 11:15:31 DEBUG[2078]: Transfer Rate: 9600 Apr 8 11:15:31 DEBUG[2078]: == What causes the 'bad rows', and how can I lower the bitrate to see if this is going to solve my problem. Regards -- Chris Blake Cell: 082 775 1492 Work: +27 11 782 0840 Fax : +27 11 782 0841 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Half of being smart is knowing what you're dumb at. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax to email problem
Le vendredi 8 Avril 2005 09:04, Chris Blake a écrit : On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 20:23, Craig Guy wrote: As an initial troubleshoot, can you preserve the original .tiff file from rxfax and see if it is being received correctly or corrupted to determine if the issue is in related to asteriks or somewhere downstream in the fax processing to email part. Howdy Craig, thanks for the reply, When viewed directly from /var/spool/asterisk/fax, the file is corrupted, both in .pdf and .tif format, which tells me the problem is in the receive process somewhere. Hence my thinking that perhaps it has something to do with the receive bitrate ? io Chris, try to remove one step by using directly tiff2pdf. ++ -- Guy Decarpentrie - Axelcom - ipx Responsable système Tel / Fax : 01.72.29.05.08 ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] Fax to email problem
Greetings *`s, I am trying to get faxes rec`d by * to be passed over to an email address, and although the fax is being rec`d, it is not being transmitted to the email address : Here is the bit from extensions.conf : = [ext-fax] exten = in_fax,1,GotoIf($[${FAX_RX} = system]?2:analog_fax,1) exten = in_fax,2,Macro(faxreceive) exten = in_fax,3,system(tiff2ps -2eaz -w 8.5 -h 11 ${FAXFILE} | ps2pdf - ${FAXFILE}.pdf) exten = in_fax,4,system(mime-construct --to ${EMAILADDR} --subject Fax from ${CALLERIDNUM} ${CALLERIDNAME} --attachment ${CALLERIDNUM}.pdf --type application/pdf --file ${FAXFILE}.pdf) exten = in_fax,5,system(rm ${FAXFILE} ${FAXFILE}.pdf) exten = in_fax,6,Hangup exten = analog_fax,1,GotoIf($[${FAX_RX} = disabled]?3:2) ;if fax is disabled, just hang up exten = analog_fax,2,Dial(${FAX_RX},20,d) exten = analog_fax,3,Hangup ;exten = out_fax,1,wait(7) exten = out_fax,1,txfax(${TXFAX_NAME}|caller) exten = out_fax,2,Hangup exten = h,1,Hangup() My log file (/var/log/asterisk/full) is stating the following : Apr 7 18:07:24 VERBOSE[2078]: -- Executing System(Zap/4-1, mime-construct --to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --subject Fax from 0 --attachment 0.pdf --type application/pdf --file /var/spool/asterisk/fax/1112889947.49.tif.pdf) in new stack Apr 7 18:07:24 WARNING[2078]: Unable to execute 'mime-construct --to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --subject Fax from 0 --attachment 0.pdf --type application/pdf --file /var/spool/asterisk/fax/1112889947.49.tif.pdf' --- I have looked at the sample construct for this in http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+Fax and all appears to be ok. Also, the fax when viewed with acroread (.pdf)or eog (.tif) is only half completed, in some cases totally unreadable. I am assuming this may have something to do with the fax bitrate, but I can`t see where/how I can set this variable. I have looked at apps_rxfax.c, the various conf files in /etc/asterisk, but have not found anything yet. Still gooogling...but if anyone has any ideas/hints I would appreciate them. Regards -- Chris Blake Cell: 082 775 1492 Work: +27 11 782 0840 Fax : +27 11 782 0841 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The difference between reality and unreality is that reality has so little to recommend it. -- Allan Sherman ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax to email problem
Le jeudi 7 Avril 2005 16:43, Chris Blake a écrit : Greetings *`s, I am trying to get faxes rec`d by * to be passed over to an email address, and although the fax is being rec`d, it is not being transmitted to the email address : Apr 7 18:07:24 WARNING[2078]: Unable to execute 'mime-construct --to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --subject Fax from 0 --attachment 0.pdf --type application/pdf --file /var/spool/asterisk/fax/1112889947.49.tif.pdf' --- Are you sure that you've installed the mime-construct package ? ++ -- Guy Decarpentrie - Axelcom - ipx Responsable système Tel / Fax : 01.72.29.05.08 ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax to email problem
As an initial troubleshoot, can you preserve the original .tiff file from rxfax and see if it is being received correctly or corrupted to determine if the issue is in related to asteriks or somewhere downstream in the fax processing to email part. Craig - Original Message - From: Chris Blake [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Asterisk asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 10:43 PM Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Fax to email problem Greetings *`s, I am trying to get faxes rec`d by * to be passed over to an email address, and although the fax is being rec`d, it is not being transmitted to the email address : Here is the bit from extensions.conf : = [ext-fax] exten = in_fax,1,GotoIf($[${FAX_RX} = system]?2:analog_fax,1) exten = in_fax,2,Macro(faxreceive) exten = in_fax,3,system(tiff2ps -2eaz -w 8.5 -h 11 ${FAXFILE} | ps2pdf - ${FAXFILE}.pdf) exten = in_fax,4,system(mime-construct --to ${EMAILADDR} --subject Fax from ${CALLERIDNUM} ${CALLERIDNAME} --attachment ${CALLERIDNUM}.pdf --type application/pdf --file ${FAXFILE}.pdf) exten = in_fax,5,system(rm ${FAXFILE} ${FAXFILE}.pdf) exten = in_fax,6,Hangup exten = analog_fax,1,GotoIf($[${FAX_RX} = disabled]?3:2) ;if fax is disabled, just hang up exten = analog_fax,2,Dial(${FAX_RX},20,d) exten = analog_fax,3,Hangup ;exten = out_fax,1,wait(7) exten = out_fax,1,txfax(${TXFAX_NAME}|caller) exten = out_fax,2,Hangup exten = h,1,Hangup() My log file (/var/log/asterisk/full) is stating the following : Apr 7 18:07:24 VERBOSE[2078]: -- Executing System(Zap/4-1, mime-construct --to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --subject Fax from 0 --attachment 0.pdf --type application/pdf --file /var/spool/asterisk/fax/1112889947.49.tif.pdf) in new stack Apr 7 18:07:24 WARNING[2078]: Unable to execute 'mime-construct --to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --subject Fax from 0 --attachment 0.pdf --type application/pdf --file /var/spool/asterisk/fax/1112889947.49.tif.pdf' --- I have looked at the sample construct for this in http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+Fax and all appears to be ok. Also, the fax when viewed with acroread (.pdf)or eog (.tif) is only half completed, in some cases totally unreadable. I am assuming this may have something to do with the fax bitrate, but I can`t see where/how I can set this variable. I have looked at apps_rxfax.c, the various conf files in /etc/asterisk, but have not found anything yet. Still gooogling...but if anyone has any ideas/hints I would appreciate them. Regards -- Chris Blake Cell: 082 775 1492 Work: +27 11 782 0840 Fax : +27 11 782 0841 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The difference between reality and unreality is that reality has so little to recommend it. -- Allan Sherman ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] fax to email
Good day all I have a pri card,e100 What I want to do is If a fax comes in for number 1234567890 it should be e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] If a fax comes in for number 0987654321 it should be e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ens Can this be done and how ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] fax to email
On January 6, 2005 06:55 am, Altus Snyman wrote: Good day all I have a pri card,e100 What I want to do is If a fax comes in for number 1234567890 it should be e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] If a fax comes in for number 0987654321 it should be e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ens Yup it's easy. There are examples of how to effectively deal with faxes on www.voip-info.org, and then you just combine the macro given there with some extension magic like this: exten = 1234567890,1,Macro(receive-fax,[EMAIL PROTECTED]) exten = 0987654321,1,Macro(receive-fax,[EMAIL PROTECTED]) etc. Or you could have the receive-fax macro look up the email address from the extension received... something like exten = 1234567890,1,Macro(receive-fax,${EXTEN}) and then inside the macro, something like exten = s,n,DBGet(EMAILTO,${ARG1}) ... exten = s,n,system(sendmail ${EMAILTO}, ${FAXFILENAME}) These are just pseudocode examples -- you need to look at the receive-fax macro from www.voip-info.org or even http://scottstuff.net/scott/archives/000152.html (found with google terms receive fax asterisk), although the latter needs a little updating to work with current Asterisk. Also note that app_rxfax is *VERY* touchy about the version of the library libtiff that is on your system. This is not an app_rxfax problem, libtiff has some bugs when dealing with fax images in certain versions. Follow the directions for building app_rxfax and spandsp very carefully, as they are rather rigid. I used to have segfault issues all the time with app_rxfax -- I have now received well over a thousand faxes without a single crash. -A. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] fax to email
and email-fax?? The other way around On Thu, 2005-01-06 at 14:17, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: On January 6, 2005 06:55 am, Altus Snyman wrote: Good day all I have a pri card,e100 What I want to do is If a fax comes in for number 1234567890 it should be e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] If a fax comes in for number 0987654321 it should be e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ens Yup it's easy. There are examples of how to effectively deal with faxes on www.voip-info.org, and then you just combine the macro given there with some extension magic like this: exten = 1234567890,1,Macro(receive-fax,[EMAIL PROTECTED]) exten = 0987654321,1,Macro(receive-fax,[EMAIL PROTECTED]) etc. Or you could have the receive-fax macro look up the email address from the extension received... something like exten = 1234567890,1,Macro(receive-fax,${EXTEN}) and then inside the macro, something like exten = s,n,DBGet(EMAILTO,${ARG1}) ... exten = s,n,system(sendmail ${EMAILTO}, ${FAXFILENAME}) These are just pseudocode examples -- you need to look at the receive-fax macro from www.voip-info.org or even http://scottstuff.net/scott/archives/000152.html (found with google terms receive fax asterisk), although the latter needs a little updating to work with current Asterisk. Also note that app_rxfax is *VERY* touchy about the version of the library libtiff that is on your system. This is not an app_rxfax problem, libtiff has some bugs when dealing with fax images in certain versions. Follow the directions for building app_rxfax and spandsp very carefully, as they are rather rigid. I used to have segfault issues all the time with app_rxfax -- I have now received well over a thousand faxes without a single crash. -A. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] fax to email
Altus Snyman wrote: and email-fax?? The other way around You can run a simple mail server on the * box to accept emails addressed to the .fax domain (i.e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]). This presumes you are able to forward the .fax domain from your main mail server to the * box. Once you have the email at the * box, it is a simple matter to convert the .ps or .pdf attachment to .tiff and send it to the fax machine. This method requires that the user convert the document to .ps or .pdf before attaching it to the email. The second method is print-to-fax. This requires the configuration of a Samba printer on the * box. Using the print function in MS Office (Word, Excel, etc.) client, the user would print a document to the printer. At the Samba interface, the .ps document would be captured, converted to .tiff, and sent. This method requires that the user embed the cover sheet, including the fax number into the document. The third method is to give your users a Windows printer plug-in that would send the cover sheet information along with the document (I'm working on this as we speak). This plug-in allows the user to send an address book entry along with the document, and the address book information is then used to compose the cover sheet. Cheers, -- Michael Welter Introspect Telephony Corp. Denver, Colorado US +1.303.674.2575 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.introspect.com ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] fax to email
How do I fax a .tiff file with asterisk? On Thu, 2005-01-06 at 15:13, Michael Welter wrote: Altus Snyman wrote: and email-fax?? The other way around You can run a simple mail server on the * box to accept emails addressed to the .fax domain (i.e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]). This presumes you are able to forward the .fax domain from your main mail server to the * box. Once you have the email at the * box, it is a simple matter to convert the .ps or .pdf attachment to .tiff and send it to the fax machine. This method requires that the user convert the document to .ps or .pdf before attaching it to the email. The second method is print-to-fax. This requires the configuration of a Samba printer on the * box. Using the print function in MS Office (Word, Excel, etc.) client, the user would print a document to the printer. At the Samba interface, the .ps document would be captured, converted to .tiff, and sent. This method requires that the user embed the cover sheet, including the fax number into the document. The third method is to give your users a Windows printer plug-in that would send the cover sheet information along with the document (I'm working on this as we speak). This plug-in allows the user to send an address book entry along with the document, and the address book information is then used to compose the cover sheet. Cheers, ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] fax to email
Altus Snyman wrote: How do I fax a .tiff file with asterisk? Use Steve Underwood's spandsp library and TxFax function in Asterisk. See http://opencall.org -- Michael Welter Introspect Telephony Corp. Denver, Colorado US +1.303.674.2575 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.introspect.com ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] fax to email
Michael Welter wrote: How do I fax a .tiff file with asterisk? [..] Use Steve Underwood's spandsp library and TxFax function in Asterisk. See http://opencall.org It is my understanding that TxFAX does not allow to callout and send a fax, but to be used in Faxpickup only. Do you have it working in the manner you described, and if yes, could you update the Wiki, or share your setup here? Thanks. -- Best regards Peer Oliver Schmidt the internet company ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] fax to email
Peer Oliver Schmidt wrote: Michael Welter wrote: How do I fax a .tiff file with asterisk? [..] Use Steve Underwood's spandsp library and TxFax function in Asterisk. See http://opencall.org It is my understanding that TxFAX does not allow to callout and send a fax, but to be used in Faxpickup only. Why would anyone implement something as dumb as that? I didn't :-) Do you have it working in the manner you described, and if yes, could you update the Wiki, or share your setup here? Many people have it working that way. Very few people use it for fax pickup. To change it from answerer to originator mode you just need to add the caller option when you call txfax. Regards, Steve ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] fax to email
Steve, It is my understanding that TxFAX does not allow to callout and send a fax, but to be used in Faxpickup only. Why would anyone implement something as dumb as that? I didn't :-) Great :-) Do you have it working in the manner you described, and if yes, could you update the Wiki, or share your setup here? Many people have it working that way. Very few people use it for fax pickup. To change it from answerer to originator mode you just need to add the caller option when you call txfax. I asked my asterisk for the command and does not show anything regarding what to put into options. Is it save to assume, that to send a fax to 415-555-1234 the correct statement would be: TxFAX(myfax.tiff|caller=411234) ? Thanks -- Best regards Peer Oliver Schmidt the internet company ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] fax to email
You can run a simple mail server on the * box to accept emails addressed to the .fax domain (i.e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]). This presumes you are Got documentation on setting this up? The second method is print-to-fax. This requires the configuration of a Samba printer on the * box. Using the print function in MS Office Got documentation on setting this up? The third method is to give your users a Windows printer plug-in that would send the cover sheet information along with the document (I'm working on this as we speak). Guess I'll have to wait for documentation on this until the plug-in in done. -Matthew ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] fax to email
On Thu, 2005-01-06 at 09:19 -0600, Matthew Boehm wrote: You can run a simple mail server on the * box to accept emails addressed to the .fax domain (i.e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]). This presumes you are Got documentation on setting this up? I'm getting round it at the moment using Hylafax and an external modem to send, obviously on POTS, on the ADSL line. Spandsp picks up incoming faxes and emails them on. I've had to install libtiff 3.7 and 3.6.1 to get it going. With so many fax/modems rotting in the cupboard it seemed the easy way out. -- Dave Cotton [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] fax to email
Matthew Boehm wrote: You can run a simple mail server on the * box to accept emails addressed to the .fax domain (i.e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]). This presumes you are Got documentation on setting this up? Nope, I'm not in the documentation business. But you can go right down to your local book store and find many books on email systems. Try The qmail Handbook by Dave Sill. The second method is print-to-fax. This requires the configuration of a Samba printer on the * box. Using the print function in MS Office Got documentation on setting this up? Nope, I'm not in the documentation business. But you can go right down to your local bookstore and find many books on Samba. Try The Official Samba-3 HOWTO by Bruce Perens. The third method is to give your users a Windows printer plug-in that would send the cover sheet information along with the document (I'm working on this as we speak). Guess I'll have to wait for documentation on this until the plug-in in done. Guess so. But you can go right down to your local computer store, purchase VB, and then write your own plug-in. Or, instead of waiting around for someone else to do it for you, you could try it yourself. If you show a little effort on your part then maybe, just maybe, someone on this list might help you. Mike -- Michael Welter Introspect Telephony Corp. Denver, Colorado US +1.303.674.2575 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.introspect.com ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] fax to email
Has anybody looked into implementing a fax send interface for Asterisk using the FSP code, that way it would plug straight into outlook and all the other windows bits'n'pieces? The information contained in this email is intended for the personal and confidential use of the addressee only. It may also be privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient then you are hereby notified that you have received this document in error and that any review, distribution or copying of this document is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify Brendata immediately on: +44 (0)1268 466100, or email '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Brendata (UK) Ltd Nevendon Hall, Nevendon Road, Basildon, Essex. SS13 1BX UK Registered Office as above. Registered in England No. 2764339 See our current vacancies at www.brendata.co.uk ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] fax to email
On January 6, 2005 07:24 am, Altus Snyman wrote: and email-fax?? The other way around That's not what you'd originally asked, but what's wrong with taking an attachment, using ps2tiff or something and faxing it out with app_txfax? -A. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] fax to email
Nope, I'm not in the documentation business. But you can go right down to your local book store and find many books on email systems. Try The qmail Handbook by Dave Sill. So this book will tell me exactly how to setup where if it gets an email from (ie [EMAIL PROTECTED]) that it passes it to Hylafax/Asterisk? Nope, I'm not in the documentation business. But you can go right down to your local bookstore and find many books on Samba. Try The Official Samba-3 HOWTO by Bruce Perens So this book will tell me exactly how to configure samba to send a print spool to Hylafax/Asterisk? Guess so. But you can go right down to your local computer store, purchase VB, and then write your own plug-in. Sorry, I don't use cheezy event driven languages. If you show a little effort on your part then maybe, just maybe, someone on this list might help you. I beg your pardon. I help people on this list everyday and I don't need you telling me to be more helpful. Plus, the same thing can be said for you right since you are not in the documentation business. Done with this, -Matthew ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] fax to email
Guess so. But you can go right down to your local computer store, purchase VB, and then write your own plug-in. Sorry, I don't use cheezy event driven languages. Event driven is cheezy? Cheezy? When was the last time you clicked your mouse? I suppose you poll for mouse clicks... I beg your pardon. I help people on this list everyday and I don't need you telling me to be more helpful. Plus, the same thing can be said for you right since you are not in the documentation business. Where did I tell you to be more helpful? What I said was that if you demonstrated a little more initiative (and a little less sarcasm) then the members of this list would be more inclined to help you. Mike -- Michael Welter Introspect Telephony Corp. Denver, Colorado US +1.303.674.2575 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.introspect.com ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] fax to email
This mail is in by no way a attempt to meddle. ok? Email to eg. txfax: --- If you are using sendmail, implement a ruleset that will forward all local mail for the toplevel domain .fax to a script. How to do this you will find in O'Reileys big sendmail book. It is important that the mail to the .fax domain is passing through your mailserver. In sendmail this is implemented by using the smarthost directive. How to write the script can be found in the voip-info wiki. Something like converting the mail to tiff. ascii2ps - ps2tiff or something like that. Then you create a asterisk call file to send the fax. Another way to do this would be to send the mail to a user [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( or whatever your asterisk server is called) Put the destination phonenumber in the subject line. Use an sendmail alias to forward all mail to user fax to the script. Eg: fax: |/bin/sendfax or something like that. (man aliases) Print to fax - O'reillys book on samba has information on smbfax. Otherwise it is easy to find information on this on google. The problem when you are printing is to get the destination phonenumber to the fax software. But as far i remember it is quite well dokumented, in the book or on the web. http://inconnu.isu.edu/~ink/new/projects/smbfax/ I'we implemented both of these cases a fews year ago, so it can be done. The third case was howto get the coversheet filled in. I think i used smbfax printing to a file and then seding the user an email with a link to a html form where he could fill in the cover sheet information, look at the tiff-file and then click ok to send the fax. Best regards Nils On Thu, 6 Jan 2005, Matthew Boehm wrote: Nope, I'm not in the documentation business. But you can go right down to your local book store and find many books on email systems. Try The qmail Handbook by Dave Sill. So this book will tell me exactly how to setup where if it gets an email from (ie [EMAIL PROTECTED]) that it passes it to Hylafax/Asterisk? Nope, I'm not in the documentation business. But you can go right down to your local bookstore and find many books on Samba. Try The Official Samba-3 HOWTO by Bruce Perens So this book will tell me exactly how to configure samba to send a print spool to Hylafax/Asterisk? Guess so. But you can go right down to your local computer store, purchase VB, and then write your own plug-in. Sorry, I don't use cheezy event driven languages. If you show a little effort on your part then maybe, just maybe, someone on this list might help you. I beg your pardon. I help people on this list everyday and I don't need you telling me to be more helpful. Plus, the same thing can be said for you right since you are not in the documentation business. Done with this, -Matthew ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users Nils Segerdahl --- Upsala Systemkonsult, UPSYS AB Telefon:(+46) (0)18 56 80 41 Glunten, 751 83 UppsalaMobil: (+46) (0)703 55 65 03 http://www.upsys.seFax: (+46) (0)18 56 80 49 --- Jan 6 Millard Fillmore's birthday (let's party!) --- ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax via email
Darren Nickerson wrote: The last time I checked on a big FAX server, only a few percent of the calls used anything but basic 9600bps non-ECM operation. When I look in the shops, hardly any of the FAX machines - other than the low selling high end laser models - support anything fancy. If you are dealing purely with FAXes between big companies, most of the machines you encounter probably support the fancy features. In the general case, they don't. What can I say? That's not our reality. Every little HP OfficeJet el-cheapo multifunction inkjet device does ECM, MMR and V.34 (up to 33.6) speed faxing these days. That's reflected in a large number of greater than 14,400 speed connections (typically 28.8). They're not considered bells and whistles .. they're just standard. I spent half an hour looking around the web, and it seems we are both wrong. The truth lies somewhere between our statements. :-) The last info I got from a large FAX server is about a year old. It seems after several years of nothing much changing, FAX has suddenly taken a step up - kind of sad it should improve now it is obsolete :-) The low end fax machines from the biggest supplier of all - Sharp - are 9600 non-correcting machines. Some other makers - Canon, HP, etc - start at 14,400 now. The low end monochrome OfficeJets are only 14400, but do appear to have error correction (the web site info is not entirely clear about the error correction part). However, you don't need to go far up the range to get a 33.6k modem. The 33.6k feature has certainly spread considerably in the last year or two. Regards, Steve ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Fax via email
You may want to take a look t.38, t.39 which are the fax/ip/smtp standards. If Asterisk could be made to do this, then it would join the mainstream and inter-op with cisco gw's and such handling this sort of thing automagically for the billions of voice/fax minutes served. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin P. Fleming Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 00:33 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax via email Steve Underwood wrote: If you want to FAX over IP you need to be *very* careful if you want it to be reliable. You cannot use anything other than A-law or u-law as the codec. However, even using those, any data slips will kill the FAX operation. If the two boxes are on the same LAN it tends to work OK. Yes, I would think that this sort of application would be either local LAN or _extremely_ low latency WAN connections only, and probably not use audio compression at all. If you can't handle a few 64kb/s streams of audio for your FAXing application, then you have other problems to worry about :-) I mean CPU loading. HylaFAX only does 1D coding (unless that changed very recently) and the ECM is brand new. The features you list may be a lot less well tested than you think. :-) Also, only a tiny fraction of FAX machines can even support ECM. As mentioned in the other replies, these are no longer true statements as of HylaFAX 4.2.0 (which is not yet released, but very close). And putting the virtual modem client and HylaFAX on a separate box from Asterisk should eliminate CPU consumption concerns, I'd think. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Scanned for viruses and dangerous content at http://www.oneunified.net and is believed to be clean. -- Scanned for viruses and dangerous content at http://www.oneunified.net and is believed to be clean. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax via email
Maybe not. However, if the user is primarily interested in fax to email then Hylafax can do that very well. A PBX is not an essential part of a fax solution for many. Iain --On Tuesday, June 8, 2004 8:46 am +0800 Steve Underwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Iain, Your response seems to indicate that you don't know what HylaFAX and spandsp actually do :-) Regards, Steve Iain Stevenson wrote: ... might as well use hylafax. Iain --On Monday, June 7, 2004 2:15 pm +0100 Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all. I'm looking to set up a fax via email service so that users can email a specific mailbox and receive fax's to a specific mailbox. Can this be done? I've had a look an SpanDSP and I think that's what I want but I'm not sure. Cheers Matt ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Fax via email
I'm more interested in email to fax in as much as a user could send a specifically formed email to a specific address and it be picked up and faxed out. Similarly; inbound faxes being transformed into an email. Matt -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Iain Stevenson Sent: 08 June 2004 09:10 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax via email Maybe not. However, if the user is primarily interested in fax to email then Hylafax can do that very well. A PBX is not an essential part of a fax solution for many. Iain --On Tuesday, June 8, 2004 8:46 am +0800 Steve Underwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Iain, Your response seems to indicate that you don't know what HylaFAX and spandsp actually do :-) Regards, Steve Iain Stevenson wrote: ... might as well use hylafax. Iain --On Monday, June 7, 2004 2:15 pm +0100 Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all. I'm looking to set up a fax via email service so that users can email a specific mailbox and receive fax's to a specific mailbox. Can this be done? I've had a look an SpanDSP and I think that's what I want but I'm not sure. Cheers Matt ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Fax via email
.. Hylafax does that too. Iain --On Tuesday, June 8, 2004 9:15 am +0100 Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm more interested in email to fax in as much as a user could send a specifically formed email to a specific address and it be picked up and faxed out. Similarly; inbound faxes being transformed into an email. Matt -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Iain Stevenson Sent: 08 June 2004 09:10 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax via email Maybe not. However, if the user is primarily interested in fax to email then Hylafax can do that very well. A PBX is not an essential part of a fax solution for many. Iain --On Tuesday, June 8, 2004 8:46 am +0800 Steve Underwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Iain, Your response seems to indicate that you don't know what HylaFAX and spandsp actually do :-) Regards, Steve Iain Stevenson wrote: ... might as well use hylafax. Iain --On Monday, June 7, 2004 2:15 pm +0100 Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all. I'm looking to set up a fax via email service so that users can email a specific mailbox and receive fax's to a specific mailbox. Can this be done? I've had a look an SpanDSP and I think that's what I want but I'm not sure. Cheers Matt ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax via email
Kevin P. Fleming wrote: Steve Underwood wrote: spandsp doesn't try to reimplement all of HylaFAX. It reimplements only one piece - the T.4/T.30 code. I have a half implemented spandsp as class 1 fax modem which I put aside. People are using spandsp happily for things like fax to e-mail. Introducing HylaFAX would really slow things down. That said, I'd really like to complete the class 1 modem interface, and make HylaFAX an option for people. Well, I was thinking of HylaFAX running on another box, with some type of IAX2 virtual FAX modem client running on the same machine, using IAX2 to communicate to Asterisk. That would remove the CPU usage from the Asterisk box and put it where it belongs. If you want to FAX over IP you need to be *very* careful if you want it to be reliable. You cannot use anything other than A-law or u-law as the codec. However, even using those, any data slips will kill the FAX operation. If the two boxes are on the same LAN it tends to work OK. I'm curious how you think HylaFAX would really slow things down, if you mean something other that CPU usage? I'd see adding HylaFAX to the mix as adding well-tested and reliable ECM, MR, MMR and other protocol support on top of the virtual modem you've already implemented, as well as supporting alternative FAX origination methods (email, print, etc.). I mean CPU loading. HylaFAX only does 1D coding (unless that changed very recently) and the ECM is brand new. The features you list may be a lot less well tested than you think. :-) Also, only a tiny fraction of FAX machines can even support ECM. Regards, Steve ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax via email
I mean CPU loading. HylaFAX only does 1D coding (unless that changed very recently) and the ECM is brand new. The features you list may be a lot less well tested than you think. :-) Also, only a tiny fraction of FAX machines can even support ECM. Steve, HylaFAX supports 1D MH, 2D MR, and 2D MMR. ECM is new in HylaFAX, but already seems more robust than the implementation one finds in most consumer-grade data+fax modems. As for the tiny fraction that support ECM... well if tiny fraction means damn near most of 'em, then I'd say you're about right. Heck, 30-40% of them even support V.34 these days (for which ECM and MMR are prerequisites). Our customer send and recieve hundreds of thousands of faxes daily, and the great majority of them are ECM error-corrected. I'll admit, these numbers are more representative of the US and Europe than other regions, but still, 'tiny fraction' is underselling it just a wee bit ;-) -Darren -- Darren Nickerson Senior Sales Support Engineer iFax Solutions, Inc. www.ifax.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1.215.438.4638 +1.215.243.8335 (fax) ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax via email
Darren Nickerson wrote: Steve, HylaFAX supports 1D MH, 2D MR, and 2D MMR. The last time I looked (a few months ago) it supported those file formats, but only supported 1D transfers on the wire. ECM is new in HylaFAX, but already seems more robust than the implementation one finds in most consumer-grade data+fax modems. As for the tiny fraction that support ECM... well if tiny fraction means damn near most of 'em, then I'd say you're about right. Heck, 30-40% of them even support V.34 these days (for which ECM and MMR are prerequisites). Our customer send and recieve hundreds of thousands of faxes daily, and the great majority of them are ECM error-corrected. The last time I checked on a big FAX server, only a few percent of the calls used anything but basic 9600bps non-ECM operation. When I look in the shops, hardly any of the FAX machines - other than the low selling high end laser models - support anything fancy. If you are dealing purely with FAXes between big companies, most of the machines you encounter probably support the fancy features. In the general case, they don't. I'll admit, these numbers are more representative of the US and Europe than other regions, but still, 'tiny fraction' is underselling it just a wee bit ;-) Asia is generally ahead of Europe and the US in buying fancy telecoms kit. However, our much higher penetration of broadband is probably killing FAX more quickly here. :-) Regards, Steve ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax via email
The last time I checked on a big FAX server, only a few percent of the calls used anything but basic 9600bps non-ECM operation. When I look in the shops, hardly any of the FAX machines - other than the low selling high end laser models - support anything fancy. If you are dealing purely with FAXes between big companies, most of the machines you encounter probably support the fancy features. In the general case, they don't. What can I say? That's not our reality. Every little HP OfficeJet el-cheapo multifunction inkjet device does ECM, MMR and V.34 (up to 33.6) speed faxing these days. That's reflected in a large number of greater than 14,400 speed connections (typically 28.8). They're not considered bells and whistles .. they're just standard. -Darren -- Darren Nickerson Senior Sales Support Engineer iFax Solutions, Inc. www.ifax.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1.215.438.4638 +1.215.243.8335 (fax) ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax via email
Steve Underwood wrote: If you want to FAX over IP you need to be *very* careful if you want it to be reliable. You cannot use anything other than A-law or u-law as the codec. However, even using those, any data slips will kill the FAX operation. If the two boxes are on the same LAN it tends to work OK. Yes, I would think that this sort of application would be either local LAN or _extremely_ low latency WAN connections only, and probably not use audio compression at all. If you can't handle a few 64kb/s streams of audio for your FAXing application, then you have other problems to worry about :-) I mean CPU loading. HylaFAX only does 1D coding (unless that changed very recently) and the ECM is brand new. The features you list may be a lot less well tested than you think. :-) Also, only a tiny fraction of FAX machines can even support ECM. As mentioned in the other replies, these are no longer true statements as of HylaFAX 4.2.0 (which is not yet released, but very close). And putting the virtual modem client and HylaFAX on a separate box from Asterisk should eliminate CPU consumption concerns, I'd think. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax via email
Darren Nickerson wrote: What can I say? That's not our reality. Every little HP OfficeJet el-cheapo multifunction inkjet device does ECM, MMR and V.34 (up to 33.6) speed faxing these days. That's reflected in a large number of greater than 14,400 speed connections (typically 28.8). They're not considered bells and whistles .. they're just standard. I can echo Darren's comments here, even though I don't have anywhere near as large installations to support as he does :-) Even my smallest installation regularly sees 2D MMR and speeds well over 14,400 using HylaFAX CVS code (4.2.0 beta) and driving the modem in Class 1 mode. These under $100 HP inkjet FAX/copy/scan/toast/jam/peanut butter/window washing machines implement pretty much everything FAX-wise, except color. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] Fax via email
Hi all. I'm looking to set up a fax via email service so that users can email a specific mailbox and receive fax's to a specific mailbox. Can this be done? I've had a look an SpanDSP and I think that's what I want but I'm not sure. Cheers Matt ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax via email
... might as well use hylafax. Iain --On Monday, June 7, 2004 2:15 pm +0100 Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all. I'm looking to set up a fax via email service so that users can email a specific mailbox and receive fax's to a specific mailbox. Can this be done? I've had a look an SpanDSP and I think that's what I want but I'm not sure. Cheers Matt ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax via email
Iain Stevenson wrote: ... might as well use hylafax. Yes, well, that requires using modems and having Asterisk send the audio back in/out as analog. It would be really fantastic if someone could come up with an app for Asterisk that emulated a Class 1 FAX modem and allowed Hylafax to talk to it (on a virtual extension number), rather than trying to reimplement all of Hylafax in SpanDSP. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax via email
Hi Iain, Your response seems to indicate that you don't know what HylaFAX and spandsp actually do :-) Regards, Steve Iain Stevenson wrote: ... might as well use hylafax. Iain --On Monday, June 7, 2004 2:15 pm +0100 Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all. I'm looking to set up a fax via email service so that users can email a specific mailbox and receive fax's to a specific mailbox. Can this be done? I've had a look an SpanDSP and I think that's what I want but I'm not sure. Cheers Matt ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax via email
Kevin P. Fleming wrote: Iain Stevenson wrote: ... might as well use hylafax. Yes, well, that requires using modems and having Asterisk send the audio back in/out as analog. It would be really fantastic if someone could come up with an app for Asterisk that emulated a Class 1 FAX modem and allowed Hylafax to talk to it (on a virtual extension number), rather than trying to reimplement all of Hylafax in SpanDSP. spandsp doesn't try to reimplement all of HylaFAX. It reimplements only one piece - the T.4/T.30 code. I have a half implemented spandsp as class 1 fax modem which I put aside. People are using spandsp happily for things like fax to e-mail. Introducing HylaFAX would really slow things down. That said, I'd really like to complete the class 1 modem interface, and make HylaFAX an option for people. Regards, Steve ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax via email
Steve Underwood wrote: spandsp doesn't try to reimplement all of HylaFAX. It reimplements only one piece - the T.4/T.30 code. I have a half implemented spandsp as class 1 fax modem which I put aside. People are using spandsp happily for things like fax to e-mail. Introducing HylaFAX would really slow things down. That said, I'd really like to complete the class 1 modem interface, and make HylaFAX an option for people. Well, I was thinking of HylaFAX running on another box, with some type of IAX2 virtual FAX modem client running on the same machine, using IAX2 to communicate to Asterisk. That would remove the CPU usage from the Asterisk box and put it where it belongs. I'm curious how you think HylaFAX would really slow things down, if you mean something other that CPU usage? I'd see adding HylaFAX to the mix as adding well-tested and reliable ECM, MR, MMR and other protocol support on top of the virtual modem you've already implemented, as well as supporting alternative FAX origination methods (email, print, etc.). ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users