Re: [asterisk-users] 'Traditional' Faxing

[Shawn Henderson]

Depending on how many faxes you have coming in a simple fxs/fxo card 
will do the trick .. either Sagnoma or Digium or any others you could 
also use any decent ATA.. Asterisk only needs to know its a fax and what 
dialed number it came on to route it to the correct fax machine. 
Asterisk would just act as a pass thru..
Greg Cockburn wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> the company I work for has an aging Digital PBX attached to an E1.
>
> This PBX has a few analogue lines, one of which we use a 'traditional' 
> fax machine on.
>
> I want to upgrade our PBX and Asterisk is almost a perfect fit.
>
> The only problem I can't seem to find a working solution for is Faxing.
>
> I don't want to use Hylafax or other similar methodologies.
>
> I believe there maybe someway to bridge an Analogue FXS port to a 
> channel on the E1?
>
> Basically I want to mimic what we have now.
>
> 1. Any person can send a fax using the fax machine, and the PBX picks 
> the next free channel on the E1.
>
> 2. A fax call can come over any channel on the E1, and the dialed 
> number is matched and sent to the analogue FXS port of the PBX to be 
> received by the fax machine.
>
> Is there anyway I can do this in Asterisk that will work seamlessly?
>
> I have not yet purchased any hardware, so recommendations would be 
> greatly appreciated.
> (I believe some of the problem exists due to timing, does any 
> hardware; E1 card / Analogue card; support linking a timing signal 
> together?)
> Sangoma, Digium, Pika?
>
> Thanks all for any help on this one.
> Greg.
>
>
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Re: [asterisk-users] 'Traditional' Faxing

[Klaverstyn, David C]

I am also very interested in these scripts.

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From: "Jonn R Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 5:45 PM
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> Greg Cockburn wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> the company I work for has an aging Digital PBX attached to an E1.
>>
>> This PBX has a few analogue lines, one of which we use a
'traditional'
>> fax machine on.
>>
>> I want to upgrade our PBX and Asterisk is almost a perfect fit.
>>
>> The only problem I can't seem to find a working solution for is
Faxing.
>>
>> I don't want to use Hylafax or other similar methodologies.
>>
>> I believe there maybe someway to bridge an Analogue FXS port to a
>> channel on the E1?
>>
>> Basically I want to mimic what we have now.
>>
>> 1. Any person can send a fax using the fax machine, and the PBX picks
>> the next free channel on the E1.
>>
>> 2. A fax call can come over any channel on the E1, and the dialed
number
>> is matched and sent to the analogue FXS port of the PBX to be
received
>> by the fax machine.
>>
>> Is there anyway I can do this in Asterisk that will work seamlessly?
>>
>> I have not yet purchased any hardware, so recommendations would be
>> greatly appreciated.
>> (I believe some of the problem exists due to timing, does any
hardware;
>> E1 card / Analogue card; support linking a timing signal together?)
>> Sangoma, Digium, Pika?
>>
>> Thanks all for any help on this one.
>> Greg.
>>
>>
>>

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> Greg,
>
> There are alot of option for handeling faxes. One is to use iaxmodem
and
> hylafax. This option works the best. You can try to use an analog
> adapter or card to connect a conventional fax to but this is not
allways
> reliable. I have spent alot of time working on faxing with asterisk.
If
> you need any help you can email me and I will send the links and
scripts
> that I have to help you in your setup. FYI, They are all for
RH/CentOS.
>
> Hardware, how many phone and trunks do you plan on using? Digium cards
> for analog phone's and faxes work very well, linksys makes very good
> ATA's too. Digium or Sangoma T1 cards are the most suppoted that I
have
> seen. but there are others.
>
> OS, there are alot of different *nix OS's that are out there. Pick the
> one that you are the most comfortable to use. Asterisk was developed
on
> RedHat though. Depending on your needs for support I would suggest
> either EL4 or CentOS4 with Asterisk 1.2. There are alot of people
> running 1.4 in production but the commercaial version of Asterisk is
> still on 1.2
>
>

John,
Do you mind posting a link to those CentOS scripts here ?

Thanks.

Dovid 



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Re: [asterisk-users] 'Traditional' Faxing

[Dovid B]

- Original Message - 
From: "Jonn R Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion" 

Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 5:45 PM
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] 'Traditional' Faxing


> Greg Cockburn wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> the company I work for has an aging Digital PBX attached to an E1.
>>
>> This PBX has a few analogue lines, one of which we use a 'traditional'
>> fax machine on.
>>
>> I want to upgrade our PBX and Asterisk is almost a perfect fit.
>>
>> The only problem I can't seem to find a working solution for is Faxing.
>>
>> I don't want to use Hylafax or other similar methodologies.
>>
>> I believe there maybe someway to bridge an Analogue FXS port to a
>> channel on the E1?
>>
>> Basically I want to mimic what we have now.
>>
>> 1. Any person can send a fax using the fax machine, and the PBX picks
>> the next free channel on the E1.
>>
>> 2. A fax call can come over any channel on the E1, and the dialed number
>> is matched and sent to the analogue FXS port of the PBX to be received
>> by the fax machine.
>>
>> Is there anyway I can do this in Asterisk that will work seamlessly?
>>
>> I have not yet purchased any hardware, so recommendations would be
>> greatly appreciated.
>> (I believe some of the problem exists due to timing, does any hardware;
>> E1 card / Analogue card; support linking a timing signal together?)
>> Sangoma, Digium, Pika?
>>
>> Thanks all for any help on this one.
>> Greg.
>>
>>
>> 
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> Greg,
>
> There are alot of option for handeling faxes. One is to use iaxmodem and
> hylafax. This option works the best. You can try to use an analog
> adapter or card to connect a conventional fax to but this is not allways
> reliable. I have spent alot of time working on faxing with asterisk. If
> you need any help you can email me and I will send the links and scripts
> that I have to help you in your setup. FYI, They are all for RH/CentOS.
>
> Hardware, how many phone and trunks do you plan on using? Digium cards
> for analog phone's and faxes work very well, linksys makes very good
> ATA's too. Digium or Sangoma T1 cards are the most suppoted that I have
> seen. but there are others.
>
> OS, there are alot of different *nix OS's that are out there. Pick the
> one that you are the most comfortable to use. Asterisk was developed on
> RedHat though. Depending on your needs for support I would suggest
> either EL4 or CentOS4 with Asterisk 1.2. There are alot of people
> running 1.4 in production but the commercaial version of Asterisk is
> still on 1.2
>
>

John,
Do you mind posting a link to those CentOS scripts here ?

Thanks.

Dovid 



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Re: [asterisk-users] 'Traditional' Faxing

[Andrew Kohlsmith]

On Monday 12 November 2007 07:54:42 Dave Fullerton wrote:
>  From what I've heard, I think your best bet is to buy a multi-port
> T1/E1 card for asterisk, put your E1 in one port and a channel bank in
> the other port, then plug your fax extension into an FXS port on the
> channel bank. Since both legs of the call pass through the same E1
> interface card asterisk can bridge the call on the card itself and the
> timing issue should become moot. I have not done this nor have any
> hands-on experience to share, but I have done some research into this in
> the past. This is also the method Fonality recommends for customers of
> their asterisk based system:

That is exactly what I do in my systems.  I did have success with a 
TDM400<-->T100P but that was a long time ago and I was unable to repeat it 
recently.  I didn't spend a whole lot of time on it, though.

-A.

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Re: [asterisk-users] 'Traditional' Faxing

[Doug Lytle]

Dave Fullerton wrote:
>
> 
>
>  From what I've heard, I think your best bet is to buy a multi-port 
> T1/E1 card for asterisk, put your E1 in one port and a channel bank in 
> the other port, then plug your fax extension into an FXS port on the 
>   


This is what we do for our fax machines along with using iaxmodem and 
HylaFAX+  It just works(tm).

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Re: [asterisk-users] 'Traditional' Faxing

[Dave Fullerton]

Greg Cockburn wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> the company I work for has an aging Digital PBX attached to an E1.
> 
> This PBX has a few analogue lines, one of which we use a 'traditional' fax
> machine on.
> 
> I want to upgrade our PBX and Asterisk is almost a perfect fit.
> 
> The only problem I can't seem to find a working solution for is Faxing.
> 
> I don't want to use Hylafax or other similar methodologies.
> 
> I believe there maybe someway to bridge an Analogue FXS port to a channel on
> the E1?
> 
> Basically I want to mimic what we have now.
> 
> 1. Any person can send a fax using the fax machine, and the PBX picks the
> next free channel on the E1.
> 
> 2. A fax call can come over any channel on the E1, and the dialed number is
> matched and sent to the analogue FXS port of the PBX to be received by the
> fax machine.
> 
> Is there anyway I can do this in Asterisk that will work seamlessly?
> 


 From what I've heard, I think your best bet is to buy a multi-port 
T1/E1 card for asterisk, put your E1 in one port and a channel bank in 
the other port, then plug your fax extension into an FXS port on the 
channel bank. Since both legs of the call pass through the same E1 
interface card asterisk can bridge the call on the card itself and the 
timing issue should become moot. I have not done this nor have any 
hands-on experience to share, but I have done some research into this in 
the past. This is also the method Fonality recommends for customers of 
their asterisk based system:

http://help.fonality.com/index.php/Fax_Machine_and_Modem_Support_in_PBXtra

-Dave

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Re: [asterisk-users] 'Traditional' Faxing

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

As another suggested the Sangoma cards should work.

However we need someone to write a frontend to Steve Underwood's
wonderful spanDSP library. This will allow us a T38 gateway of sorts
meaning you can connect a Linksys ATA using T.38 and we can say that
(assuming your fax machine strictly complies with the relevant
standards) faxing will work with 100% reliability, thats a bit more
assuring that it "should work," no?

On Nov 10, 2007 7:34 AM, Greg Cockburn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> the company I work for has an aging Digital PBX attached to an E1.
>
> This PBX has a few analogue lines, one of which we use a 'traditional' fax
> machine on.
>
> I want to upgrade our PBX and Asterisk is almost a perfect fit.
>
> The only problem I can't seem to find a working solution for is Faxing.
>
> I don't want to use Hylafax or other similar methodologies.
>
> I believe there maybe someway to bridge an Analogue FXS port to a channel on
> the E1?
>
> Basically I want to mimic what we have now.
>
> 1. Any person can send a fax using the fax machine, and the PBX picks the
> next free channel on the E1.
>
> 2. A fax call can come over any channel on the E1, and the dialed number is
> matched and sent to the analogue FXS port of the PBX to be received by the
> fax machine.
>
> Is there anyway I can do this in Asterisk that will work seamlessly?
>
> I have not yet purchased any hardware, so recommendations would be greatly
> appreciated.
> (I believe some of the problem exists due to timing, does any hardware; E1
> card / Analogue card; support linking a timing signal together?)
> Sangoma, Digium, Pika?
>
> Thanks all for any help on this one.
> Greg.
>
>
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Re: [asterisk-users] 'Traditional' Faxing

[Per Jessen]

Jonn R Taylor wrote:

> There are alot of option for handeling faxes. One is to use iaxmodem
> and hylafax. This option works the best. 

Completely agree - we've been using such a setup for almost a year now. 


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Re: [asterisk-users] 'Traditional' Faxing

[Jonn R Taylor]

Greg Cockburn wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> the company I work for has an aging Digital PBX attached to an E1.
> 
> This PBX has a few analogue lines, one of which we use a 'traditional' 
> fax machine on.
> 
> I want to upgrade our PBX and Asterisk is almost a perfect fit.
> 
> The only problem I can't seem to find a working solution for is Faxing.
> 
> I don't want to use Hylafax or other similar methodologies.
> 
> I believe there maybe someway to bridge an Analogue FXS port to a 
> channel on the E1?
> 
> Basically I want to mimic what we have now.
> 
> 1. Any person can send a fax using the fax machine, and the PBX picks 
> the next free channel on the E1.
> 
> 2. A fax call can come over any channel on the E1, and the dialed number 
> is matched and sent to the analogue FXS port of the PBX to be received 
> by the fax machine.
> 
> Is there anyway I can do this in Asterisk that will work seamlessly?
> 
> I have not yet purchased any hardware, so recommendations would be 
> greatly appreciated.
> (I believe some of the problem exists due to timing, does any hardware; 
> E1 card / Analogue card; support linking a timing signal together?)
> Sangoma, Digium, Pika?
> 
> Thanks all for any help on this one.
> Greg.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Greg,

There are alot of option for handeling faxes. One is to use iaxmodem and 
hylafax. This option works the best. You can try to use an analog 
adapter or card to connect a conventional fax to but this is not allways 
reliable. I have spent alot of time working on faxing with asterisk. If 
you need any help you can email me and I will send the links and scripts 
that I have to help you in your setup. FYI, They are all for RH/CentOS.

Hardware, how many phone and trunks do you plan on using? Digium cards 
for analog phone's and faxes work very well, linksys makes very good 
ATA's too. Digium or Sangoma T1 cards are the most suppoted that I have 
seen. but there are others.

OS, there are alot of different *nix OS's that are out there. Pick the 
one that you are the most comfortable to use. Asterisk was developed on 
RedHat though. Depending on your needs for support I would suggest 
either EL4 or CentOS4 with Asterisk 1.2. There are alot of people 
running 1.4 in production but the commercaial version of Asterisk is 
still on 1.2


Jonn

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Re: [asterisk-users] 'Traditional' Faxing

[Gopal krishnan]

Hi,

 For that you need to purchase sangoma FXS card and connect your fax
machine in the fxs card. so that the fax machine will seems as an
extension for asterisk. whatever fax comes in it we can write a rule
where a fax nmber will reach the extension connected fax machine.

On Nov 10, 2007 6:04 PM, Greg Cockburn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> the company I work for has an aging Digital PBX attached to an E1.
>
> This PBX has a few analogue lines, one of which we use a 'traditional' fax
> machine on.
>
> I want to upgrade our PBX and Asterisk is almost a perfect fit.
>
> The only problem I can't seem to find a working solution for is Faxing.
>
> I don't want to use Hylafax or other similar methodologies.
>
> I believe there maybe someway to bridge an Analogue FXS port to a channel on
> the E1?
>
> Basically I want to mimic what we have now.
>
> 1. Any person can send a fax using the fax machine, and the PBX picks the
> next free channel on the E1.
>
> 2. A fax call can come over any channel on the E1, and the dialed number is
> matched and sent to the analogue FXS port of the PBX to be received by the
> fax machine.
>
> Is there anyway I can do this in Asterisk that will work seamlessly?
>
> I have not yet purchased any hardware, so recommendations would be greatly
> appreciated.
> (I believe some of the problem exists due to timing, does any hardware; E1
> card / Analogue card; support linking a timing signal together?)
> Sangoma, Digium, Pika?
>
> Thanks all for any help on this one.
> Greg.
>
>
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[asterisk-users] 'Traditional' Faxing

[Greg Cockburn]

Hi all,

the company I work for has an aging Digital PBX attached to an E1.

This PBX has a few analogue lines, one of which we use a 'traditional' fax
machine on.

I want to upgrade our PBX and Asterisk is almost a perfect fit.

The only problem I can't seem to find a working solution for is Faxing.

I don't want to use Hylafax or other similar methodologies.

I believe there maybe someway to bridge an Analogue FXS port to a channel on
the E1?

Basically I want to mimic what we have now.

1. Any person can send a fax using the fax machine, and the PBX picks the
next free channel on the E1.

2. A fax call can come over any channel on the E1, and the dialed number is
matched and sent to the analogue FXS port of the PBX to be received by the
fax machine.

Is there anyway I can do this in Asterisk that will work seamlessly?

I have not yet purchased any hardware, so recommendations would be greatly
appreciated.
(I believe some of the problem exists due to timing, does any hardware; E1
card / Analogue card; support linking a timing signal together?)
Sangoma, Digium, Pika?

Thanks all for any help on this one.
Greg.
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