Re: [asterisk-users] *End Of Life ASTERISK 1.2.X THEN AMP IS DEAD TOO!

2007-06-01 Thread Jaswinder Singh

Well freepbx runs fine with asterisk 1.4.4 ( atleast for me ) i think
some changes was introduced in 1.4 ( 1.4.4 ?)  for some backward
compatibility...  like show channels  now work in 1.4.4 instead of
core show channels but it gives a notice that 'show channels' is
deprecated bla bla .Freepbx works completely fine with asterisk 1.4
for me .


On 31/05/07, shadowym [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

If anything this should motivate the FreePBX developers a bit more.

-Original Message-
From: Jared Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 12:47 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] *End Of Life ASTERISK 1.2.X THEN AMP IS DEAD
TOO!

On 5/30/07, BSumrall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 AMP does not support 1.4 and will not until AMP 2.3 is released!

I'm sorry to hear you think our decision (I say our, as I was at the
Asterisk Developers' Conference where the decision was made) will kill the
AMP project.  Personally, I don't think the situation is as dire as you say.
I'm quite sure the AMP developers will step up to the plate and support
Asterisk 1.4 in due time.  When that will be I can't say, as I'm not active
in the AMP community. I can't image it would take that long to move over to
Asterisk 1.4, as the dialplan changes aren't *that* extensive between 1.2
and 1.4. (Obviously any code that ties into the internal C APIs of Asterisk
will take longer to port.)

 Bet you guys didn't think about that one!

Actually, we did.  As a matter of fact, I was *very* vocal at the conference
in stating that we needed to give users, integrators, and projects like AMP
a substantial warning before putting Asterisk 1.2 in security maintenance
mode, as they need time to react.

At the same time, I don't think anyone should expect the Asterisk developers
to base all their decisions completely on the timetables of outside projects
(like AMP).  There is a plethora of projects and programs out there that tie
into Asterisk, and if we as developers waited for every single one to move
over to Asterisk 1.4, we'd never accomplish anything.  There's simply a
finite set of resources (developers and bug marshalls in this case), and a
decision had to be made on how best to use those resources.  Personally, I
think it would be great if there were more communication between the outside
projects and the Asterisk developers, so that there isn't so much animosity
when decisions like this are made.

In short, the decision is probably going to cause some short-term discomfort
for some people, but I truly believe it's a good decision for the long-term
health and sanity of the Asterisk developers and Asterisk community in
general.  No, we're not trying to kill off AMP or any other outside project
-- we're trying to make Asterisk (and by extension, anything that uses or
adds on to Asterisk) as great as possible.

-Jared


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RE: [asterisk-users] *End Of Life ASTERISK 1.2.X THEN AMP IS DEAD TOO!

2007-05-30 Thread BSumrall
AMP does not support 1.4 and will not until AMP 2.3 is released!

 

Bet you guys didn't think about that one!

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RE: [asterisk-users] *End Of Life ASTERISK 1.2.X THEN AMP IS DEAD TOO!

2007-05-30 Thread Dean Collins
It's not that big a deal - some gui's or third party apps will move to
1.4 some will stay on 1.2

 

Personally unless there is some compelling reason to move it's makes
sense to stay on 1.2 until necessary or functions drive the change.

 

As for AMP staying on 1.2 - what are the real downsides to Asterisk in
that happening?

 

 

Regards,

Dean Collins
Cognation Pty Ltd
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+1-917-207-3420 Mb
+61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dial).

 



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DEAD TOO!

 

AMP does not support 1.4 and will not until AMP 2.3 is released!

 

Bet you guys didn't think about that one!

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Re: [asterisk-users] *End Of Life ASTERISK 1.2.X THEN AMP IS DEAD TOO!

2007-05-30 Thread Jared Smith

On 5/30/07, BSumrall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

AMP does not support 1.4 and will not until AMP 2.3 is released!


I'm sorry to hear you think our decision (I say our, as I was at the
Asterisk Developers' Conference where the decision was made) will kill
the AMP project.  Personally, I don't think the situation is as dire
as you say.  I'm quite sure the AMP developers will step up to the
plate and support Asterisk 1.4 in due time.  When that will be I can't
say, as I'm not active in the AMP community. I can't image it would
take that long to move over to Asterisk 1.4, as the dialplan changes
aren't *that* extensive between 1.2 and 1.4. (Obviously any code that
ties into the internal C APIs of Asterisk will take longer to port.)


Bet you guys didn't think about that one!


Actually, we did.  As a matter of fact, I was *very* vocal at the
conference in stating that we needed to give users, integrators, and
projects like AMP a substantial warning before putting Asterisk 1.2 in
security maintenance mode, as they need time to react.

At the same time, I don't think anyone should expect the Asterisk
developers to base all their decisions completely on the timetables of
outside projects (like AMP).  There is a plethora of projects and
programs out there that tie into Asterisk, and if we as developers
waited for every single one to move over to Asterisk 1.4, we'd never
accomplish anything.  There's simply a finite set of resources
(developers and bug marshalls in this case), and a decision had to be
made on how best to use those resources.  Personally, I think it would
be great if there were more communication between the outside projects
and the Asterisk developers, so that there isn't so much animosity
when decisions like this are made.

In short, the decision is probably going to cause some short-term
discomfort for some people, but I truly believe it's a good decision
for the long-term health and sanity of the Asterisk developers and
Asterisk community in general.  No, we're not trying to kill off AMP
or any other outside project -- we're trying to make Asterisk (and by
extension, anything that uses or adds on to Asterisk) as great as
possible.

-Jared
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RE: [asterisk-users] *End Of Life ASTERISK 1.2.X THEN AMP IS DEAD TOO!

2007-05-30 Thread shadowym
If anything this should motivate the FreePBX developers a bit more. 

-Original Message-
From: Jared Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 12:47 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] *End Of Life ASTERISK 1.2.X THEN AMP IS DEAD
TOO!

On 5/30/07, BSumrall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 AMP does not support 1.4 and will not until AMP 2.3 is released!

I'm sorry to hear you think our decision (I say our, as I was at the
Asterisk Developers' Conference where the decision was made) will kill the
AMP project.  Personally, I don't think the situation is as dire as you say.
I'm quite sure the AMP developers will step up to the plate and support
Asterisk 1.4 in due time.  When that will be I can't say, as I'm not active
in the AMP community. I can't image it would take that long to move over to
Asterisk 1.4, as the dialplan changes aren't *that* extensive between 1.2
and 1.4. (Obviously any code that ties into the internal C APIs of Asterisk
will take longer to port.)

 Bet you guys didn't think about that one!

Actually, we did.  As a matter of fact, I was *very* vocal at the conference
in stating that we needed to give users, integrators, and projects like AMP
a substantial warning before putting Asterisk 1.2 in security maintenance
mode, as they need time to react.

At the same time, I don't think anyone should expect the Asterisk developers
to base all their decisions completely on the timetables of outside projects
(like AMP).  There is a plethora of projects and programs out there that tie
into Asterisk, and if we as developers waited for every single one to move
over to Asterisk 1.4, we'd never accomplish anything.  There's simply a
finite set of resources (developers and bug marshalls in this case), and a
decision had to be made on how best to use those resources.  Personally, I
think it would be great if there were more communication between the outside
projects and the Asterisk developers, so that there isn't so much animosity
when decisions like this are made.

In short, the decision is probably going to cause some short-term discomfort
for some people, but I truly believe it's a good decision for the long-term
health and sanity of the Asterisk developers and Asterisk community in
general.  No, we're not trying to kill off AMP or any other outside project
-- we're trying to make Asterisk (and by extension, anything that uses or
adds on to Asterisk) as great as possible.

-Jared


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