Re: [asterisk-users] Anyone know of a pass through ATA

2008-03-15 Thread Andreas van dem Helge
SPA1001 is 1FXS only. SPA3102 is 1FXS + 1FXO... if you don't need FXO
why not get the SPA2102? It should be cheaper and you have the extra
port for future use.

On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 12:08 AM, Thermal Wetland
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 That is good to know.

 I will be using the the device to connect a bunch of analog phones back to a
 centralized server.

 Since each office has only one ethernet connection do I want to:
 1. Install a small switch to let a SPA1001  PC use the one drop
  2. Install a SPA3102 to let the PC share the one drop

 Even with an extra patch cord and probably the occasional power strip number
 one will be cheaper, but #2 seems like a better way to go.

 -Thermal



  On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 6:41 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  its not a bad device - I have 2 problems with it.  It doesn't do echo
 cancellation very well  is particularly badly matched to the PSTN here in
 Oz. Hint: keep it well cooled - echo goes up badly when its hot it runs
 very hot if there is no ventilation.   I use the 3102 to bridge a mythtv box
 instead of putting in an extra switch - works except for the occaisional
 failure to get a dhcp address.  I use a linux gateway for dhcp, most devices
 (3102+mythtv box, lynksys PAP2, bt100 ip phones, wireless and hosts) are all
 dhcp
 
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  From:  Thermal Wetland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subj:  Re: [asterisk-users] Anyone know of a pass through ATA
  Date:  Sat 15 Mar 2008 10:23
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  That is awesome. I dont know why the manual doesnt mention that.
 
  I want to have the device use a static IP  the computer use DCHP from a
 central DHCP server...sounds like it wont be a problem.
 
 
  Thanks.
 
  On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 8:14 PM, W.Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   sipura 3102 set to bridge. Works but I find that when rebooting a PC
   bridged it sometimes (randomly) doesnt get a dhcp lease, necessitating a
   powercycle of the 3102. I think the PC drops the ethernet as it reb
   oots and the sipura doesnt recognise it coming back.
 
   BillK
 
 
 
   On Thu, 2008-03-13 at 19:59 -1000, Thermal Wetland wrote:
Anyone know of a company that makes a pass through ATA?
   
By pass through I mean have an Ethernet switch built into the ATA,
like most desktop phones have.
   
All of the dual ethernet ATAs I have seen have WAN/LAN ports, not two
LAN ports.
   
I fooled around with DMZ etc...but it just doesnt work as well.
 
 
 
   
Thermal
 
 
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[asterisk-users] Anyone know of a pass through ATA

2008-03-14 Thread Thermal Wetland
Anyone know of a company that makes a pass through ATA?

By pass through I mean have an Ethernet switch built into the ATA, like most
desktop phones have.

All of the dual ethernet ATA's I have seen have WAN/LAN ports, not two LAN
ports.

I fooled around with DMZ etc...but it just doesn't work as well.

Thermal
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Re: [asterisk-users] Anyone know of a pass through ATA

2008-03-14 Thread W.Kenworthy
sipura 3102 set to bridge.  Works but I find that when rebooting a PC
bridged it sometimes (randomly) doesnt get a dhcp lease, necessitating a
powercycle of the 3102.  I think the PC drops the ethernet as it reb
oots and the sipura doesnt recognise it coming back.

BillK


On Thu, 2008-03-13 at 19:59 -1000, Thermal Wetland wrote:
 Anyone know of a company that makes a pass through ATA?
 
 By pass through I mean have an Ethernet switch built into the ATA,
 like most desktop phones have.
 
 All of the dual ethernet ATA's I have seen have WAN/LAN ports, not two
 LAN ports.
 
 I fooled around with DMZ etc...but it just doesn't work as well.
 
 Thermal
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Re: [asterisk-users] Anyone know of a pass through ATA

2008-03-14 Thread Andreas van dem Helge
Linksys SPA2102 does. It even has the option to auto-detect so if it
is assigned an RFC1819 address it will act as a switch and otherwise
just as a NAT router.

So does Grandstream HT496 (and I'm sure others) but it must be
manually configured.

On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 1:59 AM, Thermal Wetland
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Anyone know of a company that makes a pass through ATA?

 By pass through I mean have an Ethernet switch built into the ATA, like most
 desktop phones have.

 All of the dual ethernet ATA's I have seen have WAN/LAN ports, not two LAN
 ports.

 I fooled around with DMZ etc...but it just doesn't work as well.

 Thermal

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Re: [asterisk-users] Anyone know of a pass through ATA

2008-03-14 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 02:32:54AM -0400, Andreas van dem Helge wrote:
 Linksys SPA2102 does. It even has the option to auto-detect so if it
 is assigned an RFC1819 address it will act as a switch and otherwise
 just as a NAT router.

Clearly, someone neglected to tell them about ISPs like Rose.NET in
Thomasville, GA, who assign -1918 addresses to their customers over DSL
and cablemodems.

Cheers,
-- jra
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Re: [asterisk-users] Anyone know of a pass through ATA

2008-03-14 Thread Andreas van dem Helge
I know about them... KCL.net in Miami does (did?) the same assigning
10.x address for basic home connections...

What's your point? It's configurable on the 2102 as
switch/nat/autodetect, ht496 as nat/switch. If you have such ISP and
want to use the device as a router just manually set the NAT option.

On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 11:47 AM, Jay R. Ashworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 02:32:54AM -0400, Andreas van dem Helge wrote:
   Linksys SPA2102 does. It even has the option to auto-detect so if it
   is assigned an RFC1819 address it will act as a switch and otherwise
   just as a NAT router.

  Clearly, someone neglected to tell them about ISPs like Rose.NET in
  Thomasville, GA, who assign -1918 addresses to their customers over DSL
  and cablemodems.

  Cheers,
  -- jra
  --
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 PROTECTED]
  Designer The Things I Think   RFC 
 2100
  Ashworth  Associates http://baylink.pitas.com '87 
 e24
  St Petersburg FL USA  http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 
 1274

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Re: [asterisk-users] Anyone know of a pass through ATA

2008-03-14 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 12:10:21PM -0400, Andreas van dem Helge wrote:
 What's your point? It's configurable on the 2102 as
 switch/nat/autodetect, ht496 as nat/switch. If you have such ISP and
 want to use the device as a router just manually set the NAT option.

My point -- I thought it was fairly clear -- was that I hoped they had,
indeed, put in a knob to override the auto detection; some
manufacturers aren't that smart.

Cheers,
-- jra
-- 
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Designer The Things I Think   RFC 2100
Ashworth  Associates http://baylink.pitas.com '87 e24
St Petersburg FL USA  http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274

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Re: [asterisk-users] Anyone know of a pass through ATA

2008-03-14 Thread Thermal Wetland
That is awesome.  I don't know why the manual doesn't mention that.

I want to have the device use a static IP  the computer use DCHP from a
central DHCP server...sounds like it won't be a problem.

Thanks.

On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 8:14 PM, W.Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 sipura 3102 set to bridge.  Works but I find that when rebooting a PC
 bridged it sometimes (randomly) doesnt get a dhcp lease, necessitating a
 powercycle of the 3102.  I think the PC drops the ethernet as it reb
 oots and the sipura doesnt recognise it coming back.

 BillK


 On Thu, 2008-03-13 at 19:59 -1000, Thermal Wetland wrote:
  Anyone know of a company that makes a pass through ATA?
 
  By pass through I mean have an Ethernet switch built into the ATA,
  like most desktop phones have.
 
  All of the dual ethernet ATA's I have seen have WAN/LAN ports, not two
  LAN ports.
 
  I fooled around with DMZ etc...but it just doesn't work as well.
 
  Thermal
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Re: [asterisk-users] Anyone know of a pass through ATA

2008-03-14 Thread billk
its not a bad device - I have 2 problems with it.  It doesn't do echo 
cancellation very well  is particularly badly matched to the PSTN here in Oz. 
Hint: keep it well cooled - echo goes up badly when its hot it runs very hot 
if there is no ventilation.   I use the 3102 to bridge a mythtv box instead of 
putting in an extra switch - works except for the occaisional failure to get a 
dhcp address.  I use a linux gateway for dhcp, most devices (3102+mythtv box, 
lynksys PAP2, bt100 ip phones, wireless and hosts) are all dhcp

-Original Message-

From:  Thermal Wetland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subj:  Re: [asterisk-users] Anyone know of a pass through ATA
Date:  Sat 15 Mar 2008 10:23
Size:  2K
To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED], Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial 
Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com

That is awesome. I dont know why the manual doesnt mention that. 

I want to have the device use a static IP  the computer use DCHP from a 
central DHCP server...sounds like it wont be a problem.
 
Thanks.

On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 8:14 PM, W.Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 sipura 3102 set to bridge. Works but I find that when rebooting a PC
 bridged it sometimes (randomly) doesnt get a dhcp lease, necessitating a
 powercycle of the 3102. I think the PC drops the ethernet as it reb
 oots and the sipura doesnt recognise it coming back.
 
 BillK
 

 
 On Thu, 2008-03-13 at 19:59 -1000, Thermal Wetland wrote:
  Anyone know of a company that makes a pass through ATA?
 
  By pass through I mean have an Ethernet switch built into the ATA,
  like most desktop phones have.
 
  All of the dual ethernet ATAs I have seen have WAN/LAN ports, not two
  LAN ports.
 
  I fooled around with DMZ etc...but it just doesnt work as well.
 
  Thermal
 

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Re: [asterisk-users] Anyone know of a pass through ATA

2008-03-14 Thread Thermal Wetland
That is good to know.

I will be using the the device to connect a bunch of analog phones back to a
centralized server.

Since each office has only one ethernet connection do I want to:
1. Install a small switch to let a SPA1001  PC use the one drop
2. Install a SPA3102 to let the PC share the one drop

Even with an extra patch cord and probably the occasional power strip number
one will be cheaper, but #2 seems like a better way to go.

-Thermal

On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 6:41 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 its not a bad device - I have 2 problems with it.  It doesn't do echo
 cancellation very well  is particularly badly matched to the PSTN here in
 Oz. Hint: keep it well cooled - echo goes up badly when its hot it runs
 very hot if there is no ventilation.   I use the 3102 to bridge a mythtv box
 instead of putting in an extra switch - works except for the occaisional
 failure to get a dhcp address.  I use a linux gateway for dhcp, most devices
 (3102+mythtv box, lynksys PAP2, bt100 ip phones, wireless and hosts) are all
 dhcp

 -Original Message-

 From:  Thermal Wetland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subj:  Re: [asterisk-users] Anyone know of a pass through ATA
 Date:  Sat 15 Mar 2008 10:23
 Size:  2K
 To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED], Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial
 Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com

 That is awesome. I dont know why the manual doesnt mention that.

 I want to have the device use a static IP  the computer use DCHP from a
 central DHCP server...sounds like it wont be a problem.

 Thanks.

 On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 8:14 PM, W.Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  sipura 3102 set to bridge. Works but I find that when rebooting a PC
  bridged it sometimes (randomly) doesnt get a dhcp lease, necessitating a
  powercycle of the 3102. I think the PC drops the ethernet as it reb
  oots and the sipura doesnt recognise it coming back.

  BillK



  On Thu, 2008-03-13 at 19:59 -1000, Thermal Wetland wrote:
   Anyone know of a company that makes a pass through ATA?
  
   By pass through I mean have an Ethernet switch built into the ATA,
   like most desktop phones have.
  
   All of the dual ethernet ATAs I have seen have WAN/LAN ports, not two
   LAN ports.
  
   I fooled around with DMZ etc...but it just doesnt work as well.
  
   Thermal


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