Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk under VMWare

2007-10-25 Thread George Pajari
Chris Bagnall wrote:
 Our testing has yielded pretty good results. We had 10 simultaneous
 calls with ulaw and quality was very good. We are pure VOIP also.
 
 How many VMs were you running at the time, and what load were they under?

 We've setups running between 3 and 5 VMs on a single box (multi-core, lots of 
 RAM, etc.) and we haven't had any problems with them. Would be interesting to 
 know how well it'll scale with more VMs on each box
   

Also, the number of successful Asterisk VMs will depend on the 
virtualisation technology used. The literature strongly suggests that 
Xen will work better than VMware, OpenVZ better than Xen, and Virtuozzo 
better than OpenVZ. YMMV.

We offer (as a business) Virtual Private Asterisk Servers (see 
www.vpas.ca) and have no problem running many more than 3 to 5 virtual 
Asterisk instances on a single server in commercially demanding 
environments.

-- 
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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk under VMWare

2007-10-24 Thread Benny Amorsen
 P == Patrick  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

P There is a Xen page called something like cool configurations. It
P has information how you can configure access to a PCI card. Iirc it
P is even possible to assign one PCI slot/card to one virtual client
P and another PCI slot to another virtual client. Thanks to CentOS'
P Andreas Rogge for finding that info for me at the T-DOSE
P conference.

Just be careful, this is not a security solution. If you get root in a
virtual server which has been assigned a PCI card, it is highly likely
that you can use that PCI card to DMA to the host, gaining you root
access in the host or any other virtual server.

This problem can only be solved in hardware. Both Intel and AMD are
working on it, some non-x86 vendors have had it for a while.


/Benny






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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk under VMWare

2007-10-24 Thread Chris Bagnall
 Our testing has yielded pretty good results. We had 10 simultaneous
 calls with ulaw and quality was very good. We are pure VOIP also.

How many VMs were you running at the time, and what load were they under?

We've setups running between 3 and 5 VMs on a single box (multi-core, lots of 
RAM, etc.) and we haven't had any problems with them. Would be interesting to 
know how well it'll scale with more VMs on each box.

Regards,

Chris
-- 
C.M. Bagnall, Director, Minotaur I.T. Limited
For full contact details visit http://www.minotaur.it
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[asterisk-users] Asterisk under VMWare

2007-10-23 Thread WipeOut
Anyone had any experience with an Asterisk server as a VMWare virtual 
machine?


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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk under VMWare

2007-10-23 Thread Michiel van Baak
On 18:51, Tue 23 Oct 07, WipeOut wrote:
 Anyone had any experience with an Asterisk server as a VMWare virtual 
 machine?

We are running multiple sites as a VMWare virtual machine.
All of them are voip only, so I have no idea how it works
with T1/E1/POTS interface cards, but as a pure voip setup it
works great.
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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk under VMWare

2007-10-23 Thread Mojo with Horan Company, LLC
Michiel van Baak wrote:
 On 18:51, Tue 23 Oct 07, WipeOut wrote:
   
 Anyone had any experience with an Asterisk server as a VMWare virtual 
 machine?
 

 We are running multiple sites as a VMWare virtual machine.
 All of them are voip only, so I have no idea how it works
 with T1/E1/POTS interface cards, but as a pure voip setup it
 works great.
   
I've understood that VMWare virtual machines cannot access physical 
hardware in the host machine directly, only the emulated hardware VMWare 
provides.  As such, no T1/E1/POTS interfaces that connect via PCI. 

I'm not sure about the suitability of this route, but I would assume 
that any T1/E1/POTS USB devices out there would work, if they exist, 
because VMWare *does* allow the host's USB devices to connect to the 
guest..  Wasn't there talk on the list lately about a USB DS3 adapter?   

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk under VMWare

2007-10-23 Thread Mike Clark
Michiel van Baak wrote:
 On 18:51, Tue 23 Oct 07, WipeOut wrote:
   
 Anyone had any experience with an Asterisk server as a VMWare virtual 
 machine?
 

 We are running multiple sites as a VMWare virtual machine.
 All of them are voip only, so I have no idea how it works
 with T1/E1/POTS interface cards, but as a pure voip setup it
 works great.
   
Our testing has yielded pretty good results. We had 10 simultaneous 
calls with ulaw and quality was very good. We are pure VOIP also.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk under VMWare

2007-10-23 Thread Turbo Fredriksson
Quoting WipeOut [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Anyone had any experience with an Asterisk server as a VMWare virtual 
 machine?

I was trying to run it under XEN and got into trouble so in all my 
searches, the conclusion was that running it under VMWare didn't
work because of the faulty timer in VMWare...

My problem with XEN was due to the fact that I needed access to a
PRI card which I never managed to do (didn't try hard enough?).

But my Asterisk at home works just perfect under XEN. I don't need
hardware access there...


XEN solves the timing issue different from VMWare so...

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk under VMWare

2007-10-23 Thread WipeOut
Mike Clark wrote:
 Michiel van Baak wrote:
 On 18:51, Tue 23 Oct 07, WipeOut wrote:
   
 Anyone had any experience with an Asterisk server as a VMWare virtual 
 machine?
 
 We are running multiple sites as a VMWare virtual machine.
 All of them are voip only, so I have no idea how it works
 with T1/E1/POTS interface cards, but as a pure voip setup it
 works great.
   
 Our testing has yielded pretty good results. We had 10 simultaneous 
 calls with ulaw and quality was very good. We are pure VOIP also.
 

Excellent.. Thats very positive..

Now to find a UK based IAX trunk outbound call provider.. :)


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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk under VMWare

2007-10-23 Thread Patrick
On Tue, 2007-10-23 at 20:58 +0200, Turbo Fredriksson wrote:
[snip]
 My problem with XEN was due to the fact that I needed access to a
 PRI card which I never managed to do (didn't try hard enough?).

There is a Xen page called something like cool configurations. It has
information how you can configure access to a PCI card. Iirc it is even
possible to assign one PCI slot/card to one virtual client and another
PCI slot to another virtual client. Thanks to CentOS' Andreas Rogge for
finding that info for me at the T-DOSE conference.

Regards,
Patrick


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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk under VMWare

2007-10-23 Thread Bryan M. Johns
As a pure SIP solution, we have switched as many as 120 call paths through a VM 
on a lightly populated host. 

Bryan M. Johns 
Partner 
Shelton | Johns 
Office: 678.248.2637 
FindMe: 678.229.1809 
http://www.sheltonjohns.com 

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk under VMWare; Great Topic

2007-10-23 Thread JR Richardson
 Anyone had any experience with an Asterisk server as a VMWare virtual
 machine?

We use Asterisk in virtual machines for testing only, nothing in
productions.  We have been discussing production virtual Asterisk
servers but have not tested yet.  I would like to hear from anyone
running multiple Asterisk Virtual Machines on one or more servers in
production environment.

Researching found that Asterisk will not work well in a virtual
cluster OS implementation (multiple cluster nodes [think beowulf]) due
to SIP stack issues, multi threading across multiple RAM resources.
Can anyone shed some more light on why this is and is anyone trying to
improve this?

Thanks.

JR
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