Re: [asterisk-users] E1 Line Tapping

2007-09-10 Thread Ricardo Gemignani
Thanks for answering guys!

  Ok, let me see if i understood.

  If I use the line tapping strategy I wont be able to use asterisk to do
the recordings. Correct?

  So, i need to use the asterisk as the Man in the Middle ( I think that's
the same as the back to back suggestion from Tzafrir, Isn't it? ). Ok, so
every call will pass through Asterisk and I can do anything i want with it.
Thats cool, but since all the calls pass through my recording box I've just
created another fail point. And if someday my recording box stop responding?
Is there someway to minimize that?

TIA,
Ricardo

On 9/5/07, Andrew Latham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 or a man in the middle...

 http://www.tuxtone.com/index.php/VoIP:T1_man_in_the_middle



 On 9/5/07, Steve Totaro  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Ricardo Gemignani wrote:
   Hi all,
  
 My name is Ricardo and unfortunately I'm just crawling in this
   telecomm/asterisk world. So, after reading all day long i still don't
   understand a few things. :D
  
 I'm trying to develop a call recorder for a costumer. He has a
   small call center ( 10 agents ) and want to record all calls. Since he

   already has everything (ACD only) working perfectly in the PBX and
   don't want me to touch it, I need do develop a  less intrusive as
   possible system.
  
 I was thinking to do a line tapping in his E1 branch before it
   reaches the PBX and record it using Asterisk, then develop a small web
   interface to recover the recordings.
  
 In my research about E1 line tapping I found this product from
   Sangoma ( http://www.sangoma.com/datasheets/tapping ) but could not
   understand exactly how it really works.
  
 Does anybody already used it?
  
 Is it possible to use it with Asterisk?
  
   tia,
   Ricardo Gemignani
  
 
  Check out OrecX but you should be able to record that volume of calls
  natively on the box (that is assuming you are using Asterisk as your
  call center system.
 
  Thanks,
  Steve
 
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Re: [asterisk-users] E1 Line Tapping

2007-09-10 Thread Steve Totaro
You could buy two identical servers and use the device (name escapes me) 
that will detect one server going down and flip the ISDN traffic to the 
spare.

Or you could just buy a really good server with redundant power 
supplies, raid 5, and hope for the best.

Thanks,
Steve

Ricardo Gemignani wrote:
 Thanks for answering guys!
 
   Ok, let me see if i understood.
 
   If I use the line tapping strategy I wont be able to use asterisk to 
 do the recordings. Correct?
 
   So, i need to use the asterisk as the Man in the Middle ( I think 
 that's the same as the back to back suggestion from Tzafrir, Isn't it? 
 ). Ok, so every call will pass through Asterisk and I can do anything i 
 want with it. Thats cool, but since all the calls pass through my 
 recording box I've just created another fail point. And if someday my 
 recording box stop responding? Is there someway to minimize that?
 
 TIA,
 Ricardo
 
 On 9/5/07, *Andrew Latham*  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 or a man in the middle...
 
 http://www.tuxtone.com/index.php/VoIP:T1_man_in_the_middle
 http://www.tuxtone.com/index.php/VoIP:T1_man_in_the_middle
 
 
 
 On 9/5/07, Steve Totaro  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Ricardo Gemignani wrote:
Hi all,
   
  My name is Ricardo and unfortunately I'm just crawling in this
telecomm/asterisk world. So, after reading all day long i still
 don't
understand a few things. :D
   
  I'm trying to develop a call recorder for a costumer. He has a
small call center ( 10 agents ) and want to record all calls.
 Since he
already has everything (ACD only) working perfectly in the PBX and
don't want me to touch it, I need do develop a  less intrusive as
possible system.
   
  I was thinking to do a line tapping in his E1 branch before it
reaches the PBX and record it using Asterisk, then develop a
 small web
interface to recover the recordings.
   
  In my research about E1 line tapping I found this product from
Sangoma ( http://www.sangoma.com/datasheets/tapping ) but could not
understand exactly how it really works.
   
  Does anybody already used it?
   
  Is it possible to use it with Asterisk?
   
tia,
Ricardo Gemignani
   
  
   Check out OrecX but you should be able to record that volume of
 calls
   natively on the box (that is assuming you are using Asterisk as your
   call center system.
  
   Thanks,
   Steve
  
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Re: [asterisk-users] E1 Line Tapping

2007-09-10 Thread Ricardo Gemignani
Thanks Steve,

  If somebody knows about this hardware, or already used it. Please give me
some help.

TIA,
Ricardo

On 9/10/07, Steve Totaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You could buy two identical servers and use the device (name escapes me)
 that will detect one server going down and flip the ISDN traffic to the
 spare.

 Or you could just buy a really good server with redundant power
 supplies, raid 5, and hope for the best.

 Thanks,
 Steve

 Ricardo Gemignani wrote:
  Thanks for answering guys!
 
Ok, let me see if i understood.
 
If I use the line tapping strategy I wont be able to use asterisk to
  do the recordings. Correct?
 
So, i need to use the asterisk as the Man in the Middle ( I think
  that's the same as the back to back suggestion from Tzafrir, Isn't it?
  ). Ok, so every call will pass through Asterisk and I can do anything i
  want with it. Thats cool, but since all the calls pass through my
  recording box I've just created another fail point. And if someday my
  recording box stop responding? Is there someway to minimize that?
 
  TIA,
  Ricardo
 
  On 9/5/07, *Andrew Latham*  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  or a man in the middle...
 
  http://www.tuxtone.com/index.php/VoIP:T1_man_in_the_middle
  http://www.tuxtone.com/index.php/VoIP:T1_man_in_the_middle
 
 
 
  On 9/5/07, Steve Totaro  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ricardo Gemignani wrote:
 Hi all,

   My name is Ricardo and unfortunately I'm just crawling in
 this
 telecomm/asterisk world. So, after reading all day long i still
  don't
 understand a few things. :D

   I'm trying to develop a call recorder for a costumer. He
 has a
 small call center ( 10 agents ) and want to record all calls.
  Since he
 already has everything (ACD only) working perfectly in the PBX
 and
 don't want me to touch it, I need do develop a  less
 intrusive as
 possible system.

   I was thinking to do a line tapping in his E1 branch before
 it
 reaches the PBX and record it using Asterisk, then develop a
  small web
 interface to recover the recordings.

   In my research about E1 line tapping I found this product
 from
 Sangoma ( http://www.sangoma.com/datasheets/tapping ) but could
 not
 understand exactly how it really works.

   Does anybody already used it?

   Is it possible to use it with Asterisk?

 tia,
 Ricardo Gemignani

   
Check out OrecX but you should be able to record that volume of
  calls
natively on the box (that is assuming you are using Asterisk as
 your
call center system.
   
Thanks,
Steve
   
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Re: [asterisk-users] E1 Line Tapping

2007-09-10 Thread Steve Totaro
http://www.voipsupply.com/manufacturers/RedFone_Communications.html?gclid=CKmd5OrbuY4CFVB1OAodfC7PxQ


Ricardo Gemignani wrote:
 Thanks Steve,
 
   If somebody knows about this hardware, or already used it. Please give 
 me some help.
 
 TIA,
 Ricardo
 
 On 9/10/07, *Steve Totaro* [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 You could buy two identical servers and use the device (name escapes me)
 that will detect one server going down and flip the ISDN traffic to the
 spare.
 
 Or you could just buy a really good server with redundant power
 supplies, raid 5, and hope for the best.
 
 Thanks,
 Steve
 
 Ricardo Gemignani wrote:
   Thanks for answering guys!
  
 Ok, let me see if i understood.
  
 If I use the line tapping strategy I wont be able to use
 asterisk to
   do the recordings. Correct?
  
 So, i need to use the asterisk as the Man in the Middle ( I think
   that's the same as the back to back suggestion from Tzafrir,
 Isn't it?
   ). Ok, so every call will pass through Asterisk and I can do
 anything i
   want with it. Thats cool, but since all the calls pass through my
   recording box I've just created another fail point. And if
 someday my
   recording box stop responding? Is there someway to minimize that?
  
   TIA,
   Ricardo
  
   On 9/5/07, *Andrew Latham*  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   or a man in the middle...
  
   http://www.tuxtone.com/index.php/VoIP:T1_man_in_the_middle
   http://www.tuxtone.com/index.php/VoIP:T1_man_in_the_middle
  
  
  
   On 9/5/07, Steve Totaro  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ricardo Gemignani wrote:
  Hi all,
 
My name is Ricardo and unfortunately I'm just crawling
 in this
  telecomm/asterisk world. So, after reading all day long
 i still
   don't
  understand a few things. :D
 
I'm trying to develop a call recorder for a
 costumer. He has a
  small call center ( 10 agents ) and want to record all
 calls.
   Since he
  already has everything (ACD only) working perfectly in
 the PBX and
  don't want me to touch it, I need do develop a  less
 intrusive as
  possible system.
 
I was thinking to do a line tapping in his E1 branch
 before it
  reaches the PBX and record it using Asterisk, then develop a
   small web
  interface to recover the recordings.
 
In my research about E1 line tapping I found this
 product from
  Sangoma ( http://www.sangoma.com/datasheets/tapping )
 but could not
  understand exactly how it really works.
 
Does anybody already used it?
 
Is it possible to use it with Asterisk?
 
  tia,
  Ricardo Gemignani
 

 Check out OrecX but you should be able to record that
 volume of
   calls
 natively on the box (that is assuming you are using
 Asterisk as your
 call center system.

 Thanks,
 Steve

 

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Re: [asterisk-users] E1 Line Tapping

2007-09-10 Thread Andrew Latham
I think they mean the Rhino Dax...  http://rhinoequipment.com/minidax.html

On 9/10/07, Steve Totaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://www.voipsupply.com/manufacturers/RedFone_Communications.html?gclid=CKmd5OrbuY4CFVB1OAodfC7PxQ


 Ricardo Gemignani wrote:
  Thanks Steve,
 
If somebody knows about this hardware, or already used it. Please give
  me some help.
 
  TIA,
  Ricardo
 
  On 9/10/07, *Steve Totaro* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  You could buy two identical servers and use the device (name escapes me)
  that will detect one server going down and flip the ISDN traffic to the
  spare.
 
  Or you could just buy a really good server with redundant power
  supplies, raid 5, and hope for the best.
 
  Thanks,
  Steve
 
  Ricardo Gemignani wrote:
Thanks for answering guys!
   
  Ok, let me see if i understood.
   
  If I use the line tapping strategy I wont be able to use
  asterisk to
do the recordings. Correct?
   
  So, i need to use the asterisk as the Man in the Middle ( I think
that's the same as the back to back suggestion from Tzafrir,
  Isn't it?
). Ok, so every call will pass through Asterisk and I can do
  anything i
want with it. Thats cool, but since all the calls pass through my
recording box I've just created another fail point. And if
  someday my
recording box stop responding? Is there someway to minimize that?
   
TIA,
Ricardo
   
On 9/5/07, *Andrew Latham*  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
or a man in the middle...
   
http://www.tuxtone.com/index.php/VoIP:T1_man_in_the_middle
http://www.tuxtone.com/index.php/VoIP:T1_man_in_the_middle
   
   
   
On 9/5/07, Steve Totaro  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Ricardo Gemignani wrote:
   Hi all,
  
 My name is Ricardo and unfortunately I'm just crawling
  in this
   telecomm/asterisk world. So, after reading all day long
  i still
don't
   understand a few things. :D
  
 I'm trying to develop a call recorder for a
  costumer. He has a
   small call center ( 10 agents ) and want to record all
  calls.
Since he
   already has everything (ACD only) working perfectly in
  the PBX and
   don't want me to touch it, I need do develop a  less
  intrusive as
   possible system.
  
 I was thinking to do a line tapping in his E1 branch
  before it
   reaches the PBX and record it using Asterisk, then develop a
small web
   interface to recover the recordings.
  
 In my research about E1 line tapping I found this
  product from
   Sangoma ( http://www.sangoma.com/datasheets/tapping )
  but could not
   understand exactly how it really works.
  
 Does anybody already used it?
  
 Is it possible to use it with Asterisk?
  
   tia,
   Ricardo Gemignani
  
 
  Check out OrecX but you should be able to record that
  volume of
calls
  natively on the box (that is assuming you are using
  Asterisk as your
  call center system.
 
  Thanks,
  Steve
 
 

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Re: [asterisk-users] E1 Line Tapping

2007-09-05 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Wed, Sep 05, 2007 at 01:36:02AM -0300, Ricardo Gemignani wrote:
 Hi all,
 
   My name is Ricardo and unfortunately I'm just crawling in this
 telecomm/asterisk world. So, after reading all day long i still don't
 understand a few things. :D
 
   I'm trying to develop a call recorder for a costumer. He has a small
 call center ( 10 agents ) and want to record all calls. Since he already has
 everything (ACD only) working perfectly in the PBX and don't want me to
 touch it, I need do develop a  less intrusive as possible system.
 
   I was thinking to do a line tapping in his E1 branch before it reaches the
 PBX and record it using Asterisk, then develop a small web interface to
 recover the recordings.
 
   In my research about E1 line tapping I found this product from Sangoma (
 http://www.sangoma.com/datasheets/tapping ) but could not understand exactly
 how it really works.
 
   Does anybody already used it?
 
   Is it possible to use it with Asterisk?

If you work at a lower layer (using such a product, or in similar ways)
you have no clear notion of calls. You'll have to analyze the dump
later on and actually make use of it.

If you work wityh asterisk (search for back to back settings) Asterisk
acts as a proxy: it knows about the calls and reconnects them. Thus
asterisk can provide you with CDR information, better control of what to
record. e.g: you might want to make sure that the system does not record
the extra calls it that are sometimes made to your home ;-)

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Re: [asterisk-users] E1 Line Tapping

2007-09-05 Thread Steve Totaro
Ricardo Gemignani wrote:
 Hi all,

   My name is Ricardo and unfortunately I'm just crawling in this 
 telecomm/asterisk world. So, after reading all day long i still don't 
 understand a few things. :D

   I'm trying to develop a call recorder for a costumer. He has a 
 small call center ( 10 agents ) and want to record all calls. Since he 
 already has everything (ACD only) working perfectly in the PBX and 
 don't want me to touch it, I need do develop a  less intrusive as 
 possible system.

   I was thinking to do a line tapping in his E1 branch before it 
 reaches the PBX and record it using Asterisk, then develop a small web 
 interface to recover the recordings.

   In my research about E1 line tapping I found this product from 
 Sangoma ( http://www.sangoma.com/datasheets/tapping ) but could not 
 understand exactly how it really works.

   Does anybody already used it?

   Is it possible to use it with Asterisk?

 tia,
 Ricardo Gemignani


Check out OrecX but you should be able to record that volume of calls 
natively on the box (that is assuming you are using Asterisk as your 
call center system. 

Thanks,
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Re: [asterisk-users] E1 Line Tapping

2007-09-05 Thread Andrew Latham
or a man in the middle...

http://www.tuxtone.com/index.php/VoIP:T1_man_in_the_middle



On 9/5/07, Steve Totaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ricardo Gemignani wrote:
  Hi all,
 
My name is Ricardo and unfortunately I'm just crawling in this
  telecomm/asterisk world. So, after reading all day long i still don't
  understand a few things. :D
 
I'm trying to develop a call recorder for a costumer. He has a
  small call center ( 10 agents ) and want to record all calls. Since he
  already has everything (ACD only) working perfectly in the PBX and
  don't want me to touch it, I need do develop a  less intrusive as
  possible system.
 
I was thinking to do a line tapping in his E1 branch before it
  reaches the PBX and record it using Asterisk, then develop a small web
  interface to recover the recordings.
 
In my research about E1 line tapping I found this product from
  Sangoma ( http://www.sangoma.com/datasheets/tapping ) but could not
  understand exactly how it really works.
 
Does anybody already used it?
 
Is it possible to use it with Asterisk?
 
  tia,
  Ricardo Gemignani
 

 Check out OrecX but you should be able to record that volume of calls
 natively on the box (that is assuming you are using Asterisk as your
 call center system.

 Thanks,
 Steve

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Re: [asterisk-users] E1 Line Tapping

2007-09-05 Thread Andrew Joakimsen
On 9/5/07, Ricardo Gemignani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all,

   My name is Ricardo and unfortunately I'm just crawling in this
 telecomm/asterisk world. So, after reading all day long i still don't
 understand a few things. :D

   I'm trying to develop a call recorder for a costumer. He has a small
 call center ( 10 agents ) and want to record all calls. Since he already has
 everything (ACD only) working perfectly in the PBX and don't want me to
 touch it, I need do develop a  less intrusive as possible system.

   I was thinking to do a line tapping in his E1 branch before it reaches the
 PBX and record it using Asterisk, then develop a small web interface to
 recover the recordings.

   In my research about E1 line tapping I found this product from Sangoma (
 http://www.sangoma.com/datasheets/tapping ) but could not
 understand exactly how it really works.

   Does anybody already used it?

   Is it possible to use it with Asterisk?

 tia,
 Ricardo Gemignani


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You need double the number of E1 ports in your Asterisk machine as
there are E1 ports in the PBX. So say the PBX has 3 E1 ports, you need
6 on your Asterisk machine.

Basically you are going to put Asterisk to interface with the PSTN on
half the ports, the otehr half will continue to be the same to the
PBX. You use cpe_net on PBX end of things in Asterisk,. so the PBX
does not need to be re-configured.

There is no need for tapping the Asterisk will just be in the middle
of the PBX and PSTN.

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[asterisk-users] E1 Line Tapping

2007-09-04 Thread Ricardo Gemignani
Hi all,

  My name is Ricardo and unfortunately I'm just crawling in this
telecomm/asterisk world. So, after reading all day long i still don't
understand a few things. :D

  I'm trying to develop a call recorder for a costumer. He has a small
call center ( 10 agents ) and want to record all calls. Since he already has
everything (ACD only) working perfectly in the PBX and don't want me to
touch it, I need do develop a  less intrusive as possible system.

  I was thinking to do a line tapping in his E1 branch before it reaches the
PBX and record it using Asterisk, then develop a small web interface to
recover the recordings.

  In my research about E1 line tapping I found this product from Sangoma (
http://www.sangoma.com/datasheets/tapping ) but could not understand exactly
how it really works.

  Does anybody already used it?

  Is it possible to use it with Asterisk?

tia,
Ricardo Gemignani
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